Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

Glanni;4287736 said:
this alone should be reason enough for the media to not believe this crap. But they lose too much money with telling the boring truth. So of course they go the money path with all the idiotic accusations. its about money. nothing else.

The media has an AGENDA. They WANT Michael to be guilty. They are still angry that their agenda didn’t work during the 2005 fiasco. They are STILL trying to “get”an innocent man who is no longer here to defend himself. Thank God the public is beginning to realize the scam for what it is.$$$
 
this alone should be reason enough for the media to not believe this crap. But they lose too much money with telling the boring truth. So of course they go the money path with all the idiotic accusations. its about money. nothing else.

Exactly. :clapping:
 
somewhereinthedark;4287801 said:
The media has an AGENDA. They WANT Michael to be guilty. They are still angry that their agenda didn’t work during the 2005 fiasco. They are STILL trying to “get”an innocent man who is no longer here to defend himself. Thank God the public is beginning to realize the scam for what it is.$$$

somewhereinthedark;4287772 said:
I have said this many times on this forum and others, but it seems some people have pedophilic FANTASIES about children and Michael. Those fantasies are both revolting and scary. Seriously, I wouldn’t want those people within a foot of my children. They are a danger to society. Be wary of the so-called “ normal” ones( friends, family members, priests, neighbors, etc.), those are the REAL pedophiles/predators.

somewhereinthedark;4287798 said:
Of course, morons WANT to believe these pedophilic FANTASIES, because secretly these sickos fantasize about a child having sex with a falsely accused, innocent man. The perversion Of the media and others who perpetuate this sick propaganda is truly vomit inducing.

Thank you for voicing your opinions somewhereinthedark speaking the truth with bravely. :kickass:
 
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somewhereinthedark;4287798 said:
Not to mention that even an adult would have shown some physical signs of being “butt-raped” even once a day, never mind the several times a day this lying piece of $#@* claimed. Can one use common sense to rationalize that there is no way in hell that an 11 year old kid could be raped that many times a day and not be “walking funny” or be in so much pain he wouldn’t be able to function. Instead, Brandy Jackson, his girl friend at the time he claimed he was raped, as well as Michael’s niece, said ROBson never showed any signs of distress.Ironically, this same extortionist claimed that Michael taught him to hate women. Yet, this same man introduced this Raid to his beloved niece.
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Wade Robson has never accused MJ of butt-raping him at all, let alone on a regular daily basis, so your theory above does not hold water. In fact in the allegations there is only one single mentioning of anal penetration, and that attempt failed. And that was at the very end of the alleged abuse. Wade Robson has never alleged that MJ raped him either.

You could however argue that it was weird that Robson could be in this deep love relationship with MJ and have a crush on Brandy at the same time. And why MJ would set Brandy and Wade up if Wade & himself was having a romance, that makes zero sense.

There is ample of information to defend MJ, we dont need to use arguments that are not based on facts, if we do, we just lose credibility and that undermines our efforts in discrediting the allegations.
 
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Not too mention not a single kid of 11 would be interested in sex several times a day with a grown up guy. Can you imagine how awkward it would have been?

Why would it have been awkward based on the story they are selling? The story is that MJ introduced them to sex in a pleasent way, they were sexually satisfied and fell in love with MJ. The sex was great. They had a romantic relationship with MJ and were deeply in love with him. MJ was the kindest, funniest and loving person they ever met and they loved every minute they spent with him. Hence Safechucks claims that they had sex very often especially in the beginning since the relationship was new etc. This is also part of one of Robsons version since he claims he never realized it was "abuse" since he was in love and that the sex was enjoyable etc.

We need to dissect the allegations based on the actual allegations and not as how we would think having sex with an adult would be like. If we were never introcuded to sex, seduced and in love with an adult then we could not possible put us in the mindset they are selling us with what they are alleging happened.

Again, this is their "story", which I am not buying. But we still need to treat the facts correctly. We have to discredit their story as its actually presented.
 
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Why would it have been awkward based on the story they are selling? The story is that MJ introduced them to sex in a pleasant way, they were sexually satisfied and fell in love with MJ. The sex was great. They had a romantic relationship with MJ and were deeply in love with him. MJ was the kindest, funniest and loving person they ever met and they loved every minute they spent with him. Hence Safechucks claims that they had sex very often especially in the beginning since the relationship was new etc.

We need to dissect the allegations based on the actual allegations and not as how we would think having sex with an adult would be like. If we were never introduced to sex, seduced and in love with an adult then we could not possible put us in the mindset they are selling us with what they are alleging happened.

Again, this is their "story", which I am not buying. But we still need to treat the facts correctly. We have to discredit their story as its actually presented.

I didn't watch this crap but from reading this made my stomach turn. no wonder some people brought this crap. i know Michael is innocent. but this is sick. :puke:
 
4 occasions, it could be 4 occasions of a full week (I have no clue). Which is 28 days in Neverland, that's about 4 times sex a day. I think someone would have noticed that :p
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Dont know if english is your native tonge.but when said it that context it means across the entire time.
 
You could however argue that it was weird that Robson could be in this deep love relationship with MJ and have a crush on Brandy at the same time. And why MJ would set Brandy and Wade up if Wade & himself was having a romance, that makes zero sense.

You can like more then one person. i'm am not buying wade story either but you can like more then one person at the sametime.
 
somewhereinthedark;4287772 said:
Let me preface my statements with this FACT: Children did NOT go into Michael&#8217;s 2 bedroom, 2 level, 3 bath, arcade/game room SUITE to just sleep, they were in their mostly to play games, watch movies, etc. The way the tabloids manipulated it you would think these girls and boys were just going in to only go to sleep. This is how people fell for this propaganda. Lisa Marie said EVERYONE would just pile on to the bed to watch TV or play games, etc. Even the extortionist Wade&#8217;s own mother said the CHILDREN and Michael would have so much fun that, sometimes they would all fall asleep on top of the bed. She said even she would be in there with them and did the same thing. Sometimes Michael would sleep on the floor. Some children would even be in the second bedroom on the 2nd level.

This sums it up. Had the media truthfully reported what all those witnesses said, we wouldn&#8217;t have a problem. MJ simply loved to have a big family around him. That&#8217;s how he grew up and it&#8217;s really easy to see why he would feel lonely without all these people buzzing around him.

Again, I wasn&#8217;t even a fan before this whole LN thing made the rounds on Twitter, so I couldn&#8217;t have been any more neutral than I was at the time when I started looking into things. And one of the first things I did (after watching one or two rebuttal documentaries for balance) was reading the actual court transcripts and Aphrodite&#8217;s book. I&#8217;m a very rational person and I had no reason to &#8220;believe&#8221; anyone involved, and yet it became very clear to me that MJ was the victim in this whole story.

somewhereinthedark;4287772 said:
Let&#8217;s not forget that all of this is on tape. Yet, some in the public are gullible enough to believe the crap from the fraudomentary. Sadly, the public is made up of people who equate being around children with sex and that is the sickest thing about the whole situation. I have said this many times on this forum and others, but it seems some people have pedophilic FANTASIES about children and Michael. Those fantasies are both revolting and scary. Seriously, I wouldn&#8217;t want those people within a foot of my children. They are a danger to society. Be wary of the so-called &#8220; normal&#8221; ones( friends, family members, priests, neighbors, etc.), those are the REAL pedophiles/predators.

This is the scary part of the whole affair, really. I don&#8217;t want anything to do with people who look at kids this way. :puke:

SmoothGangsta;4287764 said:
MJ slept in bed with kids, sometimes when the parents were not in the room, yes, to most people, that is strange and could be signs of something else. I am not speaking of MJs intentions in this regard, but it was in his best interest of his own safety, to stop doing it. He was perhaps naive in this way.

Right. Because everyone would have believed him if he had said he &#8220;stopped&#8221;. No way the tabloids would have continued making assumptions and fat headlines about what was really going on at Neverland, right?
 
Lightbringer;4287806 said:
Wade Robson has never accused MJ of butt-raping him at all, let alone on a regular daily basis, so your theory above does not hold water. In fact in the allegations there is only one single mentioning of anal penetration, and that attempt failed. And that was at the very end of the alleged abuse. Wade Robson has never alleged that MJ raped him either.

You could however argue that it was weird that Robson could be in this deep love relationship with MJ and have a crush on Brandy at the same time. And why MJ would set Brandy and Wade up if Wade & himself was having a romance, that makes zero sense.

There is ample of information to defend MJ, we dont need to use arguments that are not based on facts, if we do, we just lose credibility and that undermines our efforts in discrediting the allegations.

If I am not mistaken Raid claimed he was &#8220;butt-raped when he originally made the fake allegations in 2013. He changed his story in the fraudomentary because his assertion caused people to question how a kid would hsve been &#8220;butt-raped&#8221; 100&#8217;s Of Times and no one notice. Remember, you are speaking of his fantasy in the fraudomentary that the &#8220;attempt&#8221; failed. That was another version of Raid&#8217;s concoction. FTR, anytime that an adult is claimed to have sex with a child that is rape IMO. The ONLY reason that ROBson didn&#8217;t claim that is that it didn&#8217;t fit the NAMBLA narrative that Dieann DEMOND and Victor Gutierrez used during the Chandler fiasco.
Their narrative was that this was a &#8220;love story&#8221; between a man and a boy. Thus the NAMBLA inspired narrative. ROBson and Safechuck are using the exact same SCRIPT from from Guitterez&#8217;s child porn book.

The graphic allegations from the two extortionist in the fraudomentary are almost word for word from that disgusting creatures book, especially the &#8216;wedding&#8217; by the sexually ambitious Safecluck. Of course, the gullible public wouldn&#8217;t know that because they WANT these pedophilic FANTASIES to be true. You can bet that the media knows about it as much as I and other AWARE fans do.
 
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Wade Robson has never accused MJ of butt-raping him at all, let alone on a regular daily basis, so your theory above does not hold water. In fact in the allegations there is only one single mentioning of anal penetration, and that attempt failed. And that was at the very end of the alleged abuse. Wade Robson has never alleged that MJ raped him either.

You could however argue that it was weird that Robson could be in this deep love relationship with MJ and have a crush on Brandy at the same time. And why MJ would set Brandy and Wade up if Wade & himself was having a romance, that makes zero sense.

There is ample of information to defend MJ, we dont need to use arguments that are not based on facts, if we do, we just lose credibility and that undermines our efforts in discrediting the allegations.

Sorry for double posts.
 
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Whatever Michael stopped or not people would still see him as a pedo. so there's really no way around it. maybe it was good for him keep doing it. tell the world that he was innocent. and that he wasn't gonna stop for anyone because he knows himself then anyone else does.

good for you Michael. giving justice to yourself. you was very strong. r.i.p dear.
 
Why would it have been awkward based on the story they are selling? The story is that MJ introduced them to sex in a pleasent way, they were sexually satisfied and fell in love with MJ. The sex was great. They had a romantic relationship with MJ and were deeply in love with him. MJ was the kindest, funniest and loving person they ever met and they loved every minute they spent with him. Hence Safechucks claims that they had sex very often especially in the beginning since the relationship was new etc. This is also part of one of Robsons version since he claims he never realized it was "abuse" since he was in love and that the sex was enjoyable etc.

We need to dissect the allegations based on the actual allegations and not as how we would think having sex with an adult would be like. If we were never introcuded to sex, seduced and in love with an adult then we could not possible put us in the mindset they are selling us with what they are alleging happened.

Again, this is their "story", which I am not buying. But we still need to treat the facts correctly. We have to discredit their story as its actually presented.

Double post.
 
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Lightbringer;4287808 said:
Why would it have been awkward based on the story they are selling? The story is that MJ introduced them to sex in a pleasent way, they were sexually satisfied and fell in love with MJ. The sex was great. They had a romantic relationship with MJ and were deeply in love with him. MJ was the kindest, funniest and loving person they ever met and they loved every minute they spent with him. Hence Safechucks claims that they had sex very often especially in the beginning since the relationship was new etc. This is also part of one of Robsons version since he claims he never realized it was "abuse" since he was in love and that the sex was enjoyable etc.

We need to dissect the allegations based on the actual allegations and not as how we would think having sex with an adult would be like. If we were never introcuded to sex, seduced and in love with an adult then we could not possible put us in the mindset they are selling us with what they are alleging happened.

Again, this is their "story", which I am not buying. But we still need to treat the facts correctly. We have to discredit their story as its actually presented.

Remember this is the SCRIPT from Victor Guiterrez child porn/NAMBLA inspired book called “ Michael Jackson was My Lover’. Guiterrez, DEVILanne DEMONd AND Evan worked together on this child porn narrative. They released it to the media and fanned the flames. Ask yourself this question, IF your son had really been abused, would you cooperate and endorse a book about your son being the lover of his abuser. This is just one of the plots that Chandler used to extort money from Michael. A FATHER did this to his own son for $$$. This father of the so-called “abused” son went straight to a CIVIL lawyer, not the police, as a normal father would do IF their kid had actually been abused. Michael actually thought the media and public would see through this extortion, however the Media WANTED Michael to be guilty so they ignored the evidence that was starring them the face. Just as they are doing with fraudomentary.

Not one time did the extortionist Evan Chandler file a police report, he blackmailed Michael with the Guiterrez book and releasing lies to DD so that she could spread the propaganda to the tabloid media and MSM.Sound familiar? It should. IT is the exact same thing that the latest extortists-Robson and Safechuck are doing. They participated in a graphic child porn movie in order to force the MJJ Estate to settle.Not going to happen in a million years. They are using the exact NAMBLA script from a sick bastard, and pretending they were the lovers of their so-called “@buser”. They are suing for $$$, not justice. A person doesn’t have to be a brain surgeon to know that ALL Of this is bull@#$&. As John Branca said during an interview, it is a DAMN lie.
 
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somewhereinthedark;4287824 said:
If I am not mistaken Raid claimed he was &#8220;butt-raped when he originally made the fake allegations in 2013. He changed his story in the fraudomentary because his assertion caused people to question how a kid would hsve been &#8220;butt-raped&#8221; 100&#8217;s Of Times and no one notice. Remember, you are speaking of his fantasy in the fraudomentary that the &#8220;attempt&#8221; failed. That was another version of Raid&#8217;s concoction. FTR, anytime that an adult is claimed to have sex with a child that is rape IMO. The ONLY reason that ROBson didn&#8217;t claim that is that it didn&#8217;t fit the NAMBLA narrative that Dieann DEMOND and Victor Gutierrez used during the Chandler fiasco.
Their narrative was that this was a &#8220;love story&#8221; between a man and a boy. Thus the NAMBLA inspired narrative. ROBson and Safechuck are using the exact same SCRIPT from from Guitterez&#8217;s child porn book.

The graphic allegations from the two extortionist in the fraudomentary are almost word for word from that disgusting creatures book, especially the &#8216;wedding&#8217; by the sexually ambitious Safecluck. Of course, the gullible public wouldn&#8217;t know that because they WANT these pedophilic FANTASIES to be true. You can bet that the media knows about it as much as I and other AWARE fans do.

Dan Reed has never claimed Robson was butt-raped on a regular basis. Dan Reed of course is a weasel, he alternates between the boys being in love with MJ to explain why the boys never said anything, why they took so long to disclose the alleged abuse etc. Then Reed sometimes goes on the attack with "Michael Jackson raped those kids", like it was a violent assault. Reed just uses what is most convenient for him at the time.

Of course its statuatory rape to have sex with a child, regardless if its soft, gentle and consensual sex, but thats not how Reed is spinning it sometimes, it sounds as if MJ physically forced himself on the boys etc.
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Note: Robson did not change his story in Leaving Neverland to reduce questions about whether he had been abused 100 of times - because Leaving Neverland was already finished and screened when Robson and Safechuck FIRST claimed they were "abused 100s of times". They made that statement after the broadcast of Leaving Neverland.

To prevent further confusion, you can always read the court transcripts from the Robson allegations, in case you have not already done it.

Btw, just to be clear: I do know all about Guiterrez and what happened in 1993 inside out. But you still have to discredit the story presented by the crooks, since there are experts saying these kind of boy/adult relationships do exist, even if rare etc.

I just want to make sure the fans chooses a higher ground and stick to only facts. We already made the mistake of spreading false stories about Safechuck saying it was one way glass in the rooms for disabled people in the film-theater at neverland, and that Safechuck spent the "honeymoon" at disneyland Paris before it existed - when he were with MJ at disneyland Florida. We must pay attention to the details and dont sink to the lows of the opposing side who are using falsehood and lies.
 
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Lightbringer;4287832 said:
Dan Reed has never claimed Robson was butt-raped on a regular basis. Dan Reed of course is a weasel, he alternates between the boys being in love with MJ to explain why the boys never said anything, why they took so long to disclose the alleged abuse etc. Then Reed sometimes goes on the attack with "Michael Jackson raped those kids", like it was a violent assault. Reed just uses what is most convenient for him at the time.

Of course its statuatory rape to have sex with a child, regardless if its soft, gentle and consensual sex, but thats not how Reed is spinning it sometimes, it sounds as if MJ physically forced himself on the boys etc.
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Note: Robson did not change his story in Leaving Neverland to reduce questions about whether he had been abused 100 of times - because Leaving Neverland was already finished and screened when Robson and Safechuck FIRST claimed they were "abused 100s of times". They made that statement after the broadcast of Leaving Neverland.
To prevent further confusion, you can always read the court transcripts from the Robson allegations, in case you have not already done it.

Btw, just to be clear: I do know all about Guiterrez and what happened in 1993 inside out. But you still have to discredit the story presented by the crooks, since there are experts saying these kind of boy/adult relationships do exist, even if rare etc.

I just want to make sure the fans chooses a higher ground and stick to only facts. We already made the mistake of spreading false stories about Safechuck saying it was one way glass in the rooms for disabled people in the film-theater at neverland, and that Safechuck spent the "honeymoon" at disneyland Paris before it existed - when he were with MJ at disneyland Florida. We must pay attention to the details and dont sink to the lows of the opposing side.

Thank you for clearing up some things. FTR, I never said that bastard, Dan Reed, claimed Raid aka Wade was &#8220;butt-raped&#8221; .I said the fake accuser made that claim when he initially came out with his bogus allegations and was doing interviews. This was before Safe**** joined the bandwagon.

The bottomline is he said he was abused, in reality raped, 100&#8217;s of times. To have sex that many times would wear out, or cause even a sexually active ADULT to have some problems, let alone a 11 year old CHILD. Let&#8217;s not forget this b@#$&* claimed these 100&#8217;s of times happened during the very few times that he and his mama and sister showed up UNANNOUNCED at Neverland. Let&#8217;s remember that Michael had started distancing himself from this grifter family, just as he did another grifter family, the Arvizzos. This crap is so transparent that even a 5th grader could see through it. Of course, when it comes to Michael- common sense, rational thinking and objectivity is thrown out the window. Which leaves us with brain-dead, stupid, easily manipulated, and gullible ADULTS!!

Btw, where did the idea that fans said Safe**** talked about one way glass in theater? I never heard that. If I&#8217;m not mistaken the false claim about the so-called &#8220;one-way&#8221; glass came from one of the extortionist involved in the child porn film. It was either one of the grifter mama&#8217;s or the weasel who directed this porn. It may have not been Safe****; however, it was one of his fellow co-conspirators/extortionists who made that claim. Let&#8217;s not forget that it was Safe**** who made claim of NON-Existent( at the time) train station. His pedophilic FANTASY caused him to hallucinate.
 
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somewhereinthedark;4287835 said:
Thank you for clearing up some things. FTR, I never said that bastard, Dan Reed, claimed Raid aka Wade was “butt-raped” .I said the fake accuser made that claim when he initially came out with his bogus allegations and was doing interviews. This was before Safe**** joined the bandwagon.!

Correct. It was all over the tabloids back then:
https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/08/michael-jackson-wade-robson-sexual-assault-anal/
https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/08/wade-robson-mj-anal-rape-claims-facebook-post/

Documented here: https://themichaeljacksonallegations.com/2018/05/12/robsons-route-to-changing-his-story-part-9/
 
Why would it have been awkward based on the story they are selling? The story is that MJ introduced them to sex in a pleasent way, they were sexually satisfied and fell in love with MJ. The sex was great. They had a romantic relationship with MJ and were deeply in love with him. MJ was the kindest, funniest and loving person they ever met and they loved every minute they spent with him. Hence Safechucks claims that they had sex very often especially in the beginning since the relationship was new etc. This is also part of one of Robsons version since he claims he never realized it was "abuse" since he was in love and that the sex was enjoyable etc.

We need to dissect the allegations based on the actual allegations and not as how we would think having sex with an adult would be like. If we were never introcuded to sex, seduced and in love with an adult then we could not possible put us in the mindset they are selling us with what they are alleging happened.

Again, this is their "story", which I am not buying. But we still need to treat the facts correctly. We have to discredit their story as its actually presented.

Straight out of the NAMBLA play book. NAMBLA has wanted MJ to be their poster boy for YEARS.
 
Straight out of the NAMBLA play book. NAMBLA has wanted MJ to be their poster boy for YEARS.

Yes, I know and thats disgusting. I mean Victor fishing for years to be able to get what the NAMBLA wanted, thats one of the worst parts of the whole thing. Just imagine spending that time and effort to turn someone into a child molester, absurd. People dont want to hear it! Every time I bring this up in discussions on swedish newspaper facebooks comment sections they label me as crazy, even though I deliver all the recipes they need to verify I am talking facts and truth. The general public cant even imagine Gutierrez existed and what he did - it sounds like conspiracy theorys to them.
 
NatureCriminal7896;4287816 said:
You can like more then one person. i'm am not buying wade story either but you can like more then one person at the sametime.

Nope, not in this case. Let’s not forget that RAID claimed that Michael taught him to hate women. Therefore, how could RAID like Brandy, if Michael was teaching him to hate girls/women. It doesn’t fit their narrative or agenda. The LIE is obvious. This is same lie that DD was coaching the Arvizzo to spew. RAidson and Safe**** are using exact same SCRIPT. That is why the tabloid skank’s stench is all over this LN fraud. You would think that the D-rated creatures would have the intelligence to use a different script; however, we are dealing with TABLOID TRASH, what else could be expected from people of this ilk?
 
Can someone give me the details on this apparent sequel that Reed is planning? What is known so far about this?
 
ScreenOrigami;4287837 said:

Thank you for the FACTS and EVIDENCE. As I previously stated the Son of a @#&** changed his story for the fraudomentary and claimed that Michael made an ATTEMPT to &#8220;butt-rape&#8221; him. His first claim is different than the one he spewed in LN. He had to change it, because people would have immediately questioned why his Mama didn&#8217;t take him to doctor, if that happened one time, albeit 100&#8217;s Of Times. The Public are not aware how much Reed and the extortionists changed their child porn narrative to fit the SCRIPT.
 
Lightbringer;4287842 said:
Yes, I know and thats disgusting. I mean Victor fishing for years to be able to get what the NAMBLA wanted, thats one of the worst parts of the whole thing. Just imagine spending that time and effort to turn someone into a child molester, absurd. People dont want to hear it! Every time I bring this up in discussions on swedish newspaper facebooks comment sections they label me as crazy, even though I deliver all the recipes they need to verify I am talking facts and truth. The general public cant even imagine Gutierrez existed and what he did - it sounds like conspiracy theorys to them.


Of course, the public doesn&#8217;t believe that about Guiterrez, because they WANT Michael to be guilty. However, you have to do as I have done for 30+ years and be persistent. I don&#8217;t allow anyone to diminish my resolve. Through the years, I have changed the entire narrative of haters who have come up with this SAME weak bull@#$&? BELIEVE ME, THIS IS NOT NEW!!! If these detractor/haters see that they CAN manipulate you with their false rhetoric, they will continue to spew lies. If they can&#8217;t manipulate you, they either will give up, begin to research and understand that what you are saying is the truth,OR they continue to wallow in ignorance and mendacity.
 
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Can someone give me the details on this apparent sequel that Reed is planning? What is known so far about this?

I am not sure its apparant that there will be a sequel, but I believe Reed is covering all bases. And I dont think details about a potential follow up movie to LN are known at all.

Here is a somewhat positive view on Dan Reed filming the court case:

Personally I think Dan Reed is playing DEFENSE now rather than attacking. I believe Reed wants to document Robson & Safechucks court cases to be able to say that only MJs companys were absolved of blame if/WHEN they lose. Reed is going to make a cry-fest about how these poor boys were given the short stick yet again, and how unjust the legal system is etc.

Thats the whole point, in my theory. A loss for Robson & Safechuck will damage his and Leaving Neverlands credibility, so Reed wants to be able to make damage limitation if that were to happen. Because if no one is there to document what transpires, its more likely MJs case for innonence will be boosted. If Reed gets a platform to manipulate and cherry pick again, maybe he can regain momentum yet again or at least keep equilibrium.

And of course should they win, I am sure he could use the footage some way and proclaim how right he was etc.
 
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I am not sure its apparant that there will be a sequel, but I believe Reed is covering all bases. And I dont think details about a potential follow up movie to LN are known at all.

Here is a somewhat positive view on Dan Reed filming the court case:

Personally I think Dan Reed is playing DEFENSE now rather than attacking. I believe Reed wants to document Robson & Safechucks court cases to be able to say that only MJs companys were absolved of blame if/WHEN they lose. Reed is going to make a cry-fest about how these poor boys were given the short stick yet again, and how unjust the legal system is etc.

Thats the whole point, in my theory. A loss for Robson & Safechuck will damage his and Leaving Neverlands credibility, so Reed wants to be able to make damage limitation if that were to happen. Because if no one is there to document what transpires, its more likely MJs case for innonence will be boosted. If Reed gets a platform to manipulate and cherry pick again, maybe he can regain momentum yet again or at least keep equilibrium.

And of course should they win, I am sure he could use the footage some way and proclaim how right he was etc.

What Reed fails to understand is that child abuse cases are very hard to convict. I mean, without any proof e.g. a sperm sample or something all it is really is my word against there's. It's sad really, cause many REAL victims of child abuse (inc myself) don't bother going to court because they have nothing to prove that what they say happened to them actually happened. And thus it is hard to get a conviction.
 
somewhereinthedark;4287843 said:
Nope, not in this case. Let’s not forget that RAID claimed that Michael taught him to hate women. Therefore, how could RAID like Brandy, if Michael was teaching him to hate girls/women. It doesn’t fit their narrative or agenda. The LIE is obvious. This is same lie that DD was coaching the Arvizzo to spew. RAidson and Safe**** are using exact same SCRIPT. That is why the tabloid skank’s stench is all over this LN fraud. You would think that the D-rated creatures would have the intelligence to use a different script; however, we are dealing with TABLOID TRASH, what else could be expected from people of this ilk?
And if MJ wanted him to hate women, why did Wade take his wife to Neverland in 2007 and according to Grace, Wade wanted to get married there: https://twitter.com/Lovelife4b/status/1237192343071141893
 
Cant wait for the day all these people are proven to be liars! It's been a long overdue..
 
I really don't understand why I'm getting replies explaining to me why kids were in MJs bedroom, I know this. I already said I am not speaking about MJs conduct in regards to children. We all know he was innocent. I am merely saying that it was in his best interests to not be doing that, because most people would not view it in the way that it actually was. As sad and unfortunate as that is. Many people throughout MJs life tried to let him know this, to protect him, but mj didn't see the danger.
 
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