Did MJ Find Love In The Dark (continued)

I actually bought that book. I don't mind his comments because it shows how some people think and how some misunderstand Michael. I still haven't finished the book though, so I guess sometimes I mind the comments. He doesn't always misunderstand, but sometimes you just gotta shake your head at how he interprets things said by MJ. I wish Shmuley would have released it as a tape set, if it really is as he said that MJ wanted him to share this stuff. I wish we could have heard it directly from the tapes to hear the inflection in his voice and all that. So much gets lost when transcribed to paper.
 
I actually bought that book. I don't mind his comments because it shows how some people think and how some misunderstand Michael. I still haven't finished the book though, so I guess sometimes I mind the comments. He doesn't always misunderstand, but sometimes you just gotta shake your head at how he interprets things said by MJ. I wish Shmuley would have released it as a tape set, if it really is as he said that MJ wanted him to share this stuff. I wish we could have heard it directly from the tapes to hear the inflection in his voice and all that. So much gets lost when transcribed to paper.
Yes, it would be really interesting to hear Michael say all these things. :wub:

Well, I do not know what the Rabbi said in comments, but told me that things were not pleasant, so I did not buy the book. So, I have no opinion about it.

But what really matters is all that was said by Michael. Reading this book made me know much Michael and I managed to make even more enchanted and in love with the incredible human being and beautiful in every way he always was. Everything Michael said comes from his soul and your heart, you really feel it while reading the book. I love Michael even more after this book. (Yes, I can still love him more each day.) :wub:

In my opinion, all fans should read all these wonderful and beautiful things said by Michael. :yes:
 
Ash - you took the words outta my mouth, or my hands rather. The quotes are from that so-called rabbi's book. That reminds me of the fact it was Lully who gave me the link to the bull-free version of the book and in the morning i forgot to say hi to her, so... hi Lully :)

Ape, that last quote is so heartbreakingly true, you can only feel for the man; it's really mind boggling when you think about it - the lengths to which people went to hurt him and the example of character, dignity and strength he gave in front of all of that adversity is nothing short of extraordinary.

“With the pain and arrows that people have shot at me, nobody else would have been able to take it. They would have probably committed suicide by now…they would have become a drunk. Because they have been very cruel and rude to me. And if they don’t think I hear it and see it, I do. I do. It’s been the children. I’m holding on for them, or else I wouldn’t have made it. I really wouldn’t have made it.”

And that is exactly why i said the man's life experience can never be duplicated. Nobody, and i mean no-friggin-anybody in human history has known the heights or the lows of human nature quite like Michael and he dealt with it all - be it triumph or mendacity-filled shots at his good name - with the same innocence and splendor only a pure soul like his could have. And that is why i have always been and always will be so very, very, very proud of him.


COURAGE

It's curious what takes courage and what doesn't. When I step out

on stage in front of thousands of people, I don't feel that I'm being

brave. It can take much more courage to express true feelings to

one person. When I think of courage, I think of the Cowardly Lion in

The Wizard of Oz. He was always running away from danger. He

often cried and shook with fear. But he was also sharing his real

feelings with those he loved, even though he didn't always like

those feelings.

That takes real courage, the courage to be intimate. Expressing

your feelings is not the same as falling apart in front of someone

else - it's being accepting and true to your heart, whatever it may

say. When you have the courage to be intimate, you know who you

are, and you're willing to let others see that. It's scary, because you

feel so vulnerable, so open to rejection. But with self - acceptance.

the othe kind of courage, the kind heroes show in movies, seems

hollow.

In spite of the risks, the courage to be honest and intimate

opens the way to self - discovery. It offers what we all want, the

promise of love.


Michael Jackson
Dancing The Dream
(c) 1992


As Always

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Thanks for the reminder Susie, i hadn't read this in a while. The words kinda connect to a couple of cards i bought earlier today.

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To love means to get out of self and fly onto others - Michel Quiost


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Nothing is ever difficult for he who loves - St. Bernard of Chiaravalle
 
Thank you Ape...Michael was such a deep person..I dont think he was as difficult to figure out as people thought....I actually understand him quite well....and I miss him soooo much..:cry:
 
Ash - you took the words outta my mouth, or my hands rather. The quotes are from that so-called rabbi's book. That reminds me of the fact it was Lully who gave me the link to the bull-free version of the book and in the morning i forgot to say hi to her, so... hi Lully :)



Thanks for the reminder Susie, i hadn't read this in a while. The words kinda connect to a couple of cards i bought earlier today.

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To love means to get out of self and fly onto others - Michel Quiost


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Nothing is ever difficult for he who loves - St. Bernard of Chiaravalle
Thanks! :) Yes, all things said by Michael in the book have remained in my head. It is impossible to forget and not keep it in mind and heart. :wild: We always learn a lot from Michael. :wub:

Hey, I loved those pictures of nature that you posted. I love nature and phrases of love are so beautiful. :yes: :wub:
 
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Thanks! :) Yes, all things said by Michael in the book have remained in my head. It is impossible to forget and not keep it in mind and heart. :wild: We always learn a lot from Michael. :wub:

Hey, I loved those pictures of nature that you posted. I love nature and phrases of love are so beautiful. :yes: :wub:

You are most welcome Ash :) You know what the weird thing though? Your words came up in Portuguese in the thread, but now that i'm replying they are in English. To my own amazement i understood all of it, even if Portuguese ain't exactly my field lol. Obrigado for your kind words.

You are most definitely right - we will always learn a lot from Michael.
 
You are most welcome Ash :) You know what the weird thing though? Your words came up in Portuguese in the thread, but now that i'm replying they are in English. To my own amazement i understood all of it, even if Portuguese ain't exactly my field lol. Obrigado for your kind words.
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lol! :swoon:

I saw. :D I do not know what happened here. :unsure: Small accidents... :D


You are most definitely right - we will always learn a lot from Michael.
:yes:

*sigh* :wub:
 
Hi Ape...thanks for posting those quotes...I think Michael would have loved a woman who wasn't "high maintenance", who gave to others including God above, herself in service. Michael really isnt that hard to understand. He wanted someone pure, innocent and self-sacrificing....I just wished he could have found her before the end...
 
Hi Ape...thanks for posting those quotes...I think Michael would have loved a woman who wasn't "high maintenance", who gave to others including God above, herself in service. Michael really isnt that hard to understand. He wanted someone pure, innocent and self-sacrificing....
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*big sigh*

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:( Yes, I did not know that the missing could pain so much at heart. I miss you Michael...
 
I just wanted to add...how could anyone be jealous of children, especially theirs? I beam with pride with all of the things my daughter has done. She just found out that one of her paintings is going to be shown at an art gallery nearby. I continue to be amazed by my own child's abilities. I don't have a jealous bone in my body when it comes to kids. Kids are very important. And every child needs a chance at life and happiness....so I just can't fathom that quote by MJ...unless the women he's dated are jealous of the attention he gave to the children he's helped? And that is one hell of a selfish woman if that's the case...one that doesn't deserve a relationship with MJ. She should have known just how important those children were to MJ!
 
A friend of mine, in light of the mentioning of things from the guards, wanted me to share some words and thoughts that came from Michael Jackson himself. (Personally I don't think they said anything too bad. None of us really knows, even after hearing personal accounts from anyone who's met or seen or knows him. Without being him, how can we know what he's done or how he thinks or why he does anything.)

My friend gathered up all the quotes so the credit does not go to me. I'm just copy pasting them into here to share. What is true isn't changed by what others think. So no matter how much we believe we know about him or how much we hear about him, if we are wrong in what we believe then we are wrong. If we are right...we may never know for sure (though perhaps we can have a good idea).

So anyways.. enough of me rambling. Here's some quotes of his that we can take in and hopefully get to know him a bit better.

“Not on purpose (have I been romantic), but not unromantic. I don’t think so. You just be yourself. […] I don’t do that (matchmaking). I’m too shy to do all that stuff. I am a lot like my mother. We used to ask our mother ‘Do you kiss Joseph’? She goes “Don’t ask me these questions’. We go ‘Mother, do you kiss him?’, she goes ‘I don’t want to talk about it […] We don’t talk about it.”


“I believe in it [romance], but I am shy about it. None of us have invited our parents to our weddings. We don’t believe in it. We are too shy. I wouldn’t dare in a million years to have my mother at a wedding of mine. I can’t have myself walking down the aisle and my mother sitting there. […] She would have done the same thing. It’s like private, like mushy stuff. […] I am shy. I don’t know how good I am at [romance] because I’m shy. I’m very different in that way. I have heard guys be really poetic with girls, and ‘Oh, baby, this and that’. I’m not like that. I am like straight to the point and say it simply. […] That’s why it is my job to cast the girl, because it is my job to think they are cute. So I can do it if I really like them, like some of the girls you see in my videos. I have cast them because I really liked them and it caused a problem afterwards because they start to really like me and I don’t want to get that serious, and it becomes a problem sometimes. […] Some of them follow me around the world and it is so hard. [But I don’t tell them directly], because it would hurt them so much.”

“[Lady Diana] was classy and sincerely cared about people and children and the plight of what was going on in the world. She didn’t do it for show. […] [She was] very feminine and classy. She was my type for sure, and I don’t like most girls. There are very few I like who fit the mold. It takes a very special mold to make me happy and she was one of them. For sure.”

“It takes a lot to find a mirror image. People always say that opposites attract and I think that is true, as well. But I want somebody who is a lot like me, who has the same interests and who wants to help and they gotta go to hospitals with me and care […]

“I have never asked a girl out in my life. I can’t ask a girl out. […] Brooke Shields asked me out every time you saw us out together. It was her idea to go out and do it every time. I sincerely liked Brooke Shields too. I liked her a lot. My first girlfriend, Tatum O’Neil…I was sixteen, she was thirteen. And was I naïve. She wanted to do everything and I didn’t want to have sex at all, because there were a lot of values associated with being a Jehova’s Witness. I said ‘Are you crazy?’ One of those was to be kind to everyone. When I held Tatum’s hand it was just magic, better than anything, kissing her, anything. Her, Ryan O’Neil and myself went to this club and were watching a band and underneath the table she was holding my hand and I was melting. It was magical. There were fireworks going on. It was all I needed. But that means nothing to kids today. She grew up too fast. She wasn’t into innocence, and I love that.”

“Now Brooke Shields, she was one of the loves of my life. We dated a lot. Her pictures were all over my walls and mirrors. […] She was classy. We got one encounter when she got real intimate and I chickened out. And I shouldn’t have.”


“I find it harder to tell (innocence) with women, because they’re so smooth. But with men, I can usually tell, because they’re more open and like puppies, while girls are more like cats. You know how if you’ve been on vacation and get home and a puppy is all over you, while with a cat, it’s ‘Hey, I don’t need you. You walk over to me and pick me up.’ They give you attitude. They’ll walk right by you even though they haven’t seen you in three months. Women are very smart”.


“I think going away is good. Like they say, ‘Absence makes the heart grow fonder. I totally believe in it. Going away is really important. I don’t understand how people can be together all day with each other and be totally fine. […]”

“[I was more interested in] the ones who were classy and quiet and not into all the sex and all the craziness because I’m not into that. […] I don’t understand a lot of things that go on in relationships and I don’t know if I ever will. I think that is what has hurt me in my relationships, because I don’t understand how people do some of the things they do. Mean things and vulgar things with their bodies. I don’t understand it and it has hurt my relationships. [For me love is something] very pure. It shocked me some of the things.”

“[The women] I have had are jealous of the children. All of them. They get jealous of their own kids and start competing with them. That rubs me in a bad way. I haven’t found it [women who want to play]. I think more guys are more apt to goof off. Even when they’re much older, their thirties, and a woman will come in and say ‘What are you doing? Don’t do that. Are you crazy?”

“It is a rarity [finding women who collect comics]. If I find one, I will go nuts. Especially, if she has those qualities and is beautiful inside. It would be a home run for me.”

“If the person is completely sincere […] who would read to [the children] and teach them and give them the right values and teach them that there’s no difference and that we are all the same people. […] I don’t like the women who are always saying “my nails need to be done. I have to do my toes. I need a manicure.” I hate all that. I like it when girls are a little bit more tomboyish. If they wrestle, climb a tree…I love that. It is sexier to me. I like class, though. Class is everything.”

“It is hard because the women today can do a good job of faking it. I mean a real good job. They are so smooth. Look in the Bible. Women have taken the most powerful men down to nothing because of what is between their legs. Samson, nobody could cut his hair, and he had sex with Delilah.”

“Take me to Disneyland. Take me to where the magic is.”

“Even when married to those women that I was married to, I’d go to bed hurting. I was hurting. I was crying last night as I went to sleep and I didn’t sleep good last night. And I cry, because I feel this….And I’m not trying, I’m telling you the honest truth and if you don’t believe you can ask Frank (Cascio). Frank knew how I was hurting. I just was feeling all the pain of the children who suffer and I was hurting so much. That’s why I was trying to reach any child I knew who had pain. […] I was trying to like, calling, dialing and I woke up the first thing, the first person I called was (a little sick girl’s) house and she had gone already. It hurts me. But I think that’s where my real love comes from. If I can help in that way, I’m fine and I don’t need the other [romantic love]. You now, if I meet some girl somewhere and I think she’s beautiful, which I see a lot of them, that’s great. I mean, I’ll go on a date or something. Nothing wrong with that.. […] I’m not easy to live with in that way for a wife. I’m not easy and I know I’m not easy. Because I give all my time to someone else. I give it to children, I give it to somebody sick somewhere, to the music. And women want to be the center. […] And, you know, I feel that’s my, that’s my mission. I have to do it. [If I found a woman who was that soft] like a Mother Theresa or a Lady Diana or..That would be great. It would be perfect.”

“It’s hard. That’s why it’s hard, it’s hard for me. It’s hard. It’s not easy for celebrities to be married.”

“I’m in love with innocence , that’s what I’m in love with. That’s why I love children so much. Innocence is God. To be that innocent and to approach things with such a sweet outlook on life…with truly just sweet…Where a kid will walk around the house and you’ll go ‘What are you doing?’ and they answer ‘I don’t know, playing’. It’s so sweet, I love that. […] One kid is screaming in the wind because he is feeling so good. He is just screaming to be screaming. I love that. Romance. Romance.”

“[Are] romance and love two different things? That’s why I’m getting confused. I see romance as something that is longed for. You long for that out of a stage. […] [Children] teach you to be loving and sweet and they teach us in that way…They give everybody a chance and I teach Prince and Paris to love everybody.”

‘When a lot of adults come to me, they look at me and they are checking out what you are wearing and who you are with. Then once they speak to me and they see that I’m just a simple person who wants to be a friend their heart melts. I see it.”

“Just be yourself, be like a child. Be innocent. Be the way you were when you were born.”

“With the pain and arrows that people have shot at me, nobody else would have been able to take it. They would have probably committed suicide by now…they would have become a drunk. Because they have been very cruel and rude to me. And if they don’t think I hear it and see it, I do. I do. It’s been the children. I’m holding on for them, or else I wouldn’t have made it. I really wouldn’t have made it.”

Wow these qutoes were all in the rabbi's book..awww michael was so sweet :wub:
 
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I'm just so glad reading about the relationship between Michael and Ruska. It makes me happy knowing that these last few years he was happy and had some good lovin. LOL
 
The question is did he need all those women around him trying to pull his hair, scratching his arms, pulling out his watches? Why ppl think that he was happy to have that many women being obsessed with him and why we have to be thankful about this including “bunnies shaking their tales”? Did he need them to express their love that way? I think that just some women have no limits imo. Did he need ppl 24/7 watching him, hanging around in groupies? I am not quite understand it because I was born in a different culture where we did not have that kind of celebrity cult and to find out about western culture from this point of view was a real big deal for me.
All those tabloids and fans around him constantly 24/7 look just wild ,out of control. Michael did not have a tiny chance to have his own life, to meet ppl in normal circumstances, to talk to them normally. All those women who were waiting for him beside back stage doors, just to touch him or to talk to him, how crazy is that? Why we have to be happy for all those out of control actions girls did thinking that they make him happy? Do you really think he was happy to have all of this around him? I do not really get it.

He even says (from Ape post):Some of them follow me around the world and it is so hard. [But I don’t tell them directly], because it would hurt them so much.”

Poor guy even could not say to them just to leave him alone. He was such a pure soul.

Well, ppl used to buy tickets, and go watch him performing. Fine, he is a great artist, the best entertainer ever. Why just not to go home after show and live your own life, have fun with the person who is evailable for you and let him live his own? This is why tabloids made their dirty money and made his life miserable, because ppl never left him alone.

Asedora, the reason why i brought up the flight attendants and the bunnies was related to Michael finding enjoyment in them, not the other way around. I know he said/expressed those things himself, the flight attendants thing being obvious even in the movie where he mimics their hand movements. I think that's very sweet actually and demonstrates that he was just a regular man who loved women, nothing wrong with that. It ain't like any flight attendant that ever served him jumped on him or anything.

You know how guys are, they become fascinated with the 'weirdest' things we can imagine; it might be something as irrelevant as some hand movement or the way a certain piece of clothing fits or some awkward moment which may seem endearing and cute to them, while on the other hand we might be acting all high and mighty and they couldn't give a damn and ask why it took so long to change for only that lol. I'm just sayin'...

But returning to the argument before, that is why i said in any form and for any amount of time. Those women, for however briefly, provided him with some sort of enjoyment (simply watching them), that is why i think we should be thankful - from them to the ones who have captured his heart, and...as strange as this sounds, even those who have ended up breaking it, because i am sure there were moments of joy even in those cases.

Now...about the out of control girls that's another issue and i can only imagine how Michael coped with the gargantuan degree of fame and adulation he had reached. It's hard enough for us common folk and at times we want to escape and get away from anyone and everything; multiply that by a gazillion and you probably can have a clearer picture of what he went through. Watching Stranger in Moscow which contains some of the most amazing lyrics ('here abandoned in my fame, Armageddon of the brain') and most haunting melody ever and the ocean of people in Will you be there only reinforces the paradox which was Michael's life - the most famous man on earth being so dreadfully alone, especially until his children were born.

Hard as i might try, I don't think i can really imagine what he went through; the man was a monument of strength and courage. The good Lord knew what He did when He made Michael, He knew what he would endure so he made him strong enough to withstand it all. Y'all know how wood comes in different essences, right? Well, he molded Michael from the strongest of them (from his father), but at the same time the gentlest (from his mother) and that is what made him so amazing.

What we certainly can agree on is that he was such a pure and beautiful soul who deserved nothing but sheer and continuous happiness and unfortunately he didn't always find it.

I beam with pride with all of the things my daughter has done. She just found out that one of her paintings is going to be shown at an art gallery nearby. I continue to be amazed by my own child's abilities.

Linda, you have every right to be proud of your daughter. Congrats to her :clapping:

LOL @ Ash about them bilingual accidents.
 
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Linda- that is great that ur daughter's paintings will be shown at the art gallery :)
Im very happy for her.
 
Asedora, the reason why i brought up the flight attendants and the bunnies was related to Michael finding enjoyment in them, not the other way around. I know he said/expressed those things himself, the flight attendants thing being obvious even in the movie where he mimics their hand movements. I think that's very sweet actually and demonstrates that he was just a regular man who loved women, nothing wrong with that. It ain't like any flight attendant that ever served him jumped on him or anything.

You know how guys are, they become fascinated with the 'weirdest' things we can imagine; it might be something as irrelevant as some hand movement or the way a certain piece of clothing fits or some awkward moment which may seem endearing and cute to them, while on the other hand we might be acting all high and mighty and they couldn't give a damn and ask why it took so long to change for only that lol. I'm just sayin'...

But returning to the argument before, that is why i said in any form and for any amount of time. Those women, for however briefly, provided him with some sort of enjoyment (simply watching them), that is why i think we should be thankful - from them to the ones who have captured his heart, and...as strange as this sounds, even those who have ended up breaking it, because i am sure there were moments of joy even in those cases.

Now...about the out of control girls that's another issue and i can only imagine how Michael coped with the gargantuan degree of fame and adulation he had reached. It's hard enough for us common folk and at times we want to escape and get away from anyone and everything; multiply that by a gazillion and you probably can have a clearer picture of what he went through. Watching Stranger in Moscow which contains some of the most amazing lyrics ('here abandoned in my fame, Armageddon of the brain') and most haunting melody ever and the ocean of people in Will you be there only reinforces the paradox which was Michael's life - the most famous man on earth being so dreadfully alone, especially until his children were born.

Hard as i might try, I don't think i can really imagine what he went through; the man was a monument of strength and courage. The good Lord knew what He did when He made Michael, He knew what he would endure so he made him strong enough to withstand it all. Y'all know how wood comes in different essences, right? Well, he molded Michael from the strongest of them (from his father), but at the same time the gentlest (from his mother) and that is what made him so amazing.

What we certainly can agree on is that he was such a pure and beautiful soul who deserved nothing but sheer and continuous happiness and unfortunately he didn't always find it.



Linda, you have every right to be proud of your daughter. Congrats to her :clapping:

LOL @ Ash about them bilingual accidents.

:clapping::clapping:....Excellent Post!!!!
 
Well, I did not want to be involved in this kind of discussion anymore but I think I have to do it for the last time because my point of view is very different and I wish to explain myself better.
Michael expressed himself in many ways regarding women’s behavior which includes Billie Jean and Dirty Diana lyrics plus he clearly explained himself in his book Moonwalker and Rabbi Shmuley book making negative remarks about some women’s behavior.
I can believe that he might be thankful for flight attendants because they were doing their job only and their attitude did not go overboard.
Like I said before I was raised in different culture, more traditional and it is difficult for me to understand and accept many things I faced here regarding relationships between men and women. I have been taught that men have go after women , but not all way around. Yes, women still can give a sign that she is sort of interested but nothing more than that. Maybe it changes now, I do not know.
When I moved to North America I got sort of culture shock at this point when I found out that it is Ok if woman invites man for cup of coffee, on a date etc. It was beyond my understanding. I could not accept how it was possible for a young teen girl go after guys, be rejected after all and walk away with no problem.
I would not be able to respect myself if it once happened to me. I witnessed many examples like that living here. It was hard for me to understand this part of emancipation process. Now I used to it but I have never accepted it.

I am not saying that all women here chasing guys but I it is in the air and it considered to be normal. Maybe I am too old fashioned person? I do not know. I think that some women, stalkers, crazy fans created walls around Michael watching him 24/7 and a poor guy could not have a normal life. This is why tabloids found the way to make money from this kind of ppl’s attitude and made Michaels’ life much harder.
No matter what, Michael was still a man and those women saw him mostly like a man (creative and talented one) and were chasing him around the world because they wanted to get his attention, to get their chance to be close to him.

If they did not go crazy the situation would turn all way around and Michael could get his sweet chance to go after women himself which is VERY normal for men to do from even genetic point of view.
Besides, Michael was very traditional man and he used to like traditional things. I do not see him being fascinated with “the weirdest things we can imagine”. At least whatever he said about himself sounds like a very traditional way of thinking. If he liked watching flight attendants it just proves the fact that the man loved traditional things but not “weird”, all way around.

It is a well known fact that men are active side and women are passive side. Men are the Sun (active) and women are the Moon (passive). This is how God created us. Maybe we have to be thankful for women who did not bother him at all and gave him a tiny chance to be a man? Maybe I am going too deep talking about some difference between traditional and modern societies. I really did not want to go that far but I think a look from another side could be interesting for some.
Well, like I said everybody is different. It is my personal opinion about this situation.

Asedora, I am sure everybody appreciates the differing cultural interpretations and diversity is always welcome. Don't you ever feel you cannot and should not express your views especially through the prism of your upbringing and your experience. :flowers: Cultural heritage is very important and we all come with certain perceptions and traditions and the circumstances of life can take us in the most unlikely of places. The coming together of peoples, ideas and cultures with their own identity, but also united by the universality of certain values is what makes this world of ours so beautiful.

You also bring about a very interesting idea there about the women who didn't bother Michael and let him be a man - i think that's a very sweet thought and you are right, we ought to be thankful for them as well.

Susie, I am afraid that link you posted leads only to youtube.com/videos. I am sure my browers acting funky lately aren't the only ones to blame, but then again maybe they are.

thunder, if i may call you that :cheeky:, thanks for your appreciation.
 
Thank you guys!! And another very blessed thing happened to my Haitian friend Rose!! She got her 11 year old daughter into the United States to live!! Isnt that great?
 
Thank you guys!! And another very blessed thing happened to my Haitian friend Rose!! She got her 11 year old daughter into the United States to live!! Isnt that great?

That's wonderful Linda. The Haitian people need all the help they can get and family reunions are always amazing. God bless your friend Rose and her daughter and all the Haitian people who have gone and are STILL going through so much.
 
That's wonderful Linda. The Haitian people need all the help they can get and family reunions are always amazing. God bless your friend Rose and her daughter and all the Haitian people who have gone and are STILL going through so much.

Thank you. Yes, they are hurting. And it hurts to see the discrimination by patients when they are taking care of them in the hospital. I feel so bad for what they have to go through. I am going to have them over for dinner one of these days. Rose and her daughter that is. My home isn't big enough for more than 1 or 2 people more at a time!! LOL!
 
Thank you guys!! And another very blessed thing happened to my Haitian friend Rose!! She got her 11 year old daughter into the United States to live!! Isnt that great?


Thats wonderful news linda :)
 
Thank you. Yes, they are hurting. And it hurts to see the discrimination by patients when they are taking care of them in the hospital. I feel so bad for what they have to go through. I am going to have them over for dinner one of these days. Rose and her daughter that is. My home isn't big enough for more than 1 or 2 people more at a time!! LOL!

Oh my, i am sorry to hear about the discrimination taking place, you would expect people to be more understanding and kind...wonderful idea of you to have them over for dinner :) i bet they will appreciate it. A house doesn't necessarily make a home; even though you may have a small house, i'm sure it's a huge home :cheeky: God bless.
 
Thank you. Yes, they are hurting. And it hurts to see the discrimination by patients when they are taking care of them in the hospital. I feel so bad for what they have to go through. I am going to have them over for dinner one of these days. Rose and her daughter that is. My home isn't big enough for more than 1 or 2 people more at a time!! LOL!

I can not stand any kind of discrimination. I hate!!! :puke: :mat:

And.........

Hey, Linda I'm happy for her friend and her daughter. :yes: My thoughts and positive energies to them. I wish much luck and success for them in this new phase and that God is always beside them, care and protecting them. :angel:

And you prepare a wonderful dinner..... :wild: :cheers: they will love and will be very nice. :yes:



And for this thread today:



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Ha! Ha! I don't know if this has any significance to this thread or not, but last night I had a dream that I was dressed like I was in a 1930's gangster film or something, along with a couple of guys dressed the same way, and we were all singing and performing to the song, "The Boy From New York City." I didn't think it meant anything at first, but when I read the lyrics giving the description of "The Boy From New York City," I thought it was kinda eerie. Well, if you'd like to sing (and dance) along with me, here is the link ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6GdZ_cVGT8
 
YOU appeared..... :eek:

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Ha! Ha! I don't know if this has any significance to this thread or not, but last night I had a dream that I was dressed like I was in a 1930's gangster film or something, along with a couple of guys dressed the same way, and we were all singing and performing to the song, "The Boy From New York City." I didn't think it meant anything at first, but when I read the lyrics giving the description of "The Boy From New York City," I thought it was kinda eerie. Well, if you'd like to sing (and dance) along with me, here is the link ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6GdZ_cVGT8
This is interesting... I'll think about it. I need to analyze carefully. lol! :D

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About the discrimination? I see it. I see racial bias with some patients. Some patients are very rude to the Haitian aides, and never give me a problem when I go in. I am sorry, but these Haitian people are hard-working, good people!! Patients shouldn't discriminate based on color. I have seen it too much in my job to not say anything.
 
All I have to say about discrimination:

"STOP" the REGENERATION;

KNOWLEDGE & EDUCATION IS THE KEY~~~"

As Alawys

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About the discrimination? I see it. I see racial bias with some patients. Some patients are very rude to the Haitian aides, and never give me a problem when I go in. I am sorry, but these Haitian people are hard-working, good people!! Patients shouldn't discriminate based on color. I have seen it too much in my job to not say anything.

Linda, that's terrible. It's an awful state of affairs where people still judge others by the color of their skin instead of character. Goes to show we haven't evolved as much as we would like to think...You have every right and duty even, if i may say so, to call anybody out about any injustice you witness. God bless you.

Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere, those aren't just words pertaining to an amazing human being (and nope, for once, i ain't talking about Michael, but dr.King rather), they are a reality. If only we would learn......... Lord help us, cause we sure need His assistance in this wretched, yet beautiful world of ours which can still be heavenly.


Susie was mentioning earlier Michael's search for someone accepting him only for him. Isn't that what any man or woman looks for in this journey called life? Someone to depend on and to help at the same time, someone who will accept us in spite of flaws of character, physical imperfections and dark nights of the soul? Goes to show he was a just another human being, like the rest of us mere mortals. The search for unconditional love knows no boundaries, race, gender,era of history,fortune, degree of fame or lackthereof.

It's a terrible thing to be defined by possessions, exterior or by what we do, so as marvelous and as brilliant an artist Michael was (THE greatest ever), i would imagine he must have wanted to be appreciated for what made him the wonderful human being he truly was - a kind soul filled with love, often bruised and abused by others, but never giving up on the virtues and the truth of love.
 
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