Jackson family tribute concert / October 8th, 2011 / Initial details @ post 87

[ivy]

Has anyone thought about the childrens' feeling about this? Maybe they want to travel to Wales and watch a tribute to their father. We don't know what is going on in their minds, maybe this will be very helpful to them during the trial. If you think the trial is going to be hard on us, it's going to be 100 times harder on Prince, Paris and Blanket. A lot of you are making it sound like Katherine is holding a gun to their heads and forcing them to come with her, but you don't know their personal feelings about this so stop judging.

There's no doubt in my mind that they want to be there. And why not? It's not what's bothering me. It's the fact that they appear on that site to bait fans. And the fact that they are obviously part of the deal KJ made with GL.

I agree with Ben. Assuming they don't know all the details and only being told "biggest tribute ever with international stars" is being done for their father , I'm sure that they would want to attend to honor and show love to their dad. There's nothing wrong there.

But they are listed in concert's ticket sale "terms and conditions" under "concert line-up".

so it makes me think that these people actually sat down and negotiated kids appearance , very similar to how the kids took part in Oprah and how they are bounded to the agreement with Mann.

 

[ilmjj]

There's no doubt in my mind that they want to be there. And why not? It's not what's bothering me. It's the fact that they appear on that site to bait fans. And the fact that they are obviously part of the deal KJ made with GL.

Exactly! I am concerned about these kids and the people making decisions on their behalf. I don't think that is being judgemental.

 

[LastTear]

Has anyone thought about the childrens' feeling about this? Maybe they want to travel to Wales and watch a tribute to their father. We don't know what is going on in their minds, maybe this will be very helpful to them during the trial. If you think the trial is going to be hard on us, it's going to be 100 times harder on Prince, Paris and Blanket. A lot of you are making it sound like Katherine is holding a gun to their heads and forcing them to come with her, but you don't know their personal feelings about this so stop judging.

Maybe they do, but why do we need to know about it now, why is their attendance being used as a selling point?

 

[JMie]

I am sure they want to go there. But I am also sure they were not told all the details.

 

[Diplomate]

So bankable these MJ kids....

 

[la_cienega]

I am disgusted.

Wow...

 

[twinklEE]

I have question that I find very interesting:

Where is Janet and why isn't she among the artists announced? Doesn't she want to pay tribute to her brother?

This alone should tell anyone who is still wondering about this tribute -- if even Janet is staying away from a concert organized by her OWN family, it should show you what a huge mess this is. Janet obviously knows her family personally and very well and she ain't touching this with a ten foot pole.

Janet is not involved because Randy is not involved it's that simple. Wherever Randy leads Janet follows.

I have done nothing wrong what so ever and that is all I will say on that subject. So people can call out all they want. When they speak on occurrences of which they do not know, it will be egg on their face.

Like I stated in my post you did NOTHING wrong. I think I made that clear along with stating that calling you out was wrong, didn't I?
My post was directed to Gaz's stating don't attack don't call out my staff ever (it at least appeared that way to me.) IMO if one of the staff members does screw up (NOT saying you did BIG DIFFERENCE), we as regular members should be allowed to bring it into attention without being threatened by Gaz or any other staff members, period.

 

[twinklEE]

These kids are being treated exactly the way their dad was treated - like a circus attraction. Everything Michael stood against for when it came to his children, Katherine is doing. Katherine, Katherine, Katherine... what are you doing? Remember your son Michael, the one who sacrificed his childhood, adoloscence, adulthood and even his late adult years to be an entertainer. He wanted his kids to have a childhood and ...

You know what? What's the point of me rambling here again and again of all the shi***y things that have been going on since Michael died. Debbie Rowe (if she really cared for those kids more then for the money) would have stepped in by now to have full custody of the kids (even adopt Blanket) and it would have easily been granted because she never gave up her parental rights. Diana Ross is another one who was named guardian, although she isn't blood related to the kids, I'm sure if she fought to raise Michael's kids she would have won. These kids are truly doomed. And I think they know it especially Paris who occationally use to post some pretty heavy stuff in her formspring and early twitter comments. I really feel for those kids. I hope they are not too scarred for life.

I wish these kids took the steps to be emancipated (Paris and Prince). There is enough proof of the damage going on in that Calabasas home. It may not be physical abuse like their dad endured but it sure is abuse. Selling your son's kids to the press, media and fans for money is another form of prostitution Katherine. Shame on you.

Spoken nothing but the truth

 

[gerryevans]

So it is possible to sell out a tribute concert without anouncing performers. The thing is that you have to have the fans believing in the tribute first. If we can feel the spirit of Michael a lot of us would love to go, I'm sure.

xrisx, your comparison of this concert to Freddie Mercury's was great. I extracted the part that I think is the problem in a nutshell for the difference in Freddie's tribute and this one. And that's the SPIRIT for this concert. The spirit for it did not come from a place of "We want to honor Michael", but rather, "We can make money by honoring Michael."

The "we" started with Global. They're a business. They're suppose to try to make money. They see all this green flowing in and of course want to get in on it as does Howard Mann, and endless others. A tribute concert is the perfect vehicle. MJ fans will be clamoring for the tickets and stars will just line up to participate. Just like they did for Freddie!

Next step. Get to the family. Promise them a tribute fit for a king and big dollars for themselves. And a deal is struck. The "we" now includes the family.

And this is where another dagger has been thrown in MJ fans' hearts. The tribute should be ALL about honoring Michael for the family. They should be coming completely from a place of love for him. If they were, they would have held off until after the trial.

The Freddie concert was a triumph because it was GENUINELY motivated by love for Freddie and wanting to help a charitable cause. That's not the case here....especially when you consider the Jackson children have been given $100,000 as if they too are some kind of charity and they're actually multi multi millionaires.

 

[prismsagainst5live]

pehaps it was 100,000 for the kids if at least 1 attends.

they better not make blanket go by himself, he really isnt into being paraded.
And of course people reported that they cried during 'scream' at janets concert in vegas, i hope this wont be too much for them.

 

[Memefan]

This clip should hit home...not because of the pedophilia talk...but because it explains how kids in Hollywood are used as commodity.

http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/61890584.html#cutid1

And I pray, Michael Jackson's kids according to his wishes, will never have to deal with it.

 

[LastTear]

xrisx, your comparison of this concert to Freddie Mercury's was great. I extracted the part that I think is the problem in a nutshell for the difference in Freddie's tribute and this one. And that's the SPIRIT for this concert. The spirit for it did not come from a place of "We want to honor Michael", but rather, "We can make money by honoring Michael."

The "we" started with Global. They're a business. They're suppose to try to make money. They see all this green flowing in and of course want to get in on it as does Howard Mann, and endless others. A tribute concert is the perfect vehicle. MJ fans will be clamoring for the tickets and stars will just line up to participate. Just like they did for Freddie!

Next step. Get to the family. Promise them a tribute fit for a king and big dollars for themselves. And a deal is struck. The "we" now includes the family.

And this is where another dagger has been thrown in MJ fans' hearts. The tribute should be ALL about honoring Michael for the family. They should be coming completely from a place of love for him. If they were, they would have held off until after the trial.

The Freddie concert was a triumph because it was GENUINELY motivated by love for Freddie and wanting to help a charitable cause. That's not the case here....especially when you consider the Jackson children have been given $100,000 as if they too are some kind of charity and they're actually multi multi millionaires.

Gerryevans is absolutely right here and this is what Michael deserves. I was never a huge fan of Queen, but I watched this tribute on TV and I still remember it to this day.

 

[Diplomate]

This clip should hit home...not because of the pedophilia talk...but because it explains how kids in Hollywood are used as commodity.

http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/61890584.html#cutid1

And I pray, Michael Jackson's kids according to his wishes, will never have to deal with it.

Scary.

I'm just a MJ fans, I shouldn't be so concern about his kids normaly, but really with the Jackson$ around them and the way they sell these kids to anybody who will give them money, it's just scary, scary, and their futur will not gonna be really good...

 

[xthunderx2]

Prince and Paris have school, it's easier to take Blanket there since he's home schooled. Poor thing if he's to go without his siblings. I can't believe how this family treats the children.

oh dont think for one single minute that ANY of those children would not be there....they will make sure all 3 of those children are lined up front and center...after all...like I said ..I truly believe that these kids are gonna sing some at this tribute...I could be wrong...we will have to wait and see. Now to be totatly honest if this tribute was at another time and properly organized..I would be all for those children singing for their rather,,,,nothing wrong with that in my opinion....but this fiasco that is gonna happen...well ..whatever.

 

[xthunderx2]

I agree with Ben. Assuming they don't know all the details and only being told "biggest tribute ever with international stars" is being done for their father , I'm sure that they would want to attend to honor and show love to their dad. There's nothing wrong there.

But they are listed in concert's ticket sale "terms and conditions" under "concert line-up".

so it makes me think that these people actually sat down and negotiated kids appearance , very similar to how the kids took part in Oprah and how they are bounded to the agreement with Mann.

wow that is really really despicable....really it is...but did we expect ANYTHING different from ANY of them...this has really really angered me...again...they use the kids...sickening and disgusting that what this is. I know alot of people here are not religious...but when stuff like this comes up..and there is nothing I can do about it,,,my thought is this...God sees ALL that they do...and in the end...they ALL have to face HIM!!! I better leave this thread for a little while before my blood pressure explodes...

 

[xrisx]

I'm glad others here understand the point I was trying to make by comparing it to that FM tribute and the spirit of that which was felt all over the world.
Michael deserves that in his tribute. A way for us fans to send all the love we have for MJ right to him.
(Although I'm sure we all already do that in our own little ways already.)
I think that's a big part of the problem for fans, it's not really about the artists so far lined up.

I don't think I want to respond to what was found for the involvement of the kids in this concert.
I'm trying my best to reserve judgement but they are making it really hard this way.
All I'll say is I wouldn't be surprised if we see the family do a family sing-along (like they did at the end of the "Jackson family Honors show") at the end of this tribute show. For some reason I could see them doing that.

 

[Mneme]

Smokey Robinson ist not on the list:

http://home.michaelforevertribute.com/artists.html

 

[Ramona122003]

oh dont think for one single minute that ANY of those children would not be there....they will make sure all 3 of those children are lined up front and center...after all...like I said ..I truly believe that these kids are gonna sing some at this tribute...I could be wrong...we will have to wait and see. Now to be totatly honest if this tribute was at another time and properly organized..I would be all for those children singing for their rather,,,,nothing wrong with that in my opinion....but this fiasco that is gonna happen...well ..whatever.

You keep saying the kids will sing, but how do you know that they even have a talent for it? The only people who said that they can sing is Joe and he isn't someone I would trust with finding hidden gems.

If the kids go on stage and show to the world they didn't inherit any of their father's talent, what do you think that will do to them? What do you think some of the 'fans' will think of them if they learn Michael's kids are not Michael 2.0?

 

[LastTear]

Nothing really new here apart from 3T taking top billing. But it's interesting to read the UK's main stream media take on all this.

Michael Jackson tribute concert lineup revealed

Christina Aguilera, Cee Lo Green and JLS among artists playing King of Pop tribute gig at Cardiff's Millennium Stadium

Sean Michaels
guardian.co.uk, <TIME datetime="2011-08-12T11:19BST" pubdate>Friday 12 August 2011 11.19 BST</TIME>

• Organisers have announced the initial lineup of October's Michael Jackson tribute gig in Cardiff, revealing that "the biggest and best concert in the world" will include performances by, er, Craig David, Alien Ant Farm and 90s pop act 3T. "This announcement is just the beginning," the promoters said. "This concert will [remind] … everyone of just how amazing a talent Michael was."

While 3T receive top billing on Michael Forever's alphabetised lineup page, Jackson's thirtysomething nephews are admittedly not the biggest acts on the bill. Christina Aguilera, Cee Lo Green and JLS have also agreed to appear at the Millennium Stadium, as has Leona Lewis, who had been rumoured to open the King of Pop's aborted O2 residency. Although Katherine Jackson reportedly issued personal invitations to Justin Bieber, Bruno Mars and Chris Brown, all have "respectfully declined", according to TMZ. Kanye West is apparently in the "maybe" pile.
Tickets are still not on sale for the gargantuan gig, which is intended to celebrate the 40th anniversary of Jackson's solo career. "The registration period was put on hold because we want people to know who they are registering to see," explained Chris Hunt, the chairman of Global Live Events. But lack of interest could also be attributed to the convoluted and expensive ticket scheme. Although seats begin at £55, for restricted view, they will only be allotted according to the size of each purchaser's charity "donation". "The higher you bid the better seats you get?" complained one fan on Facebook. "Not every Michael fan is rich!!!"
Furthermore, if Michael Forever is going to be a four-hour affair, as Hunt has promised, organisers are going to have to book artists who are more exciting than Alien Ant Farm, with their decade-old Smooth Criminal cover. Craig David's last two albums garnered just one hit, and 3T last charted in 1996. The lineup also features "the Jacksons", a vague catch-all term that may include LaToya, Janet or Tito, but certainly not Randy or Jermaine.
This is because several of Michael's relatives – along with the official Michael Jackson Fan Club, and even the singer's executors – aren't backing the show. They claim the concert will distract from the involuntary manslaughter trial of Dr Conrad Murray, Jackson's former doctor. "While we wholeheartedly support the spirit of a tribute that honours our brother, we find it impossible to support an event that is due to take place during the [trial]," Randy and Jermaine said. "Everyone's care and attention should be focused on the matter of justice."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/aug/12/michael-jackson-tribute-concert-lineup

 

[xthunderx2]

You keep saying the kids will sing, but how do you know that they even have a talent for it? The only people who said that they can sing is Joe and he isn't someone I would trust with finding hidden gems.

If the kids go on stage and show to the world they didn't inherit any of their father's talent, what do you think that will do to them? What do you think some of the 'fans' will think of them if they learn Michael's kids are not Michael 2.0?

to be totatly honest I dont know..it is a feeling that I have that is all....and to be honest..WHO CARES what Joe says...I never listen to Joe...lol,,,,but anyway,,,again I will say IMO...Who cares if they didnt inherit any of Michael's talent..they are NOT Michael...they are Prince..Paris and Blanket Jackson. Just because he is their father....doesn't mean they HAVE to have his talent. ...and if the WORLD is to rude and ignorant to see that..then that is the worlds problem..not..P P and Blankets,

 

[twinklEE]

to be totatly honest I dont know..it is a feeling that I have that is all....and to be honest..WHO CARES what Joe says...I never listen to Joe...lol,,,,but anyway,,,again I will say IMO...Who cares if they didnt inherit any of Michael's talent..they are NOT Michael...they are Prince..Paris and Blanket Jackson. Just because he is their father....doesn't mean they HAVE to have his talent. ...and if the WORLD is to rude and ignorant to see that..then that is the worlds problem..not..P P and Blankets,

Well I don't think they'll sing either, but they do get voice lessons.

 

[xthunderx2]

Well I don't think they'll sing either, but they do get voice lessons.

...

 

[Ramona122003]

to be totatly honest I dont know..it is a feeling that I have that is all....and to be honest..WHO CARES what Joe says...I never listen to Joe...lol,,,,but anyway,,,again I will say IMO...Who cares if they didnt inherit any of Michael's talent..they are NOT Michael...they are Prince..Paris and Blanket Jackson. Just because he is their father....doesn't mean they HAVE to have his talent. ...and if the WORLD is to rude and ignorant to see that..then that is the worlds problem..not..P P and Blankets,

The problem is, it will be their problem if they do try to sing and dance at the tribute. Can you imagine what the media and even some 'fans' will do if they go unto the stage and do horrible or even mediocre. They will, quite bluntly, be tore apart. Given the Jacksons record of encouraging people like Toya to have a singing career, they won't be honest to the children if they do have a lack of talent.

I am not bring this up as concern to fans, cause like you said, who give a damn if they have talent. However, to have kids on the world stage torn apart is not something anyone should want to happen. Especially on this age of the internet where something like that will be shown forever.

 

[Big Apple2]

Nothing really new here apart from 3T taking top billing. But it's interesting to read the UK's main stream media take on all this.

As I said yesterday, in my opinion, part of this "so-called" Tribute is nothing more than a PLOY so that the Jackson family members that NOBODY cares about are afforded an opportunity to garner some of the spotlight.

50% could end up being ONLY Jackson family members. Jackie's son can rap a few songs, and Rebbie's daughter can recite a poem. It will be just like the Jackson Variety Show from back in the day.

On a lighter note: has their website crashed yet? You know, because of high ticket demand.

 

[xthunderx2]

The problem is, it will be their problem if they do try to sing and dance at the tribute. Can you imagine what the media and even some 'fans' will do if they go unto the stage and do horrible or even mediocre. They will, quite bluntly, be tore apart. Given the Jacksons record of encouraging people like Toya to have a singing career, they won't be honest to the children if they do have a lack of talent.

I am not bring this up as concern to fans, cause like you said, who give a damn if they have talent. However, to have kids on the world stage torn apart is not something anyone should want to happen. Especially on this age of the internet where something like that will be shown forever.

I understand what you are saying. I for one done even want this whole event to happen..never mind of these children in the limelight all time. I was more or less saying that..they will probably have them up there just BECAUSE they are the children. since when have the Jacksons cared what is best for these kids..all these other schemes we have seen in the past two years...imo..this probably wont be any different.

ps..I gotta go to work..will be back later...have a great day..:hug:

 

[LastTear]

Quote from MTV news re ticket prices

Michael Jackson fans have already been angered by the ticket pricing structure, with better seats allocated according to the size of each purchaser's charity "donation".

Tickets for the best seats in the middle tier will be on sale for £240, while the best standing tickets cost £195.
King of Pop fans better get saving&#8230;
http://www.mtv.co.uk/news/michael-jackson/328094-michael-jackson-tribute-concert-lineup-revealed

 

[ilmjj]

If ticket sales are bad maybe they will offer a photo op with the kids. Why not? *please tap your sarcasm meter*

 

[Ben]

Well, too late to save since the registration stops on the 16th. SMH

 

[JMie]

195 pounds for seeing 3T and the rest of them? I admire their self-evaluation

 

[ivy]

I think the price of a decent seat is quite high actually