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Did MJ Find Love In The Dark (continued)

This is the first time I've seen a dream analysis including use of the internet, ver interesting and makes me wonder how interpretations of today's technology is interpreted by people who usually interpret dreams. I used to have a little book with symbols used to interpret dreams a long time ago.

Just wanted to say I really enjoyed this, as well as many other posts some that make me laugh, some that are just beautiful :) Fireflies & glow in the dark discussion :lol:

queen g said:
*Waves at AllforMJ!* :D I saw your posts a ways back. Good ones.

MP! Thanks for hearing that one line so well! I agree, that IS what he's saying there: And I tell you, please, let it play. I could not pick up on that "please" but there it was all along. :clapping: And this is cute...you have them singing the song together: Feel my song, we can sing it. But um, wait... what if she can't carry a tune? Instant trouble in Paradise? Maybe you should consider this possibility Ash... if they had gotten together this would have been revealed, and well, things could have ended up on shaky ground pretty fast. It was perhaps a very good thing they kept...their...distance.

SoS, your one giggly too many towards becoming dead meat. And...



This brings me to my original interpretation, that I never got around to sharing, of a dream of Moddie's which she posted some weeks back. Now might be the better timing to post it. If you remember, I had said that somethings that Trish and Justus had posted made me feel that perhaps I was seeing things correctly regarding this dream. Trish in a thread had reassured us members that MJ was very computer aware and had definitely visited MJJC. Justus told us that MJ read our thread here and had a fondness for it. So this made me think that it could be possible that MJ did talk with his LITD friend somewhere on the internet.

Here's that dream, with my interpretations in red.


And there ya are. Sorry it took me so long to post my thoughts on that dream but maybe timing was important. Maybe MJ and his lady friend had some real good times together playing online and it made him smile. It probably made her real happy as well.
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Every time I see something about Michael talking to fans online
Or like now this talk of him having his LITD women online I always think of this..........



WARNING!

Michael Jackson and his children do NOT ever communicate via computer. If you are communicating with someone on the internet that claims to be Michael Jackson or one of his children, you are being deceived.

When in doubt, please ask sitemanager@mjjsource.com.

Unfortunately, this is an issue that arises quite often. MJJsource URGES YOU TO BE CAREFUL AND AWARE. There are certain individuals that use the anonymity afforded them by the internet to disguise themselves as Michael Jackson and abuse the trust of innocent fans. This is an issue that Michael's Team takes very seriously as the safety of unsuspecting fans is at risk.

If you are aware of anyone that is taking part in this type of malicious deception, please email legal@mjjsource.com.

Please do not give out your personal phone numbers or address to anyone online that you do not know and trust personally.

Michael Jackson & MJJsource care about you and your safety!

Please Note:
If you or someone you know is impersonating Michael Jackson or one of his children on the internet via email, instant messaging, chatroom, etc,. please be aware that this is a crime that MJJsource and the authorities take very seriously. Mr. Jackson's legal team will investigate all identity theft matters and the offending individual(s) will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

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Yes he did visit here, as Trish has said.
But is that very unusal for an artist to visit their own fan sites?
I don't think so. I know I would wanna have a sneaky look at mine if it were me and see what was written. :lol:

Trish was owner of the board and did have contact with Michael,
What connection did Justus have to know he liked this thread? :unsure:
Was it from Michael? Most likely not. Or from someone they thought was Michael? Quite possibly. :wink:

But I honestly think, They wouldn't go as far as sending that message out.
Also.. Michael must have told them himself to put that message out there for the safety of his fans. Why would he do that if he communicated online with fans or anyone else for that matter.. I think he did with very few but with people like Trish and Paul from ( MJNO ) but they were running his biggest forums...... so?

Little rant over. :sigh:

 
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Lorraine said:
Every time I see something about Michael talking to fans online
Or like now this talk of him having his LITD women online I always think of this..........



WARNING!

Michael Jackson and his children do NOT ever communicate via computer. If you are communicating with someone on the internet that claims to be Michael Jackson or one of his children, you are being deceived.

When in doubt, please ask sitemanager@mjjsource.com.

Unfortunately, this is an issue that arises quite often. MJJsource URGES YOU TO BE CAREFUL AND AWARE. There are certain individuals that use the anonymity afforded them by the internet to disguise themselves as Michael Jackson and abuse the trust of innocent fans. This is an issue that Michael's Team takes very seriously as the safety of unsuspecting fans is at risk.

If you are aware of anyone that is taking part in this type of malicious deception, please email legal@mjjsource.com.

Please do not give out your personal phone numbers or address to anyone online that you do not know and trust personally.

Michael Jackson & MJJsource care about you and your safety!

Please Note:
If you or someone you know is impersonating Michael Jackson or one of his children on the internet via email, instant messaging, chatroom, etc,. please be aware that this is a crime that MJJsource and the authorities take very seriously. Mr. Jackson's legal team will investigate all identity theft matters and the offending individual(s) will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

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Yes he did visit here, as Trish has said.
But is that very unusal for an artist to visit their own fan sites?
I don't think so. I know I would wanna have a sneaky look at mine if it were me and see what was written. :lol:

Trish was owner of the board and did have contact with Michael,
What connection did Justus have to know he liked this thread? :unsure:
Was it from Michael? Most likely not. Or from someone they thought was Michael? Quite possibly. :wink:

But I honestly think, They wouldn't go as far as sending that message out Also.. Michael must have told them himself to put that message out there for the safety of his fans. Why would he do that if he communicated online with fans or anyone else for that matter.. I think he did with very few but with people like Trish and Paul from ( MJNO ) but they were running his biggest fan clubs... so?

Little rant over. :sigh:

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With no disrespect intended...I don't hold much merit to a few people that were a part of running/corresponding on MJJ Source...so for me...what they had to say/said then and still today is a moot point...and on that note...I will just leave it at that.

However,
A large percent of us utilize the internet...Like so many business entities including but not limited to the music industry, communicate through the internet...whether this correspondance is in an email, on facebook, twitter, myspace, faxes, snail mail, via telephone, and/or fan clubs.

With Keeping That In Mind:
Always remember...it takes all kinds to make the world go round...

It is "important" for each and everyone of us...to be wise enough to decifer what is of reality...and what is not...ALWAYS maintain safty whenever corresponding...one never really knows who is actually on the other side.

:angel:Heal The World...WE Are The World...Education IS The Key~~~
 
MysteriousPhoenix said:
*That's funny Popescu! I always thought MJ's songs were about Miss Ross!

Anyway, I just wanted to say: ash and tha, I liked your posts. You brought up many valid points. I think it would be difficult to have just a "spiritual" relationship with a person, from a distance, forever, since humans are comprised of a soul and a body and the flesh needs the flesh, as you have stated. And yes, one or even both of them, may have been tempted to find someone else to fulfill their needs or ... even give up on their "unique" relationship altogether. However, I feel that even when two people can't be together "physically," that doesn't stop the love that they have for each other.

And, while I feel that it's God's intention to bring two people together "physically," the process can sometimes be slowed down by various things. The people involved could be trying to get ahead of God in their impatience, which would slow things down. They could be making mistakes. That would definitely slow down the process because then God would have to spend time helping them undo their mistakes. It could also be a long process simply because God has to take time to do some things in one or, more than likely, both of the people, or their situation. And sometimes things just take the time they take. For instance, when a couple is going to have a baby, it will take them 9 months to realize this dream. They could do everything perfectly, but it will still take them 9 months, simply because that is how long it takes.

Something else that people don't realize is that when dealing with the spirit world, there is goodness and light, but there is also darkness and evil. And, as we all know, Michael was/is a very special person, otherwise we probably wouldn't even be spending time writing about him on this board. I don't think people realize how much opposition Michael has really had to endure because of that darkness. We have seen him lose almost everything because of it, if it had not been for the grace of God. If it has been this way in his life with everything else, I think it wouldn't be too difficult to believe that he would experience the same opposition when it came to his "someone in the dark" (if she exists). I don't think the same forces who were against him in other areas of his life would exactly be willing to roll out the red carpet for him and "her."

Everything came hard for Michael and I don't think love was any exception. "Love is a battlefield" could have been his motto. However, just because of the battles, it doesn't mean the love story is necessarily over. Perhaps God had to do something very unique to finally bring them together. Perhaps it has to happen in the next life, or perhaps the faith they have in each other and their love could bring about an incredible miracle. We really don't know how it will play out in the end. But, as I had stated before, God's delay is not necessarily denial. It may have taken a long time, perhaps a very long time, but they may have somehow found a way, with God's help, to overcome all of their battles. Maybe that is what he meant when he sang, "This Is It"! And, aren't things sweeter when you've had to wait for them a long time?:yes:
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How did you learn to think that deep? It must be something special about you. It was the most amazing post a have ever read here .It is very true that God has his own way to deal with any kind of issues. The only one thing I can say that you are a very spiritual person which is very rare. Thank you.
 
Sdeidjs said:
With no disrespect intended...
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With no disrespect either. Aren't you one fan that claimed to have an online friendship with Michael? Or phone conversations? or both?
So you won't believe what MJJsource had to say, because you believed it was actually him you were talking with or friends with. As did many fans.
When most likely, even though you will think not, It was more likely to be an impersonator than Michael.

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Anyways... this thread is going too off topic.. sorry.

Carry on.........
 
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Lorraine i have to say i never believed that he does not use the internet. but i think its great that they post it on mjno. i m sure it was to prevent his fans from bad experience. we had many impersonators in there. who knows who talked with him for real.
i have talked with soo many ladies in here who said they talked and interacted with him online.almost the same versions and they posted all sorts of stories. i told you that before.must say out loud i dont want to hear it no more. if there is a real lady outthere with these reports michaels love life was impossible.if i would believe in all those reports i would think michael had with anyone in this world a friendship..even in this nice" did mj find love in the dark "section they told their stories about michael.
must say lorraine good that you remembered us about it. cause many still think they spoke with michael. hugggs lorraine
 
Asedora said:
How did you learn to think that deep? It must be something special about you. It was the most amazing post a have ever read here .It is very true that God has his own way to deal with any kind of issues. The only one thing I can say that you are a very spiritual person which is very rare. Thank you.
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:yes:
 
Sdeidjs said:
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I wholeheartedly agree...not just with woman but all across the board..!

Most not all see $$$ signs...that in it self would have a great impact on how one would be able to ever trust another.

If we truly THINK about it...one in Mr.Jackson's shoes would ask themselves...Does this person truly love me for me or are they just saying this because I am rich and famous..?

:angel:Heal The World...WE Are The World...Education IS The Key~~~
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It makes me sad that mike most likely thought that to himself everyday of his life :( The constant questioning of not just woman, but all ppl that came into his life must have put him under alot of stress- and that was stress that michael wished would leave him alone.
 
Lorraine said:
With no disrespect either. Aren't you one fan that claimed to have an online friendship with Michael? Or phone conversations? or both?
So you won't believe what MJJsource had to say, because you believed it was actually him you were talking with or friends with. As did many fans.
When most likely, even though you will think not, It was more likely to be an impersonator than Michael.

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Anyways... this thread is going too off topic.. sorry.

Carry on.........
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Again, with no disrespect intended
When we are young, very nieve and blinded by immaturity and our ignorance...we as individuals doubt our abilities, determination, perseverence, knowledge, and experiences that life tends to throw at us from time to time...

However, as we become older, wiser, more knowledgable, more experienced, and mature into to the person that we are destined to become...we begin to look out side the box and open our eyes to the truth about all of our trials, tribulations, doubts and flustrations that we have experienced thoughout our past and present journey in life...

There IS a big difference what is considered to be a fan and what is considered to be a great admirer. No matter how we look at it...slice it or dice it...The FACT (S) remain NO ONE can ever change the past...

Therefore,
Self taught...I have been corresponding with people from across the globe via snail mail, telephone, faxes, the internet/online services, since her birth...before windows, email, IM, aol, msn, twittter, my space, cell phones, cable, and even before the home computer was ever a household name.

Decades Old...Original copywritten documents will not and can not lie..!

To honor the integrity, values, virtues, and morels of Mr.Jackson and his family...As a prearranged promise...Any and all proceeds from such documents shall be donated to charity - All The Children Of The World Charities and The Dailey Jackson Foundation for the Elderly.

Karma and God tends to have a funny sense of humor from time to time...There is an ancient saying PEOPLE that are self absorbed, self promoting, desire their 15 minutes of fame, claim false induendos, and USE people for their personal gain MONEY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juvn7gykiPo are individuals that continue to be blinded by their own light....

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Our Children Are The Future...Heal The World...WE Are The World...Education IS The Key~~~
 
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Since I'm not in the mood tonight for this dark energy shift and because it is changing the imaginative innocence and fun of the thread at this moment. I'm just going to say one thing and then leave.....

I think the internet is loaded with imposters, stalkers, phonies, self-serving people, etc...and to be quite honest imo evil people that behave like that towards others have some other very serious underlying issues. As for who knows what connection anyone has to anything, what was viewed or said by whom or even whether or not there is validity in what is said here or if MJFLITD online or otherwise? It doesn't matter. This thread is about interpretations and hope, dreaming, love, imagination, believing things in life are possible.....we uplift each other, share thoughts and stories, disagree and agree, it about having fun. People can take from here what they wish, nobody's word is bond and only two people are the all-knowing of the answer to the question asked in this thread, Michael and God. THAT'S all that matters imo.
 
Lily said:
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I think the internet is loaded with imposters, stalkers, phonies, self-serving people, etc...and to be quite honest imo evil people that behave like that towards others have some other very serious underlying issues.
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I agree.
 
ummmmm...

*feels a bit strange to be here right now...*

I'm not getting terribly terrific vibes from here at the moment. Positivity would be nice.

I will say, that yes, exercising caution IS a must, especially on the internet. Just be careful. You guys, I care so much about you, you really have no idea. "Careful what you do, cause the lie becomes the truth". Well, it can go the other way, as well. "Careful or you die, cause the truth becomes a lie". Well, anyway. Shall we get back to LOVE? Because love is so important. Now, more than ever before.

Love, is more than I can give, to you,
Love, is more than just a game for two.
Two in love can make it,
Take my heart but please don't break it,
Love was made for me and you!
 
Asedora said:
How did you learn to think that deep? It must be something special about you. It was the most amazing post a have ever read here .It is very true that God has his own way to deal with any kind of issues. The only one thing I can say that you are a very spiritual person which is very rare. Thank you.
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Aww, thank you so much Asedora! What you wrote really touched my heart!:wub: I believe God can speak through anybody whenever He wants, and I'm honored when He chooses to do it even through little ol' me!

In case I forgot ... Welcome to the Discussion!:flowers:



On a side Note:

As far as MJ having used the internet, I think anything is possible. He may have started out not wanting to interact via internet, but people do change and maybe he decided to break his own rule one day for whatever reason. He has even called people on the phone and surprised them. However, it is true that we must still use wisdom always and realize that there still are many people out there who prey upon innocent people, no doubt, and that's why these general guidelines are good since they are for our own protection. It's also always good to listen to your intuition.:yes:
 
MysteriousPhoenix said:
On a side Note:

As far as MJ having used the internet, I think anything is possible. He may have started out not wanting to interact via internet, but people do change and maybe he decided to break his own rule one day for whatever reason. He has even called people on the phone and surprised them. However, it is true that we must still use wisdom always and realize that there still are many people out there who prey upon innocent people, no doubt, and that's why these general guidelines are good since they are for our own protection. It's also always good to listen to your intuition.:yes:
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I think everything is possible when we talk about Michael Jackson! Of course that we shouldn't see hair in eggs....
I think michael should enjoy this virtual life, after all, he can be whoever he wants, let the fame aside to be treated just like a normal person, since most of the time, the people saw him like an untouchable man! ;)
Michael could be any one of us .... he could be "me"! :)
 
ashtanga said:
:clapping:

Justus, it was you who wrote these verses? You're a great poet! :wild: It was romantic... :wub: I love poetry and thanks for sharing! :D
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Ash Justus was quoting that wonderful song by Nat King Cole

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JErVP6xLZwg

he threw one of the lyrics off tho :giggle:

Love, is more than I can give, to you :huh: :brow:

:bugeyed

:lol:

funny how one lyric can change the entire meaning of a song

j/k it was a very sweet timely thing to post

:wub: all about L.O.V.E.

The visuals from the video are well worth the energy it takes to *click* :yes:

adorable :wub: and beautiful art work
 
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STATEofSHOCK said:
Ash Justus was quoting that wonderful song by Nat King Cole

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JErVP6xLZwg

he threw one of the lyrics off tho :giggle:

Love, is more than I can give, to you :huh: :brow:

:bugeyed

:lol:

funny how one lyric can change the entire meaning of a song

j/k it was a very sweet timely thing to post

:wub: all about l.o.v.e.

The visuals from the video are well worth the energy it takes to *click* :yes:

adorable :wub:
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Thanks for the beautiful video! I do not remember and neither thought it was verses of a song by Nat King Cole. This song is beautiful and blends perfectly with this discussion... :wub:


Again I want to share another sonnet Vinicius de Moraes.


For the dearest Michael...


Sonnet of Love Like A River

The infinite love of a year makes
What is greater than the time and everything
This love is real, and that, however
I no longer believed there was more.

This love discovered unsuspected
And that in the drama was made in peace
This love is the tomb where lies
My body is forever buried.

This is my love like a river, a river
Night, endless and late
A slip by the soft desert...

And that in its course brings me to outer
Illuminated in the darkness of passion
For the endless space of a sea without end.

Vinicius de Moraes

:wub::wub::wub:
 
ashtanga said:
Again I want to share another sonnet Vinicius de Moraes.


For the dearest Michael...


Sonnet of Love Like A River

The infinite love of a year makes
What is greater than the time and everything
This love is real, and that, however
I no longer believed there was more.

This love discovered unsuspected
And that in the drama was made in peace
This love is the tomb where lies
My body is forever buried.

This is my love like a river, a river
Night, endless and late
A slip by the soft desert...

And that in its course brings me to outer
Illuminated in the darkness of passion
For the endless space of a sea without end.

Vinicius de Moraes

:wub::wub::wub:
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:clapping:

Vinícius de Moraes is a genius! :)


MysteriousPhoenix said:
L-O-V-E

L is for the way you look at me
O is for the only one I see
V is very, very extraordinary
E is even more than anyone that you can adore

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:wild: :wild:

Very Interisting! :rolleyes2:
 
WOW! :wild: Incredible posts found here, thank you to everyone who shared their thoughts!!

Queen, very interesting your interpretation of the dream of Moddie777 I confess that I was thrilled!

SOS, thanks for sharing with us Shakespeare, as well as Ash with Vinicius de Moraes

tha said:
I think everything is possible when we talk about Michael Jackson! Of course that we shouldn't see hair in eggs....
I think michael should enjoy this virtual life, after all, he can be whoever he wants, let the fame aside to be treated just like a normal person, since most of the time, the people saw him like an untouchable man! ;)
Michael could be any one of us .... he could be "me"! :)
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Tha once again I agree with you, I think that in the communication by internet, Michael can be himself (I say as a person and not as the artist), because those who are on the other side will not know who he is, don't will elevate it to a superior level, and he will treated as an equal... which makes me believe that this is what makes Michael feel comfortable, be treated as a common person and not as an unattainable or higher (as it requires much) and creates a barrier that prevents he from being who he is, for fear of causing some disappointment in the person who sees it as a superior being

PS: Okay I hope it's readable, because Brazilian writing in English + sleep = error for sure! lol:laugh:

Tha I did not know you were the MJ! :wild: lol :lmao:


Originally Posted by MysteriousPhoenix
L-O-V-E

L is for the way you look at me
O is for the only one I see
V is very, very extraordinary
E is even more than anyone that you can adore
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hum...

Very interesting!!
And beautiful :wub:
 
In reading back through, I just wanted to point out, this is a very good example of what I'd been trying to say earlier when I mentioned that it may have had something to do with "her" way - meaning her way of responding to things of this nature. Thanks for sharing this sweet story. This is exactly what I was talking about.

Actually that just reminded something that happened to me...that kind of relates to that. When I was a student, there was this one guy who was kind of cute and very nice. His friend was in a couple of the same classes as I was and we'd sometimes say hi and talk briefly. So that's how I got to know that other guy, because he'd sometimes be with that friend of his, when I'd say hi. So then we started saying hi if we saw each other because we recognized each other. And then sometimes stopped to talk and say hi. I knew he was a couple of years older than I was and I knew what his first name was...but that was all. But we'd say hi and stuff and then when ever he'd see me he'd be like "Hey pretty lady, how are you doing?!". He'd always call me "pretty lady"...which I actually liked, because he also said it in a classy way...not the "hey baby" way...not the "sleazy" way. So I liked him because he seemed nice and polite and like a nice person. Then one day when we saw each other at the uni he was like "Hey you wanna go have a cup of coffee with me?". And what did I do...? I was like "Uhm....nnnoooo thanks....". And then he was like "oh..okay..." and then he left. And I never saw him again. And the whole thing pretty much happened because I was EXTREMELY shy...and didn't know what to say. :doh: And what I DID say...came out totally wrong! :doh: :lol: I was hesitating because I kind of "freaked out" because a GUY was asking me to go have coffee with him...I wasn't hesitating because I didn't wanna go. :doh: And he asked me if I wanna go get a cup of COFFEE....and I don't drink coffee...I hate coffee....so that's why I said "no thanks". :doh::doh::doh: :lol: :lol: But I didn't really mean, I wouldn't wanna go anywhere with him. :doh: :lol: Had he added "Well a bottle of soda then?"...it maybe would have worked out. :lol: Yeah, he probably didn't think he'd need to be THAT specific. :lol: But you know...I kind of took it he meant literally "a cup of coffee"...I didn't think he might be asking me out. :doh: :lol: Anyways, so of course later on it dawned on me what a stupid idiot I had been, so I kept hoping to see him again, so that I could ask him if he'd still wanna go have a cup of SOMETHING (coffee/tea/soda/:lol:) with me. Because I did like him and did wanna get to know him better. But I never saw him again. Neither his friend. And since I only knew his first name, and not his last name, I couldn't search for his e-mail addy on the uni e-mail and that way had no way of contacting him. So that was the end of it. But I've often thought about him and about the "what if's".

So you know, it's possible something like that could have happened to MJ too? That he found someone he liked...and then for whatever reason...he just didn't have a way of contacting her but kept thinking about her anyhow? :scratch:It's possible. :scratch:
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"She" may have "freaked out", "left", "resisted", etc., (whatever the specific was) because it was a guy rather than per se because it was MJ. I don't know if you had this in mind when you thought to post this, but maybe some things "dawned" on her too, giving rise to the line that says, "you said you wanted to go with me all the while" which indicates she had a chance to tell him why she did what she did.

This post represents well, what I'd been trying to say. There are still some women in the world who are not going to chase after a guy, jump at the chance, rush in head-long, or whatever it may be. Those with "old fashioned" training. Makes all the sense in the world to me anyway. This scenario seems to really fit the song too!
 
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