I really have so much I want to say but dont want to offend the death hoax fans. There are some I have issues with but Most are very young, nieve and did not even become a fan untill after Michael died so they had no real greif or feeling of loss as those of us who were following Michael and his career for many years_ especially that last few yrs where we were anticipating his return and following his every move very closley. Many of us have a deep emotional attachments to Michael. becuase we grew so close over the years and loved him and cared about what was happening in his life. We were very protective of him - becuase we knew he was always under attack and being exploited.
When he announced his concerts_ It was such a joyful emotional time all the fans we were estatic here
When the news came in of his death it was pure devistation _ for us the world stopped : ... (
he was our sweet brother and much more than that to many of us.
Many young and new fans got caught up in the death hoax knowing NOTHING of Michael Jacksons history or character _ just what they were told by those leading the death hoax investigations and they they were happy to be excepted into the MJ family and part of all the all the hoopla _ but they really had no way to Judge what was true or not about MJ. They didnt realise how far outside the community they were sitting when they started. They didnt belong to a MJ forum or know anything that was going on up untill Michael death_ only the sensational stories they were being told by other hoax fans. who also knew nothing about Michael Jackson or his history when they started.
The people who started this were not MJ fans at all and they even admit that. They were just investigating inconsistancies they saw and were interpreting them into being reasons he might be alive _ No information on Michaels history or character that we have grown to know over the years from his own words and those who knew him .
Soon the death hoax stories grew wilder and wilder and more sensational based on fairy tails bunny trails Illunimati and even commercials .. they found a clue in every un related thing they could dig up _ I could deal with that _ UNTILL They started making Michael a puppett and saying it was himself sending them messages and he was being part of all this insanity _ he was now playing a silly game of clue with them over this. WHY would he be playing clue games when the world was devistated and over something so important??
Then they started mocking his familys greiving and saying the children were not acting sad enough or someone in the family smiled _and they started making fun of them. DR Murray is a hero and helping Michael. Thats when I became very angry over all the death hoax nonsense as that was very unfair and rude to the family in my opinion to make such comments about them and even to them _ you should see the rude comments left on the familys twitter accounts mocking them over MJs death
now Im not saying there are not inconsistancies going on becuase we dont have all the info and the media all states different things at times. BUT that is the media _ those claims are always inconsistsant when it comes to anything Michael. Also the Jackson make inconsistant claims becuase they are not all on the same page _ but none has made any claim close to Michael being alive. They twist the words of the family like a pretzel.
Here is some common statements made
read what you can not see .. the truth is there
Look behind the words .. seek the truth
believe what you can not see the truth is there
WHAT ???????????
So that means they can take any story or any statement and turn it to mean whatever
they want regarldless of context, common sense or even deceny in some cases as long as
leads ro Michael being alive _ This is the mentality of many in the death hoax community
Not all but most I have talked with. when you try and show that is ludicris or the wrong way
to seek any truth of the matter _ they ger very upset _ most are very young cant back up
thier reasons _ so they just call you names for questioning thier beliefs _
Keep the faith in Michael _ Hey I do have faith in Michael _
but they mean keep faith in the death hoax they cant seperate Michael from it Most cant even make a video to tribute Michael Its always about a NEW clue from a coke commercial or Alice and wonderland etc etc .. of the latest movie or something Jermain or Janet said _ that is taken completly out of context _ we can discuss those
The movie TII is not Michael speaking about his [etrfomances he is speaking to them about clues of what is is planning to do and clues he is alive _ when he says he is taking off his jacket and going to sizzle and come back in _ its not about his perfomance Its a bout the Big BAM _
We know Michael was planning his shows and rehearsing his shows _some where even there _ to say he was not and was lying to his fans it taking TII complety our of context of what was going on. Its a
Faaaaaaaaat stretch _ they say well how do you know?? Well we know becuase we have common sense and know Michael jackson and what he was doing- Its not hard to understand or see that reality. Taking it elswhere is what is unrealistic and they know that.
We know Michael Jackson isnt the demi God they make him to be_ He isnt ruling the entertainment business into covering for him or Chris Angel the coke company or McDonalds or the new movies _ that are not even related to MJ _ they say he is personally leaving clues in all these things _ Thats when it become unrealistic and leaves reality behind _that is where it becomes a fairytale and has no realationship to reality or the the character or personality of Michael. He never had that power , No one has that power _ He was human and often taken advantage of _ but never followed by these entities _ He had Power on the statge and over his fans which he never used negativly _ he used it to sho them how to love and except one another and to help one another and to take care of the children _ The power he did have was only used for good ..
They say we cant know what MJ would or wouldnt do _ that is wrong becuase you can righteously judge a person by there known character and their past actions through out the years . I can say that many of us did know Michael and what we could ALWAYS expect from him _ YES many suprises
in his wardrobe and his loooks and his perfomances. sometimes shy sometimes bold
BUT his character ALWAYSY remained the same through out and we could trust him and have faith that he would remain true faithful kind generous etc .. never vengeful or vindictive toward others That would never change. The death hoax fans have no concept of his character and mock us for saying we know his character _ becuase we have followed his life for years. he isnt going to do an about face and noy be Michael jackson who everyone that know him stated how he was.
That is the ONE main evidence for MOST Fans who have followed MJ for years. WE know he would never do such a thing _ and carry it on and allow all that is going on to continue _ His heart was to Big an caring to put his family friends fans and the world through all this tumoil FOR ANY REASON _ Not even life or death _ The man had scruples and was strong in
his convictions _ Its true _ That there are many thing worse then death to a man.
Im not attacking anyone in this community Just stating some opinions I have based on the things I know going on in the death hoax community. I know becuase I am a member of almost every DH board -seeking to see what it is that makes them believe. So far I have seen nothing that shows he is alive just lots of speculation and some fantasy.
I dont have anything against people who believe MJ is alive I only rail when they try and make him into an idiot. Stating he is doing such and such a thing right now that is so ridiculas and beyond his person and character, they act like they are in contact with him. SHOW me where ? There are many death hoax fans that state they are Michael on Twitter and face book and these fans rush to them ALL as if they believe them _all they have to say Is "I Love you more" and that proves it is Michael _ and they wont listen when you show them otherwise _ they dont care .. its all a fantasy game to Many and even Believers comment that it has gotten out of hand _ but they can even rail to much for fear of being ostracised from The DHC. which I have seen first hand when they question in these DH forums
there are death hoax fans who state they are in direct contact with Michael and all say the same ridiculas things and never give any thing to show the Michael Jackson we have learned to know and love _ nothing they say is even near what MJ would be stating at a time like this _ and those of you who have followed him for years know exactly what Im talking about, He would have somethign VERY IMPORTANT to say if he ever came forward after all this _ not a bunch of I love you mores and your so sweet and I love you all and blah blah blah _ anyone who belive that does NOt know anything about Michael Jackson, he was deep when it was important.
OMG Sorry I have gone on more than I thought (embarrased) didnt realise I had this much to say when i started
but this is something that is really important to me
Mods Please dont close this thread fans need to discuss this somewhere
ITS important .. lets disagree but lets not personally attack each other
Just debate the topic and Issue ONLY _ so we can discuss this.
NOTE:
If you find something I said that you disagree with please quote my exact
words and state where I am wrong and Ill be happy to dicuss it with you.
but please read my whole post so you dont take anything out of context
I would love to discuss this with MJ fans
Ill either admit my mistake or prove you wrong
