Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

[ozemouze]

They are nowhere cause it is very clear that Reed forced them to make up new stories for his NAMBLA fantasy movie which didn't appear in their lawsuits and are now prooven false and let him fight now alone the battle he had caused himself!

I think so too, and now as a result we have the train station time travel among others.

 

[Paris78]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’ll say it again, Germany is on point as usual.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FactsDontLiePeopleDo?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FactsDontLiePeopleDo</a> <a href="https://t.co/tkpoHCDdYu">https://t.co/tkpoHCDdYu</a></p>&mdash; Ryan Michaels (@ReasonBound) <a href="https://twitter.com/ReasonBound/status/1115545406333542400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">9. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">To the day I cannot understand how anyone in their right mind would do a documentary on two proven LIARS! There are real victims of sexual child abuse who would have shown a real light on the situation. Instead Michael, who’s been proven INNOCENT was again used to DESTROY HIM&#128545;</p>&mdash; Brenda Harvey Richie (@BrendaRichie) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrendaRichie/status/1115414532124319744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">9. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">MJ advocates please follow <a href="https://twitter.com/TheTrialsOfMJ05?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheTrialsOfMJ05</a>. Today we start our journey to get The Trials of Michael Jackson which exposes the media agenda against MJ on Netflix!</p>&mdash; Cherrelle (@Happychick93) <a href="https://twitter.com/Happychick93/status/1115402799104372736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">8. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Aerial photographs from August 1993 demonstrate conclusively that the station was not there. <a href="https://t.co/ky8z7W6OxU">https://t.co/ky8z7W6OxU</a></p>&mdash; Charles Thomson (@CEThomson) <a href="https://twitter.com/CEThomson/status/1115651918322388992?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">9. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is why Michael “loved to tour”...so he could visit hospitals and orphanages around the world. I only saw compassion, love and innocence also. He had the ability to bring moments of joy to suffering children and did as much as he could. <a href="https://t.co/mn88RYYH5U">https://t.co/mn88RYYH5U</a></p>&mdash; Karen Faye (@wingheart) <a href="https://twitter.com/wingheart/status/1115657832471252992?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">9. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Never underestimate the power of the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJFam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJFam</a> in intellect, creativity and wit. <a href="https://t.co/vK7Fb2ITHH">https://t.co/vK7Fb2ITHH</a></p>&mdash; andjustice4some (@andjustice4some) <a href="https://twitter.com/andjustice4some/status/1115673188048834562?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">9. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">They've labelled his sexual abuse accusers as &quot;opportunists.&quot; <a href="https://t.co/0OoRvGnD6f">https://t.co/0OoRvGnD6f</a></p>&mdash; 9Honey Celebrity (@9HoneyCelebrity) <a href="https://twitter.com/9HoneyCelebrity/status/1115095232994004992?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">8. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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[gerryevans]

Ok thank you for the info..... what is with the other guy who is quoted about the trainstation in the article?

I've got the book. Bill met Michael for the first time December 2006, and Javon a week or so later. They'd be incensed if they knew they were being lied about. They truly loved MJ and are two of his staunchest supporters.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Updated train station article in answer to this latest idiotic argument by tabloids.

themichaeljacksonallegations.com/2019/03/30/safechuck-alleges-sexual-abuse-at-a-train-station-that-did-not-even-exist-at-the-time/

 

[MJPoetryFan]

Was Jimmy interviewed by authorities when he was first accused in 93 and did they interview him in 2003?

 

[ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona]

Updated train station article in answer to this latest idiotic argument by tabloids.

themichaeljacksonallegations.com/2019/03/30/safechuck-alleges-sexual-abuse-at-a-train-station-that-did-not-even-exist-at-the-time/

This is a great article about the train station!

https://themichaeljacksonallegation...-station-that-did-not-even-exist-at-the-time/

Please share it under the sutpid articles from the Sun and the Mirror to make a complete fool out of them!

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

Stephen Amell (the actor from Arrow) asked on Twitter if he needs to watch part 2 of LN, because it might be the worst thing that's ever happened to him. Taj responds saying he's a major fan, that he hopes he will take 30 minutes of his time to dig deeper. He says he's a charitable and fair guy etc. Major lies have been uncovered in the film.

Hopefully Stephen does exactly that. I want to help out a little as well. What right now is the best thing to read/watch that won't take up hours of your time, but does cover a lot?

 

[PoP]

Great news guys! HBO pulls the plug on "Leaving Neverland" for good!

https://www.rhymeswithsnitch.com/2019/04/hbo-pulls-plug-on-leaving-neverland.html?spref=tw

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

Great news guys! HBO pulls the plug on "Leaving Neverland" for good!

https://www.rhymeswithsnitch.com/2019/04/hbo-pulls-plug-on-leaving-neverland.html?spref=tw

This is really true?

 

[PoP]

This is really true?

Yes. It was confirmed. Originally they're having it run until September, but now they just recently pulled the plug.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yes It is confirmed. It was On Demand until yesterday.</p>&mdash; KerryWard (@FallAgainMJ) <a href="https://twitter.com/FallAgainMJ/status/1115687690182299649?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 9, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Big Apple NYC]

Great news guys! HBO pulls the plug on "Leaving Neverland" for good!

I saw that on Twitter early this morning, but wasn't sure if it was true or not. NOW WE HAVE CONFIRMATION!!!!!!!

It was supposed to be ON DEMAND until September 2019, but now it will be taken off of On Demand this week. Great News!

HBO played themselves, and just because they aren't saying anything, does not mean they don't know about EVERYTHING that is going on in the Real World.

I'm also WONDERING if the reason HBO removed the "mockumentary" so quickly, has anything to do with the Estate's lawsuit??

 

[ksat9]

Again, look who is talking TABLOIDS. I keep saying, this was a media hype story. Do not think the media is not reading about the train issue and saying "dang'. They know. Oprah took everything down. They know they messed up. Again, we listen to haters too much to think everyone is doing it. NOT true.

Thank you.
This story was media hyped from the jump. They did all of this promotion and the numbers did not reflect it. They even tried Oprah for good times sake and her shit flopped also.
The ratings were bad all over the place and it’s said that they’ve pulled the plug on the movie from HBO earlier than expected.
I honestly think Oprah knew they lied from the jump or found out later that they lied and that is why she pulled her 93 interview off of YouTube.

Most people did not care to begin with and felt that it was disrespectful to even make the movie since he’s dead.
Majority know the train station story WITH the permits being shown is proof that they’re lying and the ones who won’t admit it are because of their ego or pride.
We can still debunk their movie, but I would really love to go back to celebrating Michael.
Remind people why he is so beloved and he can’t be erased.

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

Yes. It was confirmed.

I saw that on Twitter early this morning, but wasn't sure if it was true or not. NOW WE HAVE CONFIRMATION!!!!!!!

It was supposed to be ON DEMAND until September 2019, but now it will be taken off of On Demand this week. Great News!

HBO played themselves, and just because they aren't saying anything, does not mean they don't know about EVERYTHING that is going on in the Real World.

I'm also WONDERING if the reason HBO removed the "mockumentary" so quickly, has anything to do with the Estate's lawsuit??

Let's not celebrate just yet... two people on Twitter give their reasons what it also could be about.



"I don't think they are pulling the plug. I honestly believe there's an ongoing issue with copyright. Egg man used footage from the real estate agents, photographs he hadn't paid for, MJ's footage, @lavellesmithjr_ 's footage and so on. It's to protect themselves I think. https://t.co/N6H9fKKkPM"

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" Either making more edits, the lawsuit, or someone high up with common sense has decided that it really was a big pile of crap and that nobody should be subjected to its lies and NAMBLA propaganda ever again!"

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They could be right. Let's not forget that Oprah also removed the videos from her channel. I don't think is them giving up or anything.

 

[ksat9]

Let's not celebrate just yet... two people on Twitter give their reasons what it also could be about.



"I don't think they are pulling the plug. I honestly believe there's an ongoing issue with copyright. Egg man used footage from the real estate agents, photographs he hadn't paid for, MJ's footage, @lavellesmithjr_ 's footage and so on. It's to protect themselves I think. https://t.co/N6H9fKKkPM"

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" Either making more edits, the lawsuit, or someone high up with common sense has decided that it really was a big pile of crap and that nobody should be subjected to its lies and NAMBLA propaganda ever again!"

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They could be right. Let's not forget that Oprah also removed the videos from her channel. I don't think is them giving up or anything.

Like I stated before, I don’t know if Oprah knew that they were lying beforehand (I think she did know)but I think someone hipped her to the train station story and some of their lies and tried to erase his 93 interview off the net.
Also yes I’m not getting my hopes up yet.
They might try to pull something funny with this movie.

 

[volitional]

This is a great article about the train station!

https://themichaeljacksonallegation...-station-that-did-not-even-exist-at-the-time/

Please share it under the sutpid articles from the Sun and the Mirror to make a complete fool out of them!

Can some one explain to me why we have journalists and newspapers if all they do is lie and no research. Then compare it to the above article on how they should have dealt with it. I know they do it for ratings and money but for f#ck sake have some integrity.

It's come to the sad point where I can't believe anything and never thought I'd align myself with Trump on fakenews.

Plus the Daily Telegraphs tweet on Liams YouTube documentary calling it weak, effectively. How many more holes do they need in the story before they realise R&S are talking out of their collective arses

 

[ozemouze]

Plus the Daily Telegraphs tweet on Liams YouTube documentary calling it weak, effectively. How many more holes do they need in the story before they realise R&S are talking out of their collective arses

The main problem with that not even the criticism, but the fact that they thought that a free 30 minute youtube video is the official Jackson family rebuttal...

 

[ksat9]

Tell me I'm understood it well, Taj said there's celebrities that supports MJ but they are afraid of the MeToo movement !

This is exactly what I think it is.
If you notice most of the big time celebrities out now with nothing to lose like Chris Brown, TI, The Game, etc. are the ones who have defended him.

 

[Big Apple NYC]

Like I stated before, I don&#8217;t know if Oprah knew that they were lying beforehand (I think she did know)but I think someone hipped her to the train station story and some of their lies and tried to erase his 93 interview off the net.

Yep, I believe Oprah knows what's going on in THE STREETS. She "probably" even knows that HBO took the "mockumentary" off of On Demand.

Out of the blue, today, it was announced that Oprah donated Two Million Dollars to the Puerto Rico Disaster Relief. First of all, Hurricane Maria was TWO YEARS AGO. I'm not saying that help is still not needed in PR, but why today? In my opinion, Oprah don't want the smoke. She knows that the Urban/Black Community is finished with her and even with this recent announcement, many, many, MANY are still staying: "OprahIsCancelled."

Oprah out here tryin to save face!!!!!

 

[AngieJ]

Love what's being said underneath Stephen Amell's tweet. People are using their heads.

 

[MJPoetryFan]

Is it true HBO pulled LN from it's network earlier than planned? I read LN was supposed to air on HBO through til September but now it's ending it's run this month?

 

[terrell]

Yep, I believe Oprah knows what's going on in THE STREETS. She "probably" even knows that HBO took the "mockumentary" off of On Demand.

Out of the blue, today, it was announced that Oprah donated Two Million Dollars to the Puerto Rico Disaster Relief. First of all, Hurricane Maria was TWO YEARS AGO. I'm not saying that help is still not needed in PR, but why today? In my opinion, Oprah don't want the smoke. She knows that the Urban/Black Community is finished with her and even with this recent announcement, many, many, MANY are still staying: "OprahIsCancelled."

Oprah out here tryin to save face!!!!!

BIG APPLE. I SAID THE SAME THING about her donating that money. it is a PR move. That disaster happen year ago when it was fresh. All of sudden now u give? you aint wrong. Too late. She lead this trash to get the attention it did get.

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

Now this is interesting! Picture is in the tweet.

Leaving Neverland and the Farce of the Ring... by @mjBeats ??

#LeavingNeverland
#MJInnocent #MJFam
According to James Safechuck, Jackson "gave her jewelry and a ring as a request for 'wedding vows'. However, everything indicates that the ring was manufactured in 2009 ... https://t.co/pFSGiy9vH6

 

[terrell]

Can some one explain to me why we have journalists and newspapers if all they do is lie and no research. Then compare it to the above article on how they should have dealt with it. I know they do it for ratings and money but for f#ck sake have some integrity.

It's come to the sad point where I can't believe anything and never thought I'd align myself with Trump on fakenews.

Plus the Daily Telegraphs tweet on Liams YouTube documentary calling it weak, effectively. How many more holes do they need in the story before they realise R&S are talking out of their collective arses

because that is their desire to believe it plus that would be admitted they LIED on an innocent man named Michael Jackson.

 

[ksat9]

Yep, I believe Oprah knows what's going on in THE STREETS. She "probably" even knows that HBO took the "mockumentary" off of On Demand.

Out of the blue, today, it was announced that Oprah donated Two Million Dollars to the Puerto Rico Disaster Relief. First of all, Hurricane Maria was TWO YEARS AGO. I'm not saying that help is still not needed in PR, but why today? In my opinion, Oprah don't want the smoke. She knows that the Urban/Black Community is finished with her and even with this recent announcement, many, many, MANY are still staying: "OprahIsCancelled."

Oprah out here tryin to save face!!!!!

BIG APPLE. I SAID THE SAME THING about her donating that money. it is a PR move. That disaster happen year ago when it was fresh. All of sudden now u give? you aint wrong. Too late. She lead this trash to get the attention it did get.

Yep. She didn’t get the response that she thought she would get and is now trying to backtrack and save face.
She thought that because the white industry kisses her ass daily that she would still be able to influence people like she once had.
She forgot or was mistaken that
1) she will never ever in her life no matter how much the industry kisses her ass be more loved by the people than Michael. Regardless of what most feel, Michael is probably more loved by his own (meaning black) people than Oprah period. The response to her post when they tried that pathetic attempt to cancel him showed that.
2) that most black or urban people do not like her at all and haven’t for a while especially when she was trashing rap music.
They also didn’t forget how her channel looked before she had to turn things around and include more black content when the views were low.

Them using her showed to me how out of touch the media is with the general public.
Most people especially the younger generation do not like her and feel she’s been a hypocrite.

 

[Glanni]

one thing i notice again and again: Yes, there were lots of clocks on Neverland. But we know that the clocks all showed different times. It was Michael's idea to show different times so people would just forget the time and enjoy the time they have at Neverland.

Now MJfam always tells haters that there WERE clocks. Yes, but they all showed wrong time!

Here you can clearly see the different times on both clocks. Just sayin! So we shouldnt always respond to haters that there were clocks everywhere.

 

[KOPV]

Does anyone have The MJ Cast email address? For whatever reason I can't get into their website to grab it.. I've been trying to email them for 2 days now, and I just can't get into the site and never saved their email addresss..

 

[KOPV]

one thing i notice again and again: Yes, there were lots of clocks on Neverland. But we know that the clocks all showed different times. It was Michael's idea to show different times so people would just forget the time and enjoy the time they have at Neverland.

Now MJfam always tells haters that there WERE clocks. Yes, but they all showed wrong time!

Here you can clearly see the different times on both clocks. Just sayin! So we shouldnt always respond to haters that there were clocks everywhere.

And what about their personal cell phones? They have clocks.. lol! And in court it was proven they were used.. soooo?

 

[ozemouze]

Slash from Guns N Roses recently spoke about MJ. Nothing about the BS from now. But that's fine.


How did you end up working with Michael Jackson on the Dangerous album in 1991?

“Initially, it was a phone call from my manager where he said, ‘Michael is trying to get in touch with you,’ and I was like, ‘Wow.’ So I called him back and he wanted me to play on Dangerous. We made a date and I went down to the Record Plant in Hollywood and he was there with [actor] Brooke Shields. That was very surreal. These were two people that I’d sort of grown up with, in a way. So we hung out for two minutes and they went off to dinner and left me with this song. I did my thing, he really dug it and afterwards he kept asking me if I’d be into doing this, or doing that. I’d do some shows here and there and it was fun because he was such a pro, and he was such a ****ing talent from on high. That was the main thing: he was so amazingly musically fluid. Such a treat to be around.”

What was it like to hang out with him?

“Onstage, his whole professional thing was really where he clicked. When he wasn’t working, or in production or whatever, it was then you could see that he was sort of at the mercy of his own success. All the people he had around him, the tugging, and the yes people, you could tell that he knew 90 per cent of them were full of shit. I felt sorry for him in that sense. I did a couple of shows with Michael in Tokyo and saw how this whole massive ****ing thing worked, and he was the centre of it. The only time I really felt like he was in any kind of comfort zone was when he was actually onstage. Right after that, Guns came to town and did our shows and our success was massive, but it wasn’t as overwhelming as what Michael was going through. It was just an interesting light, looking at the two things and being careful about what you wished for.”

Thanks for sharing! This is such a great comment: "he was so amazingly musically fluid".

 

[ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona]

Oprah started to remove the interview foootage with Wade & James and Michael from 1993 directly after the imterview was shown on TV and YouTube.
My theory was that she didn't wached LN compleatly on her birthday, but celebrated the project she had finanzed together with her powerrful friends.
After she did the interview with Wade & James she got doubts about their credibilty, watched LN compleatly and reconized the big lie with the trainstation before anybody else because she knew it wasn't build when she interviewed MJ in Febuary 1993 and tried to cover it up in removing the interviews from the internet.

 

[1nn5]

Does anyone have The MJ Cast email address? For whatever reason I can't get into their website to grab it.. I've been trying to email them for 2 days now, and I just can't get into the site and never saved their email addresss..

You can send them a message on Twitter