Did MJ Find Love In The Dark (continued)

I think I've found the culprit ...







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Guilty as charged! lol! :)

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So funny how the picture fits the context! Its so adorable though:wub:
 
As I sit at my desk staring at my beautiful tulips :wub: :p I had this random thought.....

Do you ever wonder if MJ was a full out romantic? Not just in lyrics but like buying flowers, leaving random love notes/cards, taking quiet walks holding hands, etc..doing little simple and sometimes unexpected things for his true love?

Ofcourse he is..
 
It's Valentine's Day, all you "Love in the Dark" fans! ... or for people like me - Sunday! Ha! Ha! (I think):worried:

Well, have a good one!

Worried, why worried? MP Awww, come on now :)

Something funny: http://www.dayspring.com/ecards/subcat.asp?CategoryID=1&SubCategoryID=28&CardID=400827&Widescreen=False

Something sweet http://www.dayspring.com/ecards/subcat.asp?CategoryID=1&SubCategoryID=28&CardID=401690&Widescreen=True

And something which has been quoted up in here more than once put in some nice visuals http://www.dayspring.com/ecards/subcat.asp?CategoryID=1&SubCategoryID=28&CardID=401595&Widescreen=False

Enjoy the day people and above all live love, not just today, but every day.
 
well, this thread will soon have 600 pages and celebrate the anniversary, my proposel is to get a story-writer and a film director and to make a book out of it and then film it, it will be a great fantasy film :)
 
Worried, why worried? MP Awww, come on now :)


What? Me worry? Nah!:unsure: Thanks for those e-cards, Shabuya! They were so sweet!


well, this thread will soon have 600 pages and celebrate the anniversary, my proposel is to get a story-writer and a film director and to make a book out of it and then film it, it will be a great fantasy film :)

Ha! Ha! You don't know how many times I have thought this would make a stunning film. I sure hope that doesn't make me a bad person or anything. I guess I just like being creative. But, it's definitely something that would need to be prayerfully considered for a while before even attempting such a thing - romantic and exciting concept, though.:yes:
 
I hate valentines day...it was crap!

Well, do not worry. I got my red roses (last year I guess was the same kind of roses? Do not remember now…). So it is nice for 1 second though, but it feels like yearly routine for me... . So it was nothing exiting... . every year is the same…..:(
 
I hate valentines day...it was crap!

Well, it's all about the greenbacks! lol!

(Although, I did receive some chocolates this year!:punk:)




Nice sculpture, ash ...



Cupid and Psyche? I think MJ was trying to portray Cupid in the YANA video, 'cause if you notice, at the very end, he is peirced through with an arrow, and that is the same thing that happened to Cupid in the legend. Interesting story.

On another interesting side note ...

I have a picture of Cupid and Psyche as children hanging over my bed, and one day, I received a gift from a friend of the family who didn't even know about the picture in my room, and she said she had something for me that she had in her own home that she didn't want anymore, and she took out of her car something that looked like a huge, long picture in a frame, but it was facing her so I was unable to see what it was right away, and when she turned it around, it happened to be a picture of Cupid and Psyche as adults!:eek: I was shocked. The picture is huge and even the frame it's in is gorgeous. It looks like sandalwood or something. That is hanging on my wall on the side of my bed so when I wake up, depending on what side of the bed I'm on, it's the first thing I see. It's beautiful. If I can find a picture, I will post it.


O.k., this is the one I have of them as children ...






And this is the one that was given to me of them as adults ...




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Somethin' huh?
 
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I wonder how many love songs MJ may have worked on with Will.i.am? It sure would be nice to hear them.

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Can't wait to hear his album! A happy MJ creates an upbeat album! :wild:
 
Hi Everybody!

I hadn't read any pages to get me caught up to speed in here but I wanted to come in and share this very brief dream with you!!!!!!!!!!!

Saturday night, it was all to much for me. I had the autopsy( i'm sorry to mention this in here), on my mind. I had read several pages of it last week and was deeply depressed about it. I cried like most of you but i didn't want to worry my family. I knew Valentine's was the next day and we had plans and everybody was so excited so I cried and prayed in private.

I asked Michael to give me a sign, that he was NOT in pain. That latenight came this brief dream:

I saw the inside of a small house, the colors inside were light blue and white. The furniture and walls were all clean and in tact unlike the other house I dreamed about. Remember?

I saw someone laying in a bed with their back to me, I could see their hair only and the frame of their body wrapped in the light blue and white blanket. I immediately could tell, this person asleep was known to "her" and perhaps her mother.

Then I saw Michael! He was smiling from ear to ear. He was on the left wall standing in between 2 people as they stood dancing and clapping their hands. All three was looking away in the direction of their left. They appeared to be watching someone dance who was out of my view, as the dreamer I remember having a thought how this reminded me of the Soul Train( a very popular dance and music show from the 70's) line.

Michael was so happy, he beamed. He was dressed in all black from head to toe, no glasses. His hair was cut short and a little curly at the end. His shirt was a button down and his pants were fitted black jeans. The EXACT outfit he wears when he visits that "Mime" he loves so much. Remember that picture of MJ and that Mime? He was dressed the same way, same hair, same smile and everything! It seemed like MJ just walked out of the picture from that era and time and into my dream.

Michael was the only one in Black. The person to his left and the person to his right, were in light colors. I could not see their faces or make out if they were male or female. Their mood was upbeat and happy. I could not hear any music at all but I could tell Michael and these 2 people could. They were on beat and moving in unison with Michael.

Then I saw her. She came in the room. She was smiling and blushing cause Michael was there. I could feel her butterflies( in her stomach), she had something underneath her arms. At first I thought it was a baby, but I was wrong. It was a blanket. She was barefoot and dressed in a white NightGown with spaghetti strings. It was not sexy or too revealing, it seemed comfty and roomy.

Next thing I see, Michael appears in front of her. He is looking down at her smiling. He immediately puts both of his hands up in the air, revealing his palm(s). You know how people in political office are about to be sworn in and they have to raise their hand and put the other on the bible? Thats how both of his hands were raised in front of her.

He wanted her to place her hands inside of his own. And she did. I didn't see her put down the blanket, I just know it was no longer in her arms as she placed her right hand into the palm of Michael's left hand and her left hand into the palm of Michael's right hand.

They stood there dancing and gazing at eachother. Their feet never left the floor or moved. Only their upper body was moving, along with Michael's hands with hers inside of his slowly and gently making movements as if they were dancing to a beat. They were in unison as they stood close to the wall by the door which was colored Brown( made of wood).

I could feel her wanting him. I felt his happiness. They were both in Bliss. Michael had no worries.

I started coughing in my sleep, then I woke up. The dream was over, just that quick.

I thought I would never have another dream again. Wow.

Thank You Michael for telling us, you are ok and not in pain.

Edit: I added the color of the door from the dream, I had forgotten that originally. other than Michael's clothes, its the only other thing in the dream that wasn't blue/white.
I also remembered that I didn't post how she and Michael slowly and gently danced
in unison after she placed her hands in each of his palm.
 
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Nice sculpture, ash ...



Cupid and Psyche? I think MJ was trying to portray Cupid in the YANA video, 'cause if you notice, at the very end, he is peirced through with an arrow, and that is the same thing that happened to Cupid in the legend. Interesting story.

On another interesting side note ...

I have a picture of Cupid and Psyche as children hanging over my bed, and one day, I received a gift from a friend of the family who didn't even know about the picture in my room, and she said she had something for me that she had in her own home that she didn't want anymore, and she took out of her car something that looked like a huge, long picture in a frame, but it was facing her so I was unable to see what it was right away, and when she turned it around, it happened to be a picture of Cupid and Psyche as adults!:eek: I was shocked. The picture is huge and even the frame it's in is gorgeous. It looks like sandalwood or something. That is hanging on my wall on the side of my bed so when I wake up, depending on what side of the bed I'm on, it's the first thing I see. It's beautiful. If I can find a picture, I will post it.


O.k., this is the one I have of them as children ...






And this is the one that was given to me of them as adults ...




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Somethin' huh?

Yes, it is the sculpture Cupid and Psyche in the picture I posted of the Louvre museum. It is very beautiful. :yes:

Michael Cupid in YANA... never stopped to think about it. Or maybe an angel...



A little off topic...



The Story of Cupid and Psyche

Psyche (psych•ee), whose name means “soul,” was the mortal bride of Cupid, the Roman God of love. She was granted divinity after attempting Goddess-like feats of devotion to reclaim her beloved after a nasty misunderstanding.

She was a beautiful maiden who, without trying, got a lot of male attention. Angered that attention was being taken away from her, Goddess Venus, in a demonstration of the darker side of her nature, sent her son Cupid, the love archer, to inflame Psyche with passion for an ugly, horrible man.

When Cupid arrived he was “accidentally” hit by his own arrow. Inflamed by her beauty, he took her as his bride. They were deeply in love, but Psyche only saw her mate in the darkness, when he would come to her bed and ravish her. Cupid made her promise never to look or question whom he was (he knew if she set her mortal eyes upon him their relationship would have to end).

She was content to have his love in the darkness but her sisters, hearing that she’d never seen her husband’s true face, meddled. Suggesting he could be an ugly monster for all she knew, they talked her into peeking. One night, Psyche held a candle near his sleeping figure, and found a beautiful boy beneath her gaze – but she was a little shocked to see his wings. When a bit of wax fell from her candle, it caused him to wake.
Mortified by her betrayal, he fled, also making their castle and gardens vanish. Psyche found herself alone in an open field, with no signs of other beings or her beloved. She tearfully wandered in search of him until she came upon a temple of Venus. The Goddess gave her daughter-in-law a series of impossible tasks – each harder and more dangerous than the next – and informed her they were the only way to get Cupid back.
Psyche took on each one with courage, hoping to soon see her lover, but in the end it was he who rescued her.

Psyche literally went to hell and back to be reunited with her beloved Cupid. The final task was to take a little box to the underworld and collect some of the beauty of Persephone, wife of Hades, in the box. She was warned not to open the box once she had filled it. Temptation got the best of her, and she opened it, only to be besieged by deadly slumber. She was out cold when Cupid came upon her. He gathered from her the essence of deadly sleep and put it back safely in the box. He forgave her indiscretions, touched by her willingness to go into the darkness to save their relationship. She forgave him for leaving her and came alive again in his loving embrace. Even her mother-in-law, Venus, got over her jealousies.

The gods were so moved by her devotion, they made her an immortal. Cupid and Psyche went to live with the other Gods and had a daughter, Voluptas (Pleasure).

Another moral to this story is the idea that love will find you. Even if it has not found you yet, even if you feel you are in the darkness, it may be on the way. Don’t give up.

http://www.wedlok.com/lasvegaswedding/sacred_relationships/cupid_and_his_soul_mate_psyche-110431.html

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P.S. I love your siggy! :yes:
 
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wow thank you for sharing this Ashtanga. so moving. It's beautiful and sad and happy too.

I'm sorry, I was so moved by the Cupid and Psyche story that I forgot to mention Moddie's dream which was sweet as well. I don't know it's full meaning, but it had a peace and gentleness about it.

oh wow, I was just looking up images of Cupid and Psyche and came across this
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John William Waterhouse, “Psyche Opening the Door into Cupid’s Garden,” 1904.


I love Waterhouse and I had this as a signature years ago at another forum. I didn't know the name of it though. Pretty cool. I also had this one as a siggy for a while (another forum)
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I wasn't aware they were related.
 
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Wow Ape, that Cupid's Garden image is beautiful. I love the colors, so subtle and romantic. Thanks for posting it. :)


I wonder how many love songs MJ may have worked on with Will.i.am? It sure would be nice to hear them.

:wub:

Can't wait to hear his album! A happy MJ creates an upbeat album! :wild:

I'm looking forward to hearing new music as well and seeing what kind of inspiration MJ has brought to life through his lyrical storytelling. :)
 
Today feels more like Valentine's day than yesterday did :)

(a bit of a detour from our topic here, but wanted you all to see this. There's been some developments with the movie and wanted to share. To let you all know it should be available to everyone after September 2010 but to anyone who is not struggling financially, and is interested in doing a part that could help out both you and the movie, there is this page https://www.indiegogo.com/project/pledge/2940
Tumaini is in postproduction (we shot the film in high definition digital video) currently and we're looking for some capital to finish this movie right! We're using the funds raised here for 3 specific tasks. $12000 will go to color correction and a proper Dolby sound mix at state of the art post production facilities. We have also earmarked $3000 for the production of DVD's and submission to festivals in Canada, the United States and around the world.
There will be more information in the thread I made about the movie. Thanks to anyone who takes interest no matter the amount of interest. Here is a video of the making of a song for the soundtrack. http://www.facebook.com/pages/courtesy-productions/84141714677?v=wall&viewas=510594292#!/video/video.php?v=10150090114670265&ref=mf I hope you'll all check it out!)

The Thread with a special email from the movie's producer; Jeff Woodward : http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78981&page=2
 
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What is "greenbacks"?

Oh, I just meant money.


Nice to see you again, Moddie. I was just thinking about you and your dreams before I came on here. I think I'll need a little time to think about it. Where is queen g? She is our dream analyzer. I've been wondering how she's been and about SoS and Ape (Welcome Back, Ape BTW!).

Ape, thanks so much for the pictures and all the info on your movie. I'll have to come back and read some more about it. Best of luck with everything!
 
Michael was so happy, he beamed. He was dressed in all black from head to toe, no glasses. His hair was cut short and a little curly at the end. His shirt was a button down and his pants were fitted black jeans. The EXACT outfit he wears when he visits that "Mime" he loves so much. Remember that picture of MJ and that Mime? He was dressed the same way, same hair, same smile and everything! It seemed like MJ just walked out of the picture from that era and time and into my dream.

Ah, yes, that would be Marcel Marceau ...



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OH mY gOD MP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is theeeeee exact Michael from my dreams..............at aleast the facial expression(pure happiness) and button down black shirt and short hair!!!!!!! OMG! Thanks for posting this.

I could not think of the mime's name to save my life!

The smile from that picture is the smile he had in my dreams (which was the wheeeee hours of early Valentine's Day "Morning).

Wow.

Thank You Michael!!!!!!!!!
 
A quick interpretation:

Remember how the dream is set up? Michael is standing very closely by a wall dressed in all black,smiling happlily in the middle of one person on eachside. All three are smiling, clapping their hands, dancing in unison and looking towards their left( at an unseen person perhaps?).

This reveals, Michael's thoughts on his children. The 3 symbols symbolize Paris, Prince and Blanket, even though blanket doesn't "appear" as the other two. He appears craddled in her arms almost like a baby in the object of a real "Blanket", remember that part of the dream.

Michael is showing us the 4 people who are on his heart the most here lately. He wants us to see the joy he had and still have for his 3 precious children. He is also revealing how much he thought or is thinking about Blanket and where he feels blanket should be? With her and in her arms. Remember how she was holding the blanket as if it was a baby?

Notice how Michael and the two he is inbetween are in unison. As they watch the unseen one towards their left almost as if to be watching someone come down the Soul train line?

This reveals how close he was to his kids, in particluar the 2 oldest. Paris and Prince. They are on the same page as Michael's spirit as they were with him in life. He revealed alot to these children in his lifetime. What they say will be what he wanted them to say......

This dream also reveals, how Michael comforts her while he is in the after life and she is still here. They remain to comminucate and be on the same page as well. Michael has informed her of what he has asked of her to do, he is leading what direction she now travels. This is revealed when he appears in front of her and takes the lead by placing up both hands up on opposite sides in the air. She conforms. She will abide. This is revealed when she places each of her hand inside of his. They are still on the same page and very much in love, this is revealed as they then after she places her hands in his; began to slowly and gently dance in unison WITHOUT moving their feet. Their feet remain firmly on the ground as they move together to a beat only heard by the two of them.

Be back in a little while.....
 
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A quick interpretation:

Remember how the dream is set up? Michael is standing very closely by a wall dressed in all black,smiling happlily in the middle of one person on eachside. All three are smiling, clapping their hands, dancing in unison and looking towards their left( at an unseen person perhaps?).

This reveals, Michael's thoughts on his children. The 3 symbols symbolize Paris, Prince and Blanket, even though blanket doesn't "appear" as the other two. He appears craddled in her arms almost like a baby in the object of a real "Blanket", remember that part of the dream.

Michael is showing us the 4 people who are on his heart the most here lately. He wants us to see the joy he had and still have for his 3 precious children. He is also revealing how much he thought or is thinking about Blanket and where he feels blanket should be? With her and in her arms. Remember how she was holding the blanket as if it was a baby?

Notice how Michael and the two he is inbetween are in unison. As they watch the unseen one towards their left almost as if to be watching someone come down the Soul train line?

This reveals how close he was to his kids, in particluar the 2 oldest. Paris and Prince. They are on the same page as Michael's spirit as they were with him in life. He revealed alot to these children in his lifetime. What they say will be what he wanted them to say......

This dream also reveals, how Michael is comforts her while he is in the after life and she is still here. They remain to comminucate and be on the same page as well. Michael has informed her of what he has asked of her to do, he is leading what direction she now travels. This is revealed when he appears in front of her and takes the lead by placing up both hands up on opposite sides in the air. She conforms. She will abide. This is revealed when she places each of her hand inside of his. They are still on the same page and very much in love, this is revealed as they then after she places her hands in his; began to slowly and gently dance in unison WITHOUT moving their feet. Their feet remain firnly on the ground as they move together to a beat only heard by the two of them.

Be back in a little while.....
So sweeeeeeet...

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ok, back for a few more minutes. Had to clean the Kitchen.

What clue does Marcel Marceau's presense reveal?

Alot actually....

What does he do? He is a Mime. And what is a Mime? I googled it and here's what I found:

"Mime is the silent art of Acting out a scene or expressing feelings with gestures and facial expression".
#1, Michael is revealing by the mime link in the dream that he and his lady love have communicated over time without spoken words between them. We already figured this out, didn't we? Hence the special double mesasges he use to send out.

#2 Michael is revealing to us, her Actions will be/have been with less words and more "Expressive Feelings with Gestures". This is a woman who puts her WORDS into ACTIONS!

What does the colors white and blue in the dream represent?

What do we typically see as white/blue?........The Sea or the Sky, right? Our Michel is telling us, he is beyond the clouds(white) and is happily in Heaven( blue "sky").

Why is he wearing black from head to toe in dream?
I believe Michael is wearing black in dream because he recognizes people all over the world expecially those in his private life are truly "still" mourning for him and remain sad. She obviously feel great sadness at the loss even though, the dream also reveals he comes to her and gives her comfort throughout this process...

When was the pic of MJ and Marcel Marceau taken and where are they? The more we know about the picture, the more clues we may find.
 
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Something elese I just remembered?, Actually two things just came to mind, lol

In the most recent song from MJ, what was he singing about?

He was singing hold my hand, remember?

Now what did she do with her hands in the dream?

Wow............


The second thing I remembered are the letters in the Mime's name from another dream!? Remember that dream I had with Michael dressed in the complete Smooth Criminal outfit and she was in a dress from that Era( 40's or 50's). Remember how in that dream Michael was over seeing the production of a polar bear with ice being brought in a neighborhood?

In the dream there were a few men and one of them presented a buisness card and as the dreamer, I could make out a few letters only. Did I , or didn't I post about seeing the letters:
e a u together? There was other letters too but I can't remember?

I dunno, the latter could be nothing at all but I thought I'd mention it anyway.
 
When was the pic of MJ and Marcel Marceau taken and where are they? The more we know about the picture, the more clues we may find.
Maybe the videos will help:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8SaYrs7KRI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvTRE8NBoMA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06jjuWgDaLU

Marcel Marceau and Michael Jackson at the MTV Video Music Awards in New York, 1995. Jackson's moonwalk was part-inspired by Marceau's repertoire.

Pictures: http://www.mjj-online.net/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=266
 
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