Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

[ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona]

I hate it be forced now to watch the compleate interviews with James he did for the LN promotion to see if he said there himself he was abused from the age 10 til 14 or from the years 1988 til 1992.
I am trough the compleate cbs interview now and can admit that he didn't say it there.
I think i will listen to the Oprah Interview next.

 

[ozemouze]

I hate it be forced now to watch the compleate interviews with James he did for the LN promotion to see if he said there himself he was abused from the age 10 til 14 or from the years 1988 til 1992.
I am trough the compleate cbs interview now and can admit that he didn't say it there.
I think i will listen to the Oprah Interview next.

It's in the BBC one:
https://twitter.com/jamster83/status/1112600903444586496

Shame on them BTW to give platform to such scam without fact checking.

 

[terrell]

And you don't confuse age 14 with 16 if in your narrative you clearly differentiated between before and after puberty (you may don't remember the year something happened in general, but you will if it's connected to something big event/turning point).



This is VERY true and I told someone this just morning who twitter me about people forget (and when people "forget" they DO NOT try to act like know in detail which is a red flag for A LIE. This is how detectives pick up when a person is lying to them. Some things can be too good to be true). And when something is a big event/turning point, u wont forget it. Lets look at Michael's death. I bet everyone can tell you what they were doing or where they were at when they got news of MJ's death. I still even remember what I was wearing that day.

 

[ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona]

It's in the BBC one:
https://twitter.com/jamster83/status/1112600903444586496

Shame on them BTW to give platform to such scam without fact checking.

I can not watch it as a non twitter memeber.
Do you have the quote?

 

[ozemouze]

This is VERY true and I told someone this just morning who twitter me about people forget (and when people "forget" they DO NOT try to act like know in detail which is a red flag for A LIE. This is how detectives pick up when a person is lying to them. Some things can be too good to be true). And when something is a big event/turning point, u wont forget it. Lets look at Michael's death. I bet everyone can tell you what they were doing or where they were at when they got news of MJ's death. I still even remember what I was wearing that day.

You're right! He could have just said he doesn't remember exact dates/places as his memory is hazy, he could even blame it on trauma - but he chose to (or was trained to) say: train station!

And we all know why. Too bad for them their plan to shock and validate their lies with detailed descriptions backfired this time.

 

[ozemouze]

I can not watch it as a non twitter memeber.
Do you have the quote?

Hm, strange, I'm not a member either but I can watch it. It's a lil' video clip from the BBC interview with subtitles where Safechuck talks about the timeline.

Found an article, it's quite disgusting (again, shame on the BBC for this), but here's the quote: James Safechuck, 40, told the programme Jackson had sexually abused him "from the age of 10 until around 14".
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-47403951

 

[ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona]

The quote from the bbc interview is:

"James Safechuck, 40, told the programme Jackson had sexually abused him "from the age of 10 until around 14"."

Did we have nothing better from him from the interviews his first complaint or his deposition?

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Brilliant ??? thanks russ.


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No... but I know the room wasn't even built when the abuse was alleged... does that count?#LeavingNeverland #Fraud #Criminal

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[Paris78]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2 months ago I told <a href="https://twitter.com/HBO?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@HBO</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/danreed1000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@danreed1000</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/Oprah?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Oprah</a> MJ fans will fact check every word , demonstrate every lie &amp; it would be quite shameful for them. Underestimating MJ Fans dedication and level of knowledge was a huge mistake. Be a man and apologize for your lack of research &amp; ethics. <a href="https://t.co/hCQ3sFjocc">https://t.co/hCQ3sFjocc</a></p>&mdash; Ivy (@Ivy_4MJ) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ivy_4MJ/status/1113260623335497728?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Remember <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJFam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJFam</a>, YOU found these details. Every single one of you who has either researched the false allegations, or tweeted them out, has played a part in disproving all the lies in the film. Always and forever, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a>. <a href="https://t.co/ZwctCkuqw2">https://t.co/ZwctCkuqw2</a></p>&mdash; andjustice4some (@andjustice4some) <a href="https://twitter.com/andjustice4some/status/1113234968296058880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">&#128591;&#127997;&#128079;&#127997; <a href="https://t.co/RR6IY5LlyF">https://t.co/RR6IY5LlyF</a></p>&mdash; Taj Jackson (@tajjackson3) <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3/status/1113419080147427328?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m not surprised by <a href="https://twitter.com/danreed1000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@danreed1000</a>’s preposterous and erratic responses to all of this. <br><br>He’s had such a shamefully easy ride from the media worldwide so far, it’s no wonder he doesn’t know how to handle the situation he suddenly finds himself in.</p>&mdash; Mike Smallcombe (@mikesmallcombe1) <a href="https://twitter.com/mikesmallcombe1/status/1113479370251931650?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">See, <a href="https://twitter.com/HBO?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@HBO</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/Oprah?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Oprah</a> did an entire <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeavingNeveland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LeavingNeveland</a> after show for victims of sexual abuse off MJ’s name and legacy and look how he backtracking. Smeared Michael’s reputation post mortem. See if they apologize tho. Shameful. <a href="https://t.co/slHDLNIZPQ">pic.twitter.com/slHDLNIZPQ</a></p>&mdash; Isaac Hayes III (@IsaacHayes3) <a href="https://twitter.com/IsaacHayes3/status/1113282490679091200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It still bothers me Safechuck’s mom (in midst of horrible acting) talks about waking up to news of MJ’s death &amp; getting out of bed &amp; dancing when he died, because it happened in the afternoon in LA where she lived. Well it’s interesting to note Farrah Fawcett DID die that morning <a href="https://t.co/F0G0QNun3i">https://t.co/F0G0QNun3i</a></p>&mdash; John Ziegler (@Zigmanfreud) <a href="https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud/status/1113324585057902592?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Paris78]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dan Reed forgets that his film is told sequentially with black screen interludes to clearly separate each time frame. 86, 87, 90, 92...<br><br>All train abuse discussions by James are described as occurring between the &quot;November 1987&quot; &amp; &quot;January 1990&quot; interludes.<br><br>There's the timeline. <a href="https://t.co/qEScfrOoJv">pic.twitter.com/qEScfrOoJv</a></p>&mdash; TSCM (@MJJRepository) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJJRepository/status/1113286752200949761?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thank you <a href="https://twitter.com/Complex?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Complex</a> for reporting this. &#128591;&#127997; <a href="https://t.co/qxIqFPTkDN">https://t.co/qxIqFPTkDN</a></p>&mdash; Taj Jackson (@tajjackson3) <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3/status/1113285191861067777?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Truth?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Truth</a> is a hard pill for ones to swallow but truth always appears.</p>&mdash; Austin Brown (@AustinBrown) <a href="https://twitter.com/AustinBrown/status/1113246380326182912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Miss u Applehead. &#129304;&#127998;</p>&mdash; Austin Brown (@AustinBrown) <a href="https://twitter.com/AustinBrown/status/1113246814436679680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Safechuck’s sworn declaration, signed ‘under penalty of perjury’:<br>1) Says explicitly that abuse ended in 1992. <br>2) Only ever recounts seeing Jackson again after ‘92 outside California.<br><br>So by defending his story in the show, Dan Reed is accusing his own star witness of perjury. <a href="https://t.co/O2pM9Py57d">https://t.co/O2pM9Py57d</a></p>&mdash; Charles Thomson (@CEThomson) <a href="https://twitter.com/CEThomson/status/1113223889390329862?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">2. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dude, give it up. You see there are these things called math/time. Once Safechuck can’t be abused in the train house until at LEAST mid-1994, then he’s 16 years old &amp; your entire narrative of MJ’s MO, not to mention Safechuck’s lawsuit testimony, gets blown to bits! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Desperation?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Desperation</a> <a href="https://t.co/0R09r9aSbN">https://t.co/0R09r9aSbN</a></p>&mdash; John Ziegler (@Zigmanfreud) <a href="https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud/status/1113216525329063936?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">2. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There are many opinions on both sides of the fence about the credibility of Michael Jackson's accusers in 'Leaving Neverland'. <br><br>One recent revelation by a biographer shows that one particular accuser either has a foggy memory or a deceptive intent. <a href="https://t.co/l3VUihGSq1">https://t.co/l3VUihGSq1</a></p>&mdash; theGrio.com (@theGrio) <a href="https://twitter.com/theGrio/status/1113169283364814848?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">2. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Paris78]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Leaving Neverland director admits accuser wasn't abused on dates he claimed&quot; via <a href="https://twitter.com/TheSun?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheSun</a> <a href="https://t.co/Lwq6V7ngm7">https://t.co/Lwq6V7ngm7</a></p>&mdash; Juliens Auctions (@JuliensAuctions) <a href="https://twitter.com/JuliensAuctions/status/1113223476821803008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">2. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Amazing promo photoshoot this morning with <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tajjackson3</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/BJackson82?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BJackson82</a> for our Friday interview. They were a lot more photogenic than me but taught me how to pose for the camera. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/truestory?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#truestory</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/tunein?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#tunein</a> <a href="https://t.co/SKajW6WgJf">pic.twitter.com/SKajW6WgJf</a></p>&mdash; Danny Wu (@dannywuyue) <a href="https://twitter.com/dannywuyue/status/1113196566687260672?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">2. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bit by bit, the accusations on MJ are crumbling...</p>&mdash; TROY (@TROYmagician) <a href="https://twitter.com/TROYmagician/status/1113043871397789696?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">2. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This thread perfectly explains Jame Safechuck’s huge train station lie in Leaving Neverland.&#128071;&#127997; <br>I heard a lot of people previously talk about how “powerful” and “disturbing” that scene was. <br><br>Guess it wasn’t as powerful as the Truth.<br>Facts don’t lie, People do <a href="https://t.co/FO1leHLVFb">https://t.co/FO1leHLVFb</a></p>&mdash; Taj Jackson (@tajjackson3) <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3/status/1113495474013581312?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The top stories regarding Leaving Neverland: <a href="https://t.co/MfO3Oq607B">pic.twitter.com/MfO3Oq607B</a></p>&mdash; Blues Away (@SpeechlessMJJ16) <a href="https://twitter.com/SpeechlessMJJ16/status/1113412799353565184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Some great news! <br>We all hope this will happen &#9829;<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJINNOCENT?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJINNOCENT</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FactsDontLiePeopleDo?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FactsDontLiePeopleDo</a> <a href="https://t.co/s3qcktEx9a">pic.twitter.com/s3qcktEx9a</a></p>&mdash; Zoe P. (@jackson777_zoe) <a href="https://twitter.com/jackson777_zoe/status/1113256010951434240?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Robbsaber01]

Its hilarious how Reed is still trying to stay credible. 0% chance they win any lawsuit against the estate. The $ Wade/James are making from interviews, selling LN , his"victim charity" isnt enough?? Now they will probably attempt another lawsuit smh. If the judge didnt believe Wade before...what makes him any more credible now lol. If T Mez is hired for the estate he will make safechuck crack like an egg.

 

[volitional]

Brilliant ??? thanks russ.


Samar @TheMJAP
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No... but I know the room wasn't even built when the abuse was alleged... does that count?#LeavingNeverland #Fraud #Criminal

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Comments like this really piss me off.

How do they know that Michael was a paedophile. It should be them having to prove their case. Not us having to disprove it.

I'm fed up with this #meetoo movement. Look at Joe Biden now. All I hear is you should listen to these women, these accusers.

Yes listen to them but don't f#cking throw out your common sense when listening to them.

It's gone from one extreme where victims were hushed up to the other that they are always telling the truth and the accused is guilty full stop, so who needs due process and facts.

 

[terrell]

It's in the BBC one:
https://twitter.com/jamster83/status/1112600903444586496

Shame on them BTW to give platform to such scam without fact checking.

That is what happen when people want to believe desperate that someone abused kids when facts always shown his innocent yet o of these folks do not want to accept it in the media.

 

[ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona]

Don't forget Reed must also admit that Wade lied about the story with burning his MJ memorbillia collection.

What can we find out about the existance of the other places where Reed want the people to belive that James was abused there.
Did they really all exist til the end of 1992?

Again.... besides from MJs bedroom suite James didn't mention any of the other places in Neverland in his complaint where a abuse took place.

 

[Paris78]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Taj Jackson Seeking $777,000 to Produce Doc Series About His Uncle Michael: 'I Want to Get the Truth Out There' <a href="https://t.co/lHzvC4XE0C">https://t.co/lHzvC4XE0C</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/billboard?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@billboard</a></p>&mdash; andjustice4some (@andjustice4some) <a href="https://twitter.com/andjustice4some/status/1113475543368732672?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I don’t think this scumbag realized that MJ soldiers are EVERYWHERE on this earth. He will never have another peaceful moment the rest of his life ANYWHERE he may go. We know what you look like dick-head. <a href="https://t.co/fN6MD5bOlo">pic.twitter.com/fN6MD5bOlo</a></p>&mdash; Karen Faye (@wingheart) <a href="https://twitter.com/wingheart/status/1113452920492548097?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">EXCLUSIVE: Lawyer who took Wade Robson's deposition in Michael Jackson's child molestation trial in 2005 says the Australian dancer and his co-accuser James Safechuck are lying - simply chasing 'fame and money' <a href="https://t.co/j8XzLrM9kE">https://t.co/j8XzLrM9kE</a></p>&mdash; The Best of Internet (@TheBestofMJJ) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheBestofMJJ/status/1113502475397554177?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So much I want to tweet but let me keep this simple and say <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a>! <a href="https://t.co/IuA7wkpxnG">https://t.co/IuA7wkpxnG</a></p>&mdash; Keith Powers (@KeithTPowers) <a href="https://twitter.com/KeithTPowers/status/1113109153176674304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">2. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">THRILLER LIVE EXTENDS- NEWS <a href="https://twitter.com/ThrillerLive?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ThrillerLive</a> extends its West End <br>run to April, 2020.<br><br>The new booking period will see Thriller Live going into its 12th year in the West End!<br><br>Our personal congratulations to all the ones involved in this spectacular show. <a href="https://t.co/4i7W6cmmNI">pic.twitter.com/4i7W6cmmNI</a></p>&mdash; londontheatrereviews (@londontheatrer1) <a href="https://twitter.com/londontheatrer1/status/1113071794133635075?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">2. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Exciting announcement from <a href="https://twitter.com/lavellesmithjr_?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@lavellesmithjr_</a> with his <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/themanbehindthedance?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#themanbehindthedance</a> project launching in May, 2019! Just the lift in spirits I needed!<br>It was WAY back in 2015, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheMJCastEp19?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TheMJCastEp19</a> that we last spoke with La Velle, high time we invite him back?!<br>&#128187;<a href="https://t.co/Bn8J1tR2KG">https://t.co/Bn8J1tR2KG</a><br>^Q <a href="https://t.co/tV44EUANQk">https://t.co/tV44EUANQk</a></p>&mdash; The MJCast (@TheMJCast) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheMJCast/status/1112946957738115073?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">2. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I don’t think any artist would ever hire Robson again, and I hope MJ trained Safechuck well enough holding that umbrella, so maybe he can be a caddy (for &#127812 the rest of his life.</p>&mdash; Karen Faye (@wingheart) <a href="https://twitter.com/wingheart/status/1113457732290367488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">3. April 2019</a></blockquote>
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[terrell]

You're right! He could have just said he doesn't remember exact dates/places as his memory is hazy, he could even blame it on trauma - but he chose to (or was trained to) say: train station!

And we all know why. Too bad for them their plan to shock and validate their lies with detailed descriptions backfired this time.

He can not even blame it on trama because they were asked many times about being abused since 1993. Then the trial (total lie proven in court with again LIARS). How did that "trama" have time to be "oppressed" when the media talked about so much.

 

[analogue]

The media can no longer pull the wool over people's eyes like they used to back in 93 and 05. Thanks to the internet, people get their information from other places that aren't the mainstream media

 

[terrell]

Comments like this really piss me off.

How do they know that Michael was a paedophile. It should be them having to prove their case. Not us having to disprove it.

I'm fed up with this #meetoo movement. Look at Joe Biden now. All I hear is you should listen to these women, these accusers.

Yes listen to them but don't f#cking throw out your common sense when listening to them.

It's gone from one extreme where victims were hushed up to the other that they are always telling the truth and the accused is guilty full stop, so who needs due process and facts.

And that is backfiring. I say when u are willing to listen to a lie told on someone else, it is going to come back around on someone u like. Look even how some were trying to twist pictures of Biden but those ladies in the pictures came to his defense. See, Biden did things to be friendly and to comfort people and look what these ladies who making the claims trying to twist it.

 

[1nn5]

I think we needs more journalists to be interviewed by tabloids.
why the declarations of Charles Thomson didn't made the headlines of the tabloids ? :/

 

[ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona]

Conntinue to share this great video. It gets much attention and views til it was uploaded on saturday.

"Neverland Firsthand: Investigating the Michael Jackson Documentery" from "Liam McEwan"
165.778 views on April 3 2019

The channel has only this one video uploaded and semed to get now 9.073 subscribers in only a few days. This tells a lot and it is very positive.
The big train station isn't even mention in this video.

 

[ksat9]

I know the media are mentioning the train station being built 1-2 years later, but I want someone to mention how pushing the abuse back actually discredits their story completely.
Dan is on record in a radio interview mentioning how Michael didn’t like teenage boys and discarded the boys when they were around 14/15.
Both Wade and James mentioned how Michael lost interest once they hit puberty.
Pushing the years back shuts that narrative down and completely puts their stories in question.
I’m sorry a few months I can understand, but you cannot get a pass for 1.5-2 whole years of not remembering a location when you’re detailed about everything else.
One of these days people are going to have to use logic and common sense and see something is not right.

 

[ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona]

I know the media are mentioning the train station being built 1-2 years later, but I want someone to mention how pushing the abuse back actually discredits their story completely.
Dan is on record in a radio interview mentioning how Michael didn’t like teenage boys and discarded the boys when they were around 14/15.
Both Wade and James mentioned how Michael lost interest once they hit puberty.
Pushing the years back shuts that narrative down and completely puts their stories in question.
I’m sorry a few months I can understand, but you cannot get a pass for 1.5-2 whole years of not remembering a location when you’re detailed about everything else.
One of these days people are going to have to use logic and common sense and see something is not right.

I really hope that the genius Michael Jackson had the great idea to keep records about the visitors of Neverland and to keep all the videofootage his security cameras have recorded to expose every greedy backstabber he had to deal with since the 80ies.

I am sure that he never relly trusted people except from a very few.
He was not so naive like many people think.

 

[Yeezy]

We lasted the eye of the storm of BS that was Leaving Neverland. It's changing. Were not out yet but its changing. It's a shame we can't have a wall of shame for those who denounced Michael in the time of need this year. The fans are unbelievable. They make me proud to be a part of the TRUTH everyday.

 

[ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona]

It would be really great when Kathrine Jackson would relase a statement about the Safechucks and their visits at Heyvenhurst.
She also must know how much and when MJ really did visited the Safechucks at their home and how much sleepovers he had there.
She could be a important witness for MJs defense.
She must study James legal documents.
It is maybe not the best idea anymore from the Jackson Family to keep her away from this battle.

 

[Anna]

[h=1]&#8216;Leaving Neverland&#8217; Director Admits Timeline of Alleged Abuse is Questionable[/h]https://www.ebony.com/entertainment...ts-timeline-of-alleged-abuse-is-questionable/


[h=1]&#8220;Leaving Neverland&#8221; Director Admits There Are Holes in Michael Jackson Accuser&#8217;s Story[/h]https://gossiponthis.com/2019/04/03...dmits-holes-story-mj-accuser-james-safechuck/


[h=1]Leaving Neverland, errate le date degli abusi: imbarazzato il regista[/h]http://www.ilgiornale.it/news/spett...ate-date-degli-abusi-imbarazzato-1672765.html


[h=1]Michael Jackson pédophile&#8239;? L&#8217;un de ses accusateurs aurait menti[/h]https://www.voici.fr/news-people/ac...le-lun-de-ses-accusateurs-aurait-menti-658047


[h=1]Leaving Neverland : Le réalisateur admet qu'un accusateur aurait menti[/h]http://www.purepeople.com/article/l...admet-qu-un-accusateur-aurait-menti_a330845/1


[h=1]Regisseur räumt Fehler bei Jackson-Doku ein[/h]https://www.bild.de/unterhaltung/le...ehler-bei-jackson-doku-ein-61033400.bild.html

 

[ksat9]

I really hope that the genius Michael Jackson had the great idea to keep records about the visitors of Neverland and to keep all the videofootage his security cameras have recorded to expose every greedy backstabber he had to deal with since the 80ies.

I am sure that he never relly trusted people except from a very few.
He was not so naive like many people think.

I read that there was a log-in book for Neverland.
If I remember correctly that was partially how Janet Arvizo’s testimony of being held hostage was debunked.

 

[ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona]

I read that there was a log-in book for Neverland.
If I remember correctly that was partially how Janet Arvizo’s testimony of being held hostage was debunked.

I hope that something like this did already existed when James and Wade were around Michael as children.

 

[ksat9]

We lasted the eye of the storm of BS that was Leaving Neverland. It's changing. Were not out yet but its changing. It's a shame we can't have a wall of shame for those who denounced Michael in the time of need this year. The fans are unbelievable. They make me proud to be a part of the TRUTH everyday.

I can see it too. Dan is grasping at straws and trying to find anything to stick.
Many said James would be the one to get them caught and it seems right now to be correct.
If the fans find another big lie like the train station I think this story will take an even bigger turn.
I would love for one of us to find the ring and see if it’s recent or not.
Either way any big media person or journalist who supported this fictional movie will never get a pass from me.
What they did was disgusting, irresponsible, and extremely dangerous.

 

[Glanni]

two questios:

1. did dann greed aka the EGG delete his tweet where he admitted that the train story doesnt add up with the timeline? LOL!

2. the robson police deposition from 1993 isnt released? is there any chance to get it??