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What do You Think Now???

  • Now im Sure Its Michael!!!

    Votes: 89 21.4%

  • I Still Think its Not him!!!

    Votes: 223 53.7%

  • I now think that its Michael, but still have my doubts!!

    Votes: 24 5.8%

  • Im Confused!!!!

    Votes: 79 19.0%
  • Total voters
    415
  • Poll closed .
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sclirismj said:
so sony used the mjjcom board to release an official statement???you mean there is no statement in michaeljackson.com ???isn't it weird ???
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Hess said:
It would be absurd for SONY to release a statement via MJJC.
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that's not a statement by Sony, it's a statement by the estate which they sent to MJJC after Gaz communicated fan concerns to them.

in short we voiced our concerns and they responded to us, there is nothing weird or absurd about it.
 
Nighty said:
It's not just an opinion, it's visual and auditorial proof. Technicaly speaking.. But hey, music softwares tend to be crap, right...


Where's my coffee Agent Cooper?...
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Well I'm not totally insane you know. :p Other people have noticed the quality difference.
 
Nighty said:
It's not just an opinion, it's visual and auditorial proof. Technicaly speaking.. But hey, music softwares tend to be crap, right...


Where's my coffee Agent Cooper?...
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Yeah, right. Music software tends to lie and play jokes on us, a lot... apparently.
 
Hess said:
It would be absurd for SONY to release a statement via MJJC.
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That's the exact way all those conspiracy theorists think like.

"It's all weird. So weird. Can't be true."


The MJ Estate has issued the same statement to various MJ forums that have contacted them, I think.


And the conspiracy theorists will just say: "Yeah, of course, they would never admit it".



Oh man, this world is so lost...
 
ivy said:
that's not a statement by Sony, it's a statement by the estate which they sent to MJJC after Gaz communicated fan concerns to them.

in short we voiced our concerns and they responded to us, there is nothing weird or absurd about it.
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well that's weird to me,cause sony and the estate releases MICHAEL,and there is nothing from sony yet,nothing in michaeljackson.com
 
sclirismj;3068392 said:
well that's weird to me,cause sony and the estate releases MICHAEL,and there is nothing from sony yet,nothing in michaeljackson.com
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sony / epic had already released a public statement through media channels - which they didn't post on their website or on MJ.com either.

The record label has said that it has “complete confidence in the results of our extensive research, as well as the accounts of those who were in the studio with Michael, that the vocals on the new album are his own".

(copy the statement (the part in quotation marks) to google and hit search you'll see that more than 15,000 sites report it. )
 
Korgnex said:
That's the exact way all those conspiracy theorists think like.

"It's all weird. So weird. Can't be true."


The MJ Estate has issued the same statement to various MJ forums that have contacted them, I think.


And the conspiracy theorists will just say: "Yeah, of course, they would never admit it".



Oh man, this world is so lost...
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:lol:

If they have sent it to all forums it could be plausible. I thought they had put out their official statement via MJJC - which would be absurd.

If SONY has something regarding MJ that is important surely they release it through MJ's official website mj.com - AND NOT MJJC
 
how could you believe a damage-control "statement" when you have ears? when you have been listening to Michael since you were a 4-5 years old kid? it doesn't make any sense to me

maybe the other tracks on the album are real but not Breaking News ..
 
Steve001 said:
After returning to this thread and reading the last few pages, it's interesting to observe just how many members either have or are beginning to alter their initial opinions regarding 'Breaking News'.
This doesn't really surprise me when one sits back and considers what I believe is the bare reality of this entire fiasco.

It's all quite simple really...I believe the initial claims made by disgruntled members of the Jackson camp (namely 3T) about the authenticity of certain tracks on the forthcoming album came about and were spawned out of jealousy. Straight and simple.

Tito's son's appear to have been counting on their tracks with Mike to make an appearance on the album and in process raise their public profiles, which have been non-existent and dormant for way over a decade now. Which is a PR calamity for all but forgotten stars trying to jumpstart flagging careers in the business.
Also of note, since Taj has been proven to have been present when Cascio's people delivered Mike's raw vocal tracks to the Estate and selected producers, he was able to hear the Cascio's tracks at their private unveiling/s.
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In regards to Taj, he has also stated that there are songs on the album that are real and he supports those songs. So he is not 100% against the album, just the songs he believes are fake. Which are the Cascio tracks.



Steve001 said:
Furthermore, from a strictly business perspective, does anyone really believe, that a colossal worldwide conglomerate such as Sony/Epic would shell out hundreds of millions of dollars on supposed demo and unreleased tracks left behind by Michael Jackson, if there was any doubts about the authenticity!? If so, I highly doubt the higher ups were breaking out the bubbly after that deal was struck!
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Personally I think the song is a compilation of demo's and overall unreleased songs made by Michael made by Sony and whoever it is working on the album. I dont think Michael wrote the song, I believe the bass line is taken from another unheard MJ song. I believe the ad libs are taken from song that are already available to us and then topped off with Jason Malachi on the vocals! :punk:

Steve001 said:
The procedures and exhaustive testing that Sony and the Estate have dually undertaken on the soon to be released songs has been more than adequate...Not to mention all the guarantors, such as Swedien, Phillanganes and Holly...etc.
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Well you'd have to take there word for that of course. I personally dont believe any testing was done.

Steve001 said:
Taking a closer look at what the Estate has achieved since Mike's death is astonishing when you consider how the general public perceived Michael in the years preceding June 25th 2009. I'm not going to list them all here in the interest of keeping this post from becoming an essay lol...But projects such as the Cirque Du Doleil deal, MJ Experience, TII etc...Have all filled the Estate coffers with loads of cash and enhanced Michael's reputation and public perception. Quite impressive really.
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I wouldnt give the Estate credit for improving the public's perception of Michael after his death. I think that happened naturally with the fact people dont realise what they've got till its gone. It gave people a chance to reflect and re-consider their views on MJ.

They had done a good job though up until now.

Steve001 said:
It's clear that the two men MJ entrusted his professional dealings to have been right on the money for the most part thus far and certainly appear to have Mike's best interests as the core for their longterm business plan. In other word, they have much less of a reason to be dishonest about anything MJ musically or otherwise, say than, I dunno, three disgruntled nephews?
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It depends what you believe. If you believe it is MJ on these songs then of course your going to think they are doing a good job. If not, then you are going to think the opposite.

I'd like to point back to the point that Taj is not completely against the album and has stated he supports the songs that are MJ.

Lets not forget that his own Mother and kids dont think its MJ on the songs either. People can tell me they have been brainwashed all they want, I think those kids have minds of their own, as does Katherine.

Steve001 said:
Before I finish giving my opinions I have to mention that by vocalising their doubts about the Cascio tracks, the Jacksons knew the impact their claims would be fuelled within the painfully paranoid online fanbase, who they knew would overly analyze 'Breaking News', hear the lack of the all important MJ backing vocals etc and many would possibly conclude that the claims were legit. Combined with Mike singing in a lower register which I found refreshing, as I'm sure Mike did too, remember, Taj knew this as he was present at the Cascio/Estate drop off!
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Oh Steve, i'm suprised you took the route of claiming The Jacksons views had influenced ours. Many of the people here who believe it isnt MJ have thought so since the very first listen (myself included) in which we did not have the chance to over analyze.

Also if you go back to Sunday night, you will see many of us were Anti Jackson family. I can quote myself as saying (The Jacksons are going to look so stupid come Monday morning). I was dead wrong. As soon as that song came on, my smile turned into a look of shock and disgust.

Steve001 said:
In conclusion, In my opinion, 'Breaking News' is a killer track and certainly has the potential to crack the mainstream in a way that MJ hasn't since the release of You Are Not Alone! :)
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I'm glad you enjoy it. Personally I think I would love it had MJ actually sang on it. He allways had the ability to turn an average song into a great song.
 
Is there a confirmed new version streaming on MJ.com now? This is MUCH better! Why didn't they realease this immediately? I can't really tell what's changed technically, but I hear Michael and I love it!
 
Applehead Ale said:
damn i really thought it was MJ on BN but then i hear this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH2qOTNYAts&feature=player_embedded
idk what i am suppose to believe
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Yup everyone needs to listen to this Vocal Comparison between Michael and Jason..You hear that Goat vocal on BN that Jason has.Looks like BN is a fake, and Sony needs to take the Cascio crap off the album. Even if there are some Michael vocals, you can barely even hear them and these Cascio songs are so tainted, it's disgusting.. I want a Michael Jackson album.
 
Roosje said:
Is there a confirmed new version streaming on MJ.com now? This is MUCH better! Why didn't they realease this immediately? I can't really tell what's changed technically, but I hear Michael and I love it!
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I think it's still crap and it's still not MJ.
 
Roosje said:
Is there a confirmed new version streaming on MJ.com now? This is MUCH better! Why didn't they realease this immediately? I can't really tell what's changed technically, but I hear Michael and I love it!
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Hmmm... basically, what hass changed is your mind.
And/or your ears.

Check this, will ya?
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3067699&postcount=5217

THERE IS NO NEW VERSION!

But if after reading that, you still want to think a brand new magical version has been uploaded which makes your believe there's even more Michael than in Thriller... well..... then, be my guest.
 
deebee09 said:
Hmmm... basically, what hass changed is your mind.
And/or your ears.

Check this, will ya?
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3067699&postcount=5217

THERE IS NO NEW VERSION!

But if after reading that, you still want to think a brand new magical version has been uploaded which makes your believe there's even more Michael than in Thriller... well..... then, be my guest.
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Thank you. Maybe I AM going crazy, but I hear less distortion, mainly in 'Michael JackSON' and the beginning of the sentences seem to have more MJ clarity. Oh well, I can't explain, but whatever changed or did not change I like the song more than I did last monday... 'they think we're crazyyyyyy'
 
Aww man, I cant believe someone just compared the almighty vocals on Butterflies (one of MJ's greatest vocal performances of all time) to this....this Breaking News thing.

That says it all really.
 
L.T.D said:
Aww man, I cant believe someone just compared the almighty vocals on Butterflies (one of MJ's greatest vocal performances of all time) to this....this Breaking News thing.

That says it all really.
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Maybe he also thinks that BN has superior vocals than Butterflies :wild: :rofl: :tease:
 
Just listened again after a couple of days away. That's not Michael Jackson - no way. It sounds more like Peter Andre.

I've never doubted anything before, even 2000 Watts etc. But after 30 years of listening to his music, I do not believe this is him.

What I don't understand is why anyone would think this would be believed & accepted.
 
Stop being rude and show your fellow members some respect.
 
Tony R said:
Just listened again after a couple of days away. That's not Michael Jackson - no way. It sounds more like Peter Andre.

I've never doubted anything before, even 2000 Watts etc. But after 30 years of listening to his music, I do not believe this is him.

What I don't understand is why anyone would think this would be believed & accepted.
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Yep...agreed Tony..

That's a good question...a question that I cannot comprehend why they would, because, it almost feels as if they wanted us to catch what they were doing...It's not like it was done in some sort of secretive manner, it feels very obvious that people were going to question this song. Another question is why did they decide to Preview this very questionable song above all others? I do hope there is no intention by Sony to harm the sales of this album...I hope this is just a stupid mistake on their part and I hope that they will get rid of all questionable songs on the album.
 
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