Xscape General Discussion

Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Assuming the deluxe version is for hardcore fans- Not sure it makes sense to include the JT duet on the deluxe version. If at all it was needed in the first place, it made more sense to have it on the regular album as a bonus for casual listeners.

Im not convinced hardcore fans will be keen on the JT duet.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Michael's not gonna shine on his own. Face it. If it was just him, this single probably would be a commercial flop.

You can't be serious? Who the hell care how song does in chart. You actually want them to rework and destroy Michael's music just so it can chart.

Even if it does go number one it doesn't actually count as Michael's music in my opinion.

Fact is the Estate has no faith in Michaels music and fans defend them.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

AHHHH I'm so excited!!! This is easily the greatest project that the Estate and Sony have done for Michael since he passed away. THANK YOU!!!

Can't believe I'm going to be able to download a NEW MICHAEL JACKSON SONG within a few hours too!!! :woohoo:
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Are you being serious? Sorry but that is ludicrous

Fair enough. Point me to a top twenty single Michael has had in the United States since he died.

You can't be serious? Who the hell care how song does in chart. You actually want them to rework and destroy Michael's music just so it can chart.

I don't care how it charts; honestly, I would rather have an incredible song not chart whatsoever than have a poor song chart highly. But if the estate wants a hit, they need Timberlake.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Fair enough. Point me to a top twenty single Michael has had in the United States since he died.



I don't care how it charts; honestly, I would rather have an incredible song not chart whatsoever than have a poor song chart highly. But if the estate wants a hit, they need Timberlake.

The problem is they need integrity and honesty. Not go after charts and modern music.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Are you being serious?

It's kinda true if you think about it. In 2012, they released Don't Be Messin' as the first single for Bad 25 and look what happened to it..now imagine how long Slave to the Rhythm has been on youtube and not a single non-mj fan noticed it up until that stupid JB had to leak his own version. I think the Estate and Sony are making the right decisions for this album if not eh, the only important things are to attract the public for this album and think how MJ would've wanted this album to be
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

The Girl Is Mine was released from Thriller as the first single for commercial reasons - to get white radios play Thriller. So it's not like a similar trick wasn't done in MJ's lifetime. It's a bit similar situation IMO: back then you had to catch the attention of a white audience, now you have to catch the attention of a young generation.

The difference is that Mike decided to collaborate with will. Now with this situation, it'd be forcing an artificial duet.

That comment you said AlwaysThere was absolutely cruel and pessimist.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

The problem is they need integrity and honesty. Not go after charts and modern music.

Because no other dead artist has had their music finished posthumously.

Oh wait. It happens all the time. Amy Winehouse, Tupac, John Lennon, Notorious B.I.G.

The difference here is that their estates don't give us the original versions, to uphold the singer's artistic integrity. Michael's estate is.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

God, i'm so excited!!!! :D
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

You can't be serious? Who the hell care how song does in chart. You actually want them to rework and destroy Michael's music just so it can chart.

Even if it does go number one it doesn't actually count as Michael's music in my opinion.

Fact is the Estate has no faith in Michaels music and fans defend them.

I care about how the song does in charts. It was very important to Michael and it should be very important to his Estate and his fans.

Nobody want them to "destroy Michael's music just so it can chart". Some of us want exactly what they are doing now. Finishing unfinished songs, making them current and relevant and doing all that professionally and respectfully and with LOVE.

Estate have very much faith in Michael's music. That's why they are releasing all this. Adding Justin Timberlake to an unfinished song is very respectful if it's done right (just like Quincy and Michael did for Minnie Riperton).
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Are the original demo's being Mastered by Bernie Grundman also, or just the contemporized versions? it's possible that 'You' was the working title during the BAD era sessions.. who knows? we'll see! looking forward to hearing these tracks in true definition.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

You can't be serious? Who the hell care how song does in chart. You actually want them to rework and destroy Michael's music just so it can chart.

Even if it does go number one it doesn't actually count as Michael's music in my opinion.

You have got the demos!!! Can you understand that? So no one destroys MJ's music for you. You can opt to listen to only to the demos.

Fact is the Estate has no faith in Michaels music and fans defend them.

I guess then MJ did not have faith in his own music when he released TGIM from Thriller as the first single...

He did not have faith in his own music when instead of putting demos on Thriller 25 he went for current artists reworking his hits...
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Are the original demo's being Mastered by Bernie Grundman also, or just the contemporized versions? it's possible that 'You' was the working title during the BAD era sessions.. who knows? we'll see! looking forward to hearing these tracks in true definition.

The entire album was mastered by Grundman apparently. They're really doing this right! :)
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

The problem is they need integrity and honesty. Not go after charts and modern music.

They also need to make money you know, not just trying to please the fanatics. They are giving you all the demos, what more do need??
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

The entire album was mastered by Grundman apparently. They're really doing this right! :)

great decision on there part, Grundman is the god of cd mastering! it will hear ''glorioussss'' *in bruce swedien's voice* :D
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

DVD:
- Xscape Documentary (L.A. Reid and the producers discuss their experiences on this project)
- Xscape Documentary Outtakes

So no music video? - outtakes? like when they say something wrong and laughs or what does that mean??

I hope both Documentary and Outtakes are long. - 1 hour at least!
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

The difference is that Mike decided to collaborate with will. Now with this situation, it'd be forcing an artificial duet.

The difference is that MJ is dead now. Fans should accept that at last. Unless they don't want anything from him to be released any more because he cannot approve it.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Fair enough. Point me to a top twenty single Michael has had in the United States since he died.


Chart 2009-2010
Man In The Mirror
US Billboard Hot Digital Songs: 2


Aha gotchaa
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It's kinda true if you think about it. In 2012, they released Don't Be Messin' as the first single for Bad 25 and look what happened to it..now imagine how long Slave to the Rhythm has been on youtube and not a single non-mj fan noticed it up until that stupid JB had to leak his own version. I think the Estate and Sony are making the right decisions for this album if not eh, the only important things are to attract the public for this album and think how MJ would've wanted this album to be

Nobody could be that naive to believe that an unfinished demo from 1986, where Michael mumbles the words would charter?. All we need is a good song and the conglomerates to market and promote it with music videos and getting radio stations to play the song and voila.
 
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Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

That comment you said AlwaysThere was absolutely cruel and pessimist.

But realistic. So many fans anymore are delusional and think, "Oh, it's Michael Jackson, so immediately people are going to love it!" Wrong. Dead wrong.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Chart 2009-2010
Man In The Mirror
US Billboard Hot Digital Songs: 2

Aha gotchaa

You ALMOST got me. Allow me to elaborate: point me to a Michael Jackson song that was released after he died that charted in the top 20 on the Billboard Hot 100.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

I'm really excited to wake up tomorrow to great, great music. If I don't like the remix (pretty safe bet I'll love it) there's always the original or I can delete the track and wait for the other songs to release as it's only a side remix, not a completely different, unavailable elsewhere track.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

They did it to get more stable airplay. Radios don't play veteran artists that's a fact, so they needed this to make them pay attention and hopefully pave the way for the next singles!
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Fair enough. Point me to a top twenty single Michael has had in the United States since he died.



I don't care how it charts; honestly, I would rather have an incredible song not chart whatsoever than have a poor song chart highly. But if the estate wants a hit, they need Timberlake.

You ALMOST got me. Allow me to elaborate: point me to a Michael Jackson song that was released after he died that charted in the top 20 on the Billboard Hot 100.

Nono you only get to ask one question, that's the rules my friend:D

Comeon man let's rejoice, a couple of more hours before the unveiling of a new song! I seriously don't have the slightest idea about what they'll be doing tonight. The suspense is killing me!
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

First time in a LONG time I'm genuinely excited for a new MJ project and have really high hopes. Bad 25 I was excited for, just knew the VHS would be a problem for others. Michael is self explanatory and Vision is too. Let's do this!
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

I'm really excited to wake up tomorrow to great, great music. If I don't like the remix (pretty safe bet I'll love it) there's always the original or I can delete the track and wait for the other songs to release as it's only a side remix, not a completely different, unavailable elsewhere track.

I love to read all your positive great posts! - It's great with some optimism and happiness!

I am not a big fan of JT - but this is just a bonus track on the deluxe edition - and I am very sure I will like the duet version too! - I will propably prefer MJ solo version - the track on the album, but now I get both! - Nothing to complain about really!

I get the SOLO MJ song - and if JT can help promote the song - and the album - it's great really!! - What's not to like???
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

they did it to get more stable airplay. Radios don't play veteran artists that's a fact, so they needed this to make them pay attention and hopefully pave the way for the next singles!

this!
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

I have news on NBC now, and you?
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Nono you only get to ask one question, that's the rules my friend:D

Comeon man let's rejoice, a couple of more hours before the unveiling of a new song! I seriously don't have the slightest idea about what they'll be doing tonight. The suspense is killing me!

Hey now, I make the rules and I'll say what I want! ;)

Kidding, of course. It definitely irks me a bit when fans get everything they could possibly want and yet still find something to complain about. It's reasons like this that I toy with the idea of leaving the community and never looking back.
 
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