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Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

It's too bad Mesereau doesn't do civil because I pray the Estate will hire him to defend the liars' lawsuit. I'm listening to Scott Ross' podcast with the MJCast and that is what he said - he doesn't criminal only and Susan does civil.
 
La74;4259226 said:
First of all they don’t know the difference between the Jackson family and the Estate and second of all fans demanding proof?????????? What the *&#kr&* are they talking about? Fans from all over the world have done nothing that debunk this for months as the evidence are overwhelming that it is a fake.
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FTR, no REAL fan is asking for proof. WE already have proof that these fake accusers are liars and scam artists. The media is perpetuating a lie about “fans” asking for proof. Don’t fall for the BS, no FAN is asking for proof. Again, media bull$#@&.
 
I actally got into an augment the other day with a hater. they still beileve micheal still did that stuff even after reading and researching i gave them. it's best to just ignore trolls and haters. they loud. BUT WE ARE LOUDER.
 
NatureCriminal7896 said:
I actally got into an augment the other day with a hater. they still beileve micheal still did that stuff even after reading and researching i gave them. it's best to just ignore trolls and haters. they loud. BUT WE ARE LOUDER.[/QUOTEPeople like that just want to believe it either out of jealousy of MJ or they are hiding something in their own lives and need to project it onto others like MJ.
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NatureCriminal7896 said:
I actally got into an augment the other day with a hater. they still beileve micheal still did that stuff even after reading and researching i gave them. it's best to just ignore trolls and haters. they loud. BUT WE ARE LOUDER.
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people like that just want to believe it either out of jealousy of MJ or they are hiding something in their own lives and need to project it onto others like MJ​
 
terrell said:
people like that just want to believe it either out of jealousy of MJ or they are hiding something in their own lives and need to project it onto others like MJ​
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Exactly this. I honestly don't understand why some people so adamantly want Michael to be guilty. With the way a lot of people talk about celebrities, especially Michael, it seems like it comes down to people wanting to be bullies and seeing this as a "safe" way to do that. They could bully people they actually know and eventually get called out on it, or they could project that hate onto someone they see as a "safe" target that they'll never meet. (And plenty of people do both of those things, sadly.) It's a really unfortunate behavior pattern some people have.
 
What do I have to do to allow my account to make posts? I tried to make a post last night about a couple of my #IKnewLeavingNeverlandWasBS tweets and I see someone used the image I created on Twitter in their post this morning to talk about a potential MJ impostor in the movie but my post needed moderator approval. Ha, I'm not upset or anything but just trying to see why mine looks like it was denied or something. Do posts get denied often?
 
=Discovery Buys ‘Killing Michael Jackson’ Documentary for Its European Networks
Stewart Clarke
June 3, 2019 2:41AM PDT


“Killing Michael Jackson,” a one-off documentary that explores the circumstances around the death of the global pop icon, has been picked up by Discovery for its channels in international territories including the U.K. and Germany.

Discovery Networks will also run the one-hour documentary on its channels in Italy and the Nordics. In the U.K. it will play on its Quest Red free-to-air service. Jackson fans mounted a high-profile campaign and protested outside British broadcaster Channel 4’s headquarters in March ahead of its broadcast of “Leaving Neverland,” the controversial documentary about alleged sexual abuse by the late pop superstar.


“Killing Michael Jackson” features three U.S. detectives – Orlando Martinez, Dan Myers, and Scott Smith – who were part of the original investigation into the singer’s death in 2009. Doctor Conrad Murray, who was jailed for the involuntary manslaughter of Jackson, also features.

The documentary comes from U.K. indie producer Zig Zag. The producers said the detectives will re-examine Jackson’s death by reopening their official Los Angeles Police Department case files 10 years on, and promised new revelations and previously unseen archive footage.

Other international buyers of “Killing Michael Jackson” include Polsat Television in Poland, TVNZ in New Zealand, and Medialaan in Belgium.

“This film focuses on the intriguing circumstances surrounding Michael Jackson’s death, giving audiences a fascinating insight into the final moments of the pop star’s life and the criminal process that led to the arrest and conviction of Dr. Conrad Murray,” said Matt Graff, managing director of Zig Zag Productions.
 
Not about LN, but about one of gREEDs close associates who attacked MJ fans on Twitter after the LN TV screenings - LOL Karma:

Dundee ‘paedophile hunter’ Stinson Hunter left bloodied by attack in street

April 29, 2019, 10:09 am

An award-winning film maker was left bloodied after being attacked by a man who he tried to stop breaking into a taxi.

Stinson Hunter, 37, had confronted the male near Smith Street at around 10am on Saturday after spotting him allegedly urinating in his close.

He said: “He had initially come into my block and had been rapping a number of the doors.

“I’d gone out to see what the commotion was and saw urine in the block.

“He was messing about with the taxi and apologised for urinating in the close. He then disappeared into another block.

“I came back at around 1pm and decided to take his details still thinking he was a taxi driver.”

But it was at that point Stinson claims he was attacked.

The TV star added: “When it happened I gave chase towards the Cous Cous eatery but the guy had a curtain pole and a broom.”

A spokesman for the force said: “We are aware of the matter and will be making inquiries.”

Stinson Hunter is best known for his role in the documentary, The Paedophile Hunter.

The film, which investigates child sexual exploitation, was named Best Documentary on a Contemporary Theme at the British Documentary Awards.

Hunter’s personal challenges, such as serious past issues with drink and drugs and a prison term, have been well-documented in the press.

https://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/...son-hunter-left-bloodied-by-attack-in-street/
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Discovery to set a new Michael Jackson documentary <a href="https://t.co/qBPXdiyPyL">https://t.co/qBPXdiyPyL</a></p>&mdash; MJVibe (@Mjvibe) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mjvibe/status/1135499670145421314?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3. Juni 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mute Who? Relaxing at a beach resort in the remote pacific island of Rarotonga and this is the jam! The locals love MJ! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/mutewho?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#mutewho</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MuteOprah?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MuteOprah</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJFam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJFam</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a> <a href="https://t.co/mgg01Al1P6">pic.twitter.com/mgg01Al1P6</a></p>&mdash; Neverland Truther (@neverlandtruth) <a href="https://twitter.com/neverlandtruth/status/1135268647549644800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">2. Juni 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We will unite and Heal The World, don't you worry &#128521;</p>&mdash; Primark (@Primark) <a href="https://twitter.com/Primark/status/1134951496422952961?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">1. Juni 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Keeping that beat going with that moonwalk tho!! &#128514;&#128514;&#128293;&#128293;&#128517; <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a> <a href="https://t.co/bTTsn10jYk">pic.twitter.com/bTTsn10jYk</a></p>&mdash; Jonathan “Sugarfoot” Moffett (@jmoffettmjm) <a href="https://twitter.com/jmoffettmjm/status/1135598179997511681?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3. Juni 2019</a></blockquote>
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Does anyone here recall what connection the Safechuck family has to the State of New Mexico? ..
 
Everybody get ready for tomorrow. HBO responds and MJEstate set their campaign for micheal 10th anniversary passing
 
Hunter’s personal challenges, such as serious past issues with drink and drugs and a prison term, have been well-documented in the press.

So he has a proven past. As I say, these kinds of fools have demons and want to judge innocent MJ to make themselves feel good about their demons.​
 
Just as a little reminder, tommorow I will be in contact with the court - hoping to get updates on the revised defense by HBO.

I'll be periodically checking in with fellow fans to share what we know/or don't know :https://twitter.com/rasheedKOPV
 
JaD said:
What do I have to do to allow my account to make posts? I tried to make a post last night about a couple of my #IKnewLeavingNeverlandWasBS tweets and I see someone used the image I created on Twitter in their post this morning to talk about a potential MJ impostor in the movie but my post needed moderator approval. Ha, I'm not upset or anything but just trying to see why mine looks like it was denied or something. Do posts get denied often?
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Hello there. It wasn't denied, it's just that we're not always online to check the queue. Once you've made 10 posts you'll become a full member and you won't need post approval anymore.
 
This is so incredibly sad.

Due to disappointing ticket sales and lack of sponsors the European Jackson Event has been canceled. It's canceled forever now too.

****ing die Wade, James and Dan Reed. There I've said it now, no more mister nice guy. Goddamn them all. They've been holding this event for like 18 years and now... all of a sudden disappointing ticket sales and lack of sponsors.
 
Staffordshire Bullterrier said:
This is so incredibly sad.

Due to disappointing ticket sales and lack of sponsors the European Jackson Event has been canceled. It's canceled forever now too.

****ing die Wade, James and Dan Reed. There I've said it now, no more mister nice guy. Goddamn them all. They've been holding this event for like 18 years and now... all of a sudden disappointing ticket sales and lack of sponsors.
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Look at this way, 18 years is good run (and this is not like it is MJ himself at the event). Also, it just may have run it course. There are plenty others event still selling. When one door close, a another greater door open.
 
terrell said:
Look at this way, 18 years is good run (and this is not like it is MJ himself at the event). Also, it just may have run it course. There are plenty others event still selling. When one door close, a another greater door open.
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I wanna look at it that way, but I know for sure a lot of "fans" immediately stopped being "fans" when this filth aired on TV. 2014 was the last time they had this event and it was coming back this year. I'm most definitely blaming these assholes for it.

You're right though, 18 years IS a damn good run.
 
Staffordshire Bullterrier said:
I wanna look at it that way, but I know for sure a lot of "fans" immediately stopped being "fans" when this filth aired on TV. 2014 was the last time they had this event and it was coming back this year. I'm most definitely blaming these assholes for it.

You're right though, 18 years IS a damn good run.
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Well if any so called fan stop being fans over this proven lies then they were NEVER Fans from the start. Too much have proven this trash to be lies. If anyone was a fan through 1993, 2005, this trash should be nothing to dismissed. Anyway, it has effected nothing in my area; if fact, it is like it helped MJ be played more and MJ ONE (tribute) is coming and selling good for this area to be three months away (in July/August is when shows really sell here no matter who it is)
 
terrell;4259311 said:
Well if any so called fan stop being fans over this proven lies then they were NEVER Fans from the start. Too much have proven this trash to be lies. If anyone was a fan through 1993, 2005, this trash should be nothing to dismissed. Anyway, it has effected nothing in my area; if fact, it is like it helped MJ be played more and MJ ONE (tribute) is coming and selling good for this area to be three months away (in July/August is when shows really sell here no matter who it is)
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Thank you!! Any so-called “fan” who stopped being a “fan” because of this bull$#@& was never a real fan anyway. They were bandwagon “fans”. I say good riddance to anyone who is too weak to see this crap and these liars fir what they are. Anyone stupid, yes stupid, enough to believe this BS with all of the debunking and evidence against this scam is pathetic. Ftr, I have heard Michael played more than ever and more people becoming fans since this LN crap. In my area, workplace, friends, and surroundings NO ONE has mentioned the fraudomentary or the scam artists. The media has done everything in their power to turn the public against Michael and it has not worked. In fact, it has brought people together who otherwise would not have even been a Michael supporter in the past. Finally, 18 years is a good run for ANY artist, and especially good for someone who is no longer here. Don’t allow the media or others to manipulate you into thinking otherwise.
 
Staffordshire Bullterrier;4259310 said:
I wanna look at it that way, but I know for sure a lot of "fans" immediately stopped being "fans" when this filth aired on TV. 2014 was the last time they had this event and it was coming back this year. I'm most definitely blaming these assholes for it.

You're right though, 18 years IS a damn good run.
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I&#8217;m not so sure it has anything to do with that. Cirque du soleil mj one has been doing really well and this event had not been done since 2014. Also if it had been going on for 18 years it should have been going on in the middle of the trial. A lot of fans including myself has been a lot more active than we have been in years because of this LN thing and the people who said they stopped beeing fans were not real fans to begin with. I have also read quite a few people on twitter who actually said they became fans because they did research after LN and realized how much MJ had to go through.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Michael Jackson Estate has a link that will be live in mid June, so you can post your <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HonorMJ?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HonorMJ</a> pictures, which will be added to a worldwide photo mosaic. (Link not live until mid June.). <a href="https://t.co/qCS8fhLYPL">https://t.co/qCS8fhLYPL</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HonorMJ?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HonorMJ</a> <a href="https://t.co/uZjuNyA23K">pic.twitter.com/uZjuNyA23K</a></p>&mdash; andjustice4some (@andjustice4some) <a href="https://twitter.com/andjustice4some/status/1135909059620511744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. Juni 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hey <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJFAM?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJFAM</a> ! New York is certainly not muting <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/michaeljackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#michaeljackson</a> ! I was on Broadway and finally saw the billboard facing Phantom of the Opera musical venue. <a href="https://t.co/U8vS9BYO1i">pic.twitter.com/U8vS9BYO1i</a></p>&mdash; Shenwalker (@RetroShen) <a href="https://twitter.com/RetroShen/status/1135481295935614977?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3. Juni 2019</a></blockquote>
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&#9888; STATEMENT REGARDING THE DOCUMENTARY "THE MAN BEHIND THE DANCE"

Due to the fact we're still working on the project "The Man Behind The Dance" - adding videos from my personal collection and Michael Jackson's fans contributions, we would like to inform that we're committed to bring our best to honor the King of Pop.

This is a non-profit project and we expect to release it on June 25th, the date of 10th anniversary of Michael Jackson's passing.

Instead of making this a sad date I wonder I could share some of my memories and join you, fans around the world, celebrating the beautiful legacy of the greatest entertainer this world has ever seen.

Please, spread the word and stay tuned on my social media channels and also on: www.themanbehindthedance.com
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In honour of Michael Jackson’s Humanitarian efforts, the full documentary “Humanitarian - The Real Michael Jackson” will be LIVE on our YouTube &amp; Facebook page on June 25 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJFam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJFam</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HumanitarianMJ?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HumanitarianMJ</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RIPMJ?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RIPMJ</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Kingofpop?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Kingofpop</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HonorMJ?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HonorMJ</a> <a href="https://t.co/7PeI0UTSoS">pic.twitter.com/7PeI0UTSoS</a></p>&mdash; Humanitarian Book (@HumanitarianMJ) <a href="https://twitter.com/HumanitarianMJ/status/1135509022801448960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3. Juni 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Join Michael Jackson fans around the world to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HonorMJ?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HonorMJ</a> through acts of kindness and selflessness to continue his legacy of making the world a better place. Check out the Spotlight Story for details. <a href="https://t.co/lThWVjppHc">https://t.co/lThWVjppHc</a></p>&mdash; Michael Jackson (@michaeljackson) <a href="https://twitter.com/michaeljackson/status/1135964568545648646?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. Juni 2019</a></blockquote>
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terrell;4259307 said:
Look at this way, 18 years is good run (and this is not like it is MJ himself at the event). Also, it just may have run it course. There are plenty others event still selling. When one door close, a another greater door open.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tickets for KINGVENTION, the Michael Jackson Convention,are going fast! Make sure you get yours as soon as possible!<a href="https://t.co/iJX3K3Yc4D">https://t.co/iJX3K3Yc4D</a> <a href="https://t.co/pEcWE8dr4F">pic.twitter.com/pEcWE8dr4F</a></p>&mdash; MJVibe (@Mjvibe) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mjvibe/status/1135799774035283968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">4. Juni 2019</a></blockquote>
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Staffordshire Bullterrier said:
I wanna look at it that way, but I know for sure a lot of "fans" immediately stopped being "fans" when this filth aired on TV. 2014 was the last time they had this event and it was coming back this year. I'm most definitely blaming these assholes for it.

You're right though, 18 years IS a damn good run.
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I very much doubt it. The fan community is growing up. Many hardcore fans went to such events for years/decades but they are getting old have families and responsibilities of their own now. Nothing lasts forever.this case has been going since 2013. Such fans are educated and know the facts. If any newbies suddenly decided to not go because they arent educated and believe anything then i doubt they would have still be going to such events in the long run anyway.
 
Thriller Live is still going strong, Cirque Du Soleil is still selling out, the MJ impersonation show at the other hotel in Vegas is still going. I have never even heard of this European Jackson event.
 
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