Formule 1

[Kinga]

... and most of the time it doesn't bother me if it's biased because I'm on the same side :cheeky:

I know!!!! :cheeky:

Steve Robertson: No negotiations with Red Bull

http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/f1/uutiset.shtml/arkistot/f1/2009/10/970812

A very interesting article, I would say the bold part can be true!!!

The Future of Kimi Raikkonen
October 8, 2009 by joesaward

"The idea that Kimi Raikkonen agreed to leave Ferrari without knowing his next destination in F1 seems to be a little hard to believe. The Finn will, of course, be paid handsomely by Ferrari for having agreed to give up the final year of his contract at Maranello, but he will also have wanted another deal in place before cutting loose. Thus it is safe to assume that Kimi’s ducks were all in a row before the Ferrari announcement came."

"The word has long been that Kimi is going to go back to McLaren where things are very different these days and he will not have to deal with Ron Dennis, the two having had a rather *** No swearing *** relationship when he was previously with the Woking team. Others who were being mentioned as possible McLaren drivers: Nico Rosberg and current incumbent Heikki Kovalainen have clearly given up on the idea, with Rosberg expected to be confirmed at Brawn GP when the season is over and Kovalainen hoping for a chance with either Renault or Toyota. Suggestions that Raikkonen will go to Toyota or to Red Bull Racing seem to be nothing more than page-filling on the Internet, or wishful thinking on the part of the teams in question."

"There is no reason to think that he would be interested in Toyota as the team has yet to prove it is a winner, despite having spent inordinate amounts of money. Red Bull Racing has two drivers under contract for 2010. The team is hoping to have Mercedes-Benz engines next year, but there is a lot now getting in the way of that deal, not least McLaren which is blocking the arrangement, as it has the right to do in its contracts with Mercedes-Benz. The McLaren-Mercedes relationship is obviously strained and heading for a divorce, probably at the end of next year or in 2011 and so there is really no reason why McLaren would agree to letting Red Bull have the engines, particularly if Red Bull was trying to sneak off with Raikkonen as well."

"The idea that Red Bull Racing will pay off Mark Webber in order to get Raikkonen sounds unlikely."

http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2009/10/08/the-future-of-kimi-raikkonen/

 

[Kinga]

My new vid... I hope you will like it.

Michael's singing instead of me talking. Michael got inspiration from his own life but they are true for this whole Kimi/Ferrari/Alonso/Santander story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUKCxobafdg

 

[The One.]

My new vid... I hope you will like it.

Michael's singing instead of me talking. Michael got inspiration from his own life but they are true for this whole Kimi/Ferrari/Alonso/Santander story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUKCxobafdg

Yeah Michael's lyrics are very fitting to Kimi.
I like the pic when Janet sings "and I wont give up the fight" and Kimi is pointing at the camera. And aww the pics in the end ^_^ Just aww.


edit: OMG people are soo mean there's this site lewishamiltonsucks.com :rofl: I feel so bad but there is some funny posts on that site..

 

[Kinga]

Yeah Michael's lyrics are very fitting to Kimi.
I like the pic when Janet sings "and I wont give up the fight" and Kimi is pointing at the camera.

It's not a coincidence!!!! And also when they're singing "I just can't take it" and Kimi's taking off the Ferrari overall...

 

[Evilman]

Too bad Kimi has to leave Ferrari now. Last year (season 2008) Felipe Massa was obviously number one driver in Ferrari. Season 2007 they were pretty much equal but which has won the championship even once? That's Kimi Räikkönen! Weird excuses from Ferrari, I want the truth. Or whatever, Ferrari has abandon us, Finns.

But yeah. I hope Kimi goes to McLaren but Lewis Hamilton doesn't want him there. Damn, curse that bitch!

 

[The One.]

^ Hey there, welcome on board!

Too bad Kimi has to leave Ferrari now. Last year (season 2008) Felipe Massa was obviously number one driver in Ferrari. Season 2007 they were pretty much equal but which has won the championship even once? That's Kimi Räikkönen! Weird excuses from Ferrari, I want the truth. Or whatever, Ferrari has abandon us, Finns.

That's so true but apparently Ferrari doesn't know who would be the best choice for them :smilerolleyes:

I can't see Lewis and Kimi as team mates, Lewis couldn't live with the fact that there's a better driver than him on the team.

 

[reggty]

Go Rubens Barrichelo!

 

[Evilman]

I think the time has come to Rubens to retire. Ok, he can win championship this year but there's still 14 (if I remember right) points difference to team mate Jenson Button and I believe in Jenson's championship pretty much. Or then Vettel comes with his Red Bull to capture championship. I don't believe that Rubens has got what it takes to win championship.

Hah, it's GREAT to see many Kimi fans here.

 

[The One.]

Vettel winning the championship would be awesome!!! :wild: I really would like him winning it rather than Button. *fingers crossed*

Yes, we've got complaints because me and Kinga are talking too much about Kimi and not the other drivers lol :innocent: This is F1 thread in general, after all..

 

[Evilman]

You and Kinga aren't anymore talking about Kimi alone... now there' me, you and Kinga.

Kimi and Lewis in same team wouldn't work but think Felipe and Fernando in same team. Felipe just told media that Fernando knew about that Singapore incident that happened last year. Wow, it seems like this is beginning of one great friendship. :'D

I hope for Vettel's championship as well but he has a lot more time to get more championships than Jenson and Rubens. But I have my fingers crossed for Vettel as well!

But what do you think guys who should take place as leader of FIA? Ari Vatanen or Jean Todt? There's a lot things between Jean and Ferrari so that could harm Formulas but I don't believe he would work for Ferrari anymore then. I mean not giving any advance in rules for Ferrari or so. Ari Vatanen, well from Finland like Kimi and me, is some rally dude. He doesn't have experience from F1 (correct me if I am wrong) but I feel bad for him because Mosley, Ecclestone etc. have told to media that they want Todt to be the next chairman/leader (what do you call it?) of FIA.

Hah, tags of this thread: ferrari, formule 1 and Kimi Räikkönen.

 

[The One.]

Massa: Alonso knew about race-fixing



Felipe Massa says he remains suspicious that Fernando Alonso did know about the deliberate crash plot at the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix - but has vowed not to let it affect his future relationship with the Spaniard.
Massa spoke to Brazilian media during a get-together in Sao Paulo on Wednesday and, during the lunch, he said he was in no doubt that Alonso had to have been aware of the plans for Nelson Piquet to crash deliberately in the Singapore event last year to try and help him win.
"In all, he is the least of the problem," Massa was quoted as saying by the Brazilian media about Alonso's involvement in the affair.
"It was the team and Nelson - but Alonso was part of the problem. He knew. We can not know it [but] of course he knew. [It's an] absolute certainty."
The comments created a huge media storm in Brazil ahead of this weekend's grand prix, and Massa and Ferrari moved to clarify the remarks in a statement issued on the Maranello team's official website on Wednesday evening.
In it, Massa said that his comments relate to a feeling he has rather than being based on facts, and he totally respects the FIA's findings from its investigations that Alonso was not aware of the crash plot.
"What I've said is the outcome of a hunch I've had and is not based on any concrete evidence," Massa said in his statement. "The FIA World Council announced that there was no indication that Fernando may have been informed of what had happened and I respect this outcome.
"Obviously I'm very disappointed about what transpired last year in Singapore: I have already said several times what I thought about it and now it's time to close that chapter and to look to the future.
"What is certain is that this episode will not mar in any way the relationship I'll have with Fernando when we will be team-mates."

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79435

And here we go again :smilerolleyes: lol, good luck to Ferrari dealing with those two.

 

[The One.]

But what do you think guys who should take place as leader of FIA? Ari Vatanen or Jean Todt? There's a lot things between Jean and Ferrari so that could harm Formulas but I don't believe he would work for Ferrari anymore then. I mean not giving any advance in rules for Ferrari or so. Ari Vatanen, well from Finland like Kimi and me, is some rally dude. He doesn't have experience from F1 (correct me if I am wrong) but I feel bad for him because Mosley, Ecclestone etc. have told to media that they want Todt to be the next chairman/leader (what do you call it?) of FIA.

I have always thought Todt would be better choice than Vatanen. You're right, he doesn't have any experience from F1 and otherwise too, he seems little.. stupid (all the talk about how F1 world is afraid of him etc. :doh: )

 

[Evilman]

Yeah but I feel bad for him because Ecclestone and friends have already behind Todt's back. That costs some voters for Vatanen. But I believe that Todt is good choise of course. He has a lot of experience from F1 and he is nothing like Mosley. I don't believe that we see sado-masochist orgias (probably wrong spelled) of Todt next summer like we did when Mosley was that man in magazines over a year ago.

Does anyone play BatRacer over here? That's motor racing simulation, has a lot of different cars. Formula 1 (few seasons of it), DTM, GP2, Champcar etc... Anyone?

 

[The One.]

Yeah but I feel bad for him because Ecclestone and friends have already behind Todt's back. That costs some voters for Vatanen. But I believe that Todt is good choise of course. He has a lot of experience from F1 and he is nothing like Mosley. I don't believe that we see sado-masochist orgias (probably wrong spelled) of Todt next summer like we did when Mosley was that man in magazines over a year ago.

:rofl: Yeah I don't think so.

Does anyone play BatRacer over here? That's motor racing simulation, has a lot of different cars. Formula 1 (few seasons of it), DTM, GP2, Champcar etc... Anyone?

Nope, haven't even heard about it but since I love to play everything when I'm bored I have to check this out :cheeky:

 

[Evilman]

www.batracer.com

Pretty much has to login every day to do setup but I'd say its worth it. I have been playing it for like three years (since 2006). The game itself does the races and player can watch lap-by-lap analysis of it. The thing player has to do is to do setups and choose race strategy and choose paces for qualis and so on.

 

[The One.]

www.batracer.com

Pretty much has to login every day to do setup but I'd say its worth it. I have been playing it for like three years (since 2006). The game itself does the races and player can watch lap-by-lap analysis of it. The thing player has to do is to do setups and choose race strategy and choose paces for qualis and so on.

Oh sounds fun! I'll probably suck in it though. Have to try it sometime.

 

[Evilman]

Hah.

If you start and you want help then I can help.

By the way, how long have you been watching Formulas? For me, the first race was Silverstone GP in 2003. Don't know why, probably because there was clown running in front of Räikkönen.

 

[The One.]

Well I don't remember the exact year but I've started when Häkkinen was still driving. Probably -99 or -00. I've always been the one in our family who watches the most sport, not even my father watches as much as I :innocent: (and the fact that I'm girl makes it strange :cheeky: )

 

[Evilman]

Oh, you're a girl? Hah, surprise after surprise.

Well yeah, I saw some races randomly during Häkkinen was driving but don't remember so well. Well how young was I then? Well, I don't do match on vacation... But anyway, he was my biggest idol when I was a kid.

Nowadays I watch races with my father majorly. Too bad I missed Kimi's best races this year because of theater plays. But anyway, I watch majorly Formulas with my father.

 

[Kinga]

Hello Evilman!!! Nice to see you here!

I'm a huge Kimi (and F1) fan, I started this thread because I thought many F1 fans would join us, that's why its name is F1 thread and not just Kimi. But mostly Kimi fans and Ferrari fans came. And most of the time it's a conversation between Hanna and me.

I have been following F1 since the mid 80's, my first fav was Alain Prost, then Mika Häkkinen and then Kimi.

Lol at Massa!!!! :rofl: The party's begun, let's see what we they would come up with next year. Fight, on and off track, bashing and quarrelling, etc... Nice, LDM and Stefano, you wanted it, you got it, here's your latin team!!!!! I wouldn't have expected it that the fight would start even before the 2010 season!!!! :clapping:unk:

Kimi will be celebrating his birthday tomorrow, here's a video I've made for him, for this day, hope you'll like it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVZyRDtaBYU

:wub:

 

[Evilman]

Wow, since mid 80s! I wasn't even born back then. Hah.

But hey Kinga, have you ever saw Hungarian GP? One of my favourite races out there usually. And then of course Silverstone GP in Britain but it's not there next year. Or it could be if Donington don't have enough money to have race there. Hope it will be Silverstone still, I love that.

By the way, awesome video! Haven't seen him smiling that much for a while.

Mika Salo (Finnish driver also) just told media that Kimi would go to Red Bull. Eh, I think Vettel and Webber have contracts for next season already. But I'd love to see Hamilton getting kicked from McLaren and then Finnish Dream Team - Kimi and Heikki! Hah.

Kinga, do you play BatRacer or have you ever played?

 

[Kinga]

Wow, since mid 80s! I wasn't even born back then. Hah.

Don't remind me to the fact that I'm too old. :cheeky:

But hey Kinga, have you ever saw Hungarian GP? One of my favourite races out there usually. And then of course Silverstone GP in Britain but it's not there next year. Or it could be if Donington don't have enough money to have race there. Hope it will be Silverstone still, I love that.

I was at Hungaroring this year and last year but only for Friday free practices. But I was in Monza in September. Have you read my review? I met Kimi there!!!!!!!!!!!! :wild:

Silverstone is a cool, nice, traditional track, I like it and I know Kimi likes it too.

By the way, awesome video! Haven't seen him smiling that much for a while.

Thanks! Wanna see more smiles from Kimi? Then watch my Kimi's smile video with Michael's Smile song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3lFFZ568tU

Kimi smiles a lot but people say he's the Iceman so they don't notice it. :yes:

Mika Salo (Finnish driver also) just told media that Kimi would go to Red Bull. Eh, I think Vettel and Webber have contracts for next season already. But I'd love to see Hamilton getting kicked from McLaren and then Finnish Dream Team - Kimi and Heikki! Hah.

Aye! Kimi and Heikki in the same team! Would be nice! :cheeky: I've read that Steve Robertson denied the talks/negotiations with Red Bull.

Kinga, do you play BatRacer or have you ever played?

No, I've never heard of it before.

 

[Evilman]

Oh. Well just thought. Great game anyway.

I'd say the reason why Kimi is called Iceman is his interviews. You know, when he drives well in race, after interview he doesn't seem very happy. This happens pretty much when he goes for 2nd or 3rd.

Oh man I missed Monza this year because of theather play. But where's you review?

And still about the idea of Kimi and Heikki in same team... Eh, that's pretty impossible I'd say. Lewis has already contract for next season. But we'll see then. I'm pretty excited to see drivers of new teams and who is going to be Kubica's team mate at Renault next year. I hope Heikki goes back there but don't know then-

By the way, what's you opinion of next chairman of FIA? Vatanen or Todt?

 

[Kinga]

I'd say the reason why Kimi is called Iceman is his interviews. You know, when he drives well in race, after interview he doesn't seem very happy. This happens pretty much when he goes for 2nd or 3rd.

Yes, he's not happy with 2nd or 3rd place or any other place but 1st! Winnig that matters to him only.

I've been observing Kimi since 2005 and I would say that he has a private smile, voice and behaviour and one for the public. His voice, his smile, his eyes, his whole body language change when he's surrounded by cameras and crowd. But when he's with friends and family, he's a cool, friendly, lovely, talkative guy who actually is a joker!

Oh man I missed Monza this year because of theather play. But where's you review?

Are you an actor?

This thread, 117th page, first post!

And still about the idea of Kimi and Heikki in same team... Eh, that's pretty impossible I'd say. Lewis has already contract for next season. But we'll see then. I'm pretty excited to see drivers of new teams and who is going to be Kubica's team mate at Renault next year. I hope Heikki goes back there but don't know then-

I would like to see Heikki back to Renault with Kubica. I would like to see Kimi back to McLaren, I hope I won't regret this next year. I don't like Hamster at all, to say the least, but as long as Kimi doesn't care who his team mate is/would be, then why should we worry?

By the way, what's you opinion of next chairman of FIA? Vatanen or Todt?

To be honest I don't know much about their programs, what would they do, I have to read about it more first.

 

[Evilman]

Do you know Max Mosley? That guy, he is the chairman of FIA currently. He is leaving after this season and there comes new person in charge then.

And yeah, I am actor. Just hobby, not very old. I have been acting for like 10 months now and there's no projects for me this fall. But in spring I'll be acting again. And summer. 8) But acting during Monza GP was terrible because I was sick. Actually I was sick for three weeks and I had nine plays during that time. Uhh.

HAMSTER! Hah hah, laughed my ass off. Some people here in Finland call him Hämäläinen and that's because those people are known from being not so smart.

Nice review of Monza. Incredible that you've seen Kimi live! I have only wrote with same pen as him.

By the way, love the flag.

 

[The One.]

And still about the idea of Kimi and Heikki in same team... Eh, that's pretty impossible I'd say. Lewis has already contract for next season. But we'll see then. I'm pretty excited to see drivers of new teams and who is going to be Kubica's team mate at Renault next year. I hope Heikki goes back there but don't know then-

Me too it's going to be interesting to see what the teams are like next year. I'm also interested to see where Nico will end up.

This thread, 117th page, first post!

LOL, we've done good job :cheers: :rofl:


I hope it's rainy in Brazil on Sunday, Vettel could be strong :angel:

 

[Kinga]

Do you know Max Mosley? That guy, he is the chairman of FIA currently. He is leaving after this season and there comes new person in charge then.

Yes, I know the situation but couldn't follow the news because I cared only about Kimi and that Ferrari team, you know.

Nice review of Monza. Incredible that you've seen Kimi live! I have only wrote with same pen as him.

By the way, love the flag.

Thanks and glad you like the flag. I hope Kimi didn't throw it into the bin.

Yeah, I still cannot believe it that it actually happened, and it happened to MEEEE!!!! :wild:

Haha, yeah, I call Hamilton Hamster. A great friend of mine even made a photoshopped thingy for me. I'll search it for you. You would love it! Can be that I posted in this thread, but can't remember where it is.

I hope Vettel would win on Sunday but I wouldn't mind a lucky win for Kimi.:cheeky:

 

[Evilman]

Haha, lol'd at Vatanen again last night when I got home. Now he is sueing people. Oh man.

But I hope there will be interesting race coming this weekend. Vettel or Räikkönen for win. Yesterday's free practise didn't give us very much hope because Räikkönen was at the very bottom and Alonso was the fastest guy out there.

Main goal for this season - Kimi to beat Hamster! Kimi is leading with two points.

 

[Kinga]

Main goal for this season - Kimi to beat Hamster! Kimi is leading with two points.

Yeah, that would be nice, but with that crappy F60, it's almost impossible when the McLarens seem much faster and better. They keep improving while Ferrari getting worse and worse.

I hope that Kimi will keep himself ahead of Hamster in the Drivers' Championship but I do hope that McLaren would beat Ferrari in the Constructors' Championship. Ferrari simply do not deserve that IMO. They stopped all development months ago, made Kimi's races even more worse and harder. Plus only Kimi could win points since Massa left.

One more reason: if Kimi goes back to McLaren and McLaren would be the 3rd this year then Kimi would get the magical Nr 6 next year!!!!! Remember 2007?

Happy birthday, Kimi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[The One.]

Geez I do hope that the results of Q1 will count tomorrow! Though I feel sad for Vettel, what happened to the specialist of wet weather? :no:

Rubens' boys are adorable :give_heart: and lol @ the owl standing in the rain :lol: