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Anyway, I just watched Motown 25, the whole thing. It was pretty beautiful. MJ literally changed the world with his show, and the whole audience became a blaze. The hype that emerged every time he appears, you can almost take for granted after a while. It's fascinating in comparison to all others. Even still, there's multiple great moments; Stevie was the consummate performer as always, Smokey was always just way too smooth, and Marvin Gaye just seemed absolutely incandescent. It was a pretty powerful ode to an era of time long since passed and it definitely deserves to be talked about still, even now.
 
surely michael/the estate would own his performance from it. he had more creative control over it than any other artist. to the point where he initially decided against having it televised. he edited and directed it. shouldn’t that count for something?

the entire special has been available on home media since 1983. I actually find the vhs (pal) to be the best quality somehow..
 
hermanmob said:
Its available on the History on film vol 2 dvd and as an extra on Thriller 25
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the entire ‘Motown 25th anniversary’ show was released on vhs 📼 michael’s performance was also included in his ‘making of thriller’ and ‘the legend continues’ releases.
 
SmoothCriminal1995 said:
I still remember when they released this documentary with the trailer making a big deal out of seeing the Billie Jean rehearsal, then it was like 5 seconds and had someone talking over it
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Susan depasse confirmed that there was more rehearsal footage, but it was the estate that blocked them from using it. this is proof that they own michael’s portion of the show. maybe they’ll show it in the upcoming ‘thriller’ documentary?
 
83magic said:
Susan depasse confirmed that there was more rehearsal footage, but it was the estate that blocked them from using it. this is proof that they own michael’s portion of the show. maybe they’ll show it in the upcoming ‘thriller’ documentary?
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Knowing Michael and his team, I am sure they negotiated before the show about owning the rights to his performance.

Also, the Estate blocking more rehearsal footage means we'll never get to see it. I don't think he did the moonwalk in the rehearsal anyways, but still...
 
Derek1984 said:
Knowing Michael and his team, I am sure they negotiated before the show about owning the rights to his performance.

Also, the Estate blocking more rehearsal footage means we'll never get to see it. I don't think he did the moonwalk in the rehearsal anyways, but still...
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Didn't MJ start experimenting with the moonwalk around 81?
 
83magic said:
Susan depasse confirmed that there was more rehearsal footage, but it was the estate that blocked them from using it. this is proof that they own michael’s portion of the show. maybe they’ll show it in the upcoming ‘thriller’ documentary?
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where did she say that ?
 
Derek1984 said:
Knowing Michael and his team, I am sure they negotiated before the show about owning the rights to his performance.

Also, the Estate blocking more rehearsal footage means we'll never get to see it. I don't think he did the moonwalk in the rehearsal anyways, but still...
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I wonder if Michael had his own team filming
 
Derek1984 said:
Knowing Michael and his team, I am sure they negotiated before the show about owning the rights to his performance.

Also, the Estate blocking more rehearsal footage means we'll never get to see it. I don't think he did the moonwalk in the rehearsal anyways, but still...
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My thing is WTF👏🏾ARE👏🏾THEY👏🏾HIDING? WHY IS IT BLOCKED..... WHY WON'T THEY GIVE US UNRELEASED FOOTAGE LIKE.....WTF BRANCA!! I CAN'T WAIT TIL HE GOES!!!
 
BlackAnon said:
the Billie Jean performance is legendary and there's no denying it but The Jacksons intro performance gets me going a little bit more. Could be because of the live vocals
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I get it. Motown 25 is iconic but it's pretty well played. The J5 stuff is rare. That Never Can Say Goodbye is pretty incandescent.

Really, the whole show of Motown 25 is, dare I say, underrated lol. The whole show is basically great from beginning to end, besides maybe Adam Ant.
 
BlackAnon said:
the Billie Jean performance is legendary and there's no denying it but The Jacksons intro performance gets me going a little bit more. Could be because of the live vocals
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MJ himself was ofcourse also disappointed by his Billie Jean performance because of the toe stand
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
I get it. Motown 25 is iconic but it's pretty well played. The J5 stuff is rare. That Never Can Say Goodbye is pretty incandescent.

Really, the whole show of Motown 25 is, dare I say, underrated lol. The whole show is basically great from beginning to end, besides maybe Adam Ant.
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now we need the uncut version so we can see the alleged Supremes drama unfold
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
I get it. Motown 25 is iconic but it's pretty well played. The J5 stuff is rare. That Never Can Say Goodbye is pretty incandescent.

Really, the whole show of Motown 25 is, dare I say, underrated lol. The whole show is basically great from beginning to end, besides maybe Adam Ant.
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Poor Adam. He was only there bc Michael invited him to be on the bill. He was really great doing his own thing but not the right sort of performer for this particular event, imo. I say that as someone who adores Adam. He is my guy. I love Michael to bits but I'm not sure what he was thinking, lol. That said, as an example of Michael thinking outside the box, it's up there! :ROFLMAO:
 
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zinniabooklover said:
Poor Adam. He was only there bc Michael invited him to be on the bill. He was really great doing his own thing but not the right sort of performer for this particular event, imo. I say that as someone who adores Adam. He is my guy. I love Michael to bits but I'm not sure what he was thinking, lol. That said, as an example of Michael thinking outside the box, it's up there! :ROFLMAO:
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IIRC, Adam Ant once said MJ got the idea to wear military jackets from him, that he called him to ask where he bought them
 
Victorious said:
IIRC, Adam Ant once said MJ got the idea to wear military jackets from him, that he called him to ask where he bought them
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Yeah, Adam has told this story a few times. He was wearing his military jacket in 1980 and Michael wears one that is a low-key, simpler version at the Budweiser Superfest in 1982. He also wore it at that Liza Minnelli concert, can't remember the date.

Not that Adam started it. Jimi Hendrix, in 1967, had two military jackets that he wore.

Here's the fancy one:

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It's always claimed that the jackets worn by Jimi and Adam were Royal Hussar jackets (8th & 11th Hussars). Adam's jacket apparently came from Bermans and Nathans, theatrical costumiers, so it could be legit. Jimi got his from Chelsea Antiques Market.

Sidenote: Michael was also interested in the Burundi-influenced drumming that Adam used in some of his songs in 1980.
 
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zinniabooklover said:
Yeah, Adam has told this story a few times. He was wearing his military jacket in 1980 and Michael wears one that is a low-key, simpler version at the Budweiser Superfest in 1982. He also wore it at that Liza Minnelli concert, can't remember the date.

Not that Adam started it. Jimi Hendrix, in 1967, had two military jackets that he wore.

Here's the fancy one:

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It's always claimed that the jackets worn by Jimi and Adam were Royal Hussar jackets (8th & 11th Hussars). Adam's jacket apparently came from Bermans and Nathans, theatrical costumiers, so it could be legit. Jimi got his from Chelsea Antiques Market.

Sidenote: Michael was also interested in the Burundi-influenced drumming that Adam used in some of his songs in 1980.
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zinniabooklover said:
Poor Adam. He was only there bc Michael invited him to be on the bill. He was really great doing his own thing but not the right sort of performer for this particular event, imo. I say that as someone who adores Adam. He is my guy. I love Michael to bits but I'm not sure what he was thinking, lol. That said, as an example of Michael thinking outside the box, it's up there! :ROFLMAO:
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You know, I was actually thinking MJ took a lot from Adam Ant, and it was interesting that I was right lol. Not stolen, but learned.
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
You know, I was actually thinking MJ took a lot from Adam Ant, and it was interesting that I was right lol. Not stolen, but learned.
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Agreed. Michael knew how to take inspiration from something / someone and then weave his own magic.

I believe him and Adam had a phone friendship for quite a while before they ever met up. Adam spent a day with Michael at Hayvenhurst after Motown 25. What I desperately want to know is what Michael thought of Adam's videos. I can't believe he didn't see them, he knew what was happening in the UK charts, he was very aware. I need to know, lol. I can't believe no-one bothered to have a proper conversation with him about music videos. There's that quote that gets trotted out every time but that's it.
 
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