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Did MJ Find Love In The Dark (continued)

Ape said:
We just wanted to give you something to do to keep you out of trouble. ;)



Moddie.. yikes.. could it have been to Lisa Marie for when he is away from her? I don't know how I'd feel if I put myself in either of their shoes (Lisa or the other woman, if there was one in his heart who wasn't her) during that time if it wasn't for Lisa, his wife. Who knows though. It is funny she hasn't been brought up in this thread, though we have never speculated on who this mystery woman is so I guess that makyukon rear end differencialses sense.

I had a bad day, I am not even about to try to fix that mess of words I wrote...lol. Between truck breaking down in the middle of the road with no cell phone and all the kids, and nobody stopping to help, and feeling totally helpless, and pricks honking the horn at me like I intended to break down in their way just to pee them off, and leaving a huge puddle of black oil, and my son with his painful toothache too late to bring him in, and on and on and on... yeah.. today wasn't a great day for me.
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Awwwwwww Ape, I'm sorry about you bad day, I know how that is, with kids and all. Sorry. Maybe you should lay down and try and rest if you can. Wine maybe?

And no, "You are not alone" wasn't sung for nor released for his then wife. If the Theory of this thread is correct, Michael again was putting it out there for her to respond
 
Moddie777 said:
I like your post. Also, Michael Strategically released this song during the time of his 1st marriage for his own purpose. He knew what he was doing, he was clever with this and kind of bold and cold to be honest (but romantic all at same time, depending on which recieving end you(the woman-this time there are 2), would fall on.
Allow a sista to break it down, LoL ( i think we touched on this before but),,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Michael is singing about one woman while he is married to another. "You are not alone" is his promise to the woman of whom holds his heart, the one who had remained far out of his reach for a time, The one he longs for but can not touch- but can feel.
The ode to his lady love with this song during his marriage indicates his guilty feelings for what he had done. It also is an indicator were his devotion was not. His spiritual connection remained with the woman who was out of reach to him, not the one right in his path.
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Thank You for all your kind words...

It's very possible that both of their lives were in such turmoil at the time their friendship grew into something more than they ever could have thought possible. Therefore, Mr.Jackson felt it was best for the both of them to walk away to continue to protect that special bond that they have continued to share all these years.

It's unfortunate that Mr.Jackson has had to continue to repair his reputation for something that he was "truly" unjustly accused of all these years...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMF1-OEZYBE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8yvx1YZ_Ks



:angel:Knowledge Is Growth - Psalm 37
 
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Moddie777 said:
Awwwwwww Ape, I'm sorry about you bad day, I know how that is, with kids and all. Sorry. Maybe you should lay down and try and rest if you can. Wine maybe?

And no, "You are not alone" wasn't sung for nor released for his then wife. If the Theory of this thread is correct, Michael again was putting it out there for her to respond
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now that, I never thought of,

As for the ex who we don't want to turn this thread into a topic about (or anyone else specific), it seems that she may have (must have) surely been aware of the song's meaning, yes? :unsure: I mean as his wife, if it bothered her, would she not ask him to let her do a different movie for a different song? Kind of odd...not just on his part for casting it all that way?, but hers for being ok with it? seems to me. Nothing necessarily wrong, just a bit odd that she didn't kick up a fuss (if she didn't)
 
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Sdeidjs said:
Thank You for all your kind words...

It's very possible that both of their lives were in such turmoil at the time their friendship grew into something more than they ever could have thought possible. Therefore, Mr.Jackson felt it was best for the both of them to walk away to continue to protect that special bond that they have continued to share all these years.

It's unfortunate that Mr.Jackson has had to continue to repair his reputation for something that he was "truly" unjustly accused of all these years...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8yvx1YZ_Ks

:angel:Knowledge Is Growth - Psalm 37
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"Turmoil" is surely a good way to describe certain aspects of Michael life. He allows us to hear some of this turmoil in many of his songs. Many fans through the years have dubbed these, the "angry' songs. Listen carefully and there are clues.

Sdeidjs, you are a very rare and gentle soul.
 
Moddie777 said:
"Turmoil" is surely a good way to describe certain aspects of Michael life. He allows us to hear some of this turmoil in many of his songs. Many fans through the years have dubbed these, the "angry' songs. Listen carefully and there are clues.

Sdeidjs, you are a very rare and gentle soul.
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Well, Thank you again for all your kind words...

At a time when the rest of the world walked away...Society truly does not understand how "very close" we came to loosing Mr.Jackson...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMF1-OEZYBE

Despite what people may think, assume, or speculate... It does not matter who he is with, has children with, who he is married too, how popular he is, or how much money he has...

I ask for "nothing" and expect "nothing' in return...

All I have "ever" cared about is that Mr.Jackson is safe, healthy, and happy...

I really have "always" been...me just being me..!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jVPH4Rmq8k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkAV8q6Bjls


:angel:Knowledge Is Growth~~~
 
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Ape (((hug))) sounds like a bear of a day for you. Hope things got better with everything.
 
Dang I wasnt even gonna post anything in here now but Girl Ape saounds like you had one bad day and i was still feelin sorry for the other troubles you had. I really hope things get better for you.

STATEofSHOCK said:
now that, I never thought of,

As for the ex who we don't want to turn this thread into a topic about (or anyone else specific), it seems that she may have (must have) surely been aware of the song's meaning, yes? :unsure: I mean as his wife, if it bothered her, would she not ask him to let her do a different movie for a different song? Kind of odd...not just on his part for casting it all that way?, but hers for being ok with it? seems to me. Nothing necessarily wrong, just a bit odd that she didn't kick up a fuss (if she didn't)
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Thanks for commenting on my post what if she did know something after they both looked at the camera i think she laughed and he had this crazy look on his face like dont doubt it or somthin like that maybe what somone posted earlier about people thinking its just a game is him feeling something for someone that aint around him or maybe that he had never even met kinda like all the guys wantin to get with Halle Berry aint no girlfriends complaining cause they think its not posible.

So maybe your on to somthin his music is pretty deep and sombody said no he was the one who said that he knew somthing was gonna happen before it did in one of hisinterviews so maybe he knew someone hahah in the dark was out ther for him im not laughin to make fun but just at how silly i sound.
 
I wrote this in 1993...

"Why can't they see the light YOU make so bright..?

They said YOU couldn't do it, but we knew they were wrong...for "they" are the song..!

WE must try to be patient, the time "will" come, when they "will" see that they were WRONG..!

Susie Deeds
Author (c) 1993

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Itsjustmenothim said:
Dang I wasnt even gonna post anything in here now but Girl Ape saounds like you had one bad day and i was still feelin sorry for the other troubles you had. I really hope things get better for you.



Thanks for commenting on my post what if she did know something after they both looked at the camera i think she laughed and he had this crazy look on his face like dont doubt it or somthin like that maybe what somone posted earlier about people thinking its just a game is him feeling something for someone that aint around him or maybe that he had never even met kinda like all the guys wantin to get with Halle Berry aint no girlfriends complaining cause they think its not posible.

So maybe your on to somthin his music is pretty deep and sombody said no he was the one who said that he knew somthing was gonna happen before it did in one of hisinterviews so maybe he knew someone hahah in the dark was out ther for him im not laughin to make fun but just at how silly i sound.
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I don't think you sound silly. Some people have premonitions or abilities to see or feel what is to be. Somehow people have lost faith in things that used to be usual in the past. If a person believes in the bible, there were prophets, I don't know why that ability would disappear. Also, if a person is open to listening to God, they can see things that line up and lead to some meaning.

I think what you say sounds plausible. It really fits into the thread and is a very romantic thought.

You seem really good at reading body language and just knowing human nature. It made sense what you said. If Michael had this ideal in his mind, or somehow felt this woman out there for him, and believed she was out there somewhere for him but maybe didn't know where or how to find her, and he had told Lisa about this, and then he sang this song, with her knowing about it and the story behind it, then maybe she was fine with it like you say. If the chances of it becoming real rather than just some fantasy, were so low in her mind that it wasn't a threat to her, she may have no problems with it. Might have even been like.. "yeah go ahead and sing her a song, I'll even be in the video, you silly fool! You go chase her, and if you find her, I'll gladly step down." meanwhile thinking, just as you said, that the chances were about as good as you saying you wanna date Halle Berry, or one of us dating Michael Jackson I suppose ;).

If it were a dream he had, and a fantasy that she was out there, then it would make sense. Maybe he had premonitions about her and it felt so real that he thought it had to be.
Anyways, is that what you were saying?

Thank you everyone for your caring and concern, that was really nice. :better: It'll be fine. Just a pain and another bill.. but it always works out alright somehow, so I won't worry. lol..just another adventure right? I just feel bad for my son who is in pain, but even that will pass and right now he's asleep.
 
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I absolutely love You Are Not Alone. I don't think Michael recorded this just to add a sappy love song to his CD then, and make extra money doing it. The way he sang that, it was like his heart was pouring out into that song... I think there were deeper messages in that song...I can only wish and hope that whoever that was intended for saw the true meaning in that song....that she knows that she cared and still deeply cares for him. And it has nothing to do with money. Never has.
 
Ape said:
I don't think you sound silly. Some people have premonitions or abilities to see or feel what is to be. Somehow people have lost faith in things that used to be usual in the past. If a person believes in the bible, there were prophets, I don't know why that ability would disappear. Also, if a person is open to listening to God, they can see things that line up and lead to some meaning.

I think what you say sounds plausible. It really fits into the thread and is a very romantic thought.

You seem really good at reading body language and just knowing human nature. It made sense what you said. If Michael had this ideal in his mind, or somehow felt this woman out there for him, and believed she was out there somewhere for him but maybe didn't know where or how to find her, and he had told Lisa about this, and then he sang this song, with her knowing about it and the story behind it, then maybe she was fine with it like you say. If the chances of it becoming real rather than just some fantasy, were so low in her mind that it wasn't a threat to her, she may have no problems with it. Might have even been like.. "yeah go ahead and sing her a song, I'll even be in the video, you silly fool! You go chase her, and if you find her, I'll gladly step down." meanwhile thinking, just as you said, that the chances were about as good as you saying you wanna date Halle Berry, or one of us dating Michael Jackson I suppose ;).

If it were a dream he had, and a fantasy that she was out there, then it would make sense. Maybe he had premonitions about her and it felt so real that he thought it had to be.
Anyways, is that what you were saying?

Thank you everyone for your caring and concern, that was really nice. :better: It'll be fine. Just a pain and another bill.. but it always works out alright somehow, so I won't worry. lol..just another adventure right? I just feel bad for my son who is in pain, but even that will pass and right now he's asleep.
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YOU are a beautiful human being...
Always believe in the power of God...If YOU ask...You will receive...!

:angel:YOU are in our thoughts and prayers...
 
STATEofSHOCK said:
now that, I never thought of,

As for the ex who we don't want to turn this thread into a topic about (or anyone else specific), it seems that she may have (must have) surely been aware of the song's meaning, yes? :unsure: I mean as his wife, if it bothered her, would she not ask him to let her do a different movie for a different song? Kind of odd...not just on his part for casting it all that way?, but hers for being ok with it? seems to me. Nothing necessarily wrong, just a bit odd that she didn't kick up a fuss (if she didn't)
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Ape said:
I don't think you sound silly. Some people have premonitions or abilities to see or feel what is to be. Somehow people have lost faith in things that used to be usual in the past. If a person believes in the bible, there were prophets, I don't know why that ability would disappear. Also, if a person is open to listening to God, they can see things that line up and lead to some meaning.

I think what you say sounds plausible. It really fits into the thread and is a very romantic thought.

You seem really good at reading body language and just knowing human nature. It made sense what you said. If Michael had this ideal in his mind, or somehow felt this woman out there for him, and believed she was out there somewhere for him but maybe didn't know where or how to find her, and he had told Lisa about this, and then he sang this song, with her knowing about it and the story behind it, then maybe she was fine with it like you say. If the chances of it becoming real rather than just some fantasy, were so low in her mind that it wasn't a threat to her, she may have no problems with it. Might have even been like.. "yeah go ahead and sing her a song, I'll even be in the video, you silly fool! You go chase her, and if you find her, I'll gladly step down." meanwhile thinking, just as you said, that the chances were about as good as you saying you wanna date Halle Berry, or one of us dating Michael Jackson I suppose ;).

If it were a dream he had, and a fantasy that she was out there, then it would make sense. Maybe he had premonitions about her and it felt so real that he thought it had to be.
Anyways, is that what you were saying?

Thank you everyone for your caring and concern, that was really nice. :better: It'll be fine. Just a pain and another bill.. but it always works out alright somehow, so I won't worry. lol..just another adventure right? I just feel bad for my son who is in pain, but even that will pass and right now he's asleep.
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Thats pretty much what I was sayin but far better. At first when you said you fool i " yeah go ahead and sing her a song, I'll even be in the video, you silly fool!" i thought you were calling lisa presly a fool but i got a good laugh out of that one.

I goota go watch that video again ill be back. Im romantic??? ok
 
Ape said:
I don't think you sound silly. Some people have premonitions or abilities to see or feel what is to be. Somehow people have lost faith in things that used to be usual in the past. If a person believes in the bible, there were prophets, I don't know why that ability would disappear. Also, if a person is open to listening to God, they can see things that line up and lead to some meaning.

I think what you say sounds plausible. It really fits into the thread and is a very romantic thought.

You seem really good at reading body language and just knowing human nature. It made sense what you said. If Michael had this ideal in his mind, or somehow felt this woman out there for him, and believed she was out there somewhere for him but maybe didn't know where or how to find her, and he had told Lisa about this, and then he sang this song, with her knowing about it and the story behind it, then maybe she was fine with it like you say. If the chances of it becoming real rather than just some fantasy, were so low in her mind that it wasn't a threat to her, she may have no problems with it. Might have even been like.. "yeah go ahead and sing her a song, I'll even be in the video, you silly fool! You go chase her, and if you find her, I'll gladly step down." meanwhile thinking, just as you said, that the chances were about as good as you saying you wanna date Halle Berry, or one of us dating Michael Jackson I suppose ;).

If it were a dream he had, and a fantasy that she was out there, then it would make sense. Maybe he had premonitions about her and it felt so real that he thought it had to be.
Anyways, is that what you were saying?

Thank you everyone for your caring and concern, that was really nice. :better: It'll be fine. Just a pain and another bill.. but it always works out alright somehow, so I won't worry. lol..just another adventure right? I just feel bad for my son who is in pain, but even that will pass and right now he's asleep.
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Okay im watchin the video right and hes in a sea of reporters in the desert and the first sign of green is when he says you're alwys in my heart. I paused the video to write that before i forgot ill see what else i see there now
 
Ape said:
I had a bad day, I am not even about to try to fix that mess of words I wrote...lol. Between truck breaking down in the middle of the road with no cell phone and all the kids, and nobody stopping to help, and feeling totally helpless, and pricks honking the horn at me like I intended to break down in their way just to pee them off, and leaving a huge puddle of black oil, and my son with his painful toothache too late to bring him in, and on and on and on... yeah.. today wasn't a great day for me.
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Oh boy! Hope things are going better. And really hope your son's tooth isn't still hurting.

*Hugs*
 
Itsjustmenothim said:
Okay im watchin the video right and hes in a sea of reporters in the desert and the first sign of green is when he says you're alwys in my heart. I paused the video to write that before i forgot ill see what else i see there now
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Okay get this next time green shows up is after he says i am here with you as soon as he sings though were far apart its the desert again back to watchin the restof the video
 
Itsjustmenothim said:
Dang I wasnt even gonna post anything in here now but Girl Ape saounds like you had one bad day and i was still feelin sorry for the other troubles you had. I really hope things get better for you.



Thanks for commenting on my post what if she did know something after they both looked at the camera i think she laughed and he had this crazy look on his face like dont doubt it or somthin like that maybe what somone posted earlier about people thinking its just a game is him feeling something for someone that aint around him or maybe that he had never even met kinda like all the guys wantin to get with Halle Berry aint no girlfriends complaining cause they think its not posible.
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ah okay thanks for that, that makes sense, that he would more or less be teased? at the idea of believing in such a thought and his women in his life are like, 'yeah right whatever lol" ok I get it

So maybe your on to somthin his music is pretty deep and sombody said no he was the one who said that he knew somthing was gonna happen before it did in one of hisinterviews so maybe he knew someone hahah in the dark was out ther for him im not laughin to make fun but just at how silly i sound.
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now this, hm, don't know what you're referring to here
 
Itsjustmenothim said:
Okay get this next time green shows up is after he says i am here with you as soon as he sings though were far apart its the desert again back to watchin the restof the video
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wow you sure are observant *goes to find YANA on youtube*
 
Itsjustmenothim said:
Okay get this next time green shows up is after he says i am here with you as soon as he sings though were far apart its the desert again back to watchin the restof the video
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At exactly 3:52 in the video it looks like hes praying after he says though your far away i am her to stay and theres this blue light coming from something white maybe they are supose to be windows are somethin.

Any guys in here tonight or should i start feeling awkward again

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wow you sure are observant *goes to find YANA on youtube*

sorry here it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eka9riEUZo

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Originally Posted by STATEofSHOCK
wow you sure are observant *goes to find YANA on youtube*

At 1:14 he pulls away from lisa i mean he literally shifts his whole body slightly away

At 418 he looks pleasantly surprized
O wow when they both turn their head in the video is when hes sayin if you just reach out to me girl
Ok so like the video opens and lisa comes and gets him while hes lying down somewhere and hes giving her hand signals as he talks twlling her something.

The video closes i mean ends with lisa not giving to happy of a smile and michael sounds if hes singin got tired of bein alone
 
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Itsjustmenothim said:
At exactly 3:52 in the video it looks like hes praying after he says though your far away i am her to stay and theres this blue light coming from something white maybe they are supose to be windows are somethin.

Any guys in here tonight or should i start feeling awkward again

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Originally Posted by STATEofSHOCK
wow you sure are observant *goes to find YANA on youtube*

sorry here it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eka9riEUZo

Quote:
Originally Posted by STATEofSHOCK
wow you sure are observant *goes to find YANA on youtube*

At 1:14 he pulls away from lisa i mean he literally shifts his whole body slightly away

At 418 he looks pleasantly surprized
O wow when they both turn their head in the video is when hes sayin if you just reach out to me girl
Ok so like the video opens and lisa comes and gets him while hes lying down somewhere and hes giving her hand signals as he talks twlling her something.

The video closes i mean ends with lisa not giving to happy of a smile and michael sounds if hes singin got tired of bein alone
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So maybe your on to somthin his music is pretty deep and sombody said no he was the one who said that he knew somthing was gonna happen before it did in one of hisinterviews so maybe he knew someone hahah in the dark was out ther for him im not laughin to make fun but just at how silly i sound.

now this, hm, don't know what you're referring to here

O i think that was from an interview he did maybe he knew mother teresa was gonna die or somethin like that id ont remember

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And I thought I was good at dissecting. Man!

I think I'd rather watch you in here than watch a movie. Look at you go.

Thanks im not really disecting im just saying what is clearly seen when you look at the video well when his hands are folded like praying hands thats not seen unless you preety much puse there but it looks like a deliberate shot
 
Sdeidjs said:
YOU are a beautiful human being...
Always believe in the power of God...If YOU ask...You will receive...!

:angel:YOU are in our thoughts and prayers...
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:hug:!! Thank you! and thank you also for sharing the music with us in here. What a nice relaxing evening listening to the songs you are sharing Susie, and reading all this and dreaming. It's just what I needed tonight :) I'm enjoying this.

It's nice reading all these new ideas too.
 
Itsjustmenothim said:
At exactly 3:52 in the video it looks like hes praying after he says though your far away i am her to stay and theres this blue light coming from something white maybe they are supose to be windows are somethin.

Any guys in here tonight or should i start feeling awkward again

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Originally Posted by STATEofSHOCK
wow you sure are observant *goes to find YANA on youtube*

sorry here it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eka9riEUZo

Quote:
Originally Posted by STATEofSHOCK
wow you sure are observant *goes to find YANA on youtube*

At 1:14 he pulls away from lisa i mean he literally shifts his whole body slightly away

At 418 he looks pleasantly surprized
O wow when they both turn their head in the video is when hes sayin if you just reach out to me girl
Ok so like the video opens and lisa comes and gets him while hes lying down somewhere and hes giving her hand signals as he talks twlling her something.

The video closes i mean ends with lisa not giving to happy of a smile and michael sounds if hes singin got tired of bein alone
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Dude! LOL you have me seriously analyzing this thing now LOL

It looks like at 2:20 on "first I need your hand" Lisa whispers something to him (maybe she says, "this is for your imaginary girlfriend lol") then she turns over her shoulder to the camera with a smug look as to say, "who's REALLY got his hand?"

Never noticed the desert/green thing until now. Thanks. Nice input.
 
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