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This is completely out of topic but as a comparison I just googled Janet Jackson daughter and I disn’t realize she had so many ”daughters” born 1982-90 atleast some articles claimed there is ”dna evidence” and there was even once a rumour that Omer Bhatti is actually her son and all that came out of an original rumour that she was pregnant after her divorce from James DeBarge in 1985. His halfbrother once claimed that a daughter was born in 1987 etc..
 
NatureCriminal7896;4265140 said:
oh my goodness. whatever Janet did in her life is her business.
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Ofcourse. I was just refering to how a stupid rumour got out of control and the media just printed it even with her. There has NEVER been anything that indicated that it was true. And it was 1985 not 82, 87, 90 or whatever so even there they didn’t even have to pick the right year.
 
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I agree. See what happen to Tatum and she walked back on twitter with Taj and Jermaine. I want to hear what lavelle, Jennifer, Greg P, and others have to say if Sheryl comments get more exposed. I got a feeling she is going to say she was misquoted.
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What did I miss with Tatum? I did not hear about this as it relates to her walking back on Twitter.
 
Tatum believes he did touch them because she said she was 12 dating MJ and that she looked like a boy and some other stuff. it's really stupid. she just looking for money. she got a new movie coming out. wouldn't be surprise she doing this for that reason.
 
NatureCriminal7896 said:
Tatum believes he did touch them because she said she was 12 dating MJ and that she looked like a boy and some other stuff. it's really stupid. she just looking for money. she got a new movie coming out. wouldn't be surprise she doing this for that reason.
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The movie is out, I've unfortunately seen it and I'd rather have watched paint dry, its looking like the so called celebrities are bad mouthing Michael when they have a new song or movie coming out, it's very sad that they have to resort to these tactics to get noticed
 
NatureCriminal7896 said:
Tatum believes he did touch them because she said she was 12 dating MJ and that she looked like a boy and some other stuff. it's really stupid. she just looking for money. she got a new movie coming out. wouldn't be surprise she doing this for that reason.
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She was on twitter and Taj tweeted her. She got backlash and so all the ugly comments she was getting and she talked Taj/Jermaine.
 
Alh21 said:
its looking like the so called celebrities are bad mouthing Michael when they have a new song or movie coming out, it's very sad that they have to resort to these tactics to get noticed
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The only person who hasn't jump that wagon is Madonna.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I really hope that the fight for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/michaeljackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#michaeljackson</a> will never die. The opposition may appear to be strong right now but it won’t last long because in history truth always prevails - lies do not.</p>&mdash; Regina&amp;Roger (@RogerStan123) <a href="https://twitter.com/RogerStan123/status/1158145447552151553?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What a joke. How can u write this with a straight face? Especially with all the lies and falsehoods that we’re exposed once people actually got to see the thing. There is nothing brave about an orchestrated “hit” on someone not here to defend himself.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FactsDontLiePeopleDo?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FactsDontLiePeopleDo</a> <a href="https://t.co/CzuKLXNHOH">https://t.co/CzuKLXNHOH</a></p>&mdash; Taj Jackson (@tajjackson3) <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3/status/1158071107443806208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hilarious. This is like if a Trump campaign commercial had won for non-fiction “News &amp; Information.” <br><br>Robson and Safechuck are laughing their asses off at these morons... <a href="https://t.co/nZwEJAmWFx">https://t.co/nZwEJAmWFx</a></p>&mdash; John Ziegler (@Zigmanfreud) <a href="https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud/status/1158102634995130368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">FYI re the MJ Estate v HBO next hearing. Due to scheduling conflicts by the HBO attorneys, the new court date for the hearing has been changed from 9/16 to 9/19. Unfortunately, I don't think I will be able to be there. <a href="https://t.co/Ies3UXppjz">pic.twitter.com/Ies3UXppjz</a></p>&mdash; andjustice4some (@andjustice4some) <a href="https://twitter.com/andjustice4some/status/1158397860947173376?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">5. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Props to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/UniversalStudiosHollywood?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#UniversalStudiosHollywood</a> / <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/UniversalCityWalk?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#UniversalCityWalk</a>. In the wake of the tragic event's of the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ElPaso?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ElPaso</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Dayton?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Dayton</a> shootings. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ManInTheMirror?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ManInTheMirror</a> was played.<br><br>&quot;MAKE THAT CHANGE&quot; <br>&#128247; <a href="https://twitter.com/Joseph_Mora78?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Joseph_Mora78</a> <a href="https://t.co/9sZIpxuiFL">pic.twitter.com/9sZIpxuiFL</a></p>&mdash; Joseph Mora (@Joseph_Mora78) <a href="https://twitter.com/Joseph_Mora78/status/1158234514759405568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">5. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Non fiction? What about the train station dates that debunked the whole film. Where is Jordan and Gavin? Brett Barnes is also missing. Where’s the whole story? 14 counts not guilty. what’s wrong with these people? <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/notbelievingneverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#notbelievingneverland</a> <a href="https://t.co/r9yRzxzjwC">https://t.co/r9yRzxzjwC</a></p>&mdash; James Bourne (@JamesBourne) <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesBourne/status/1158102785780527104?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The only band member MJ really spoke to on the Bad Tour was Chris Currell, who was basically the unofficial musical director.<br><br>What MJ said on the phone to Currell about Sheryl Crow during rehearsals: “You know the blonde girl who does the duet? She’s got no soul.” <a href="https://t.co/VDXCJNQp8y">https://t.co/VDXCJNQp8y</a></p>&mdash; Mike Smallcombe (@mikesmallcombe1) <a href="https://twitter.com/mikesmallcombe1/status/1158060913909542912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Check it ..<a href="https://t.co/GvwPFZI7NK">https://t.co/GvwPFZI7NK</a> There will be no muting of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a> Sisqo speaks to Bev Smith -- <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MondayMorning?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MondayMorning</a> This is IT!! --</p>&mdash; MJJJusticeProject (@MJJJusticePrjct) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJJJusticePrjct/status/1158389387371040769?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">5. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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You know, alot of the stress that Michael faced in his life was because his immense talent, fame and charisma meant that people wanted to be able to claim that he was moulded by them, inspired by them, important to them in some way, that because of them Michael was who he was. When that did not happen, those people got angry, petty and vengeful.

This is not something that is peculiar to Michael and the people around him. It is - sorry for the pun - human nature.

But the man is gone now and those people need to let him rest in peace. And they need to face the reality - that even though he has been gone for 10 years, he is still more relevant than they will ever be.
 
TheChosenOne said:
You know, alot of the stress that Michael faced in his life was because his immense talent, fame and charisma meant that people wanted to be able to claim that he was moulded by them, inspired by them, important to them in some way, that because of them Michael was who he was. When that did not happen, those people got angry, petty and vengeful.

This is not something that is peculiar to Michael and the people around him. It is - sorry for the pun - human nature.

But the man is gone now and those people need to let him rest in peace. And they need to face the reality - that even though he has been gone for 10 years, he is still more relevant than they will ever be.
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And related to that, Robson and Safechuck will now ONLY be remembered for falsely accusing Michael, rather than anything achieved during their lifetimes (assuming they don't go on to do anything worse to anyone equally famous).
 
TheChosenOne said:
You know, alot of the stress that Michael faced in his life was because his immense talent, fame and charisma meant that people wanted to be able to claim that he was moulded by them, inspired by them, important to them in some way, that because of them Michael was who he was. When that did not happen, those people got angry, petty and vengeful.

This is not something that is peculiar to Michael and the people around him. It is - sorry for the pun - human nature.

But the man is gone now and those people need to let him rest in peace. And they need to face the reality - that even though he has been gone for 10 years, he is still more relevant than they will ever be.
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BINGO. look at Wade. he did not get the part in the MJ show and now this. I guess he also said "if I can not get, then I will try to destroy MJ". fool do not know, that is going to come back to bit him. I still think James will crack. He has that look like "what have I got myself into".
 
TheChosenOne said:
You know, alot of the stress that Michael faced in his life was because his immense talent, fame and charisma meant that people wanted to be able to claim that he was moulded by them, inspired by them, important to them in some way, that because of them Michael was who he was. When that did not happen, those people got angry, petty and vengeful.

This is not something that is peculiar to Michael and the people around him. It is - sorry for the pun - human nature.

But the man is gone now and those people need to let him rest in peace. And they need to face the reality - that even though he has been gone for 10 years, he is still more relevant than they will ever be.
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Sometimes I get the feeling these media people, haters, etc can not let MJ. I can not explain. it is like they get excited about news on MJ. I can understand us as fans but NOT the media and haters. Even those few who claimed to not play his music now but they still talk about him even more than his song would be playing if they were playing it. :coockoo::coockoo::coockoo::coockoo:
 
Terrell - how did Tatum walk back what she said after talking to Taj and Jermaine Jackson?
 













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Wow. All it takes is for Jermaine to tell her that it is not true?

Gimme a break, Ms O'Neal. Stupse.

If she really believed that Michael was a child molester, she should have stood her ground - no matter the 'ugliness' it caused. We stand our ground in defense of his innocence.

I have no respect for this woman.
 
terrell said:
There are plenty who do not but the media do not put them or share their comments.
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yeah i know. but she kind of been sticking up for MJ for a long time. i'm not a fan of her and Michael didn't like her from what she did and the fact their were two different people. but for her to still stick for him this long. i give her a shoutout. i hope she doesn't jump on that wagon anytime soon. but it not over yet.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The only band member MJ really spoke to on the Bad Tour was Chris Currell, who was basically the unofficial musical director.<br><br>What MJ said on the phone to Currell about Sheryl Crow during rehearsals: “You know the blonde girl who does the duet? She’s got no soul.” <a href="https://t.co/VDXCJNQp8y">https://t.co/VDXCJNQp8y</a></p>— Mike Smallcombe (@mikesmallcombe1) <a href="https://twitter.com/mikesmallcombe1/status/1158060913909542912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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Whoa! was he just joking or was he just upset with her? what did she do to him? it's like he was joking but i know don't know. wow.
 
terrell said:
BINGO. look at Wade. he did not get the part in the MJ show and now this. I guess he also said "if I can not get, then I will try to destroy MJ". fool do not know, that is going to come back to bit him. I still think James will crack. He has that look like "what have I got myself into".
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I love your optimism. I sincerely hope you're right. Hearing people (on podcasts, etc.) talk like they were there is very frustrating. Bunch of cu*ts.
 
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La74;4265141 said:
Ofcourse. I was just refering to how a stupid rumour got out of control and the media just printed it even with her. There has NEVER been anything that indicated that it was true. And it was 1985 not 82, 87, 90 or whatever so even there they didn’t even have to pick the right year.
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If Janet did had daughters that her business and her life. maybe she wasn't ready for kids yet. we will never know if that's true but it's like a rumor though. anyway, we never know and it isn't our life.
 
La74 said:
Ok but then you dig a hole for others you often fall into it yourself you know. MJs streamings are up 40% this year. He had over 1 billion streamings and it is August. That says a lot of what people really think so and what does that do for the credibility for that award show. The agenda is just to obvious and obviously considering his streamings etc people do see that.
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This month just came in and the year isn't over yet. that number may go up.
 
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