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SmoothGangsta said:
We don't know if MJ recorded the full song or not iirc
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I think he did. Just like Barry did demos for all the songs he wrote (like 90% of the album), so did MJ for Eaten Alive, which is his with Barry's contributions later on.
 
MJbr2 said:
I think he did. Just like Barry did demos for all the songs he wrote (like 90% of the album), so did MJ for Eaten Alive, which is his with Barry's contributions later on.
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I'm pretty sure MJ didn't write it and just suggested changes to the chorus.
 
Beano Wild said:
next year they should release Michael 10 with all the unreleased remixes!

and of course disk 3 - Bible album feat. Jason Malachi.
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I know this is ironic but I'd actually love to see the Estate make an anniversary edition of Michael. Include the demo versions of Another Day and Best Of Joy, include unreleased songs from the 2000s (like Rocker, H20, Water and Boy No) and it wouldn't be such a bad project after all.
 
ChanceToDance said:
I know this is ironic but I'd actually love to see the Estate make an anniversary edition of Michael. Include the demo versions of Another Day and Best Of Joy, include unreleased songs from the 2000s (like Rocker, H20, Water and Boy No) and it wouldn't be such a bad project after all.
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That would be pretty nice to think about...

1. Hold My Hand (original leaked version)
2. Hollywood Tonight (either the leaked version or a version with someone else singing the original bridge/third verse)
3. RedOne song (if the Estate is willing to give its profits to charity)
4. The Way That You Love Me (Ultimate Collection version) or Slave to the Rhythm (2010 remix)
5. Lovely Way (Mark Ronson remix)
6. Best of Joy (either the 1991 version or the version with a third verse)
7. Boy No or The Future (if will.i.am lightens his stance on releasing his music)
8. Another Day (original 1999 version)
9. Who Do You Know (Michael's demo for Behind the Mask) or I Have This Dream (either the original demo or the all-star mix)
10. Much Too Soon (Mix #9 aka the mix Michael approved)
 
SeriousFX said:
That would be pretty nice to think about...

1. Hold My Hand (original leaked version)
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Mix the extra vocals from the remix and that'd be solid. I always preferred the leaked version of HMH over the remix but it doesn't have as much MJ vocals, mix the instrumental from the demo and the vocals from the remix and that would be the best of both worlds.
 
SeriousFX said:
9. Who Do You Know (Michael's demo for Behind the Mask) or I Have This Dream (either the original demo or the all-star mix)
10. Much Too Soon (Mix #9 aka the mix Michael approved)
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“Who Do You Know” was never confirmed to my knowledge. There is a song with that title, but I don’t know if it’s ever been connected to “Behind the Mask.”

I would be astonished if the all-star version of “I Have This Dream” ever comes out. If it does, it would require permission from all of the participating artists and the removal of R. Kelly (which Damien Shields said MJ was intent on doing anyways). I also don’t think MJ ever recorded a full vocal, just his solo section — which he later felt wasn’t up to par.
 
AlwaysThere said:
“Who Do You Know” was never confirmed to my knowledge. There is a song with that title, but I don’t know if it’s ever been connected to “Behind the Mask.”

I would be astonished if the all-star version of “I Have This Dream” ever comes out. If it does, it would require permission from all of the participating artists and the removal of R. Kelly (which Damien Shields said MJ was intent on doing anyways). I also don’t think MJ ever recorded a full vocal, just his solo section — which he later felt wasn’t up to par.
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To be honest, I wasn't really sure what I was thinking when I connected "Who Do You Know" to "Behind the Mask." I just saw the title and went "hey, this sounds similar to that one line in the pre-chorus!" Since the demo's already getting released on Thriller 40, I don't know what version to put other than the redone 1985 mix with "new" lyrics.
 
AlwaysThere said:
“Who Do You Know” was never confirmed to my knowledge. There is a song with that title, but I don’t know if it’s ever been connected to “Behind the Mask.”

I would be astonished if the all-star version of “I Have This Dream” ever comes out. If it does, it would require permission from all of the participating artists and the removal of R. Kelly (which Damien Shields said MJ was intent on doing anyways). I also don’t think MJ ever recorded a full vocal, just his solo section — which he later felt wasn’t up to par.
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why would mj want to remove r kelly from a song whilst he was alive sounds like bs
 
Dilan said:
why would mj want to remove r kelly from a song whilst he was alive sounds like bs
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It's possibly because Michael thought that R. Kelly's vocals weren't up to snuff. I doubt it was because of the accusations that arose around the same time, because he was still willing to work with Kelly before his death (or at the very least, Kelly was still willing to work with him).
 
filmandmusic said:
The more I get into Thriller the more I want to know about the 700/800 songs they went through to make Thriller. I think it would be logical that there are a couple of tracks left from this era that have MJ vocals. You don't go through hundreds of songs without trying some of them out.
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I always took the “700-800 songs” quote as gross exaggeration. Even if Quincy and MJ did comb through that many, I can’t imagine many made it past listening to the writer’s demos and saying, “Next.” On top of that, think of how many songs we’ve heard that were written/recorded during the Thriller sessions:
  1. Wanna Be Startin’ Somethin’
  2. Baby Be Mine
  3. The Girl Is Mine
  4. Thriller
  5. Beat It
  6. Billie Jean
  7. Human Nature
  8. P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing)
  9. The Lady in My Life
  10. Carousel
  11. Got the Hots
  12. Starlight
  13. Behind the Mask
  14. The Toy
  15. Sunset Driver
  16. She’s Trouble
  17. Hot Street
  18. Nightline
  19. Don’t Be Messin’ ‘Round
There are many more song titles with no background, but that’s two albums’ worth of material. I can’t imagine there’s much left over, at least from the Westlake sessions.
 
SeriousFX said:
It's possibly because Michael thought that R. Kelly's vocals weren't up to snuff. I doubt it was because of the accusations that arose around the same time, because he was still willing to work with Kelly before his death (or at the very least, Kelly was still willing to work with him).
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i dont think mj was thinking about that song after 2003, everybody had heard it already heard it 6 years earlier
 
Dilan said:
why would mj want to remove r kelly from a song whilst he was alive sounds like bs
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I’m gonna presume it was the pedophilia and sexual abuse claims. I can imagine MJ was sympathetic at first given that he was the victim of false allegations, but once the cases started picking up steam through the mid-2000s, perhaps his management finally got through to him.

Totally presumptuous on my part, but let’s not act like MJ made the wisest decisions when it came to PR (*cough cough* admitting on television that he would continue hosting sleepovers with children a year after the Chandler incident, holding Gavin Arvizo’s hand on camera, accusing Sony of racism, pretty much all of his conduct through 1993 to 2003 *cough cough*).
 
Dilan said:
i dont think mj was thinking about that song after 2003, everybody had heard it already heard it 6 years earlier
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I'm not talking about One More Chance, but rather that song that Kelly intended for Michael. I forgot the song name, but I think Robert might've been planning on having it be recorded by MJ.

AlwaysThere said:
I always took the “700-800 songs” quote as gross exaggeration. Even if Quincy and MJ did comb through that many, I can’t imagine many made it past listening to the writer’s demos and saying, “Next.” On top of that, think of how many songs we’ve heard that were written/recorded during the Thriller sessions:
  1. Wanna Be Startin’ Somethin’
  2. Baby Be Mine
  3. The Girl Is Mine
  4. Thriller
  5. Beat It
  6. Billie Jean
  7. Human Nature
  8. P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing)
  9. The Lady in My Life
  10. Carousel
  11. Got the Hots
  12. Starlight
  13. Behind the Mask
  14. The Toy
  15. Sunset Driver
  16. She’s Trouble
  17. Hot Street
  18. Nightline
  19. Don’t Be Messin’ ‘Round
There are many more song titles with no background, but that’s two albums’ worth of material. I can’t imagine there’s much left over, at least from the Westlake sessions.
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Quincy said at least 30 songs were recorded, so that means that there's at least ten more songs that we don't even know about. Now I don't know about their state of completion; they may as well be instrumentals with scratch vocals; but it's highly possible that those songs might've been considered for Thriller at one point or another.
 
SeriousFX said:
I'm not talking about One More Chance, but rather that song that Kelly intended for Michael. I forgot the song name, but I think Robert might've been planning on having it be recorded by MJ.


Quincy said at least 30 songs were recorded, so that means that there's at least ten more songs that we don't even know about. Now I don't know about their state of completion; they may as well be instrumentals with scratch vocals; but it's highly possible that those songs might've been considered for Thriller at one point or another.
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That is the first I heard of that statement but it sounds promising. Perhaps he also considered someone in the dark, be not always, the Mercury sessions, CGOOTR, There are a lot of things that have yet to be cleared up.
If these were part of the thriller project then only a handful of unheard songs remain.
 
filmandmusic said:
That is the first I heard of that statement but it sounds promising. Perhaps he also considered someone in the dark, be not always, the Mercury sessions, CGOOTR, There are a lot of things that have yet to be cleared up.
If these were part of the thriller project then only a handful of unheard songs remain.
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The Mercury sessions were in 1983, so they definitely weren’t considered for Thriller.
 
wonderouzmj said:
Because it's the demo to the title track............🤦🏿‍♂️
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well i simply would prefer Hot Street and Niteline to be released, instead of Starlight and CGOTR.

And I still think a demo of a song from the original Thriller setlist does not fit that well.

thats my opinion. and even so, i am overall happy about CD2 so far. i just hoped for NL and HS since the first announcement of T40. thats why I am now slightly disappointed to some extent.
 
Calisto said:
Starlight is the opening track on Disc 2 and is not labeled a demo.

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Odd. Seems like it’ll confuse anyone who isn’t familiar with the backstory. “Carousel isn’t listed as a demo, and neither is Starlight! They both must be brand-new, finished songs!”
 
Everyone here focused on CGOTR but did you ever consider the long title songs like ''scared of the moon'', ''we are here to change to world'', etc.
 
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