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Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona said:
Yeah I definitly belive they found things created by Jocobshagen.
When he said there will be videofootage with MJ and children ..... i must direcrly think about this new technic were you can put the faces of celebreties in porns and made it look like it is real.
I'm really disapointed that they will give Jobshagen a stage to speak before the airing of LN on german tv.
I guess when Gavin and Jordan will not find the courage and admit that they lied this nightmare never will find an end.
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There was a tribute artist who claimed some time ago that he was approached with a photoshoot offer. Said photoshoot turned out to be a thing that would make it look like Michael was harming kids.

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I wonder if maybe this could be tied into that? Or if it's the face-swap thing... either way this is just... :mat:
 
Well the documentary sounds bad and I hope it doesn't happen but Jacobshagen's claims about a video is nonsense. IF there was a video it would have been major news before now, just like the R Kelly one was. nobody would be sitting on that video for decades without saying a word, and if it did exist it would be too much of a coincidence for a known fraud to be involved with it.
 
The new technic with which they can bing a celebretie into a porn and make it look like it is real was pesented in one of Perl Junior videos. But I don't know anymore in which she talked about this.
It was shortly after her Reviews of LN.

This can be now a new trend of 2019 with LN and Surviving R Kelly....
To accuse someone of the horrible crimes in a powerful documentery in multible takes where you are not under oath, don't have to show evidence or must survive questions from any loyar instead of using the justice system like people did it before 2019.

All families from dead celebreties should be prepared for a new dark era.
 
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Zireaelle said:
Guys I'm scared as **** now.
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Because of Jacobshagen?! Don`t be. He is just an idiot and a fraud. Everything about his story is a fake.

And that Dan Reed, man, he is getting so ridiculously desperate right now. Can`t he see how pathetic he has become?! And how obsessed he is with whatever the fans are doing and saying. Doesn`t he have a life?! Dumbass!
 
ksat9;4253345 said:
I know the media are mentioning the train station being built 1-2 years later, but I want someone to mention how pushing the abuse back actually discredits their story completely.
Dan is on record in a radio interview mentioning how Michael didn’t like teenage boys and discarded the boys when they were around 14/15.
Both Wade and James mentioned how Michael lost interest once they hit puberty.
Pushing the years back shuts that narrative down and completely puts their stories in question.
I’m sorry a few months I can understand, but you cannot get a pass for 1.5-2 whole years of not remembering a location when you’re detailed about everything else.
One of these days people are going to have to use logic and common sense and see something is not right.
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Yes, the media are missing a key point here.

By contradicting his accuser, Reed is:

(a) saying James was not truthful in his many sworn declarations
(b) admitting his film is inaccurate
(c) admitting the fact checking was not accurate
(d) breaking his own timeline
(e) contradicting the film's whole narrative that MJ abandoned boys once they hit purberty
(f) contradicting the film's claim that Brett/MAc replaced James
(g) expecting the viewer to believe that MJ was abusing JAmes while under investigation for abusing Chandler.

None of this makes sense!
 
I don't know much about Jacobshagen, but they all want to do a documentary to tarnish the image we have of Michael Jackson. I'm exhausted.
And I don't know what he's about to show. Just like Anthony Pellicano. I'm scared of Leaving Neverland 2 that Dan Reed wants to produce too. I though all this shit was coming to en end but NOOooooooOoooOooooOOOOOoo.
 
Erandi said:
Because of Jacobshagen?! Don`t be. He is just an idiot and a fraud. Everything about his story is a fake.

And that Dan Reed, man, he is getting so ridiculously desperate right now. Can`t he see how pathetic he has become?! And how obsessed he is with whatever the fans are doing and saying. Doesn`t he have a life?! Dumbass!
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Jocobshagen will make promotion for this new documentery and his new book he is whriting when he is on German TV before the LN airing.

Did we hear anything new from this team which investigates him?
 
Jacobshagen wouldn't recognise the truth if he tripped over it.

The suggested timeline for this new 'film' (not going to call it a documentary) seems odd. MJ was in S Africa in March 1999 to announce the 'MJ and friends' concerts. It's unlikely he was there alone. I wonder if he took Prince and Paris (and Grace) on that trip?

I seem to remember a German family coming forward a couple of weeks ago in support of MJ. I think they said that they met him in S Africa, and stayed friends for the rest of his life. I can't find their message to see what year they met MJ. (It was widely shared on social media).

I guess until we know who the other 20 people are that Jacobshagen is mentioning, we're in the dark until we know more. Since Jacobshagen expects us to be stupid enough to think that photos of other people are him as a child, I'm not anticipating anything new.

Hopefully the Estate can get an early viewing.
 
Is the Estate aware of what Jacobshagen is about to do?
They need to do something before it's too late.
 
myosotis said:
Jacobshagen wouldn't recognise the truth if he tripped over it.

The suggested timeline for this new 'film' (not going to call it a documentary) seems odd. MJ was in S Africa in March 1999 to announce the 'MJ and friends' concerts. It's unlikely he was there alone. I wonder if he took Prince and Paris (and Grace) on that trip?

I seem to remember a German family coming forward a couple of weeks ago in support of MJ. I think they said that they met him in S Africa, and stayed friends for the rest of his life. I can't find their message to see what year they met MJ. (It was widely shared on social media).

I guess until we know who the other 20 people are that Jacobshagen is mentioning, we're in the dark until we know more. Since Jacobshagen expects us to be stupid enough to think that photos of other people are him as a child, I'm not anticipating anything new.

Hopefully the Estate can get an early viewing.
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I couldn't edit the above, but I found the details: They were the Schleiter family and met MJ in 1995 on a TV programme.
I anticipate that there will be plenty of people around MJ who will be able to debunk whatever new stories Jacobshagen or his contacts have come up with.
 
Zireaelle said:
Is the Estate aware of what Jacobshagen is about to do?
They need to do something before it's too late.
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They seem to be keeping a very close eye on developments at the moment, and I am sure will be following social media and people like Mike Smallcombe will be in contact with them.
 
myosotis said:
I couldn't edit the above, but I found the details: They were the Schleiter family and met MJ in 1995 on a TV programme.
I anticipate that there will be plenty of people around MJ who will be able to debunk whatever new stories Jacobshagen or his contacts have come up with.
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This is the statement from the Schreiter family:
https://schleiter-family.com/?fbclid=IwAR0uQRVHZLgoMe3M4TVoJFp10tjdQ5vECEQb-YCvM6Qe0xXP-K1mMMvazis

I am sure that they knew Jocobshagen cause he talked about a german family who want to stay secretly in the King Jordan Interview.
They should release a new statement on the webside about Jocobshagen, but I don't know how to contact them.
 
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New short videos from "inaworldoflove" with the focus on Oprah:



This statement of her remembers me on Babara S. comment and that both are friends with the sexual predetor Harvey Weinstein:


Have a look into the reaction in the comment section under the video.
 
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ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona said:
The new technic with which they can bing a celebretie into a porn and make it look like it is real
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That in itself is extremely shocking...


Ah , im not really too worried about Jacobshagssheep to be honest. He is a big mouth weak ass - His twitter is protected and he likes the smell of his own sh!t.
One of the first to cash in ....and looks like one of the last. I knew his large head would have to get involved somewhere.


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You really think they're going to put a video of a child being molested on all our screens? haha i don't think so. But that's the thing we think of when it comes to "definitive proof". So if that's what they're proclaiming, then who is the "victim" supposed to be then in the video? Will they be in the new documentary? Is it Jacobshagen claiming its him? lol But yeah the thing I'm worried about is the impersonator thing, I just don't see how they would be able to show it, even under the premise that it's real. Unless its very dark/grainy and you don't actually see anything. But great, now we have another trash piece to look forward to...
 
The video evidence thing makes no sense.

There are 3 options -

Michael taped the session. Not bloody likely. And it would have been found way before now, consider how things were so thoroughly searched over the decades!

Or the victim arranged for the filming and therefore allowed themselves to be molested so that they would have proof. So they get the proof and never use it - never carry it to the police or sell it to a tabloid or sue MJ/Estate before now?

Or a third party filmed it. So they watched a child being molested and did nothing to stop it and did nothing with the 'evidence' till now.

Hmm....
 
TheChosenOne said:
The video evidence thing makes no sense.

There are 3 options -

Michael taped the session. Not bloody likely. And it would have been found way before now, consider how things were so thoroughly searched over the decades!

Or the victim arranged for the filming and therefore allowed themselves to be molested so that they would have proof. So they get the proof and never use it - never carry it to the police or sell it to a tabloid or sue MJ/Estate before now?

Or a third party filmed it. So they watched a child being molested and did nothing to stop it and did nothing with the 'evidence' till now.

Hmm....
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Yeah you are absolutly right!!!
 
In Russia fans are talking about same secret movie that been shot in US and out in May/June with tapes to be shown. Some russian speaking guy claims to be working as camera man there ( of course noname). Seems like some plan to spread more bullshit (=earn some money on hype) using those who agree to participate in scam

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olved said:
In Russia fans are talking about same secret movie that been shot in US and out in May/June with tapes to be shown. Some russian speaking guy claims to be working as camera man there ( of course noname). Seems like some plan to spread more bullshit (=earn some money on hype) using those who agree to participate in scam

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I figured this would happen. The tide is turning and people with vested interests, need it to turn back.

If the media latches on to this and refuses to critically dissect or provide balanced coverage, we will need to go on the offensive.

We can get tired and frustrated. But we cannot give up. This is too important.
 
Looking forward to seeing if the "Train Story," will continue to be reported on today.
 
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Staffordshire Bullterrier said:
That face alone... it asks to be punched hard!!!

Truly, can't this ridiculous asshole just **** off?

The estate should go after this pos. Sue him. Just like MJ went after the fake maids with their BS, and won.
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He was alive then. And despite winning the cases the same freuds are still selling their stories to this day, no one challenges them.

I don't know what's behind this anti-MJ agenda, but it must be some very powerful forces.

And for the record I never believed in conspiracy theories, I actually rolled my eyes when MJ talked about it (sorry, Michael!) but there's no other acceptable explanation for this misconduct what's happening before our eyes. The silence of the MSM concerning the debunked lies in NL after months of heavy promotion and the plans for new attacks are just unbelievable.
 
ozemouze said:
He was alive then. And despite winning the cases the same freuds are still selling their stories to this day, no one challenges them.

I don't know what's behind this anti-MJ agenda, but it must be some very powerful forces.

And for the record I never believed in conspiracy theories, I actually rolled my eyes when MJ talked about it (sorry, Michael!) but there's no other acceptable explanation for this misconduct what's happening before our eyes. The silence of the MSM concerning the debunked lies in NL after months of heavy promotion and the plans for new attacks are just unbelievable.
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That's because the Estate isn't actif in media.
I'm waiting to see how will they treat the lawsuit between the Estate and HBO.
 
olved said:
In Russia fans are talking about same secret movie that been shot in US and out in May/June with tapes to be shown. Some russian speaking guy claims to be working as camera man there ( of course noname). Seems like some plan to spread more bullshit (=earn some money on hype) using those who agree to participate in scam

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I think someone near the beginning of this thread posted that Reed had a Russian background...and something about working in a restaurant. Wonder if this cameraman is a friend from back home.
 
You all are giving this way to much attention. fans end up been the ones to help spread crap around the net be unneedingly discussing obvious rubbish.
 
Nobody on Twitter is covering it and I'm sure as hell not going to bring it up. Let sleeping dogs lie shall we see.

Unbelievable, just when things are truly improving, even several bigger media now covering the lies, and now this piece of shit is gonna ruin it? I'm not gonna worry too much, the guy is a nobody and Razorfist told me in a tweet that even the biggest of haters don't dare bring him up into the conversation.
 
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