"Breaking News" All General Discussion Here [Merged]

[L.T.D]

Well, Michael Jackson believed in John Mcclain and John Branca enough to put them in charge of his Estate, so isn't that a bit contradictory?

Michel believed in a lot of people in his lifetime who let him down. This is just another case of that.

 

[mj_insane]

Maybe we need to put a petition together ?????

 

[Anna]

Nobody is really talking about the fact that basically EVERYTIME a particular Jackson family member does not get their way, a project and/or thing is deemed to be FAKE!

The Will is FAKE!

The Executor's of the Estate should not be the Executor's of the Estate!

"This Is It" showcases a FAKE Michael Jackson!

Joe Jackson already made it clear that he does not support the Cirque du Soliel project.

I can only speak for myself, and I see a pattern of: "If I'm not included than it's a FAKE!"

They talk about preserving Michael's legacy, but in my opinion, they are doing more damage then anyone else with their continuous whining!

I agree.

 

[Arklove]

Bottom line is, it's irrelevant on the amount of Vocals Michael is on BN. They just need to get all "Questionable" songs off the album. They are playing with the fans emotions by putting a blatantly obvious questionable song. Get all the Cascio stuff off. If they don't, cancel the album.

...i agree...i don't care about the song anymore...just get it off there...unless Sony is deliberately sabotaging Mike....if they insist keeping the 'fake' stuff on the album, despite the fans' outcry...

 

[juantp1]

Excellent post! :clapping:

:clapping: :clapping: :clapping:

I really like that post too, it is excellent and it has a lot of sense.

I've been reading all posts since this morning and I personally like the song-- I mean, I went over to the webtsite again when I found that post where Gaz mentioned that there is a different version of BN-- and I really like it... I love the rythm, the violins, and the refreshing way Mike sang the song... (it reminds me of 2000 Watts, he sang it differently)...

I've been also listening to the song for the last 4 hours, and I love it-- and if I need to step out of my cubicule for a sec, either to go to the bathroom, or for any reason- that song is in my head and I start to sing it!!

I'm really looking forward to this album--

Every single thing is gonna be all right!

 

[mj_insane]

Nobody is really talking about the fact that basically EVERYTIME a particular Jackson family member does not get their way, a project and/or thing is deemed to be FAKE!

The Will is FAKE!

The Executor's of the Estate should not be the Executor's of the Estate!

"This Is It" showcases a FAKE Michael Jackson!

Joe Jackson already made it clear that he does not support the Cirque du Soliel project.

I can only speak for myself, and I see a pattern of: "If I'm not included than it's a FAKE!"

They talk about preserving Michael's legacy, but in my opinion, they are doing more damage then anyone else with their continuous whining!

Ok , put all that aside . Do u think that if Michael was still here , he would allow people to release songs and claim it was him singing ?
No . We , as fans , have a right to fight for our hero , to continue his legacy for generations to come . We have a right to defend him , because its not like he's here to defend himself . The only people he could rely on was his fans because everybody around him screwed him . Still , this is going on .

 

[Steve001]

It appears that certain members who disagree with my opinions are avoiding my post on page 350 (It was also quoted by Kikuchiyo on 351).

Thoughts?...

 

[Cheater]

I have just re-listened to Breaking News before posting in Gaz's final vote and in that thread he said he thinks its changed since Monday......hmm I thought.
Until earlier today I was well and truly in with the 'Fake' believers, but I did think some of it was Michael.
I listened to it again now on the Sony site and I agree with Gaz, something has changed as it now has that recognisable MJ feel that I didnt get much before. The first verse hasnt got that cringeable fakeness to it. I'm now sure that most if not all is MJ.
Just maybe they tried this one week release to see if they could get away with 'finishing' the songs with an outsider.
That is where I personally stand on this and I feel alot better about the whole thing now.
Who am I? I'm 26, followed Mike like many a fan through thick and thin, and have been listening to him for literally as long as I can remember.
This is in no way intended to insult the fans that believe that its fake/mostly fake.

 

[Tipareth]

Bye guys... this forum was excellent few days ago.... now is mess here....


I am gonna leave this Forum indefinitely. I am too sad to stay... gonna crawl in bed and take antidepressants.... The negativity is extremely powerful... :-(

 

[L.T.D]

It appears that certain members who disagree with my opinions are avoiding my post on page 350 (It was also quoted by Kikuchiyo on 351).

Thoughts?...

There isnt 350 pages in the thread. Do you mean? Post 350?

Theres no way im going to find that....haha

I dont see why any of us would avoid it...

Bye guys... this forum was excellent few days ago.... now is mess here....


I am gonna leave this Forum indefinitely. I am too sad to stay... gonna crawl in bed and take antidepressants.... The negativity is extremely powerful... :-(

Thanks for letting us know.

 

[Steve001]

There isnt 350 pages in the thread. Do you mean? Post 350?

Theres no way im going to find that....haha

I dont see why any of us would avoid it...



Thanks for letting us know.

Um...it's the previous page Luke lol ...There's also over 5200 posts in this thread by the way!

 

[Cheater]

It appears that certain members who disagree with my opinions are avoiding my post on page 350 (It was also quoted by Kikuchiyo on 351).

Thoughts?...

I agree with most points of your article, although I do think that they could have tried testing the water with an 'outsider' to 'finish' the vocals

 

[F D B]

There isnt 350 pages in the thread. Do you mean? Post 350?

Yeah man... there are actually more than 350 PAGES. 351 until now.

 

[Hess]

The new version on MJ.com sounds more like MJ to me.

Does anyone have the new version as mp3 download ? - Please PM me.

I would like to compare the old version to the new one.

I really think it is MJ afterall. Maybe we were wrong.

 

[L.T.D]

Yeah man... there are actually more than 350 PAGES. 351 until now.

It says there are 132 pages in this thread to me.

 

[F D B]

The new version on MJ.com sounds more like MJ to me.

Does anyone have the new version as mp3 download ? - Please PM me.

I would like to compare the old version to the new one.

I really think it is MJ afterall. Maybe we were wrong.

It's been said already, there's no new version.

Check this: http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3067699&postcount=5217

One of my first posts regarding the topic. Anyways..
All I want to point out is that the supposedly "new" version of Breaking News on MichaelJackson.com is not different from the original upload from this monday at all..
I recorded the original stream monday morning and re-recorded the "new" one about an hour ago, since so many claim that it's "newly mixes/EQ" or whatnot. Since I have a history of making DIY acapellas I figured I could try one of the DIY methods to see what happens. Technicaly, what happens when you mix 2 sounds/waveforms that are identical, they cancel each other out, turning into complete silence.. So I figured if the "new" version is mixed differently, some sounds will stay put - if it's the same mix as this monday it will turn into a straight line of silence.. And yeah, here's the result - I only recorded about a minute of the "new" mix (first verse and first chorus) into the old mix (from this monday) and it turned silent... So conclusion - there's no difference in the mix from this monday, it's the same file so the fact that some people all of a sudden thinks it sounds more like Michael now is just playing their own heads..


The gap in the picture is the first verse and chorus blanked out after the mix..

If anyone wants me to go through this step by step and don't belive my picture evidence, just shout out...

 

[F D B]

It says there are 132 pages in this thread to me.

It must have something to do with your option settings. Yours might be showing much more posts per page, than mine.

 

[lotrmj]

I still don't believe what "experts" say... I still think it's not MJ singing... However this guy Cascio doesn't seem to be bad guy either... :/

 

[GeorgeDK]

Bye guys... this forum was excellent few days ago.... now is mess here....


I am gonna leave this Forum indefinitely. I am too sad to stay... gonna crawl in bed and take antidepressants.... The negativity is extremely powerful... :-(

Sorry to hear that, but do not let the negativity get to you :cheeky:

 

[L.T.D]

It must have something to do with your option settings. Yours might be showing much more posts per page, than mine.

Yeah i'm thinking thats the problem. I may go and change it.

 

[KOPV]

Can anyone make Jason Malachi's "let me let go" acapella so we can hear his agressive notes and really hear it.. Listening to Breaking news acapella does sound more like TRUE Mike but I'm hearing some difference in the agressive notes.. some things are pointing towards jason like the vibratto and the agressive notes, while sertian things sound like Mike that people in the studio would over look.. his breathing patters between sentances, and the way he pronouces words that have a "uh" sound.. if michael said things like.. "love" "flood" "blood" etc.. it sounds more like.. "floud" a "ewa" sound in the middle where I'm hearing it.. when the song says "LOVE" I hear the MJ accent which is unique to him.. but of course people could immitate it but I'd think normally it would be overlooked..

 

[Anna]

The new version is slightly different. I think it's just the quality. It sounds better.

 

[JacksonMan]

is it true that you able to download the song breaking news if you pre order the album?

 

[Steve001]

Would just like to point out that there is no "new" version on michaeljackson.com. It's the same as it always was...Ever since the stream began, each time you play the track, the quality switches from HQ to something such as MP3 throughout various parts of the track at random.

Just to deter people from ripping the track from the site. You'll notice this when the 'Breaking News' logo colour fades, indicating that the lower quality audio is streaming for the next 20 seconds or so until the logo's colour returns, indicating the HQ stream. I can't believe how many lines that took to explain! lol... Each time you play the track, the quality fades will appear in different parts of the track.

 

[Big Apple2]

The "Breaking News" controversy is the NEW "This Is NOT It" controversy.

I pray that everytime a new Michael Jackson project is released we don't have to go through a "This Is A FAKE" period.

Next up: The Cirque du Soleil project. Can't really say that's a fake, but I'm almost positive that SOMETHING will be brought to the forefront in order to disrupt the project.

 

[JacksonMan]

The new version on MJ.com sounds more like MJ to me.

Does anyone have the new version as mp3 download ? - Please PM me.

I would like to compare the old version to the new one.

I really think it is MJ afterall. Maybe we were wrong.

Can somebody please give me either version via PM? I need to put it on my mp3 to dance. I can't dance at my computer. Where is this new version? MJ. com is not a real web address. Please somebody tell me very quickly where to hear this new version. Please.

 

[82Thriller84]

Would just like to point out that there is no "new" version on michaeljackson.com. It's the same as it always was...Ever since the stream began, each time you play the track, the quality switches from HQ to something such as MP3 throughout various parts of the track at random.

Just to deter people from ripping the track from the site. You'll notice this when the 'Breaking News' logo colour fades, indicating that the lower quality audio is streaming for the next 20 seconds or so until the logo's colour returns, indicating the HQ stream. I can't believe how many lines that took to explain! lol... Each time you play the track, the quality fades will appear in different parts of the track.

I have noticed that also, I thought i was crazy, I thought it was just me :lol:
Got me thinking it was some weird edited version :doh:

 

[KOPV]

theres always drama around anything MJ.. the cirque show will have something with publishing rights for something.. watch.. either using his image, specific audio, or staging.. WATCH!!

I don't understand however why people would boycott the new MJ album because of this?? even if there are 2-3 TOTALLY fake tracks i'd still buy it for the 10 or so tracks that are Mikes.. OR buy each song off itunes that I do support.. BUT u know I am buying the damn thing.. lol..

 

[Graf]

Would just like to point out that there is no "new" version on michaeljackson.com. It's the same as it always was...Ever since the stream began, each time you play the track, the quality switches from HQ to something such as MP3 throughout various parts of the track at random.

Just to deter people from ripping the track from the site. You'll notice this when the 'Breaking News' logo colour fades, indicating that the lower quality audio is streaming for the next 20 seconds or so until the logo's colour returns, indicating the HQ stream. I can't believe how many lines that took to explain! lol... Each time you play the track, the quality fades will appear in different parts of the track.

Yep..your right, when I listen to it, it sounds the exact same..

 

[Applehead Ale]

After returning to this thread and reading the last few pages, it's interesting to observe just how many members either have or are beginning to alter their initial opinions regarding 'Breaking News'.
This doesn't really surprise me when one sits back and considers what I believe is the bare reality of this entire fiasco.

It's all quite simple really...I believe the initial claims made by disgruntled members of the Jackson camp (namely 3T) about the authenticity of certain tracks on the forthcoming album came about and were spawned out of jealousy. Straight and simple.

Tito's son's appear to have been counting on their tracks with Mike to make an appearance on the album and in process raise their public profiles, which have been non-existent and dormant for way over a decade now. Which is a PR calamity for all but forgotten stars trying to jumpstart flagging careers in the business.
Also of note, since Taj has been proven to have been present when Cascio's people delivered Mike's raw vocal tracks to the Estate and selected producers, he was able to hear the Cascio's tracks at their private unveiling/s.

The point is, there must be no doubt that he would have noticed the absence of Mike's backing vocals over the chorus of Breaking News and to a lesser extent the whole track. The inevitable result in MJ's case is a rough vocal demo without the benifit of Michael's polishing with his layered vocals etc, will sound quite different when compared to Mike's official releases. It's safe to assume 3T's tracks probably have more vocals by Mike too. With all this, Taj and co. clearly felt they had ammuntion against the Cascio's and the Estate months later (now) when he's received confirmation that 3T's tracks didn't make the final cut.

What other reason could there possibly be for him to wait until the very last minute to make it public knowledge that one of the most historically important musical releases ever may in fact be fraudulent!? Even when he made mention that he had these "doubts" right from the get-go!? Any rational person who claims to be as outraged and concerned as MJ's nephews and the comical LaToya Jackson (anyone recall 1993!?), surely would have become whistleblowers much earlier in the piece?

Furthermore, from a strictly business perspective, does anyone really believe, that a colossal worldwide conglomerate such as Sony/Epic would shell out hundreds of millions of dollars on supposed demo and unreleased tracks left behind by Michael Jackson, if there was any doubts about the authenticity!? If so, I highly doubt the higher ups were breaking out the bubbly after that deal was struck!

The procedures and exhaustive testing that Sony and the Estate have dually undertaken on the soon to be released songs has been more than adequate...Not to mention all the guarantors, such as Swedien, Phillanganes and Holly...etc.

Taking a closer look at what the Estate has achieved since Mike's death is astonishing when you consider how the general public perceived Michael in the years preceding June 25th 2009. I'm not going to list them all here in the interest of keeping this post from becoming an essay lol...But projects such as the Cirque Du Doleil deal, MJ Experience, TII etc...Have all filled the Estate coffers with loads of cash and enhanced Michael's reputation and public perception. Quite impressive really.

It's clear that the two men MJ entrusted his professional dealings to have been right on the money for the most part thus far and certainly appear to have Mike's best interests as the core for their longterm business plan. In other word, they have much less of a reason to be dishonest about anything MJ musically or otherwise, say than, I dunno, three disgruntled nephews?

Before I finish giving my opinions I have to mention that by vocalising their doubts about the Cascio tracks, the Jacksons knew the impact their claims would be fuelled within the painfully paranoid online fanbase, who they knew would overly analyze 'Breaking News', hear the lack of the all important MJ backing vocals etc and many would possibly conclude that the claims were legit. Combined with Mike singing in a lower register which I found refreshing, as I'm sure Mike did too, remember, Taj knew this as he was present at the Cascio/Estate drop off!

In conclusion, In my opinion, 'Breaking News' is a killer track and certainly has the potential to crack the mainstream in a way that MJ hasn't since the release of You Are Not Alone!

great post