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Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

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john13th said:
She was in at least one of the concerts. And Janet was also there too with her. It can be seen in this clip from Private Home Movies starting at 26:04:

It is during the European Tour for sure. Because you can see in the stage those stairs in the background behind Michael and the dancers. The US tour did have different stage, with no stairs but rather ramps that surrounded the musicians. Which date is unsure but I have heard it's from the concert in Hannover, Germany September 2th 1988.
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I believe Katherine was also there in Leeds, Janet was there with her in Leeds, while LaToya was there with her in Hannover.
 
I'm a little bit deprerate now after I have read Wades comleate testimony from 2005 and realize that it is not really possible to vindicate Michael from Wads accusations.

The problem is that when you are sure that Wade is lying that Michael did molest him you must take Wades COMPLEATE long testimony from the 2005 under oath as the truth!
There he unfortanatly mentions all this sleepovers alone with Michael often together with him in the bed on all this occasions he mentions also in LN.

Noone in 2005 did proove or discredit that this sleepovers did not taken place like Wade described it there.
No Michael was on the stand who said that Wade is lying at any place in his testimony and I also can't read between the lines that he instructed Tom M. to attack or descredit anything about how the sleepovers did taken place or where.

Sadly noone ask Wade there if MJ would spend the whole night in the bed with him or if he would leave the bed and slept somewhere else.
This would have been an important question to ask.

With the testimony from 2005 in the back you can't really go against Wades accusations of LN and disproove them.
 
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ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona said:
I'm a little bit deprerate now after I have read Wades comleate testimony from 2005 and realize that it is not really possible to vindicate Michael from Wads accusations.

The problem is that when you are sure that Wade is lying that Michael did molest him you must take Wades COMPLEATE long testimony from the 2005 under oath as the truth!
There he unfortanatly mentions all this sleepovers alone with Michael often together with him in the bed on all this occasions he menions also in LN.

Cause noone in 2005 did proove or discredit that this sleepovers did not taken place like Wade described it there.
No Michael was on the stand who said that Wade is lying at any place in his testimony and I also can't read between the lines that he instructed Tom M. to attack or descredit anything about how the sleepovers did taken place or where.

Sadly noone ask Wade there if MJ would spend the whole night in the bed with him or if he would leave the bed and slept somewhere else.
This would have been an important question to ask.
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Robson was asked multiple times in multiple ways by the prosecutors if Michael ever touched him inappropriately, and he said 'No'. You can also find that in the 2005 testimony.

So-called 'witnesses' to touching from among Neverland staff were also discredited.

PS That recent 'Estate Press Release' (on FB and posted here a couple of pages ago) wasn't from the Estate. They say it was from 'other supporters of Michael's Legacy'.
 
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myosotis said:
Robson was asked multiple times in multiple ways by the prosecutors if Michael ever touched him inappropriately, and he said 'No'. You can also find that in the 2005 testimony.

So-called 'witnesses' to touching from among Neverland staff were also discredited.
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Yeah his testimony of 2005 is absolutly powerful and convincing.
I am sure that the most real victims would not survive this hard crossexaminations.
But with this testimony in the back you can not debunk the molestations because you can't debunk with it the many sleepovers alone with Michael in one room on all this occasions.

Do you know what I mean?
 
i saw on twitter a week ago or so that there is a proof that joy got interviewd for LN also with a big time difference. just like james made the fake ring scene 17 months later, joy also had some similar late interview... is that true??
 
Glanni said:
i saw on twitter a week ago or so that there is a proof that joy got interviewd for LN also with a big time difference. just like james made the fake ring scene 17 months later, joy also had some similar late interview... is that true??
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Yes, she has a different hair cut when she was interviewed for the Grand Canyon story.
 
Glanni said:
i saw on twitter a week ago or so that there is a proof that joy got interviewd for LN also with a big time difference. just like james made the fake ring scene 17 months later, joy also had some similar late interview... is that true??
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Hm.... I know that th guy from "Collective Learning" who proved in a good video that the interviews with Wade and James was filmed in many takes wanted also analysis the interviews with the family members.
But this did not happen til this day.

Someone pointed out that you can also see that James interviews were filmed in many takes on different days on the fact that he sometimes wears an white undershirt and sometimes not.
 
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Glanni said:
i saw on twitter a week ago or so that there is a proof that joy got interviewd for LN also with a big time difference. just like james made the fake ring scene 17 months later, joy also had some similar late interview... is that true??
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She was definitely filmed at two moments. I do not think we know whether a lot of time passed between those moments though.

What's interesting is that all shots except one seem to come from the same interview. Only when she talks about leaving Wade behind to go to the Grand Canyon, do we see shots from a second interview (we can tell because her haircut, the lighting and the camera angles are all slightly different).

I tweeted some side-by-side comparisons here:
https://twitter.com/SoCav_/status/1114649131753115654
 
SoCav said:
She was definitely filmed at two moments. I do not think we know whether a lot of time passed between those moments though.

What's interesting is that all shots except one seem to come from the same interview. Only when she talks about leaving Wade behind to go to the Grand Canyon, do we see shots from a second interview (we can tell because her haircut, the lighting and the camera angles are all slightly different).

I tweeted some side-by-side comparisons here:
https://twitter.com/SoCav_/status/1114649131753115654
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Did all the familymembers always wear the same clothings?
 
ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona said:
I'm a little bit deprerate now after I have read Wades comleate testimony from 2005 and realize that it is not really possible to vindicate Michael from Wads accusations.

The problem is that when you are sure that Wade is lying that Michael did molest him you must take Wades COMPLEATE long testimony from the 2005 under oath as the truth!
There he unfortanatly mentions all this sleepovers alone with Michael often together with him in the bed on all this occasions he mentions also in LN.

Noone in 2005 did proove or discredit that this sleepovers did not taken place like Wade described it there.
No Michael was on the stand who said that Wade is lying at any place in his testimony and I also can't read between the lines that he instructed Tom M. to attack or descredit anything about how the sleepovers did taken place or where.

Sadly noone ask Wade there if MJ would spend the whole night in the bed with him or if he would leave the bed and slept somewhere else.
This would have been an important question to ask.

With the testimony from 2005 in the back you can't really go against Wades accusations of LN and disproove them.
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Plus there is plenty of PUBLIC record of Wade defending MJ even before and after the 2005 trial. No one defends anyone that much if something had happen. And no one will put someone to be their first witnesses if he/she abused them. Again, MJ investigation went BEYOND the call of duty. These guys were also interviewed during the investigation alone.
 
myosotis;4254910 said:
PS That recent 'Estate Press Release' (on FB and posted here a couple of pages ago) wasn't from the Estate. They say it was from 'other supporters of Michael's Legacy'.
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Yup.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Urgent! The Statement that is being passed on as &quot;New Statement from the Michael Jackson Estate&quot; is NOT made by the Estate. Here is the confirmation Email from Alicia to Pez when he enquired. Truthfully I thought it sounded a bit weird myself <a href="https://t.co/gj5pD9EGbc">pic.twitter.com/gj5pD9EGbc</a></p>&mdash; Maria Hassell (@MeYouUsMJFAM) <a href="https://twitter.com/MeYouUsMJFAM/status/1117115572716756993?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 13, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Glad to know it wasn't real as it seemed many were put off by it.
 
terrell said:
Plus there is plenty of PUBLIC record of Wade defending MJ even before and after the 2005 trial. No one defends anyone that much if something had happen. And no one will put someone to be their first witnesses if he/she abused them. Again, MJ investigation went BEYOND the call of duty. These guys were also interviewed during the investigation alone.
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Thats all right. But all this many sleepoves on the different occasions alone with michael in one room in one bed did indeed happen according to the testimony what makes absolutly difficult to proove that the molestations did not happen, when you belive that Wade told the truth in 2005.
 
Paris78;4254800 said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Michael Jackson's British goddaughter says he is innocent of sex abuse <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/leavingneverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#leavingneverland</a> <a href="https://t.co/ghNxhKXNLw">https://t.co/ghNxhKXNLw</a></p>&mdash; Flora - #MJInnocent #factsdontliepeopledo (@ijcsly_mj) <a href="https://twitter.com/ijcsly_mj/status/1116800247102152705?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">12. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="pt" dir="ltr">Lisa Presley curtiu o tweet de pessoas defendo o Michael aaaaa&#128525;&#128525;&#128525;&#128525;&#128525;&#128525;&#128557;&#128557;&#128557;&#128557;&#10084;&#65039;&#10084;&#65039;&#10084;&#65039;&#10084;&#65039;&#10084;&#65039; amo uma mulher <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> <a href="https://t.co/aqex6HRKg1">pic.twitter.com/aqex6HRKg1</a></p>&mdash; Niandra lades é a Agente Rusbé (@ImOkmichael) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImOkmichael/status/1116799495969411073?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">12. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Breitbart News is reporting on it...BREITBART!<a href="https://t.co/3W6KOq5r5P">https://t.co/3W6KOq5r5P</a></p>&mdash; Shavine Hill (@hill_shavine) <a href="https://twitter.com/hill_shavine/status/1116803617833594880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">12. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thanks for having me. <a href="https://t.co/cWywPJe39I">https://t.co/cWywPJe39I</a></p>&mdash; Liam McEwan (@LiamMcEwan) <a href="https://twitter.com/LiamMcEwan/status/1116533298237325313?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">12. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You mean the same Sundance that rushed a last minute, false movie about Michael Jackson through to its 2019 lineup? <a href="https://t.co/mirPSsrvz4">pic.twitter.com/mirPSsrvz4</a></p>&mdash; Pez Jax (@Pezjax) <a href="https://twitter.com/Pezjax/status/1116610839136485378?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">12. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">History will remember where we all stood at times of conflict and controversy. Peace to the genius that is David LaChapelle. <a href="https://t.co/1le4OgpuHt">pic.twitter.com/1le4OgpuHt</a></p>&mdash; Samar @TheMJAP (@TheMJAP) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheMJAP/status/1116801556215750656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">12. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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Breitbart News reporting in support of Michael I am for sure has a political aspect to it and they are using this as a tool.
Watch when there is that one lie that they can’t dispute which throws their appeals in the trash or even an admission that is caught on tape, the right wing and Trump are going to use this as a chess piece to prove the left wing media are fake news.
People are going to be skeptical of their news and what they are reporting which can also affect the next presidential election.
 
ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona said:
Thats all right. But all this many sleepoves on the different occasions alone with michael in one room in one bed did indeed happen according to the testimony what makes absolutly difficult to proove that the molestations did not happen, when you belive that Wade told the truth in 2005.
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What many sleepovers in ONE bed? It has been proven that Wade was only at Neverland 14 times. Michael was only there 10 of those times. Therefore, Wade and his MOTHER were only there when Michael was there FOUR times. Where are the MANY sleepovers? Joy and Chantal claim they ALL would fall asleep on the bed after watching movies and playing games.
Did I miss some new revelation?
 
terrell;4254918 said:
Plus there is plenty of PUBLIC record of Wade defending MJ even before and after the 2005 trial. No one defends anyone that much if something had happen. And no one will put someone to be their first witnesses if he/she abused them. Again, MJ investigation went BEYOND the call of duty. These guys were also interviewed during the investigation alone.
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Exactly. Michael would have never allowed in a million years for Wade to be their first witness, if he had abused him even one time; let alone the 100s of time that ROBson claimed. Some things just take rational thinking and common sense. ROBson told the truth in 2005. He is lying now. There is no debate about that. Btw, let&#8217;s not forget that Brandi was with Wade,basically the entire time that ROBson claimed he was molested every day. YES, we can prove that ROBson was NOT molested every day 100&#8217;s of times, because he was not with Michael 100&#8217;s of times. Does ROBson claim in his testimony that he was at Neverland 100&#8217;s of times? The answer is NO! That&#8217;s the proof that ROBson is a liar and nullifies anything else, and that&#8217;s the bottomline, pure and simple.
 
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ksat9;4254931 said:
Breitbart News reporting in support of Michael I am for sure has a political aspect to it and they are using this as a tool.
Watch when there is that one lie that they can&#8217;t dispute which throws their appeals in the trash or even an admission that is caught on tape, the right wing and Trump are going to use this as a chess piece to prove the left wing media are fake news.
People are going to be skeptical of their news and what they are reporting which can also affect the next presidential election.
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Trump has his dirt but he aint lying about Fake media. They can not blame Trump for pointing it out.They proved it with this one including Oprah. if u will do it MJ, you will do it to someone else u want to bring down. I like Carli B but Carli B admitted on tape (and she confirmed it) she robbed and drugged men for money just 3 years ago and the metoo movement activist not even Gloria Alred said or did anything and people are pointing that out and not even trying to ban her music. Phoney folks.
 
terrell;4254918 said:
Plus there is plenty of PUBLIC record of Wade defending MJ even before and after the 2005 trial. No one defends anyone that much if something had happen. And no one will put someone to be their first witnesses if he/she abused them. Again, MJ investigation went BEYOND the call of duty. These guys were also interviewed during the investigation alone.
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All you have to do is bring up his lawsuit that he is trying to appeal to expose him of his lies.
-He says it’s all about survivors of sexual abuse and not money yet
1) he first filed under seal hoping for a quiet settlement which is why we even know about his “story”
2) he pressured Jonathan Spence so hard to the point where his lawyer called Wade and Finaldi basically bullies
-he was caught lying about shopping for a book deal BEFORE he even filed a lawsuit.
-He literally put in a story of abuse that involves his mom that she denied ever happen
- there is even question about his first moment of abuse because his mom in 93,05, and 16 during his lawsuit stated that they all went to the Grand Canyon
-he lied about not knowing of the estate yet he was begging for a job that involves the estate
-he claims that he remembered everything yet was caught in his emails asking his mom questions because his memory was not that great
-he changed his story for why he testified in 05 at least 3 times
And this is just a little bit of his lies exposed.

100% of the world will never believe Michael is completely innocent because they will never understand his lifestyle nor use logic to try to understand it. They literally hate him so much to the point where they want him to be guilty.
People are using mental gymnastics and are outright making things up to try and prove that he is guilty even though none of it makes sense

My goal is to show starting with these two (because they are recent) to the people who are in the middle that they have lied and that he has been falsely accused.
 
somewhereinthedark;4254933 said:
Exactly. Michael would have never allowed in a million years for Wade to be their first witness, if he had abused him even one time; let alone the 100s of time that ROBson claimed. Some things just take rational thinking and common sense. ROBson told the truth in 2005. He is lying now. There is no debate about that. Btw, let’s not forget that Brandi was with Wade,basically the entire time that ROBson claimed he was molested every day. YES, we can prove that ROBson was NOT molested every day 100’s of times, because he was not with Michael 100’s of times. Does ROBson claim in his testimony that he was at Neverland 100’s of times? The answer is NO! That’s the proof that ROBson is a liar and nullifies anything else, and that’s the bottomline, pure and simple.
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Not only that
-his mom did an interview years ago basically saying Michael was barely around in the beginning and that they had to fend for themselves when they first moved out to the US.
-one of the times he was in Michael’s room Brandi was there and he even mentioned it.
-Also Scott Ross said he can literally prove that his reason for testifying is a lie and we still haven’t seen a subpoena from him.
 
terrell;4254934 said:
Trump has his dirt but he aint lying about Fake media. They can not blame Trump for pointing it out.They proved it with this one including Oprah. if u will do it MJ, you will do it to someone else u want to bring down. I like Carli B but Carli B admitted on tape (and she confirmed it) she robbed and drugged men for money just 3 years ago and the metoo movement activist not even Gloria Alred said or did anything and people are pointing that out and not even trying to ban her music. Phoney folks.
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All of this.
I saw people trying to use mental gymnastics and giving excuses for Cardi.
They are hypocrites and fake ass people who pick and choose who to stand behind.
When it came out that Le Moonves did all be can to sabotage Janet’s career because she didn’t do what he wanted it was crickets outside of the fans.
I didn’t see a lick of a MeToo activist or feminist activist stand behind her.
I noticed it years ago and told everyone that those people in Hollywood are some fake ass people who are using these social justice movements for money and career revivals.

I can bet every single republican will point out all of this and there will be nothing that they can do about it.
Trump will have a field day and they can’t do nothing about it because it will be the truth.
Also watch him get the independents in his next election or people not even show to vote.
 
ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona said:
Thats all right. But all this many sleepoves on the different occasions alone with michael in one room in one bed did indeed happen according to the testimony what makes absolutly difficult to proove that the molestations did not happen, when you belive that Wade told the truth in 2005.
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Here's something we all need to remember: you can't 100% prove that something did not happen. That's getting into a Russell's Teapot scenario. (Read about that here if you're not familiar: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Russell's_Teapot ) Now, I, like all of us here, absolutely do not think Michael is guilty, but it's important to keep Russell's Teapot in mind when discussing this with people who think he is guilty or say they aren't sure. We can (and have) thoroughly debunk the claims made in LN, but it's impossible to prove for an absolute fact that something did not happen.

As for the sleepovers, those don't prove anything happened, other than that Michael may not have had the best judgment when it comes to how people would interpret these things. Like he always talked about, people want to make things sexual when they aren't. (And I don't want to derail this too much, but like I've mentioned before, Mark Twain did something very similar back in his day, sharing a bed with unrelated kids even though people thought it looked bad.)
 
ksat9;4254935 said:
All you have to do is bring up his lawsuit that he is trying to appeal to expose him of his lies.
-He says it’s all about survivors of sexual abuse and not money yet
1) he first filed under seal hoping for a quiet settlement which is why we even know about his “story”
2) he pressured Jonathan Spence so hard to the point where his lawyer called Wade and Finaldi basically bullies
-he was caught lying about shopping for a book deal BEFORE he even filed a lawsuit.
-He literally put in a story of abuse that involves his mom that she denied ever happen
- there is even question about his first moment of abuse because his mom in 93,05, and 16 during his lawsuit stated that they all went to the Grand Canyon
-he lied about not knowing of the estate yet he was begging for a job that involves the estate
-he claims that he remembered everything yet was caught in his emails asking his mom questions because his memory was not that great
-he changed his story for why he testified in 05 at least 3 times
And this is just a little bit of his lies exposed.

100% of the world will never believe Michael is completely innocent because they will never understand his lifestyle nor use logic to try to understand it. They literally hate him so much to the point where they want him to be guilty.
People are using mental gymnastics and are outright making things up to try and prove that he is guilty even though none of it makes sense

My goal is to show starting with these two (because they are recent) to the people who are in the middle that they have lied and that he has been falsely accused.
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Exactly. As for people, I think good thinking people can see through the lies; as for others, anyone who desire someone to be guilty of abuse speaks volume about their mental. I often say people like that want MJ to be do so because of other agendas. And when I hear people say "the fall of your hero", that tell me those people are jealous of MJ and the success he had or jealous a black man outdid someone they liked or being a great success and MJ did not live by their rules.
 
ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona said:
Thats all right. But all this many sleepoves on the different occasions alone with michael in one room in one bed did indeed happen according to the testimony what makes absolutly difficult to proove that the molestations did not happen, when you belive that Wade told the truth in 2005.
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Maybe this is going over my head, but I don't see where this makes any difference. We already know there were sleepovers where Wade spent the night. It's been proved that he was there only four times when Michael was there. He's said he shared a bed with Chantal there, he was with Brandi there, and once with Jordan and Mac, too.
All that means is there were sleepovers. Those aren't a crime.
What disproves is are the very specific questions that he was asked at the trial. Did Michael touch you. Yes. Did Michael kiss you? Yes. Did he kiss you on the mouth. No. Did he kiss you on the cheek? Yes. Did he touch you on your crotch? No. Not even to show you when you were dancing. No. And on and on. VERY SPECIFIC.
He said no to anything that was sexual.
 
You really have to read all Wades compleate testimony from 2005 to understand what I try to tell you.

http://www.reflectionsonthedance.com/05-05-05__Motions_Wade___Brett_.txt

Where is it prooven that Wade was only four times with Michael in Neverland?

He is talking about around 20 times he was with Michael in Neverland and does not say how many sleepovers did all of this 20 times include.

He said that Chantal NEVER slept in Michaels room with him after the first trip to the USA.
He is talking about only ONE night he spend with Michael and Brandi.
He is talking about only ONE night he spend together with Michael, Jordan and Mac.
All the other nights in Neverland and in MJs apartments he said he spend ALONE with Michael mostly together in his bed.
He said also that this sleepovers together with Michael did happen when he was 7 til 14.

But please read the COMPLEATE testimony yourself.

You have to scroll a lot in the document til you are there.

Bretts testimony is also a good idea to read which comes directly after Wades.
I haven't read Joys testimony from 2005 yet.
But I will do his to see if it disprooves anything what Wade says in his.
 
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ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona;4254950 said:
You really have to read all Wades compleate testimony from 2005 to understand what I try to tell you.

http://www.reflectionsonthedance.com/05-05-05__Motions_Wade___Brett_.txt

Where is it prooven that Wade was only four times with Michael in Neverland?

He is talking about around 20 times he was with Michael in Neverland and does not say how many sleepovers did all of this 20 times include.

He said that Chantal NEVER slept in Michaels room with him after the first trip to the USA.
He is talking about only ONE night he spend with Michael and Brandi.
He is talking about only ONE night he spend together with Michael, Jordan and Mac.
All the other nights in Neverland and in MJs apartment he said he spend ALONE with Michael mostly together in his bed.
He said also that this sleepovers together with Michael did happen when he was 7 til 14.

But please read the COMPLEATE testimony yourself.

You have to scroll a lot in the document til you are there.

Bretts testimny is also a good idea to read which comes directly after Wades.
I haven't read Joys testimony from 2005 yet.
But I will do his to see if it disprooves anything what Wade says in his.
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Hmmm! Am I the only one giving this post the &#8220;side eye&#8221;? Please tell me that I am not the only one who is skeptical &#55358;&#56616;.
 
somewhereinthedark;4254954 said:
Hmmm! Am I the only one giving this post the “side eye”? Please tell me that I am not the only one who is skeptical &#65533;&#65533;.
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Read it yourself because you should also see and know how absoult convincing and strong Wade denys any sexual contact with Michael over this loooong hard absolutly challangeing crossexaminations.
 
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What I reconized is that Wade says in 2005 that on the first trip the family went direcly back to Austrailia after the time in Neverland but in LN they are saying after the time in Neverland they also spend time with Michael in LA.

So the additional time in LA is maybe something that a estate lowyer can attack and prooven as untrue.
 
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