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Did MJ Find Love In The Dark (continued)

MJbabe21 said:
Yay..Im glad that I did!!! :)

And wasnt there butterflies on his suit jacket in those pictures of him from the Off The Wall store??aww how sweet :) :wub:
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Yep again! Many fans thought the objects on his lapel were butterflies I clearly saw the wings but couldn't make out the rest of the objects.Whatever it was, there were two of them, side by side.
 
Ape said:
OK Moddie get's an A (I have switched from a policewoman to a teacher I guess :lol:) And SOS....well...... I guess you pass for making that tremendous effort. ;) and MJbabe get's some good marks for her detective work too!
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Thanks for the A teacher. Did you see the chandelier? Its a must see.


Everybody should see this chandelier.
 
It is very beautiful. Unplanned I would imagine, but still seems very appropriate. Funny how those little details just fall into place sometimes. Or is it a matter of seeing what we want to see? Maybe there is more to it than that.
 
Ape said:
It is very beautiful. Unplanned I would imagine, but still seems very appropriate. Funny how those little details just fall into place sometimes. Or is it a matter of seeing what we want to see? Maybe there is more to it than that.
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The recent pictures of him with objects with "wings" aren't a case of seeing what we want to see. Michael is showing us exactly what we are seeing with our own eyes.

Blame him teacher, Blame him. He did it. It's Michael's fault, lol.
 
Moddie777 said:
Yep again! Many fans thought the objects on his lapel were butterflies I clearly saw the wings but couldn't make out the rest of the objects.Whatever it was, there were two of them, side by side.
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They sure looked like black butterflies to me. In fact it has kept me humming Black Butterfly ever since I saw them which I posted below so it can get stuck in y'alls' heads too lol.

Here are two youtube links to two "black butterfly" songs, interestingly one pertaining to male the other female, and interesting how they seem (to me) to fit this point in the thread

at the very least, you will be entertained


hers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRu1fwAmIJg

his: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y_35QWmejI&feature=related
 
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OK here is something I was thinking about today. I clicked on your links SOS, watched that, then clicked on other videos and eventually ended up on the Private home movies. That's where I got thinking. If you look at the time it was made, and the time that AllForMJ has said he started seeming happier, it is about the same time. It's been theorized that this must have been the time that the lady came into his life either for the first time or again, which is why he had a different aura about him. He just seemed in love. Well this program of the Private Home Movies is done totally different than the two prior to it. The Bashir one and the take two rebuttal. In this program he is dressed provocatively. He looks very sexy like he is dressed to knock some special lady off her feet. He is talking in a way that makes it seem like he is on a date even. Sharing parts of his life and explaining who he is. He even says in it "I am simply Michael Jackson". Nice and humble, but at the same time...he's Michael JACKSON...and in that act of being seeminly humble, he is actually saying something pretty impressive. Who else can lay claim to that? HAHA just him.

If you will notice in the "dance" in the car with Brett Radner, he asks Brett to move the camera or something a certain way, Michael dances to the music in that irresistable way, very cute, and then at the end of that bit he leans over Brett and holds his fingers out in a way that always seemed to me to say "to you".

This whole program seemed to me like it could have been done for "her" to show her who he is. They were his PRIVATE home movies. Taking all of this thread into consideration, if there is some truth to it, then it seems like there was a bigger purpose to it than just another MJ program. He is sharing his lifes story. Sharing who is special to him (the people who are celebrities at least). Sharing even his children at the end where the song "You Are My Life" is playing. "You've seen a lot of footage tonight of my life, my joys, my happiness, you know..um.. but what you're going to see now is what I'm most proud of. What I think life is really all about" Then shows his beautiful children and him with them. Showing what a wonderful family he has and wonderful father that he is.

Just some observations I made...
 
wow ape...girl you got a way to tell things...one think can you remind us of which time period you are talking about ... i mean his happiness?thank you..
 
Just from in this thread it's been said late 2002 or early 2003? I couldn't say from my own observations as I wasn't around to see what he was like in 2002ish or prior to that time.

Oh, but that PHM came out sometime in the summer or spring of 2003. I know it was shortly after February when the Rebuttal take two interview happened.
 
STATEofSHOCK said:
They sure looked like black butterflies to me. In fact it has kept me humming Black Butterfly ever since I saw them which I posted below so it can get stuck in y'alls' heads too lol.

Here are two youtube links to two "black butterfly" songs, interestingly one pertaining to male the other female, and interesting how they seem (to me) to fit this point in the thread

at the very least, you will be entertained


hers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRu1fwAmIJg

his: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y_35QWmejI&feature=related
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Now who's the observant one this time! My friend you got it! Those two objects side by side on his lapel were indeed BLACK!!! Another clue from Michael. He is revealing so much.
 
thank you ape..so moddie you mean the color could mean he is in love with an african american lady? or a lady who got black hair? asian typ...hehe ...oh my its getting closer and closer..
 
I decided to post one of the letters from Michael ( It was written by Michael11/10/2008) in here. I remeber some of you guys interpeted another letter from MJ before. So when i saw the letter that was posted today it reminded me of this thread:

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I don't know why??Maybe it was the roses that made me post it here. Im aware this letter is for the fans btw.
 
Out of the two, it's the one I'd have picked to seemingly suit this thread as well due to the roses and singular reference instead of "all of you". Beautiful letters anyways. He does have that special relationship with the fans and truly appreciates and loves them as well and I don't know if it is due to this thread or something else but there does seem to be some underlying possibility of it meaning more as well.

Who knows. (well.. I guess he does..lol)
 
Yes, I also noticed his reference as well. In the letter with the roses, he doesn't use "all of you"..Instead he uses "You" and "your".....yeah, it kind of does connect to this thread in a sense..

But yeah his fans are very special to him , indeed :yes:...
 
2 very special back to back handwritten notes from Michael. Wow. I am almost at a lost for words to be honest.

I have read them. Did you guys see the first one, in it he says: :Be alive, Be FREE. Isn't that one of the EXACT words I told you the "Wings' he continues to gravitate to represents to him. Freedom. The ability to feel and BE FREE. Michael just told us, that analysis was accurate of how he is feeling right now.

I also pointed out the opposite of being free is to feel or be ''confined". What are the words in the second handwritten note from Michael that eludes to someone being/feeling confined? Look very closely,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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The words are: Through the walls. The full sentence is, " I can feel your energy through the walls".
He is telling us she is not with him all of the time but he feels her presence. He carries her with him. He is also revealing something to us about his life. He is telling us there are barriers still to overcome. The wall has not been completely knocked down,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,he remains hopeful and very much in love.
 
Nice Moddie :clap:.... So since his lady friend can't be with him all the time then MAYBE those butterflies on his suit represented Her!!:)

And also...yes he is free and happy, by looking at recent pictures of him!
 
Moddie that was a very interesting observation of something that came directly from him. "Through the walls", "and maybe the wallllllls will tumble and something new will shine..when I say I love you, baby you gotta know, that's for all time". Why didn't I pick up on that? :) Lovely one.

I would like to say that the colour she is doesn't matter, but I do see that it probably matters to some people. I would hope that it wouldn't make a difference in whether she is accepted by fans or not. If we focus too much on that then we lose the meaning in "not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." Her colour will be found in the content of her character, not the colour of her skin. I believe that is the only colour that Michael would chose her by. I would imagine he would love this woman (If there is a woman) the same whether her colour is what it is, or was different from what it is (whatever it is) and I would hope she wouldn't be judged based on the only colour that is noticable in photographs, the kind that is outward and not the one that comes from the soul.
 
Of course it doesn't matter what the color of her skin is!!This sounds crazy, but it would be real sweet if JUST the butterflies on his suit was a sign of her( IF there is a lady)!! crazzy, but yeah wishful thinking.
 
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Please don't think that I am being rude here but, Has anyone thought about the fact that not all of these songs were written by Michael Jackson himself. Though they were all delivered brilliantly and beautifully, with such emotion that we can think this is what he feels....
What do you guys think???
 
You aren't being rude at all. It has been discussed some yes. We are just having fun deducing what we can from what we see. Some of it could be far fetched, some more probable, but until we have actual proof of a lady he is in love with, we can only guess.

Would the songs being written by someone else give it any less meaning if he chose them to sing? Sometimes when choosing cards to give to someone, we find the perfect one that completely epitomizes everything we wanted to say to someone, so we chose that card, though we never wrote it ourselves. Sometimes we just make a homemade card and say everything we want to in it. They both carry meaning for us though.

Speaking of different writers... here is one even more far fetched but possibly related? It's a different SINGER.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsZ67wZeGVk

But Will.i.am was brought into this thread before because of his work with Michael and songs seeming to match up with what we had here already. Well I figured "One More Change" could also fit in with that. At the very least, it is a really great song and a cool video! Enjoy!!

Also, the beginnings of both this "One More Chance" song and "For All Time" .. the first few notes or start seem to remind me of each other. It sits in the same area of my chest when I listen to it..if that makes sense. I don't know how else to describe it.
 
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The "roses" are making that one very special. It's very intimate. And again he's pointing out what he's feeling. The last time he said, "I feel your love." This time he said, "I feel your energy."

Also, back in June 2003, the message was a two in one. Lately, he's been sending out two at once. How sweet.

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^They're so beautiful and there are three of them. Reminds me of the bible verse that says, "a three-fold cord is not easily broken" although it could be a lovely 'garnish' for aethetics sake for the fans

Moddie777 said:
2 very special back to back handwritten notes from Michael. Wow. I am almost at a lost for words to be honest.

I have read them. Did you guys see the first one, in it he says: :Be alive, Be FREE. Isn't that one of the EXACT words I told you the "Wings' he continues to gravitate to represents to him. Freedom. The ability to feel and BE FREE. Michael just told us, that analysis was accurate of how he is feeling right now.

I also pointed out the opposite of being free is to feel or be ''confined". What are the words in the second handwritten note from Michael that eludes to someone being/feeling confined? Look very closely,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,See it yet?,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
The words are: Through the walls. The full sentence is, " I can feel your energy through the walls".
He is telling us she is not with him all of the time but he feels her presence. He carries her with him. He is also revealing something to us about his life. He is telling us there are barriers still to overcome. The wall has not been completely knocked down,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,he remains hopeful and very much in love.
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hmm moddie I must say, that is rather a hoot how it coincided with what you said :giggle: uncanny actually

Moddie that was a very interesting observation of something that came directly from him. "Through the walls", "and maybe the wallllllls will tumble and something new will shine..when I say I love you, baby you gotta know, that's for all time". Why didn't I pick up on that? :) Lovely one.
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Ape, what you've posted is remniscent of those lyrics which say, "if I could tear down these walls that keep you and I apart I know I could claim your heart and our perfect love will start"

in the For All Time lyrics he is "tearing down" those walls when he suggests that the walls will tumble



:brow: ok are we all just bored to death or is this all starting to get really really cute :giggle:

there are some people reading this to whom I should say, um don't answer that :lol: :cheeky:
 
Hahahahahahaha :lol:

So the love story continues as the mystery unfolds. The romantic one has given a -------------)--)--@

Speaking of the rose...

Ape, didn't you tell him to give her the rose? LOL
 
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I just noticed, there aren't three seperate roses at all like it appears at first sight

- its three roses on ONE BRANCH

wow.....

and looks like the note is somehow on a wrought-iron fence or gate

could it be the gates of NL/SR?

hmm

velly intelesting
 
people i can tell you one thing i m really sure..that Michael is sending messages constantly which really fits into this tread...A question to all.. would you ever send a message to someone ( if there is someone) if you could see this person from time to time..as for me no i would not...i would send such messages to someone i cant be together...i would like to read your opinions? huggs
 
AllForMJ said:
Hahahahahahaha :lol:

So the love story continues as the mystery unfolds. The romantic one has given a -------------)--)--@

Speaking of the rose...

Ape, didn't you tell him to give her the rose? LOL
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um.....I can't remember, did I? How bossy of me...:lol:
I wondered if maybe the roses were placed there from a fan but we can always imagine they came from him :D. I don't know the context in how this letter got where it is etc. It seems someone is holding onto the letter with her hand so maybe she is also holding the rose/roses there.
Still it is beautiful and makes it seem even more romantic.

Cleopatra, I don't know that comparing what we would do to what he would is fair. He doesn't always do things in the usual way, in fact, he is known for being innovative. Whether he takes this approach to his romance, I can't be sure, but I suppose it is possible. Sending her things without saying they are TO her and seeing if she picks up on it? Maybe...or maybe there's another explanation as well. He knows that anything he gives to fans will most likely be shared among them and made widely available in a short amount of time so that whomever it might be to (if more than just messages to fans) could easily...or not so easily find it as well.

Go look at that WIll.i.am video again and it actually reminds me of this (possible) approach. Placing romance all around like a treasure hunt for her to find? It's really incredibly romantic then isn't it? Her life must feel very special with him in it.


WOW AllforMJ you have a mind like a steal trap, it doesn't let anything out. I remember now about the rose comment. I was referring to "The Bachelor" where he hands the last one the single rose. Uh oh.. three roses...hmmmm so maybe there are still a few left .. ;) :p (ok ok it isn't really three roses but three blossoms of a single rose... wow, he really does have to be original right down to the last detail)
 
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cleopatra1975 said:
people i can tell you one thing i m really sure..that Michael is sending messages constantly which really fits into this tread...A question to all.. would you ever send a message to someone ( if there is someone) if you could see this person from time to time..as for me no i would not...i would send such messages to someone i cant be together...i would like to read your opinions? huggs
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Really valid question cleopatra. I have always felt that this lady in particular isn't in his immediate path: meaning, I don't believe they 'live" together but are together in this relationship and are on the same page. Michael travels alot and , we don't know where she and this relationship fits into all that traveling.
We know this, he is happy
he is telling us how happy he is
he is in love, which means, she is still around and this relationship is still progressing, and that can't happen if they weren't in this "together".
 
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