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Dangerous Incorporated said:
Again I have seen NO real proof at all the any fan has committed suicide due to Michaels passing. Any if they did, Michael should not be held accountable for other peoples actions. Again IF he did this, it may have been to protect his life or his childrens. For that I would understand.

And No Linda thats not true. Again IF MJ did do this, we dont know the circumstances and shouldnt be jumping to conclusions such as jail. Have we learnt nothing from Michael's past? What if Michael is in Witness Protection?? AND Michael would only be arrested in US.

Remember Olivia Newton Johns ex faked his death and his ex wife and son cashed in his life insurance. He recently resurfaced and admitted he faked his death and has received NO REPERCUSSIONS for doing so. His reasons for doing so was financial.
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Am i reading well,and you think that Michael is alive??You really think Michael faked his death?Why?what makes you say so?
 
Some people have obviously never been to the hoax thread !! try it out sometime guys and read through the 120+ pages of inconsistencies and bizarre stuff surrounding this topic. and if you dont have the password then google it, and look at some death hoax forums. just because we are looking at these sites and gathering information, it doesnt mean we're gullible or crazy or whatever you may think. it means that there is a whole lot of stuff that doesnt make sense regarding this case and it wouldnt hurt for you guys to look at it yourself. remember "before you judge me, try hard to love me" if MJ EVER taught us ANYTHING, thats what he taught us. never to judge someone before you get to know them and where theyre coming from. and shame on people who are saying that IF he does come back and IF he did fake his death, he will not be forgiven and he would not be respected anymore. are you kidding me??? I dont believe a 100% that he is alive, and nobody can be really, but i just THINK he might be, because of all the facts thrown in my face. but either way i DONT know that whole truth, but if it is a possibility, then it sure is for a good reason. and I would not judge as quickly as most of you did. I have been a fan for many years, and love him with all my heart. He has been with me for most of my life, and i dont know about you, but he helped me through many things in my life. I am sure most of you feel this way about him now, most of you that said that he would never be forgiven if he did infact fake his death. How can you make that kind of judgement on a man that has done so much for each of us individually and for the WHOLE world?????? i reallllllllllllllly cant understand that. I cant believe that any fan would ever turn their back to the most wonderful, pure, innocent man in the world! hypothetically or not. the fact that you state that you would never forgive him and that you wouldnt be able to respect him anymore means that you WOULD feel like that. This thread started out as being just hypothetical. and you guys turned into something SO ugly!! All of you would never have made such a judgement about him before June 25. Even if he was accused of something as horrible as murder, everyone on this board would be 110% sure that he was innocent without even thinking twice about it. Thats what happened in 05 trial wasnt it? we ALL knew that he was innocent. 150% sure. nobody said well if he did do this i would never forgive him. because we KNOW that he wouldnt ever do something like that. I could go on and on and i think my post has become way too long. but thats how disappointed and shocked i am right now that people are actually saying these things on here. Thats not even the purpose of this thread, no one asked would you forgive him, it was HYPOTHETICAL!!! just to see how everyone would react to it if this does happen. Anyway, before you make all these snap judgments, take a look at all the facts we have gathered at the hoax thread and look at hoax forums. I think thats better to be aware of the things you ALL are shooting down before you make these snap judgments. Thats All!!!
 
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Mariajoaosilva said:
Am i reading well,and you think that Michael is alive??You really think Michael faked his death?Why?what makes you say so?
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The most bizaare murder investigation I have ever witnessed for one.

Plus 830492830 worth of inconsistencies and oddities that no once can realistically explain except for a faux death. I wish I didnt feel crazy thinking MJ is alive but when you really look and studying everything regarding MJs passing, it all points to one thing. There is simply WAY too much that can not be explained.

I want realistic answers and no one can give them.

The biggest tell tale sign though is simply.....the family!!
 
WeegieMac said:
At the same time though, and I'm sorry if this offends anyone, but taking your life because your favourite pop singer died is somewhat ... drastic.

I've been a fan since I was a child, 8 years old when the Bad album came out in 87 and I first seen that video for The Way You Make Me Feel. I've defending Michael all my days against those who called him weird and insisted he abused children.

However, I also have a wife, a mortgage, two dogs, and am trying for our first child ... Michael meant a lot, he still does, but I would never contemplate ending my own life because of his passing or the passing of any other favourite celebrities or figures of interest.
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You might have your life figured out, but anyone who's ever even contemplated suicide is more than likely dealing with depression issues, trouble at work, home, school etc, financial trouble, caring for sick relatives. So maybe it's difficult to relate to that state of mind. They won't be getting married, buying pets, getting a mortgate, trying for kids, because people who are clinically depressed are simply not interested in those things. They've lost hope and see nothing in their future. Many simply stop trying to reach any goals they once had. I doubt it's ever as black and white as "Susie killed herself because Michael Jackson died." 'Susie' probably had lots of other issues she was struggling with to begin with, and maybe this was the straw that broke the camel's back. Do you see what I mean? If someone is dealing with long term mental health issues, sometimes one really, REALLY bad day is all it takes to push them over the edge.
 
Adore said:
You might have your life figured out, but anyone who's ever even contemplated suicide is more than likely dealing with depression issues, trouble at work, home, school etc, financial trouble, caring for sick relatives. So maybe it's difficult to relate to that state of mind. They won't be getting married, buying pets, getting a mortgate, trying for kids, because people who are clinically depressed are simply not interested in those things. They've lost hope and see nothing in their future. Many simply stop trying to reach any goals they once had. I doubt it's ever as black and white as "Susie killed herself because Michael Jackson died." 'Susie' probably had lots of other issues she was struggling with to begin with, and maybe this was the straw that broke the camel's back. Do you see what I mean? If someone is dealing with long term mental health issues, sometimes one really, REALLY bad day is all it takes to push them over the edge.
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At which you cant blame Michael Jackson can you?
 
Yes, he'd be arrested instantly in most countries. But, he could hold a "comeback" concert in a country which does not extradite to the US.

Wishful thinking :(
 
Well first and foremost, he'd have A LOT of explaining to do.
 
Siyahamba said:
Yes, he'd be arrested instantly in most countries. But, he could hold a "comeback" concert in a country which does not extradite to the US.
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But Mike aint no idiot and wouldnt do it just for the heck of it or if we would be thown in jail.

And again....the example of Olivia Newton Johns ex as Ive already stated.
 
Dangerous Incorporated said:
Again I have seen NO real proof at all the any fan has committed suicide due to Michaels passing. Any if they did, Michael should not be held accountable for other peoples actions. Again IF he did this, it may have been to protect his life or his childrens. For that I would understand.

And No Linda thats not true. Again IF MJ did do this, we dont know the circumstances and shouldnt be jumping to conclusions such as jail. Have we learnt nothing from Michael's past? What if Michael is in Witness Protection?? AND Michael would only be arrested in US.

Remember Olivia Newton Johns ex faked his death and his ex wife and son cashed in his life insurance. He recently resurfaced and admitted he faked his death and has received NO REPERCUSSIONS for doing so. His reasons for doing so was financial.
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Dangerous, you're totally ignoring reality.
Linda's right. He's Michael frickin' Jackson, trust me, they'd find a way to lock his ass up for faking his death. No one cared when Olivia Newton Johns ex "died". When Jackson died, the ENTIRE WORLD mourned!
You really think he could just come back and not have half the world's population not be a little ticked off. You're fandom is starting to blind you dude.
 
Dangerous Incorporated said:
Again I have seen NO real proof at all the any fan has committed suicide due to Michaels passing. Any if they did, Michael should not be held accountable for other peoples actions. Again IF he did this, it may have been to protect his life or his childrens. For that I would understand.

And No Linda thats not true. Again IF MJ did do this, we dont know the circumstances and shouldnt be jumping to conclusions such as jail. Have we learnt nothing from Michael's past? What if Michael is in Witness Protection?? AND Michael would only be arrested in US.

Remember Olivia Newton Johns ex faked his death and his ex wife and son cashed in his life insurance. He recently resurfaced and admitted he faked his death and has received NO REPERCUSSIONS for doing so. His reasons for doing so was financial.
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DI can you look past the safety and sanctity of this little forum to see the possibilities? I mean, I personally would love to see that this whole "death" thing was a hoax and that he was alive. But I am saying that nationally here in the US, it would not go over well at all. Trust me. I have seen too many hate filled posts from others outside of this forum to figure that out. Also, those hate-filled haters would have a field day if this turned out to be a "hoax". The families of those committing suicide would try to sue...(and I agree with most here - committing suicide because your very famous and favorite pop-star is dead is taking the fandom thing a little too far).
 
I would hate to find this out :( It would be terrible. Those tears those children cried were real; he would never do that, but if he did come back i would find it really difficult to forgive him. I would still buy a ticket though, and he would probably still break ticket sales records.

I really miss him :'(
 
*sigh* ..clearly we have very different beLIEves on what happened on June 25.. cant we just agree to disagree then? ..stop putting each other down for different opinions.. the truth will prevail, right? if people are interested to know about ALL the many weird things surrounding June 25, they will..

...everything isnt always as it seems...fact.
 
Kingofpop2424 said:
Dangerous, you're totally ignoring reality.
Linda's right. He's Michael frickin' Jackson, trust me, they'd find a way to lock his ass up for faking his death. No one cared when Olivia Newton Johns ex "died". When Jackson died, the ENTIRE WORLD mourned!
You really think he could just come back and not have half the world's population not be a little ticked off. You're fandom is starting to blind you dude.
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You're just assuming that Michael might have done this flippantly or without considering the consequences. IF Michael did this, he would not risk himself going to jail even if accidentally discovered therefore IF he did this, knowing Michael would not want to go to jail, its likely to surmise that Michael did with help of the authorities.

And no my fan dome is not blinding me. Im not an idiot. We all here would be very glad and happy that Michael is alive and well as well as many others in the world. For Michael to do this, it would mean that he had to take drastic measures with no alternative. Explaining as such to the world the reasons for doing so would change public opinion.
 
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Dangerous Incorporated said:
At which you cant blame Michael Jackson can you?
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Yes, MJ can be blamed. It's called depraved indifference. People can be blamed by law for bullying people on the net until they take their lives. MJ can be blamed. Sometimes people who kill themselves lead very normal lives. They do but homes, have children, but it takes an event to disturb them so much that they go overboard. Legally MJ could be held responsible. But of course, as you said, it would depend on the reasons behind why he did it to explain his culpability.

Also, I looked up suicides relate to Mj's death. I was right. I did see it all over the news. The only thing is, that the news outlets all have a single source for their info, which is a fansite. So, I don't know.

If MJ faked his death, I would be very angry. And as I said, as long as he didn't come back as if nothing happened saying it was private or something, I might forgive. But I would need to know specifically why such a drastic thing had to be done. And either his children are fantastic actors or they really believed he was dead which is near unforgiveable. I don't know. I am torn.
 
Anyone who seriously believes that MJ's death is a hoax and that he is still alive deserves a good hard slap across the face and a huge dose of reality. End of -_-
 
Dangerous Incorporated said:
You're just assuming that Michael might have done this flippantly or without considering the consequences. IF Michael did this, he would not risk himself going to jail even if accidentally discovered therefore IF he did this, knowing Michael would not want to go to jail, its likely to surmise that Michael did with help of the authorities.

And no my fan dome is not blinding me. Im not an idiot. We all here would be very glad and happy that Michael is alive and well as well as many others in the world. For Michael to do this, it would mean that he had to take drastic measures with no alternative. Explaining as such to the world the reasons for doing so would change public opinion.
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Dangerous, when has Michael EVER been successful at explaining himself?
Yeah, never. Justifying why he faked his own death would probably go over smoothly with most fans (like you). But the average Joe who belittled Jackson all these years and then upon learning of his death, softened their opinion on the guy and went out and bought up tons of his music as a way to pay tribute would be pissed. And they'd have every right to be. Michael wasn't able to convince folks that sharing your bed with a child not related to you wasn't weird, so how on earth would he be able to do so about an elaborate death hoax?
The media would still be able to control the message and make MJ look freakier than they've already done.
 
andythemisfit said:
Anyone who seriously believes that MJ's death is a hoax and that he is still alive deserves a good hard slap across the face and a huge dose of reality. End of -_-
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You don't really have the rights to say that. Go read the hoax forum, read the clues, everything that doesn't add up and MORE, THEN, say it's not a hoax and that those who believe it is deserves a good hard slap across the face and a huge dose of reality.
 
andythemisfit said:
Anyone who seriously believes that MJ's death is a hoax and that he is still alive deserves a good hard slap across the face and a huge dose of reality. End of -_-
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Ahah.. I will pray for you if MJ comes back. Sadly.

You think this hoax a kid game? Its serious.

And by the way, ill help you a bit, did you hear the last interview with Rebbie? You didint find anything suspicious in it ?

“I think it’s a lot more than that possibly. We’ll find out. I can’t say too much, but it’s interesting what’s going on. I don't know exactly what happened, I think theres gonna be interesting results for everyone”

Interesting results ? LOL Lets see them rebbie, lets see them
 
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Calotte12 said:
And by the way, ill help you a bit, did you hear the last interview with Rebbie? You didint find anything suspicious in it ?
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No.

Alright guys, I know this is a sensitive subject. Let's not turn this tread into a "Is he alive", "Is he not alive" thread. We already have a thread in the conspiracy section to discuss this.

Let's focus more so on How big a tour would be if MJ came back? I know that will lead to off shots and side notes, but as long as these are not prolonged discussion about whether the hoax is possible, we will be ok!:yes:


Thanks guy!
(Oh yeah, and belittling others opinions and demeaning their views is not cool not matter what the discussion is. :))
 
I think it's sad that we have fans who still can't accept that MJ's gone and ain't coming back. If it helps them feel better to believe he's hiding out on the Virgin Islands sippin pina colada's, so be it.
Still, it's pretty sad.
 
Kingofpop2424 said:
I think it's sad that we have fans who still can't accept that MJ's gone and ain't coming back. If it helps them feel better to believe he's hiding out on the Virgin Islands sippin pina colada's, so be it.
Still, it's pretty sad.
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Well, maybe if you just look at certain things it will make you more open about it ! Its not a sad thing, Ive mourned him for 8 months, then I opened my eyes.
 
I think quite a lot of fans believed it could be a hoax or something. If it really was a hoax Michael must explain the whole situation. That would put him not just into a full media attention again, he would be in jail. That's a serious case faking death.. I mean, why would he fake death(although I really wish he did because I want him back too) because he knew the fans loved him so much that they suicide for him.
 
Here's how I feel about the "alive/hoax vs. gone forever" thing....

I would have never EVER thought we'd have to say goodbye to Michael so soon. It was a complete shock to hear about MJ's death and the pain is still unbearable. A day doesn't go by that I don't think about Michael and I still cry very, very often because I miss Michael so much. Yes, he was "just an entertainer" and someone I did not know personally, but he still meant/means a lot to me. Michael has brought so much joy and happiness into my life in so many different ways. He's been a role model and a "source of strength". He has just been a big part of my life since 1987, and I could never thank him enough for all the happy moments I was able to have because of him. All the beautiful memories make me smile through the tears and I am SO GRATEFUL I was able to have those moments. However, because I had the HAPPIEST moments in my life thanks to MJ, his death naturally completely tore my heart apart.

That being said...Because I miss him SO MUCH and just do NOT want him to be gone forever, I keep praying there would be a way to have him back. I don't really believe in a hoax. And it's hard to believe he'd be alive. I WISH there would be a way he'd still be alive and I WISH he would come back. But the autopsy report is what makes it seem "final". :boohoo: I mean, if MJ was alive...whose body did they do an autopsy on then?:blink: :scratch: It would be very easy to try to think of all kinds of theories and possibilities how MJ could have faked his death and how he could still be alive....but I just can't find any theory for the autopsy other than that MJ really is gone. :boohoo: :boohoo: That is what stops me and brings me to reality. :( I can understand the hoax theories because I too would SO MUCH want Michael to still be alive and I just want to be able to see him again! I just want to have him back on this earth because I miss him so much!! So I can really understand why people are trying to find a way how Michael could still be alive. It is SO HARD to let go. :boohoo: Also, we all are used to long waits between albums and there's always been periods of "where is he?"..."droughts", when we didn't see MJ much. Also, MJ's music is everywhere and no matter where you look...he's just everywhere....on TV, radio, magazines, internet...just everywhere. So in a way it doesn't feel like he is gone and it is very easy to pretend his death was just a bad, bad dream. So much so, that even I sometimes still have to check the boards to see his death is real and I didn't just have a nightmare where he died, because on some days I am still like "Is he really GONE?? :bugeyed It feels so unreal!! It just can't be??!!" :no:

Anyways, like I said, I don't really believe in the hoax theories, but I do pray to God and keep asking God to find a way to bring MJ back. The autopsy is what I can't "explain away", but I keep asking God to figure out how it could still be possible that MJ is alive and I keep asking God to let us have MJ back. I just keep wishing and daydreaming that one day MJ would come back like he did in Moonwalker...just appear from the fog. Or that he'd come back and would just be like "DID I SCARE YA??!!".:tease: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Anyways, to sum it up...I don't think MJ is still alive because they did an autopsy...but I keep hoping/praying/wishing that there could be a way he would still be alive. I just wanna have him back!! I MISS HIM SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :boohoo: :boohoo: :boohoo:
 
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