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[elusive moonwalker]

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"The whole world is waiting to see these children blossom," Brian Oxman, a lawyer for Joe Jackson, said.

ewwww u mean u cant wait to use them for $

 

[MarielovesMJ]

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ewwww u mean u cant wait to use them for $

Yeah, I don't trust oxman.

And If Prince And Paris want to be in entertainment later on when they come of age they can.

 

[snorlaaax]

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The fact that we even need to discuss this, makes me so extremely sad.

After reading everyones reply, I still don't think they should go. I always thought Michael did a good job at ''sheltering them'' for these kind of things. I think these kids are not old enough to make their own decision. When I was around that age I would often say ''yes'', while I would hardly think of the consequences and about the true meaning.

I don't think it's really them going up on stage, I have a problem with, I am just extremely afraid they will fall for that whole ''Hollywood lifestyle'' and want to be a part of that. It's kind of hard for me to explain, but I am just so afraid they will fall for all these things Michael sheltered and protected them from.

I know I am probably overreacting, but the last thing I want to see, is Paris turning into this new Lindsay Lohan. I already got ''scared'' after seeing pictures of a 11 year old Paris trying on some high heels...

There will be probably a lot going on these kind of shows, the kids aren't meant to see.
When I was around that age all of my friends and me would be cursing to each other, because that was what we would see and hear at these kind of award shows and television. Kids are very easy to influence and I think Michael protected them from a lot of things other kids fall for.

I think there is a reason why Michael didn't want to let them see shows like MTV before they'd turn 16.

 

[FedoraHatGirl2058]

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Michael Jackson: Who Will Accept His Grammy?

By: Roger Friedman // Friday January 29, 2010

This Sunday’s Grammy Awards is set to open with a tribute to Michael Jackson. There will be the 3D “Earth Song” from Michael’s canceled “This Is It” concert. Then a selection of pop stars including Smokey Robinson, Celine Dion, Jennifer Hudson, Carrie Underwood and Usher is scheduled to perform a medley of Michael’s hits.
But what hasn’t been determined is who will accept Michael’s Lifetime Achievement Grammy Award. Jackson is to be honored along with Bobby Darin, Loretta Lynn, Clark Terry, David Honeyboy Edwards, Andre Previn, and Leonard Cohen. Among the winners of the Trustees award are Florence Greenberg, founder of Scepter Records and subject of the new musical, “Baby It’s You.”
As usual, though, the Jackson family is at odds over who’s supposed to receive the Grammy statue on Saturday at the late afternoon ceremony scheduled for the Wilshire Ebell Theater. Sources say that Michael’s brothers want to do the honors. But Jackson’s three children — Prince, Paris, and Blanket — have voiced opposition to this plan.
“The kids are tired of the brothers getting the attention. They want to stand up for their father.”
This tug of war has become a regular issue lately as the three kids grow more savvy about the Jackson family, and more aware of their own place in preserving their dad’s memory.
Meanwhile, Michael’s self-aggrandizing father, Joe Jackson, made little progress yesterday in his court battle to receive a shocking $20,000 per month allowance from his son’s estate


NO! :no: dont let jermaine or any of those men get the statue


Is clear Paris, Prince and Blanket want to do it, even they know its shame the way jermaine and all that people are representing Michael, Michael was NOTHING LIKE THEM...

Michael KIDS ARE THE RIGHT CHOICE, THEY ARE THE ONES



Is a shame we got to the point where we have to beg these brothers(jermaine and jackie and tito and marlon and randy) no to appear, what is wrong in their heads. Michael was soooo diferent .

 

[144000]

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Michael Jackson: Who Will Accept His Grammy?

By: Roger Friedman // Friday January 29, 2010

This Sunday’s Grammy Awards is set to open with a tribute to Michael Jackson. There will be the 3D “Earth Song” from Michael’s canceled “This Is It” concert. Then a selection of pop stars including Smokey Robinson, Celine Dion, Jennifer Hudson, Carrie Underwood and Usher is scheduled to perform a medley of Michael’s hits.
But what hasn’t been determined is who will accept Michael’s Lifetime Achievement Grammy Award. Jackson is to be honored along with Bobby Darin, Loretta Lynn, Clark Terry, David Honeyboy Edwards, Andre Previn, and Leonard Cohen. Among the winners of the Trustees award are Florence Greenberg, founder of Scepter Records and subject of the new musical, “Baby It’s You.”
As usual, though, the Jackson family is at odds over who’s supposed to receive the Grammy statue on Saturday at the late afternoon ceremony scheduled for the Wilshire Ebell Theater. Sources say that Michael’s brothers want to do the honors. But Jackson’s three children — Prince, Paris, and Blanket — have voiced opposition to this plan.
“The kids are tired of the brothers getting the attention. They want to stand up for their father.”
This tug of war has become a regular issue lately as the three kids grow more savvy about the Jackson family, and more aware of their own place in preserving their dad’s memory.
Meanwhile, Michael’s self-aggrandizing father, Joe Jackson, made little progress yesterday in his court battle to receive a shocking $20,000 per month allowance from his son’s estate


NO! :no: dont let jermaine or any of those brothers get the statue


Is clear Paris, Prince and Blanket want to do it, even they know its shame the way jermaine and all that people are representing Michael, Michael was NOTHING LIKE THEM...



Is a shame we got to the point where we have to beg these brothers no to appear, what is wrong in their heads. Michael was soooo diferent .

this is coming from Roger Friedman, who isn't allowed on this site, cus he bashed MJ, and likes to stir up MJ fans. so, i wouldn't put much weight on anything he says..

 

[Lacey]

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I understand, and as a mother, I stand by my opinion. I do respect the right of others to have other opinions. Personally, I feel that those kids are still YOUNG. As a mother, if those were my kids, I'd just say "no," and let someone else collect the award, and let them FEEL the glory.

We do not KNOW what their feelings are, or if they were pressured, or not. No one here, knows. I just hope it works out ok for them.

I've expressed my opinion on this discussion board, and that is really all I have to say on that subject.

I agree 100%.

 

[marebear]

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I think it's okay that they are going to a non-televised event with their grandmother to accept an award for their father. They might show footage of that at the actual Grammys the next day. It doesn't appear that they are going to be at the actual Grammys but the night before ceremony with other people and their families.

The people closest and with Michael all the time were his kids. Even though they are 12, 11 and 7 they must feel protective of their dad. It was always just the 4 of them. I wouldn't be surprised as they get older that Prince, Paris and Blanket will keep close and protect Michael and his legacy.

 

[PCR]

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Ok... this is complicated.
We can only wait and see.
Whatever the kids and Katherine do, I just pray and wish that is the best for them. Not for the brothers, the sisters, nephews, nices, friends, close friends, Joe, and the like.

They used to be protected fiercily by Michael. That is the way things should remain. But we have no single word in this, so we can only wait, and see. And for the ones of us who trust in prayers, pray.

All this is extremely painful. Just to get an award (important as it might be) and see all the comments, fears, pain, especulation and media coverage.

We can't deny all that is something Michael would have never ever want for his three treasures. He would carry that burden gladly, just to give them the peace he was refused.

 

[twinklEE]

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Yes, I do agree, but do not forget some of his ''sources'' of his so called ''inside stories'' have been fam members themselves. ..

this is coming from Roger Friedman, who isn't allowed on this site, cus he bashed MJ, and likes to stir up MJ fans. so, i wouldn't put much weight on anything he says..

 

[FedoraHatGirl2058]

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this is coming from Roger Friedman, who isn't allowed on this site, cus he bashed MJ, and likes to stir up MJ fans. so, i wouldn't put much weight on anything he says..

Wow, how professional to bash fans :bugeyed

Hope you are right, But

in this case we all know how jermaine is, that man is just, all those men are, im sorry im not a fan of that family, i respect Katherine and of course Michael's kids, but im NOT A FAN OF THAT FAMILY, they could have acted differently, that reality show, i mean... that was way too much...:bugeyed

I tend to believe this is true, jermaine and the brothers want to be there all the way... and is just a shame,

Prince and Paris are old enough and they have noticed it, i mean COME ON, lets be realistic, they grew up with Michael who was TOTALLY DIFFERENT... TOTALLY OPPOSITE, they know.

 

[2600becs]

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The fact that we even need to discuss this, makes me so extremely sad.

After reading everyones reply, I still don't think they should go. I always thought Michael did a good job at ''sheltering them'' for these kind of things. I think these kids are not old enough to make their own decision. When I was around that age I would often say ''yes'', while I would hardly think of the consequences and about the true meaning.

I don't think it's really them going up on stage, I have a problem with, I am just extremely afraid they will fall for that whole ''Hollywood lifestyle'' and want to be a part of that. It's kind of hard for me to explain, but I am just so afraid they will fall for all these things Michael sheltered and protected them from.

I know I am probably overreacting, but the last thing I want to see, is Paris turning into this new Lindsay Lohan. I already got ''scared'' after seeing pictures of a 11 year old Paris trying on some high heels...

There will be probably a lot going on these kind of shows, the kids aren't meant to see.
When I was around that age all of my friends and me would be cursing to each other, because that was what we would see and hear at these kind of award shows and television. Kids are very easy to influence and I think Michael protected them from a lot of things other kids fall for.

I think there is a reason why Michael didn't want to let them see shows like MTV before they'd turn 16.

i agree, michael protected them for a reason. besides, it's just a crappy award and it will just be another excuse for the tabloids to run the whole cycle of having their pictures in the papers again. they are just children, let them live like children.

 

[Gottobethere]

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The question is would Michael have allowed this, i think we all know the answer is no, what else is there to discuss.

 

[2600becs]

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The question is would Michael have allowed this, i think we all know the answer is no, what else is there to discuss.

exactly. and well if they do go, then we know that they ( family) are not exactly respecting michael's wishes.
i hope this is all just 1 big publicity stunt ( not that that would be good) just for ratings and that they are not there at all.

 

[twinklEE]

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let's just give this topic a rest until Sunday and then discuss it even further. We dont even know if this is true or not.

 

[PCR]

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The question is would Michael have allowed this, i think we all know the answer is no, what else is there to discuss.

Yes.
I agree.
What else?
:no:

 

[Ernestine]

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Yes, I do agree, but do not forget some of his ''sources'' of his so called ''inside stories'' have been fam members themselves. ..

Exactly! Sources are usually the person in question or people REALLY close to them. As much as it sucks, Roger is usually on the money. People talk to him.

As for the kids, I do think it is not needed for them to accept the award on MJ behalf. They are barely in middle school. I don't understand why Katherine or Janet could not have accepted the award in his behalf. However, its Katherine decison as their LEGAL GUARDIAN!

 

[twinklEE]

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I wish those children had a mother to take care of them instead of depending on relatives so much.

 

[FedoraHatGirl2058]

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Yes, I do agree, but do not forget some of his ''sources'' of his so called ''inside stories'' have been fam members themselves. ..

Yeah, sadly right


Why is that Janet is never there, i mean, she is only there IF she can promote herself, i have no problem with it, but Michael is his brother... i dont understand that woman... i really dont.

The other day i was seeing when Michael was inducted to the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame the first time with the Jackson Five on 1997, the brothers almost didnt let Michael spoke, Michael was the last one to talk, you can see he was trying to, they wouldnt let him... it was hurtful to watch really..

His second Induction to the Rock And Roll Of Fame as a SOLO artist, i was amazed, none of his brothers or sisters nor his parents where there, that was also painful... what happened, they were not fighting to BE THERE...jelousy i guess...

 

[babykinsilk05]

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Yeah, sadly right


Why is that Janet is never there, i mean, she is only there IF she can promote herself, i have no problem with it, but Michael is his brother... i dont understand that woman... i really dont.

The other day i was seeing when Michael was inducted to the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame the first time with the Jackson Five on 1997, the brothers almost didnt let Michael spoke, Michael was the last one to talk, you can see he was trying to, they wouldnt let him... it was hurtful to watch really..

His second Induction to the Rock And Roll Of Fame as a SOLO artist, i was amazed, none of his brothers or sisters nor his parents where there, that was also painful... what happened, they were not fighting to BE THERE...jelousy i guess...

I saw the same clip (of the 1997 R&R Induction) and I didn't get that feeling. They looked like they were clowning around with eachother. They seemed really cute.

As for the 2001 Induction, they didn't really pan to the audience so you can't say that NONE of his fam was there. Besides, he did thank them all in his speech.

As for Janet, that women has her own career to resurrect. She aint worried about yet ANOTHER award MJ is getting, even if he is gone.

 

[twinklEE]

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I saw the same clip (of the 1997 R&R Induction) and I didn't get that feeling. They looked like they were clowning around with eachother. They seemed really cute.

As for the 2001 Induction, they didn't really pan to the audience so you can't say that NONE of his fam was there. Besides, he did thank them all in his speech.

As for Janet, that women has her own career to resurrect. She aint worried about yet ANOTHER award MJ is getting, even if he is gone.

That is indeed true.

 

[marebear]

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With the 97 induction ceremony, Michael told them to go ahead and talk. That's what it looked to me. I don't think he liked talking in public but they saved the best for last right? As for the 2001, I agree they didn't show the audience.

 

[Kellye]

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Yes Michael wouldnt have wanted the them to do this but things have changed since he has passed unfortunately.I honestly think he is going to be smiling down on them as they do this, nervous of course, but happy that his children love him so much to do this. They cant be hidden for the rest of their lives, and I honestly believe that they want to do this. Paris wanted to speak at the memorial service. These children probably want to keep his legacy alive as much as we do. We cant put all these judgements on the family though. I mean this is the first appearance they are making since July. I think we should support their decision in wanting to do this for their daddy.

 

[Soundmind]

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tbh im not inclined to believe this. it sounds like whoever is feeding friedman with stories/info is the one who has the agenda and is using the kids to push it

well, it's been 7 months now and I don't believe those kids were not exposed to the fighting between family memebrs , if you believe what jermaine's baby mama said everyone spoke ill of each other in tha family . Those kids are SMART , they must have been hearing things , they do understand what's going on .

still Roger is an @sshole:yes:

 

[sweetbabyxsj]

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the day when they showed their face at Mike's memorial, they were already brave enough to represent their father.

 

[BabeBeMine]

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Yeah, sadly right


Why is that Janet is never there, i mean, she is only there IF she can promote herself, i have no problem with it, but Michael is his brother... i dont understand that woman... i really dont.

The other day i was seeing when Michael was inducted to the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame the first time with the Jackson Five on 1997, the brothers almost didnt let Michael spoke, Michael was the last one to talk, you can see he was trying to, they wouldnt let him... it was hurtful to watch really..

His second Induction to the Rock And Roll Of Fame as a SOLO artist, i was amazed, none of his brothers or sisters nor his parents where there, that was also painful... what happened, they were not fighting to BE THERE...jelousy i guess...

I think your looking in to this way to deep. You can also make a argument MJ seems so distant from them and more to himself than how they were in the 70's and even during the Triumph era. You can make a argument as soon as he got big he started to think he was to good for them which isn't exactly being humble. Keep in mind im not saying this is the case just making a point you can think to deep both way's. I see nothing wrong with them speaking to long. Maybe there just outgoing and talk a lot. Especially Marlon.

How come during the 2001 MSG pre show MJ didn't attend with his brothers and chill with them outside as they were taking pictures for the media. He insead showed up with Liz Taylor. When Beyonce briefly gets together with Destiny Child, there together. It seems MJ tried to be seperate from his brothers like he wasn't there brother.

 

[emmah24]

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Its a tough one. My first reaction to this was an immediate no, surely this is just someone wanting to gain, get the ratings up, plant the seed and use the kids to gain some extra publicity.

Then again the kids, especially Prince and Paris are growing into young adults. Paris clearly showed a level of maturity at the memorial that was beyond her years and they wont always want to be sheltered. They are proud of their dad and are a real credit to him. If they want to be part of it, then would it be so bad if they were?

I really dont know.

 

[AngieJ]

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I wish those children had a mother to take care of them instead of depending on relatives so much.

I know...

 

[Soundmind]

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I think your looking in to this way to deep. You can also make a argument MJ seems so distant from them and more to himself than how they were in the 70's and even during the Triumph era. You can make a argument as soon as he got big he started to think he was to good for them which isn't exactly being humble. Keep in mind im not saying this is the case just making a point you can think to deep both way's. I see nothing wrong with them speaking to long. Maybe there just outgoing and talk a lot. Especially Marlon.

How come during the 2001 MSG pre show MJ didn't attend with his brothers and chill with them outside as they were taking pictures for the media. He insead showed up with Liz Taylor. When Beyonce briefly gets together with Destiny Child, there together. It seems MJ tried to be seperate from his brothers like he wasn't there brother.

maybe cus Mike as Suzanne depasse said worked on himself ALOT and tried to learn . I believe the rest of the brothers stayed Joe's boys just that , I'm sure MJ got bored of hearing how many women each one of them attracted or slept with , do they seem to you intelligent people ? NOT TO ME
You want to be with people who have the same interests as you, people who would add to your knowledge , and unfortunately the brothers seem very much LIMITED .

 

[clarac]

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well, it's been 7 months now and I don't believe those kids were not exposed to the fighting between family memebrs , if you believe what jermaine's baby mama said everyone spoke ill of each other in tha family . Those kids are SMART , they must have been hearing things , they do understand what's going on .

still Roger is an @sshole:yes:

everybody describe these kids as super smart,I don't think M never talked with them about the family and its dynamics,just like it happens in any other family.They spent almost a year with the family they gotta have an overall idea.
I'm still kinda sad they will be exposed again,and as much as i will support any decision they make concerning their father,I'm sure 100% the grammys want them only for the ratings which is even sadder.I just hope they'll(the grammys) keep it classy and don't edit things to generate the same media crap that hurt M so much..

 

[prettygirlmj]

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I still say no these kids should not go and accept that award. Michael spent his life protecting them. Michael was good at telling them "no" when they wanted something he didn't want them to have. Even if it was the kids decision and desire to accept the award I still say no. Those kids already have been overexposed as it is with having all these pictures of them being leaked by "friends" all over myspace. And don't get me started with the paps.

I really hope these kids grow up to be adults with something positive to contribute. I always worry now and then that Paris might be a 'Lisa Marie' with all these pressures being thrown at her about her father. I'm afraid she'll never have her own identity (like Lisa Marie) and grows up full of bitterness and rage(Just like Lisa). Latoya said in an interview that prince was already walking around angry not wanting to see or deal with anything to do with his dad. Blanket cries a lot. Paris walks around with his shirts all day.

This grammy thing won't help. I hope katherine puts a stop to it or knows what she's doing.