I had to laugh when I looked at that photo again, Mike wore a blue shirt and a green pants.. and they really kissed like there's no mask. Honestly, I think we should really love her as an MJ fan, she really love him no matter what he was... wearing a mask like that. She really lived in his world when they were together, as we can see that her life isn't like that after she left him.
and here ^^^^ is a video of Michael and Lisa together in LA after the divroce. So if we sum up the locations they were seen after the divorce we have 4 already and counting. 1)london
2) africa 3) 1998 bday dinner and 4) this one here in LA day time WHILE he was still with Debbie. and o think Debbie had just had paris.
and I couldn't find out more about the Nic cage think. But if Nic did say that in an interview then its safe to say that Lisa did leave Nic, or had problems with Nic because of Michael. And that does explain the trials and stuff, and why she felt used, especially if the neverland ditching thing in 2003 is true.
and this also explains why in a interview when they asked her if it hurt her that michael was getting arrested she said "it'll hurt anyone to see someone go through this", trying to act all indifferent. and then she said she stopped trying to keep up with him. BS, an indifferent person wouldn't care if someone else got arrested. Heck, if i don't really know you why would i care if ur arrested? so that whole "it'll hurt anyone to see someone go through this" is not true. She was probably trying to excuse the fact that she did care.
oh, and supposedly Lisa called michael after the martin bashir documentary. So is it possible that in "that" phone call was when Mike invited lisa to go to neverland and he ditched her?
I think the 4 incident the met was:
London
Africa
Her Birthday at Ivy
Joe's birthday in 1999 at neverland - they hold a big party there and she was there.
These are the incidents that was reported on the news, according to MJ's interview, they meet up regularly he mentioned that she visited him at Neverland. So, it's actually countless time during those years. If you read his interview during those years, he mentioned LMP and said a lot of good feelings for her. Consider that he's a very private person, he didn't usually talk about his love/relationship - but he did said that much. I bet there's a lot more to what he said.
As for his arrest and trial, I really don't understand why Lisa didn't call him. I do believe what she said on the interview regarding his trial, was something she tried to show that she didn't care. "it'll hurt anyone to see someone go through this" - this means, including her too. I couldn't understand teh fact that she actually didn't call him, if he was sent to prison, that would mean his life too.. may be she was really hate him at that time, like while she was before she heard the news that he's dead. May be if he was sent to prison, she would realized it after? What we'll never know, is what is the reason they fight so bad. It might even be MJ still wants to hang out with kids... possible? I read somewhere that MJ insist on traveling with his young friends and Lisa was mad, he took the trip to Disneyland Paris anyway..without Lisa... that was when they were still married.
See, i don't think its only guilt because Lisa never stopped calling Michael through out the years, be the documentary, to just talk etc. He was always on her mind, and somehow always in her life. Lol can you imagine? everytime Lisa went to a party,at a club, driving her car, lol or shopping at all mall you hear "don't stop till you get enough", "thriller", or billie jean haha. And if she did leave two husbands for him, AND kissed him with a mask on then well, to me, thats true love. And Lisa, until she got fed up with it was always trying to fix their relationship. But i do believe she feels guilty for ending things badly with him and for bashing him all those years. So yea, she is mixed between guilt and love.
Oh, and by her immediate reaction on the day that Michael died (the one from the blog in where she said that she saw them taking the body to the hospital and she burst into tears automatically) you can tell its not only guilt, the guilt thing probably came after when she finally processed the entire event. She didn't cry immediately because she felt guilty, she cried because he was dead. She feels guilty because their relationship, IMO has never ended, she was always thinking about him and he was always thinking about her. they just sort of stopped seeing each other and drifted away. and the last time they spoke, if 2007 while she was pregnant, michael was extremely hurt and she knew it.
See, if she didn't love him then it wouldn't hurt her this much that HE was hurt. In other words, it did hurt her that he was hurt because she loved him. another person wouldn't have even cared enough to tell him that she is having babies etc. She didn't have to but she wanted too
I think it's everything, she still loves him, the bashing, the guilt, the regret... everything which I'm sure even Lisa couldn't tell what is it that make her feel this sad. I think she's going through a therapy now? is she? hahah just thought that these rich people always do that to help them go through, and she need it to save her marriage. I think things will turn out totally different if she doesn't have her twins with Lockwood, both of them won't have enough strength to go through this. Imagine if she cries over MJ, how could her husband totally believe that it's only regret?
I just hope the last think mike heard from her , wasn't the Marie claire interview which was he being the biggest mistake of her life. I hope they spoke. But judging from karen's blogs or whateva , this girl hurt him a great deal.
Where did you get that? I had her on my facebook list too, I couldn't seem to find Karen said anything ... like I heard from this forum about MJ and Lisa...
I still think her behaviour during the trial was unforgiveable. A blessing to who? Gladys knight ,Ramone Baine and Steve Manning said all of hollywood turned their back aginst him. All his friends. He was all alone. Steve Manning said they ran away from him like he was diseased. Shoot even Geraldo said the same thing. He needed a friend. She should have stopped then. I don't care how hurt she was. Karen said Mike was hurt too. She should have known when to stop and when the line was crossed. All I hear is she was hurt , she was hurt. Michael could have had done the same thing she did. He could have disrespected her every chance he got. Michael had it coming from all sides. Had it from Lisa, he had a trial, he had tons of friends betray him ( Like katherine said Mike told her, the hardest part was everytime the prosecution called the next witness, it would be another friend of his) , the media ridiculed him . She knew him better than most. I mean comeone. She should have know he must have been at his lowest. Jermaine said one day in the break room at the trial Mike just broke down. He was crying. he said he wanted everyone to just leave him alone. I mean comeone. T Mez said The trial broke Mike, and he was looking for peace . but sadly he died looking for it. He never got it.
On the other thought, may be MJ didn't think of her much after the trial. The trial was way far hurt than Lisa left him, he couldn't go on with his life, many people turned away and he was really heart broken then. If Lisa didn't call him to support him during that trial, I'm sure he put her on the other side of the list too, list of people he didn't want to care about. Anyway, doesn't mean he successfully pushed her aside, if he could, he would had done it long time ago.
I think she will =) and eventually she is going to be interviewed, being Elvis daughter and Michael's ex wife.
I also think one day, if she ever has interview again, they will ask her about MJ and she will say it. The thing is, do you think she will? I think she did all the interview because of her album promotion, the question is, when will she release another album - ohhh may be there will be a song for MJ? It will take quite sometimes until she's ready to talk about him in public, and that might even means she will avoid public speaking for a long time. I'm sure she doesn't want to share her hurt on live television.
Karen said that LMP and Mike's last conversation didn't end on a good note. I can only imagine the turmoil she must be feeling to know that he never knew her true feelings or at the very least that they were unable to clear the air and get to a space where they could be friends before he passed.
I think that's the worst part of her sadness at the moment, when someone is gone and you couldn't say anything anymore. She will keep repeating that in her head...
By the way guys, we keep saying about Lisa is hurt... and someone said we don't talk about MJ was hurt. We didn't spend so much time discussing about MJ hurt, we knew he was hurt but right now he's happy in heaven. So at the moment, Lisa is paying her price... I'm sure MJ forgive her... and even try to help her get over this and be happy with her family.
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