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Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Congrats <a href="https://twitter.com/lavellesmithjr_?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@lavellesmithjr_</a>! The Man Beahind the Dance has been selected to be a part of &#39;The Lift-Off Sessions&#39; Film Festival 2019!! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Mutewho?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Mutewho</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HonorMJ?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HonorMJ</a> <a href="https://t.co/zbGETuVwFX">pic.twitter.com/zbGETuVwFX</a></p>&mdash; Serena Maricchio (@seryshine) <a href="https://twitter.com/seryshine/status/1157353830360727552?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
I love Michael. he was such a very intelligent man. but i'm gonna go ahead and say it. he was so naïve. and not bashing him or anything because i'm like that too which i'm working on. but Michael should of been more careful on trusting people etc. Michael saw this world more differently than others did.
 
La74 said:
He was an eccentric person and an easy target and maybe there is some rasism in it as well. Which is why I think it is important to support Taj. Charles Thomson is now also in his team and show that that we will never give up. The guy with the youtube channel with many followers also sounded like a good idea.
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I'm following Taj on twitter and a few others that are on Michaels side but I still feel like I'm not doing enough, how much longer do we have to wait for any news, feels like it's been forever
 
I told my mom about the emmys. she says it's nothing to worry about. emmys are nothing. so fans should not get work up about it. she says it isn't serious to try to hurt yourself over nonsense awards. so i guess we all need to calm down and if it does wins we shouldn't really care and really wouldn't matter. i hope she's right.... she a huge fan of Michael.
 
wendijane said:
Thats brett barnes isnt it . gorgeous lovely humble person he is!
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I was confused there for a minute, I thought it was Brett Barnes that had changed his story about Michael but its OK it was that Cory idiot, I was panicking there :scream:
 
NatureCriminal7896 said:
I told my mom about the emmys. she says it's nothing to worry about. emmys are nothing. so fans should not get work up about it. she says it isn't serious to try to hurt yourself over nonsense awards. so i guess we all need to calm down and if it does wins we shouldn't really care and really wouldn't matter. i hope she's right.... she a huge fan of Michael.
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Your mom's right, who gives a crap, Michael is way more bigger and better though of, doesn't mean anything to me and I'd hope Michael felt the same way
 
USA TV Critics proving that they are a 'fact free' organisation. (This is a group of just 200 media 'critics' who appear to have zero interest in truth):

'Fleabag,' 'Better Call Saul,' Michelle Williams among top winners of TV critics' awards

And HBO won three awards, for movie or miniseries ("Chernobyl"); news and information program ("Leaving Neverland," detailing sexual abuse claims against singer Michael Jackson) and &#8211; in a repeat win &#8211; sketch/variety program ("Last Week Tonight with John Oliver").

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/enter...-better-call-saul-take-top-honors/1913118001/

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Phoebe Waller-Bridge's Amazon comedy took home three wins, including program of the year at the 35th annual TCA kudos.

HBO also had a big night with Last Week Tonight With John Oliver winning the prize for achievement in sketch/variety show for the second year in a row. The cabler's Michael Jackson exposé Leaving Neverland won the prized for achievement in news and information, while Chernobyl took home the win for best movie/miniseries. As was previously announced HBO's Deadwood and creator David Milch were recognized with the Heritage Award and Lifetime Achievement prize, respectively.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/fleabag-dominates-tv-critics-awards-1229076
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These were the nominations:

OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT IN NEWS AND INFORMATION
&#8220;60 Minutes&#8221; &#8211; CBS (2012 Winner in Category)
&#8220;America To Me&#8221; &#8211; Starz
&#8220;Leaving Neverland&#8221; &#8211; HBO
&#8220;Our Planet&#8221; &#8211; Netflix
&#8220;The Rachel Maddow Show&#8221; &#8211; MSNBC
&#8220;Surviving R. Kelly&#8221; &#8211; Lifetime

http://tvcritics.org/the-television-critics-association-announces-2019-tca-award-nominations/
 
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USA TV Critics proving that they are a 'fact free' organisation. (This is a group of just 200 media 'critics' who appear to have zero interest in truth):

'Fleabag,' 'Better Call Saul,' Michelle Williams among top winners of TV critics' awards

And HBO won three awards, for movie or miniseries ("Chernobyl"); news and information program ("Leaving Neverland," detailing sexual abuse claims against singer Michael Jackson) and – in a repeat win – sketch/variety program ("Last Week Tonight with John Oliver").

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/enter...-better-call-saul-take-top-honors/1913118001/

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Phoebe Waller-Bridge's Amazon comedy took home three wins, including program of the year at the 35th annual TCA kudos.

HBO also had a big night with Last Week Tonight With John Oliver winning the prize for achievement in sketch/variety show for the second year in a row. The cabler's Michael Jackson exposé Leaving Neverland won the prized for achievement in news and information, while Chernobyl took home the win for best movie/miniseries. As was previously announced HBO's Deadwood and creator David Milch were recognized with the Heritage Award and Lifetime Achievement prize, respectively.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/fleabag-dominates-tv-critics-awards-1229076
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These were the nominations:

OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT IN NEWS AND INFORMATION
“60 Minutes” – CBS (2012 Winner in Category)
“America To Me” – Starz
“Leaving Neverland” – HBO
“Our Planet” – Netflix
“The Rachel Maddow Show” – MSNBC
“Surviving R. Kelly” – Lifetime

http://tvcritics.org/the-television-critics-association-announces-2019-tca-award-nominations/
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This exposes the FRAUD this award is all about. A lying piece of trash.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ne-Yo gives his opinion on Michael Jackson and Leaving Neverland with Larry King <a href="https://t.co/xyXWOCuGah">pic.twitter.com/xyXWOCuGah</a></p>&mdash; JR (@jamster83) <a href="https://twitter.com/jamster83/status/1157724662085947394?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sheryl Crow: “I think he actually did not know my name”<br><br>Michael Jackson: <a href="https://t.co/xrfPyHAGzG">pic.twitter.com/xrfPyHAGzG</a></p>&mdash; JR (@jamster83) <a href="https://twitter.com/jamster83/status/1157706617942618113?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A note to celebs everywhere including Sheryl Crowe. Plugging Leaving Neverland does not make you relevant or woke. It makes you sound desperate, pathetic, sad and woefully ignorant. That bomb is a fast sinking ship. If you're still on it you're gonna drown fast.</p>&mdash; Raven Woods (@emailraven) <a href="https://twitter.com/emailraven/status/1157795381591400449?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thank you <a href="https://twitter.com/NeYoCompound?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NeYoCompound</a> for not being part of this sheep mentality and thinking for yourself. Takes a lot of courage in this atmosphere. &#128591;&#127997;<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FactsDontLiePeopleDo?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FactsDontLiePeopleDo</a> <a href="https://t.co/PUNdLFbcpn">https://t.co/PUNdLFbcpn</a></p>&mdash; Taj Jackson (@tajjackson3) <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3/status/1157822174914174976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Great thread&#128071;&#127997;. This is about keeping MJ’s name, who is no longer here to defend himself, in the news in order to distract from the other accused and alive famous names. Expect more lies and stories during this month as MJ’s birthday approaches. Still no facts or evidence &#128545; <a href="https://t.co/jXwgb56BA1">https://t.co/jXwgb56BA1</a></p>&mdash; Taj Jackson (@tajjackson3) <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3/status/1157753514619072513?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tajjackson3</a> &#10084;&#65039;&#10084;&#65039;&#10084;&#65039; <a href="https://t.co/cfe8ukPgEi">pic.twitter.com/cfe8ukPgEi</a></p>&mdash; loripetty (@loripetty) <a href="https://twitter.com/loripetty/status/1157021420854972416?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">1. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2 years ago!<br>&quot;But also this little kid who only wanted to hangout with little kids. It's like all of his development stopped in his teens&quot;.<br>Desperation &amp; relevancy indeed changes ones perception, specially when it's convenient to LIE! <a href="https://twitter.com/SherylCrow?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SherylCrow</a> Get a job! <a href="https://t.co/62JMDdBGci">pic.twitter.com/62JMDdBGci</a></p>&mdash; Nan Raghav (@NanRaghav) <a href="https://twitter.com/NanRaghav/status/1157686056000450565?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/THEKIDOFPOP?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#THEKIDOFPOP</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Kidofpop?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Kidofpop</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OtisPhoenix?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#OtisPhoenix</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeicesterSquare?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeicesterSquare</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/London?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#London</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/billiejean?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#billiejean</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/ThrillerLive?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ThrillerLive</a> &#127926;&#127926;&#127926; <a href="https://t.co/JcGeTe9ZFp">pic.twitter.com/JcGeTe9ZFp</a></p>&mdash; Kid of Pop &#127932; (@OtisPhoenix) <a href="https://twitter.com/OtisPhoenix/status/1157094911184986114?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">2. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">She's lying. She claims Safechuck was on the Bad Tour for the better half of the 18 months and she wondered where his parents were. Except it's in Safechuck's own lawsuit that it were 6 months (more like 3-4 because there was a break) and HIS MOTHER WAS ALWAYS THERE! <a href="https://t.co/s3sK0cxloK">pic.twitter.com/s3sK0cxloK</a></p>&mdash; Justice for The Falsely Accused (@JuliaBerkowitz1) <a href="https://twitter.com/JuliaBerkowitz1/status/1157568041410019328?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is the first class hypocrisy.... <br>I'm sad Michael worked with people like this ... <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/mjfam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#mjfam</a> <a href="https://t.co/kenaxZJLVP">https://t.co/kenaxZJLVP</a></p>&mdash; Emjay (@tjames_Debayo) <a href="https://twitter.com/tjames_Debayo/status/1157685133572526082?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tell her !!!!!! Brenda !!!! <a href="https://t.co/JvX7SxMobU">https://t.co/JvX7SxMobU</a></p>&mdash; Melanie321 (@Mellie4Justice) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mellie4Justice/status/1157852347260964864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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Well it seems as though the people who are determined to tarnish Michael’s legacy took some hits but now they are ready to start swinging again.

Presley and Crow in one week. Wow!

This is why we have to remain vigilant.

Now that the film has the right to call itself award-winning, it gives it some credibility (I have to say though - considering the films up for the award in that category, it is strange that LN would win!). We have to counter everything with facts AND show the world that we love and honor Michael.

As for Crow, her comments don’t surprise me. She blows with the wind. When it suits her the Bad tour experience was life changing. And when it doesn’t suit her the tour was not a good experience at all.

Oh yeah and Lance!
 
TheChosenOne;4265099 said:
Well it seems as though the people who are determined to tarnish Michael&#8217;s legacy took some hits but now they are ready to start swinging again.

Presley and Crow in one week. Wow!

This is why we have to remain vigilant.

Now that the film has the right to call itself award-winning, it gives it some credibility (I have to say though - considering the films up for the award in that category, it is strange that LN would win!). We have to counter everything with facts AND show the world that we love and honor Michael.

As for Crow, her comments don&#8217;t surprise me. She blows with the wind. When it suits her the Bad tour experience was life changing. And when it doesn&#8217;t suit her the tour was not a good experience at all.

Oh yeah and Lance!
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That lets u know someone big is behind this. Award winning trash and lies. As I said, Milli Vanilli won an award as well.
 
Please use the Edit Post button (looks like a pencil/crayon on mobile) located underneath your post if you want to add or change something. There is a lot of unnecessary clutter in this thread.
 
Anna said:
Please use the Edit Post button (looks like a pencil/crayon on mobile) located underneath your post if you want to add or change something. There is a lot of unnecessary clutter in this thread.
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Was this me
 
:angry:F:censored: you Sheryl Crow! That&#8217;s it! You&#8217;re going back into my H8T list!:angry:
 
This is freaking unbelieveable, how the hell can this go so far by letting this slandering and libelous fiction film win non-fiction awards? Isn't there a journalistic comission that can receive complaints from viewers and start investigation against Dan Reed for his manipulative content? And prohibit from winning any awards? And how can Sheryl Crow come away with her contradictive statements without receiving any retributions?

I have seen famous people got there career ruined like Michael Richards for making racist slurs in public.

But these people like Dan Greed and Devil Crow can make manipulative portaits and comments of Michael and Geragos and completely get away with it like it's the Gospel they are sharing. I just don't get it.

It seems like this is a lawful way to express hate and ignorance by making a film about a dead man in a angled and manipulative way and no one can stop you from it. And it makes me sick.
 
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This is freaking unbelieveable, how the hell can this go so far by letting this slandering and libelous fiction film win non-fiction awards? Isn't there a journalistic comission that can receive complaints from viewers and start investigation against Dan Reed for his manipulative content? And prohibit from winning any awards? And how can Sheryl Crow come away with her contradictive statements without receiving any retributions?

I have seen famous people got there career ruined like Michael Richards for making racist slurs in public.

But these people like Dan Greed and Devil Crow can make manipulative portaits and comments of Michael and Geragos and completely get away with it like it's the Gospel they are sharing. I just don't get it.

It seems like this is a lawful way to express hate and ignorance by making a film about a dead man in a angled and manipulative way and no one can stop you from it. And it makes me sick.
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It is so clear that there is an agenda. it wont work. Everyone just have to push back with facts and keep pushing and calling out these people. Watch Sheryl come out and say she was misunderstood. And what gets me why does these reporters keep asking celebs about MJ and this lying doc but no one else about other docs.
 
"They smiling in your face, all the time they want to take your place, the backstabbers." -The O'Jays

I'm not surprised by this. Michael's birthday is coming up, and it is to be expected. I just ignored these fools because I already know what type of people they are.
 
TheChosenOne;4265099 said:
Well it seems as though the people who are determined to tarnish Michael&#8217;s legacy took some hits but now they are ready to start swinging again.

Presley and Crow in one week. Wow!

This is why we have to remain vigilant.

Now that the film has the right to call itself award-winning, it gives it some credibility (I have to say though - considering the films up for the award in that category, it is strange that LN would win!). We have to counter everything with facts AND show the world that we love and honor Michael.

As for Crow, her comments don&#8217;t surprise me. She blows with the wind. When it suits her the Bad tour experience was life changing. And when it doesn&#8217;t suit her the tour was not a good experience at all.

Oh yeah and Lance!
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Ok but then you dig a hole for others you often fall into it yourself you know. MJs streamings are up 40% this year. He had over 1 billion streamings and it is August. That says a lot of what people really think so and what does that do for the credibility for that award show. The agenda is just to obvious and obviously considering his streamings etc people do see that.
 
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Ok but then you dig a hole for others you often fall into it yourself you know. MJs streamings are up 40% this year. He had over 1 billion streamings and it is August. That says a lot of what people really think so and what does that do for the credibility for that award show. The agenda is just to obvious and obviously considering his streamings etc people do see that.
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no one is paying attention to no award, Sheryl, or anyone else but us. And right now, people are concerned about these shootings. entertainment media knows this and still trying to push this trash. Sheryl allowed herself to be used. She getting an ear full. Again, she should have been clearer.
 
terrell said:
no one is paying attention to no award, Sheryl, or anyone else but us. And right now, people are concerned about these shootings. entertainment media knows this and still trying to push this trash. Sheryl allowed herself to be used. She getting an ear full. Again, she should have been clearer.
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Or better yet, she could've kept quiet, but that mouth will get you in trouble.

And yeah, these massive shootings are beyond out of control now. It's horrifying, but still, we can't let those terrorists get the best of us, and the media. I know they're already glorifying the suspects, and that's unacceptable.
 
Fans need wait and see what lisa has to say before thinking something else. i hope what she says about Michael is good. fans really need to calm down. i know this year about Michael has been a mess but half this stuff is not that serious.
 
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Or better yet, she could've kept quiet, but that mouth will get you in trouble.

And yeah, these massive shootings are beyond out of control now. It's horrifying, but still, we can't let those terrorists get the best of us, and the media. I know they're already glorifying the suspects, and that's unacceptable.
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I agree. See what happen to Tatum and she walked back on twitter with Taj and Jermaine. I want to hear what lavelle, Jennifer, Greg P, and others have to say if Sheryl comments get more exposed. I got a feeling she is going to say she was misquoted.
 
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