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Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

ksat9;4253352 said:
I can see it too. Dan is grasping at straws and trying to find anything to stick.
Many said James would be the one to get them caught and it seems right now to be correct.
If the fans find another big lie like the train station I think this story will take an even bigger turn.
I would love for one of us to find the ring and see if it’s recent or not.
Either way any big media person or journalist who supported this fictional movie will never get a pass from me.
What they did was disgusting, irresponsible, and extremely dangerous.
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I think the BIG Jackson family is able to put the biggest holes in Wades and James story and to disproove it when they all work together.
They ALL have to come together, have to watch LN and read the Lawsuits over and over again cause they are the ones who knew the most about Michael, what he did when he did it and who are the important witnesses to contact.

To miss the opportunity to expose this big trainstation lie and others before the TV airing on HBO was a big mistake.
Taj had the LN transcript and did read it before the airing.
Why he didn't show it the whole family?
Someone would have noticed it.
 
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Glanni said:
two questios:

1. did dann greed aka the EGG delete his tweet where he admitted that the train story doesnt add up with the timeline? LOL!

2. the robson police deposition from 1993 isnt released? is there any chance to get it??
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I think it is very difficult when I think about the fight over many years which Corey had to get parts of his testemony from 1993 released.
This is the only testemony which were relesed til this day from the over 300 familys they have interviewed during the Jordan Chandler case.
 
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ksat9;4253345 said:
I know the media are mentioning the train station being built 1-2 years later, but I want someone to mention how pushing the abuse back actually discredits their story completely.
Dan is on record in a radio interview mentioning how Michael didn’t like teenage boys and discarded the boys when they were around 14/15.
Both Wade and James mentioned how Michael lost interest once they hit puberty.
Pushing the years back shuts that narrative down and completely puts their stories in question.
I’m sorry a few months I can understand, but you cannot get a pass for 1.5-2 whole years of not remembering a location when you’re detailed about everything else.
One of these days people are going to have to use logic and common sense and see something is not right.
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I saw this comment on Twitter:

"The beauty of the lie that Dan Reed and Jimmy Safechuck are caught in is that there's LITERALLY no escape. If they go back in time, the train station where Jimmy was "abused" didn't exist. If they go forward in time when the station was built, Jimmy has to be over 16.#Checkmate"
 
[h=1]Michael Jackson fans list 'inconsistencies' in Safechuck and Robson's accounts of abuse[/h]https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/michael-jackson-fans-find-multiple-14228999



'Leaving Neverland' Director Admits Key Details In Accuser's Story Don't Align

https://blavity.com/leaving-neverland-director-admits-key-details-in-accusers-story-dont-align



Taj's interview with Billboard is good. You should give it a read if you haven't already - https://www.billboard.com/articles/...iew-defends-uncle-michael-jackson-documentary
 
ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona said:
I think is very difficult when I think about the fight over many years which Corey had to get parts of his testemony from 1993 released.
This is the only testemony which were relesed til this day from the over 300 familys they have interviewed during the Jordan Chandler case.
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300????
 
Try to find the picture from inside the train station which Reed claimed was made by James...
Maybe also try to find out if the trainstation with the flowers outside in LN did look like it was back in 1994, 1995 and 1996.
 
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german tv programme for saturday. curious if the running time of the film changes until then.

but the "Pro7 Special" will be probably the one with Jacobshagen LOL

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Vici;4253360 said:
I saw this comment on Twitter:

"The beauty of the lie that Dan Reed and Jimmy Safechuck are caught in is that there's LITERALLY no escape. If they go back in time, the train station where Jimmy was "abused" didn't exist. If they go forward in time when the station was built, Jimmy has to be over 16.#Checkmate"
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I saw this comment yesterday and this was my exact thought.
If he admits the story is a lie to protect James’s appeal, then the legitimacy of the movie is in question.
If he protects his movie (which he is doing) by extending the years, then he’s calling James a perjurer and his appeal is definitely going in the trash.
If someone like the breakfast club or other urban media outlets gets to this, this will be the beginning of the end.

When Dan Reed has his next televised or radio interview (because I know it won’t be Wade and/or James) I would love to see the journalist ask him the question about the train station and then come back at him about their past comments about puberty.

For the meantime I would like to see someone like Razorfist update with the new factual (not eurodisney story) information to spread to others. His videos have a large amount of views to spread this truth.
 
Are we sending these headlines to Drake? Asking for a friend ....

He, Oprah and John Legend had better NEVER have Michael's name in their mouths EVER again.
 
Remember guys to click on these positive articles and maybe add a few more inconsistencies in the comments section.
 
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Sorry to bring this loser up but has anyone seen Michael Jacobshagen's latest tweet?


He's saying that there is going to be a documentary featuring 20 people speaking on camera coming out about MJ in June. I believe he's saying that definite proof of MJ being guilty will be proven in the documentary and talks about there being some tapes of MJ and minors that were found at "Neverland" many years ago before the 2003 raid. The translation is a bit confusing. Anyone here speak German?

I'm sure he's lying anyway. This guy is pathetic.
 
TheChosenOne said:
Are we sending these headlines to Drake? Asking for a friend ....

He, Oprah and John Legend had better NEVER have Michael's name in their mouths EVER again.
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Do not leave out Jamie L "jump on everything" curtis, Ellen, Barbara Streinstand, and a few others.
 
FBI, Sneddon, etc search the world and investigated all around the world. After these liars have been expose, no one is going to want to hear no more of this trash (people overall barley wanted to hear these liars). The gig is up.
 
Also, send this to this Maureen oath, Maureen daub of Nytimes; and what was the other egg head british guy who said there was going to be change in the next week when this trash air? Where is he at now?
 
Cinnamon234;4253377 said:
I'm sure Jacobshagen is lying anyway. This guy is pathetic.
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I understand why most fans are sensitive right now, but COME ON (not to you by the way).
Nobody should take this fraud seriously to panic so much.
I’m for sure he’s not getting a documentary with Hulu or Netflix.
After seeing LN and After Neverland basically flop with the responses not being what they thought along with the two liars being exposed, I’m for sure those two streaming sites will not take a movie headed by a man exposed for fraud.
 
ksat9;4253373 said:
I saw this comment yesterday and this was my exact thought.
If he admits the story is a lie to protect James’s appeal, then the legitimacy of the movie is in question.
If he protects his movie (which he is doing) by extending the years, then he’s calling James a perjurer and his appeal is definitely going in the trash.
If someone like the breakfast club or other urban media outlets gets to this, this will be the beginning of the end.

When Dan Reed has his next televised or radio interview (because I know it won’t be Wade and/or James) I would love to see the journalist ask him the question about the train station and then come back at him about their past comments about puberty.

For the meantime I would like to see someone like Razorfist update with the new factual (not eurodisney story) information to spread to others. His videos have a large amount of views to spread this truth.
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I hope we start hearing about this on those shows because they were not buying when it came out either. Needs to be tweeted to the Breakfast Club, Steve Harvey, Ricky Smiley, Tom Joyner, Rick and Shasha; Michael Baisden, Kiddnation, etc.
 
Watching the Miami Heat vs Boston Celtics on TV and they were blasting "Bad" in the Miami arena.
 
terrell;4253384 said:
I hope we start hearing about this on those shows because they were not buying when it came out either. Needs to be tweeted to the Breakfast Club, Steve Harvey, Ricky Smiley, Tom Joyner, Rick and Shasha; Michael Baisden, Kiddnation, etc.
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This.
If it spreads within the urban media and on urban blogs the general public will begin to see them for who they are if they already haven’t.

terrell;4253380 said:
FBI, Sneddon, etc search the world and investigated all around the world. After these liars have been expose, no one is going to want to hear no more of this trash (people overall barley wanted to hear these liars). The gig is up.
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And he’s less credible than these two clowns right now and their “stories” are imploding each day.
He came out with his “story” and most people laughed and moved on.
The only place to take him seriously was Australia and that entire special was a mess.
Yes, the gig has been up and most are not believing the lies or are beginning to see the three clowns for who they are.
I have to see it to believe it but he has so many holes and a whole special on his fraud activities compared to the other two.
 
20 victims? Yeah ok Jacobson. If Wade and James couldnt keep their stories straight how do you expect 20 other liars to? Whatever "evidense" he comes up with will be debunked. He says he has stuff from before the 2003 raid? So I guess the FBI was just lying when they proved nothing was found after 10 YEARS and you found something they couldnt? Is Jacobson their desperate backup plan or something? lol. It shows what class he has for planning on doing this in june smfh. Defamation of the dead needs to become illegal for this exact reason.
 
I have somewhat zoned Jacobson out, until he gets real media attention on his own (without piggy backing off of other allegations) no one gives a crap... He just piggy backs the drama and makes a quick buck and disappears.. weak!

He is a little weezle that comes out when the crows start eating... Hey, I think I just thought of a new nick name for him.

'The Bird Feeder'! ... He feeds the hungry media fast food stories that have no substance!
 
Robbsaber01 said:
20 victims? Yeah ok Jacobson. If Wade and James couldnt keep their stories straight how do you expect 20 other liars to? Whatever "evidense" he comes up with will be debunked. He says he has stuff from before the 2003 raid? So I guess the FBI was just lying when they proved nothing was found after 10 YEARS and you found something they couldnt? Is Jacobson their desperate backup plan or something? lol. It shows what class he has for planning on doing this in june smfh. Defamation of the dead needs to become illegal for this exact reason.
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Yeah I definitly belive they found things created by Jocobshagen.
When he said there will be videofootage with MJ and children ..... i must direcrly think about this new technic were you can put the faces of celebreties in porns and made it look like it is real.
I'm really disapointed that they will give Jobshagen a stage to speak before the airing of LN on german tv.
I guess when Gavin and Jordan will not find the courage and admit that they lied this nightmare never will find an end.
 
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Man idk what most of ya’ll are on but leave Drake outta all this mean really heck is wrong with people dude can never catch a break for nothing since everybody picks on him now
 
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