Xscape General Discussion

Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Why Michael Jackson fans cannot stop complaining...

Don't worry Athena, it's only the same few fans.

The trouble is, they are persistent in repeating the same things, over and over again. So it just seems like there is a lot of them. :D
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

I am super positive!! From the minute I knew timbaland was on board!
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

woke up just for that Xscape thing on BRFM lol i don't think they play new sounds i've been on their stream for an hour they got some good 60s/70s (California Dreamin' now) Kewl but anyways :s oO
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

So was the Xscape song played on that radio?
 
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The idea of having a talentless artist puke all over an annoying artist and offering what many consider to be a subpar Photoshop job can't be compared. That's ridiculous. Besides, there isn't a single photo from the post-Invincible era that doesn't look Photoshopped to within an inch of its life, doesn't look like it would work on the cover of an album, or just looks bad all together. This photo looks current enough, and actually displays his actual face (to a degree).

i do NOT have a problem with PHOTOSHOPPED MJ PICS as long as it looks GREAT and make MJ look GREAT. (His eyes here are beautiful with intense stare okay) The thing here is this artwork composition SUCKS BECAUSE it makes MJ looks stupid wearing that stupid comfy cone that also looks like some stainless steel net filter. It'd be much better if he just ps a mask over his face. something like this looks a gazillion times better than a comfy cone if the designer really wanted to put forth his idea of evoking mass of mystery, magic.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BkPYM_wCUAgjnvk.jpg:large
 
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Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

No, the song won't be played on the radio because Michael Jackson Estate has forbidden any airplay yet!
 
Well, this is what I'm looking forward
"But it was still a kind of wonder to hear that man-woman voice so utterly unlike any other, rude with vitality and power, flying through the octaves while simultaneously punctuating itself with those inimitable yelps and shrieks. And the producers seem to have responded in kind, digging out some of their most glistening beats and loops to burnish and embroider Jackson’s singing."
 
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Yes, the estate are holding back several song's! including the post trial song's and various other's from the invincible sessions for the future. At this moment in time we must cherish the gifts we are currently receiving. Michael deserves to be celebrated. 56,000 Pre Sale Orders in Europe currently. I hope the first single will be released soon with Commercials and other extensive promotion. http://kworb.net/eua/

So according to that link Xscape has sold 56,000 in Eu and 47,00 worldwide?
Those number are for Xscape, and not for Deluxe Xscape?
I would think fans buys Deluxe over normal one, and earlier somebody posted that is has already sold over 250,000, which can be possible if you take above numbers for normal Xscape and add numbers for Deluxe?
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

So according to that link Xscape has sold 56,000 in Eu and 47,00 worldwide?
Those number are for Xscape, and not for Deluxe Xscape?
I would think fans buys Deluxe over normal one, and earlier somebody posted that is has already sold over 250,000, which can be possible if you take above numbers for normal Xscape and add numbers for Deluxe?

it honestly doesn't make any sense to me that europe has higher figures than worldwide? very interesting.. looking forward to seeing what the official numbers are, perhaps someone can get in touch with the estate for official pre sale figures that are up to date including digital and physical copies sold as of now?
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

it honestly doesn't make any sense to me that europe has higher figures than worldwide? very interesting.. looking forward to seeing what the official numbers are, perhaps someone can get in touch with the estate for official pre sale figures that are up to date including digital and physical copies sold as of now?

If that site is reliable and the numbers are correct, Xscape is doing very well considering that people are buying from various places (amazon etc), not only iTunes:yes:
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

It'd be much better if he just ps a mask over his face. something like this looks a gazillion times better than a comfy cone if the designer really wanted to put forth his idea of evoking mass of mystery, magic.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BkPYM_wCUAgjnvk.jpg:large

Mmm nah, that doesn't look as good as the actual artwork in my opinion (though he looks a bit like a ninja hehe). Judging by the album name and how I interpreted the actual artwork, the designer was probably looking to show how MJ felt trapped and wanted to escape (as a number of his songs are related to the idea of 'escaping')... more so than the element of mystery anyway.

I mean the damn thing looks like it's about to swallow MJ up, wouldn't you want to escape if you were in his position? :p
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

i do NOT have a problem with PHOTOSHOPPED MJ PICS as long as it looks GREAT and make MJ look GREAT. (His eyes here are beautiful with intense stare okay) The thing here is this artwork composition SUCKS BECAUSE it makes MJ looks stupid wearing that stupid comfy cone that also looks like some stainless steel net filter. It'd be much better if he just ps a mask over his face. something like this looks a gazillion times better than a comfy cone if the designer really wanted to put forth his idea of evoking mass of mystery, magic.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BkPYM_wCUAgjnvk.jpg:large


I'm really sorry you feel like this bad25. I'm sorry you don't see what many of us see. :group:
Stainless steel is in fashion by the way :D
Thing is, Most of us really agree that they did right with the choice of cover. It Is a conversation piece. It IS original. It IS exciting and maybe penetrating....Loud .. It certainly seems to match the Xscape snippet we were given so I believe the Strong imagery will also be a reflection of the sound inside.

Just wait till you see it physically dear? His eyes are beautiful bad25 ...i'm so glad they focused on his whole face. It is recent enough for me and it is so cleverly created...might I say lovingly created/selected [?]
Anyways it really does look like it was taken just yesterday. That's the magic of Maitland's craft.

I love reading peoples views and what this cover art image might mean to them. Because in art we all see things differently, No one is wrong .
 
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Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

The cover is great. The songs are gonna be great. Even the UK media didn't rubbish it! That's gotta be a good sign.

Xscape has got a great vibe. Please just for once let's enjoy it and just let the music do it's thing.

It's all we have now. Nothing is gonna be perfect anymore but that amazing voice remains.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

There is no reason to complain, if you're upset about us getting *Leaked* song's then it's your fault of listening to them in the first place. It's no one's fault other than your own. Fans appreciate the official releases we are getting from Sony & The Estate, this is a time to celebrate Michael's genius. He continues to thrill the world and will do so for many generations to come. I am very excited for release day.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Why ruining his lips and putting a dog cone on him? Michael was a very handsome man, I agree with Birchey it seems taboo using an actual recent picture of Michael on his albums. I've seen more impressive photoshops from fans than the guy who created the cover, it didn't make him justice IMO but like I said before, we can't have everything.

It would be interesting to see a cover design by a female art director. I'd like to see a woman's view/ interpretation of Michael for a change.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

I'm surprised no one has mention this yet, but what about a hidden track ?
A lot of artists do it now
What if there is 9 songs on the album but it's only credited as 8 ( as in there's a hidden track)
Say She Was Lovin' Me is 3, then before 4 (A Place With No Name), there is Chicago (separated song)
This would explain all the confusion.
Just a thought...
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Well said Zakk
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Fanmade Video, i personally love this.. it promotes Michael's other worldly Presence with that Pure voice:
 
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The cover is great. The songs are gonna be great. Even the UK media didn't rubbish it! That's gotta be a good sign.

Xscape has got a great vibe. Please just for once let's enjoy it and just let the music do it's thing.

It's all we have now. Nothing is gonna be perfect anymore but that amazing voice remains.

I'm surprised by the reaction of British media regarding this release! It must be good!

Daily mail writes:
Jackson's CD from beyond the grave isn't Bad at all: New Xscape album features eight tracks from the vaults brought up to date by modern artists

Were he alive today, Michael Jackson would probably be heartened by the state of pop.
He would certainly find plenty of familiar faces from his Eighties heyday, with George Michael’s latest album topping the charts and Prince and Kate Bush the hottest live tickets of the year.
As an influence, too, the singer, who died in 2009, remains a towering figure, and the legacy of albums such as Off The Wall and Thriller is still evident in the lithe dance music of Daft Punk and Justin Timberlake.

All of which makes the release next month of a ‘new’ album by the King Of Pop rather timely. The good news for fans is that Xscape, eight Jackson tunes culled from the vaults and ‘contemporised’ by leading dance producers, is a marked improvement on 2010’s dismal Michael.

The making of Xscape — a record that continues the Jackson tradition of single-word album titles — was overseen by Epic Records boss LA Reid, a judge on the American version of The X Factor and a respected musician in his own right.

Granted access to four decades’ worth of unreleased songs, all with finished vocals, Reid enlisted a handful of co-producers, including hip-hop maestro Timbaland and R&B kingpin Rodney Jerkins, to work on the master tapes.
‘Michael left behind some performances that we take great pride in presenting through producers he either worked with or expressed a strong desire to work with,’ Reid says.

‘I’m usually a cynic when it comes to posthumous albums, but we’ve tried to stay true to everything that would have made Michael proud.’

Reid is as good as his word. If the Michael album was a mish-mash, Xscape is more coherent, and there are no doubts as to the singer’s lively presence.
Jackson, whose distinctive vocals are positioned centrally in the overall studio mix, sounds as if he is actually enjoying himself.

He sings with soulful verve, and there are even a few of those ad-libbed yelps and squeals that could only have come from him. As for the material, two main strands are apparent.

There are the numbers with the classic, retro feel of Off The Wall, complete with orchestrations. Then there are the tracks where Reid’s ‘contemporising’ comes more into play, with a harder- hitting, electronic backdrop.
With swish disco strings and youthful sounding vocals, two of the first three tracks fall into the former category, harking back to the Seventies and Eighties.

Echoes of Jackson’s glory years abound elsewhere: one song adopts a groove similar to the immortal Wanna Be Startin’ Somethin’; another track, A Place With No Name, combines glam-rock drums with a bassline reminiscent of the 1987 hit The Way You Make Me Feel.

It also, bizarrely, closes with a vocal refrain lifted from soft-rock band America’s 1972 hit A Horse With No Name.

Two of the more contemporary tracks will be familiar to hardened Jackson-watchers. The busy Slave To The Rhythm (not the Grace Jones song) was recorded in 1991 and earmarked for the Dangerous album.

A cover version by Justin Bieber leaked onto the net last year. But, as with many of the funkier tracks here, the booming blend of synths and strings give the song a cluttered feel, suggesting the producers have sometimes gone too far in polishing their rough diamond.

Much the same applies to the album’s title track, beefed up from a version recorded at the same time as 2001’s Invincible. Here, though, a whooping Jackson is in imperious form.

When critics were invited to this week’s playback, the attendant email (which didn’t mention the singer by name) heralded these songs as ‘the best you’ve never heard’.

That may be the case. Jackson had reportedly stockpiled more than 200 unfinished tracks before his death, but few are likely to possess the quality of these expertly updated period pieces.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

It would be interesting to see a cover design by a female art director. I'd like to see a woman's view/ interpretation of Michael for a change.

There might be gold pants involved in the cover then............:ph34r:
 
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it honestly doesn't make any sense to me that europe has higher figures than worldwide? very interesting.. looking forward to seeing what the official numbers are, perhaps someone can get in touch with the estate for official pre sale figures that are up to date including digital and physical copies sold as of now?

I don't think those are sales numbers. They are called Pts which is supposedly points. Who knows how they are counted.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Just a thought: Does Sony/the estate know how many units will be sold of the standard/deluxe edition? Or do they count as one (for them and also for the charts)? If they are separate, shouldn't we ONLY buy the deluxe version, to "signal" the estate that you also CAN be sucessful with (additional) original versions?
I want both though for the different cover...
 
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Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Ugh I knew that UK radio DJ was too good to be true.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Yes, the estate are holding back several song's! including the post trial song's and various other's from the invincible sessions for the future. At this moment in time we must cherish the gifts we are currently receiving. Michael deserves to be celebrated. 56,000 Pre Sale Orders in Europe currently. I hope the first single will be released soon with Commercials and other extensive promotion. http://kworb.net/eua/

These are NOT sales estimations, this site does not give any sales numbers. It only shows the popularity of an album, single or an artist. Go to their FAQ section to get the info on how the points are calculated.

Let's not spread any incorrect sales numbers. Sales will come from other more official sources, not from Kworb which is really a fan site.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Just a thought: Does Sony/the estate know how many units will be sold of the standard/deluxe edition? Or do they count as one (for them and also for the charts)? If they are separate, shouldn't we ONLY buy the deluxe version, to "signal" the estate that you also CAN be sucessful with (additional) original versions?
I want both though for the different cover...

Hopefully the deluxe edition includes both covers (gold slipcase, gray booklet). I think it was like that for the deluxe Immortal release.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Been in touch with HMV, they will be giving information on the Xscape deluxe edition on Monday. :D

''Hi Zakk

It should be on our system from tomorrow so we'll be able to give you more info then.

Thanks
thank you very much, when you have it on your system could you give me details of the deluxe edition and the UK release date? it's usually Monday isn't it so i imagine May 12th?

No problem. We shut down over the weekend but will be in touch on Monday

Thanks''
 
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Ask them for the track list tomorrow
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Ask them for the track list tomorrow

i will, it is interesting. I will be buying two copies of the deluxe version on release day! then i shall be going to kfc and getting a taxi home. excited
 
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