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Did MJ Find Love In The Dark (continued)

Celebrities like Michael Jackson have a right to some sort of privacy. Yet journalists think that just because they are a celebrity, that they have no rights to privacy at all. They say "Oooh they asked for this publicity" or "they are in the public eye and we have a right to intrude like that all the time". Well, they don't have the right. Back in the 1920's the paparazzi wasn't like that. They are very very intrusive right now in this point in time. Just look at what happened to Princess Di! I mean, when will it stop? When someone else gets killed like that? What do they want??
 
I know this will be a controversial question but are we fans any different? I know most fans aren't fanatical and are still respectful but sometimes it seems hard to know where the line should be drawn. I know we don't make money off of him and aren't fans for money, our motives are different than paparazzi, and we also (usually) shower him with nice things and compliments rather than the jabs that some paparazzi take. So yes we are different, but at the same time, do we cross those privacy barriers the same as the paparazzi do? Or is it different somehow? I just don't think that the doctors office is an appropriate place for ANYONE to be following him.


(sorry if this offends anyone, just sharing my thoughts...also sorry I'm off topic, I will try to bring it back)

The observation of his unhappy eyes could and most probably is due to being hounded at the doctors office, especially with his son there, rather than anything to do with a love interest...though there is no way I can know that and I'm just making an assumption based on observation.

It's a weird thing, this fandom. It is still hard for me to understand sometimes. There are moments where it feels wrong to me. Especially if I think about it too much. I really appreciate and admire the man. I love his music and creativity. I think he would be a wonderful friend and person to know. I don't want to put him on a pedestal or worship him in any way. He probably doesn't want to be worshiped either though probably doesn't mind being adored by his fans. I Am interested in him and would like to know more, but at the same time, it feels wrong to pry into his private life if he isn't openly sharing the things I am curious about. I hate what the paparazzi do, but I love seeing the photos they take of him. After almost 6 years, I still haven't totally figured out this fan stuff.

I hope no one takes offense to this. Just some things that sometimes bother me and I think about every once in a while. But now I am waaaaay off topic again. Sorry, once again.
 
Ape said:
I know this will be a controversial question but are we fans any different? I know most fans aren't fanatical and are still respectful but sometimes it seems hard to know where the line should be drawn I know we don't make money off of him and aren't fans for money, our motives are different than paparazzi, and we also (usually) shower him with nice things and compliments rather than the jabs that some paparazzi take. So yes we are different, but at the same time, do we cross those privacy barriers the same as the paparazzi do? Or is it different somehow? I just don't think that the doctors office is an appropriate place for ANYONE to be following him.


(sorry if this offends anyone, just sharing my thoughts...also sorry I'm off topic, I will try to bring it back)

The observation of his unhappy eyes could and most probably is due to being hounded at the doctors office, especially with his son there, rather than anything to do with a love interest...though there is no way I can know that and I'm just making an assumption based on observation.

It's a weird thing, this fandom. It is still hard for me to understand sometimes. There are moments where it feels wrong to me. Especially if I think about it too much. I really appreciate and admire the man. I love his music and creativity. I think he would be a wonderful friend and person to know. I don't want to put him on a pedestal or worship him in any way. He probably doesn't want to be worshiped either though probably doesn't mind being adored by his fans. I Am interested in him and would like to know more, but at the same time, it feels wrong to pry into his private life if he isn't openly sharing the things I am curious about. After almost 6 years, I still haven't totally figured out this fan stuff.

I hope no one takes offense to this. Just some things that sometimes bother me and I think about every once in a while. But now I am waaaaay off topic again. Sorry, once again.
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I hear ya Ape. I agree...some fans are just too much sometimes.

Getting back to the subject - I think this last thing with that Halperin jerk was the last straw. How many times does this man have to defend not only himself but his health anyway? I do think that he did find someone special a while ago - I think she is still very much as much a part of his soul than he is to her. That's my opinion. I think she loves him for him. And for nothing more than that.
 
I think you are right Linda. I think that's really the only way it could work out...and he must love her for her too, with no other reason than that. Hard not to have ones heart go out to him. I think most people who care about him want to see him happy and with someone there to love and support him in a lasting relationship.

Thanks for understanding what I meant in my post.
 
I think that both people, if they truly love each other for themselves, need to come to a mutual agreement with each other and accept each other at face value. If she loves him for him, she means it. If he loves her for her, he must mean it too...
 
LindaC781 said:
I think that both people, if they truly love each other for themselves, need to come to a mutual agreement with each other and accept each other at face value. If she loves him for him, she means it. If he loves her for her, he must mean it too...
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Absolutely...
 
Ape, you are absolutely right and I spoke my mind in another thread. We shouldn't be afraid to speak our minds about Michael's rights and his privacy. We do get attacked for it, however; I know I do. The difference between paparazzi and fans in regards to Michael's privacy is a fine line. So kudos to you, Ape, for speaking your mind about that. More of us should do so.

Anyway, back on topic. Love is patient, love is kind...

And AllForMJ, I heard about the thing going on there in Oakland. Stay safe. I guess I'll be patient, myself, about your story.
 
Ape said:
I know this will be a controversial question but are we fans any different? I know most fans aren't fanatical and are still respectful but sometimes it seems hard to know where the line should be drawn. I know we don't make money off of him and aren't fans for money, our motives are different than paparazzi, and we also (usually) shower him with nice things and compliments rather than the jabs that some paparazzi take. So yes we are different, but at the same time, do we cross those privacy barriers the same as the paparazzi do? Or is it different somehow? I just don't think that the doctors office is an appropriate place for ANYONE to be following him.

(sorry if this offends anyone, just sharing my thoughts...also sorry I'm off topic, I will try to bring it back)
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I'm not offended, and in my opinion it's about time someone said it. Just where do you draw the line when it comes to following him? Like I mentioned on the page before, I feel so sorry that the man can't even go to a bookstore without having a ton of people smooshed up against the glass watching his every move and not giving him a moments peace. I know that he loves us, but he is human. Surely sometimes he just wishes we'd stay away? Not with public things, but with small private things and I definitely think that would include doctors appointments. I'd never go if he was going to something like that. He didn't really seem happy to see those fans there. *Shrug* But none of us know what's going on his life so we can't really assume things.
 
lil_miss_mj said:
I'm not offended, and in my opinion it's about time someone said it. Just where do you draw the line when it comes to following him? Like I mentioned on the page before, I feel so sorry that the man can't even go to a bookstore without having a ton of people smooshed up against the glass watching his every move and not giving him a moments peace. I know that he loves us, but he is human. Surely sometimes he just wishes we'd stay away? Not with public things, but with small private things and I definitely think that would include doctors appointments. I'd never go if he was going to something like that. He didn't really seem happy to see those fans there. *Shrug* But none of us know what's going on his life so we can't really assume things.
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I totally agree on this! Nomatter what - I could'nt bring myself to go and interrupt him when he was shopping or something like that. Also I wonder if people doesent take in mind what HE might think about THEM when they act like he's som immortal being that breathes on writing autographs or something like that :)P)
 
There is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting a photograph, autograph of Mr.Jackson as he certainly is more than willing to associate with his fans, admirers...

BUT my goodnes gracious~~~

If we truly think about it...

We as a society would have an opportunity to see, interact with Mr.Jackson out & about MORE if there wasn't such a pandemonium whenever he does surface...

:angel:Everything in Life with moderation & balance..!
 
Sdeidjs said:
There is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting a photograph, autograph of Mr.Jackson as he certainly is more than willing to associate with his fans, admirers...

BUT my goodnes gracious~~~

If we truly think about it...

We as a society would have an opportunity to see, interact with Mr.Jackson out & about MORE if there wasn't such a pandemonium whenever he does surface...

:angel:Everything in Life with moderation & balance..!
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I hear ya Suzie....I think if I were in the crowd, I could only imagine what I would do if I saw him in person....never have....probably never will either...Oh well (sigh)
 
dude aint find ish in that dark azz song ... love is all about the light.
 
Here it is!! I've got it!! The NEW and IMPROVED MJ Paparazzi Face Shield!! No kidding....I am a genius...I must admit...and I'm modest too on top of it all...

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mmm hmmm ... modest, yep that is the phrase that I would use to best describe you linda










NOT

:lol:
 
LindaC781 said:
I hear ya Suzie....I think if I were in the crowd, I could only imagine what I would do if I saw him in person....never have....probably never will either...Oh well (sigh)
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How do you know you will never see, interact with Mr.Jackson in person..?

Remember ANYTHING in life is possiable...

I can understand what your saying about being excited, but so many of us cross the line and it ends up being a saftey issue for the Artist...

I know from my own experiences being in/associated with music industry Artists, Managers, ect. are really just like you & me...They just want to be treated like, LIVE like a normal human being...

In everyday life, many not all Artist go by a different identity/name than what their public identity is...

This way, they can at least TRY to LIVE a somewhat balanced, normal life without all the pandemonium that surrounds them with their public persona...

Does that make sense..?
 
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Sdeidjs said:
How do you know you will never see, interact with Mr.Jackson in person..?

Remember ANYTHING in life is possiable...

I can understand what your saying about being excited, but so many of us cross the line and it ends up being a saftey issue for the Artist...

I know from my own experiences being in/associated with music industry Artists, Managers, ect. are really just like you & me...They just want to be treated like, LIVE like a normal human being...

In everyday life, many not all Artist go by a different identity/name than what their public identity is...

This way, they can at least TRY to LIVE a somewhat balanced, normal life without all the pandemonium that surrounds them with their public persona...

Does that make sense..?
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Which is EXACTLY why I am scared for myself and my family! My music and my career are all of a sudden starting to really take off in ways I didn't expect (especially so QUICKLY) and I am afraid that in time, however long that may be, IF it all gets popular the paparazzi (and possibly fans) will be all over my back. It is a fear I really have. I'm in "early" stages with my career right now, so the paps aren't an issue yet. But they are on my mind and I am scared to death of them. I may be going on tour very very soon, and they may be following to some extent. I pray and I pray for my safety, for strength, and my family. I wonder what is going to happen over these next months and years.... I really want my music to succeed, you know? But at the same time I know the consequences of popularity. It's totally scary.

And so right now I empathize with Michael. And it's no wonder that real, true love has been so hard for him to grab hold of when nearly everyone he has known in his life (save his kids) have stabbed him in the back in some way. :( I am SO thankful I already have a wonderful husband and terrific kids. I can't imagine being w/o them.

Michael, you truly do have "rhinoceros skin"! You're tough, man. I only wish that if the time ever comes, I can be as tough as you. Standing up for myself and speaking out on this board is difficult enough. Perhaps it is preparing me for what may come later.....
 
hi All,

I just can't be online these days. Can someone post a link or say where the latest pics of him are found? Is there a pic thread?
 
Okey madokey!! Feels like I've been gone hecka long!! Missed Mr. Man and my fellow MJ Fans!! Hugs and more hugs and lots and lots of love!!

Oakland has calmed down some...got a new president in the W-House...still gotta finish the true meeting MJ story so that lovely, delicious man can close that limo door and roll...

Buuuuuut, straying away from the meeting MJ story yet again. Sorry peeps!! LOL. Gotta take a look at this for a bit. It's been running through my mind.

Verse from MJ's song "Don't Walk Away"

How can I begin again
And how am I to understand
When there's nothing left to do but walk away

This part of "Don't Walk Away" from the "Invincible" CD has been running through my mind non-stop.

The above verse, and other parts of this song, shows us again that some songs MJ sings really do consist of his true thoughts and feelings. Some things that he sings really are wishes that he'd like to see come true.

The line in "Don't Walk Away" where he says "How can I begin again" was something that he really must have wanted to know. It was something that he really must have needed to know. You can tell because he cried throughout the song.

I wanted to take a look at this song because...not only has it been running through my mind lately...but also because the line "How can I begin again" has been answered.

What was the theme of MJ's MJJSource website? It was "A New Beginning."

See, that line "How can I begin again" in "Don't Walk Away" wasn't just something that was written to sing. It wasn't just words to go unheard. It was something that MJ wanted to know and one day he realized that he could receive the answer. He knew it. He felt it and he was right. It wasn't far away. It was in the works.

Do you remember the words that flashed onto your computer screen before you entered the MJJSource website? The words were, "The Power Is In Believing."

Is MJ now getting a chance to begin again? Yep! He sure is! Oh happy day!

There probably are many that did not know just how spiritual MJ actually is and that he not only believes in God, but he truly places his trust in Him. A person can't simply speak words into existence, but what they can do is ask God if He will assist them in removing things that are causing them hardship. If God's answer to them is yes, it is not hard to tell. You don't have to see God with your eyes to be able to see that His answer is yes. You only need to watch as those things are being removed. That's all the proof you need to see that God is giving a yes answer.

We know that MJ had Raymone say he had placed his situation into God's hands. We know we heard MJ say, "God and the truth are on our side." We saw the things that were causing him hardship being removed one by one, and we know those things are now gone. MJ's life has settled down tremendously. God's answer was a beautiful and resounding yes and He did not let anything or anyone get in the way of His yes answer.

What is MJ presently doing? He is beginning again.

He may have walked away from the land where he was born and had endured so much hurt and disappointment, but he did not stay away. He came back and this shows he did not want to walk away.

How can I begin again
And how am I to understand
When there's nothing left to do but walk away

The answer was and is, "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge Him and He will make your paths straight." Proverbs 3:5-6

If God can remove the things that caused MJ hardship, God can replace those things with a woman for MJ to love and cherish.

From his heart to her he sings, until the day he places a ring. What did MJ say in "The Way You Love Me?" He said, "It won't be long till we make vows, I betcha."

So the love story continues, as the mystery unfolds... :yes:
 
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welcome back allformj... and about the situatinon in oakland i hope something like this never ever gonna happen.. need to say it...your interpretation is very well written...God will guide them i m sure of that...hugggs
 
Good to see you again, AllForMJ! And very nice post. But hey I'm tired, just got back from my audition a little while ago so I'm gonna go to BED soon! Night everyone!
 
AllForMJ said:
The line in "Don't Walk Away" where he says "How can I begin again" was something that he really must have wanted to know. It was something that he really must have needed to know. You can tell because he cried throughout the song.
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Did he really? I never knew that... now Ima have to listen to it and see.
 
I originally posted this in the Random Inspiration Thread but after reviewing AllForMJ recent post I thought this reflection, inspiration is much more fitting for this thread.

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When God Winks at You
 
Sdeidjs said:
I originally posted this in the Random Inspiration Thread but after reviewing AllForMJ recent post I thought this reflection, inspiration is much more fitting for this thread.

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When God Winks at You


Every so-called coincidence or answered prayer is God’s way of letting you know He's thinking of you.

BY: Squire Rushnell

You’ve had another one of those days. Everything seems uncertain.

You think: Wouldn’t it be great to wake up one morning and have everything be certain? Certain in love? Certain about your job? Certain about your future?

Who could you talk to about this? Bigger question, who’d listen?

Tentatively your eyes drift skyward.

Hello? Are you there, God?

Then your mind quickly assesses the immensity of your request. You want God to listen to you, right now. How ridiculous. There are six billion people on this planet. What if they’re all calling God at the same time?

You slump. Deeper into the dumps.

Then--something happens.

A little silly thing.

Someone you just thought about for the first time in years phones out of the blue--a silly little coincidence, so silly you shrug it off. Or a prayer you didn’t really expect to be answered--was! Immediately, your left brain repeats something you once heard: There’s a mathematical explanation for everything.

“But…” you say, “mayyyyybe…it’s not just coincidence or chance!”

Maybe God is communicating with you.

Yes directly to you!

You shake your head.

Naw. Couldn’t be.

But…what if God is communicating with you--in a nonverbal way--making a little miracle happen, right in front of you? After all, God doesn’t speak to people in a human voice. He’s God…He’d do something no one else could do, just to show you it’s Him!

If so, that would mean that He is listening! Right?

He has heard you!

What if through this odd little coincidence, or answered prayer, He’s sending you--you… out of all of those billions of people--a direct personal message of reassurance? To stop worrying? To keep the faith? That everything will be all right?

Every time you receive what some call a coincidence or an answered prayer, it’s a direct and personal message of reassurance from God to you--what I call a godwink.

It’s similar to when you were a kid at the dining room table. You looked up and saw someone you loved looking back. Mom or Dad or Granddad. They gave you a little wink.

You had a nice feeling from that small silent communication.

What did it mean? Probably--“Hey kid…I’m thinking about you right this moment. I’m proud of you. Everything is going to be all right.”

That’s what a godwink is.

Every so-called coincidence or answered prayer is God’s way of giving you His small, silent, communication. A little wink saying, “Hey kid! I’m thinking of you…right now!”

It’s a clear message of reassurance-that no matter how uncertain your life seems at the moment, He will help move you toward certainty.

And it’s a sign that you’re never alone. In fact, you’re always on His GPS--a global positioning system I like to call God’s Positioning System….

:angel:Knowledge Is Growth
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so cute
 
Personally, I think MJ did find Love in the Dark. He's been looking damned good lately...the Vogue photoshoot, the Ebony one....him going to the dermatologist....being happy showing large smiles...yep. Something is definitely up.
 
Sdeidjs, Thanks for that post! That was beautiful and very fitting for this thread. Perfect in fact.
 
Aww, we all miss this thread don't we? I'd imagine it'll get going full tilt again once the album is released because we KNOW Michael can't release an album without some love songs on it. It's just a part of him. It'll be fun.
 
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