Re: News and discussion about possible upcoming MJ album
Very interesting, so you would say.. around 4 more albums are possible with Song's recorded from 1998-2009 then? that is great news! one album, once every 5 years I'd say? that's 15 years which would take us to the year 2032! best option in my opinion, then.. I think is the time the collectors label will be done! I know it's far down the line but they won't want to lose material by 2017. I'm being realistic and this is what I think should happen! let's not forget, Elvis' Collectors label began 21? years after his death and they have released over 100 CD's! Outtakes etc. I'm expecting to get these kind of releases. I'm not expecting a release every year. there is my opinion, discuss your thought's (yes, brain is turned on
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Zakk James Joseph (my father's dad's middle name is Joseph) Bates.
Just to clarify, I'm not saying that there are thirty releasable
Invincible outtakes; I'm saying that I (and the fan community as a whole) know of thirty titles that were worked on at that time. As far as we know there could only be seven songs remaining from those sessions. The same can be applied to
Thriller, Dangerous, etc.
What the actual f man? Stop spreading false information, please, I told you.
Akon has no complete tracks. They finished only "Hold My Hand".
Rodney Jerkins has ONLY 4 songs in releaseble state.
This isn't false information. (For those of you looking for sources, all of this can be found through a simple YouTube video search.)
1) Rodney Jerkins and Teddy Riley both visited Michael in Ireland, as confirmed by Paddy Dunning, proprietor of Grouse Lodge. Rodney also said sometime in 2008 that he wasn't producing for Michael at that moment but was open to do some tracks with him down the road. Again, you can find it in a YouTube video search.
2) That's what I said: they only finished Hold My Hand. But they did work on other songs. Akon has said that he has other recordings, all of which are majorly incomplete.
3) Rodney has eight as I have been told.
Actually, according to Teddy Riley, they have put out all songs MJ did with Riley without "Joy".
I don't take Teddy's word seriously anymore. On one day he says he doesn't have any outtakes, on another he says he has several, on another he says he only has Joy from 1990. He changes his story daily. I know of at least ONE collaboration that has to exist in some form -- Vibrationist from 1998, as registered with the US Copyright Office.
While MJ did start many, many songs he only progressed relatively few beyond the rough demo stage, and MJ's rough demos were very very basic.
Even fewer made it to a more advanced stage that would be considered releasable. I think it's very clear that MJ only produced a few outtakes for each album released, and that often those outtakes were carried forward to a future album, therefore reducing the number of 'nearly finished' songs in the vault.
It's a very telling sign when Riley himself says there is only one unreleased MJ/Riley collaboration.
MJ fans who are STILL expecting there to be loads of songs left in the vault really need to think again. I think they will face disappointment in the long run.
As I said in 2010, the Michael album was a signal that the material in the vault is very limited in quality and quantity. Obviously I was not involved in that album but if I was, I would have said to release the best quality material at that time to create a massively successful album that would set the tone for MJ's posthumous legacy. The fact we got those songs at that time demonstrates that there is a very limited supply of material.
This is simply not true.
1) Take one listen to the dozens of demos that we have. Cheater, Beautiful Girl, I'm So Blue, Fall Again, I Am a Loser, The Girl is Mine. These are all tracks that most other artists would consider finished, save for a few embellishments here and there. Many of Michael's demos are in FINE state. I already stated my opinion on the Riley case.
2)
Michael was meant to represent the newer material Michael recorded post-trial, which is majorly lacking. Considering the fact that will.i.am refused to hand his over and RedOne refused to allow his collaborations released unless the proceeds were donated to a charity, they really had to be cautious with what they put out from that era. Which explains their excitement to add the Cascios to the roster when the found them.
3) The next album isn't a duets album. Teddy Riley even said that he doesn't know what the next project is; he only hyped the duets album because the estate told him to.
As a whole, we actually know of more FINISHED material than we do UNFINISHED.
1. Escape
2. Can't Get Your Weight Off Of Me
3. Cheater - Reworked Version
4. Chicago 1945 - Reworked Version
5. Get Around - Reworked Version
6. Kick It
7. Maybe We Can Do It
8. Pressure
9. The Pain
Do we have confirmation that these are even finished?
As far as the public is aware, yes. Maybe We Can Do It (featuring P. Diddy) is finished, as Diddy said in an interview back in 2001; Can't Get Your Weight Off of Me is finished, as those who possess the track have confirmed; and Escape is finished, as we are all very well aware. The other songs remain unclear.
