Thriller 40th Anniversary

I'm about to go crazy in this house right now...the 44seconds of what they have shown today...& WE CANT GET IT IN FULL? I just cannot understand why.....WHY WHY WHY do we only get clips. I can't for the life of me understand what the wait is!!!
For the sake of my sanity I no longer even ask those questions. I just can't lose my sh#t over this stuff any more. I agree with you, it's completely insane and I don't understand any of it.

For today, I am giving up grateful thanks for 44s of total bliss! That's what I'm focusing on.
 
The Estate: hmm… yeah no, lemme give you the incredible Munich 97 concert first. You wait 10 more years for HD Victory
Lol! Yeah, doesn’t make any sense. Although I have to admit, I do like the way 4K Munich looks, especially with those new camera angles.

But it doesn’t make any sense why they would hold back the Victory Tour, especially if it’s in 4K. It looks beautiful! They don’t have any excuse in my eyes.
 
For the sake of my sanity I no longer even ask those questions. I just can't lose my sh#t over this stuff any more. I agree with you, it's completely insane and I don't understand any of it.

For today, I am giving up grateful thanks for 44s of total bliss! That's what I'm focusing on.
Like...im speechless almost right now. The fact that this kinda stuff has just been sitting up for years...now I'm wondering why Michael never put any of this out. He limited himself as well I think. Lol he honestly didn't even need to do this is it. All he had to do was release these types of things & we would've loved it just as much & still had him here...maybe
 
Like...im speechless almost right now. The fact that this kinda stuff has just been sitting up for years...now I'm wondering why Michael never put any of this out. He limited himself as well I think. Lol he honestly didn't even need to do this is it. All he had to do was release these types of things & we would've loved it just as much & still had him here...maybe
Oh, I'm with you 100%. And then to the power of ten, lol. I don't think there's anything wrong with what you've said in this post and in many of your previous posts. With you all the way.

But I'm not giving MJE any more of my energy. Not happening. Bc it won't change anything, anyway.

Yoga breathing. 44s of bliss! Michael speaking. Michael singing. Michael looking adorable. Michael being an artist. :D

I don't know why Michael never released stuff like this but artists are weird. They are perfectionists. They are not like the rest of us. So I'm not mad at him. Bewildered and frustrated but not mad.
 
I saw the screening in Amsterdam.

Pros
- Studio Footage!! I want more.
- Victory Tour Footage!! I want more.
- ET Story board
- More back stories. Recording of demo Wanne be startin' something'.

Cons
- No interview with Quincy Jones, producer???? WTF
- No interview with Bruce Swedien, Sound Engineer???? WTF
- No interview with Steve Porcaro, writer Human Nature.
- No interview with other Jackson Family members.
- Missing the known back stories.
- BTS/Tik Tok part.
- Order of the documentary.
- Audio. Some parts with low audio. Overall not a great audio experience.
 
Lol! Yeah, doesn’t make any sense. Although I have to admit, I do like the way 4K Munich looks, especially with those new camera angles.

But it doesn’t make any sense why they would hold back the Victory Tour, especially if it’s in 4K. It looks beautiful! They don’t have any excuse in my eyes.
I agree, the 4K Munich really changed the experience and all, but Victory is superior. I hope the film is not unusable or lost in 10 more years and they end up releasing a VHS rip or sonething.
 
I saw the screening in Amsterdam.

Cons
- No interview with Quincy Jones, producer???? WTF
Ridiculous. I know he's been talking trash about Michael in recent years but you can't excise him out of the Thriller story. Use archive stuff, if you have to.

- No interview with Bruce Swedien, Sound Engineer???? WTF
That is a definite misstep, imo. There is archive footage of Bruce so just use it. Doesn't matter if it's been seen before. Not everyone has seen it and he's such an important part of the story, you can't leave him out. It makes no sense.

- No interview with Steve Porcaro, writer Human Nature.
Does seem odd. An interview with the lyricist John Bettis would have been cool.

No interview with other Jackson Family members.
Uh, I'd rather they weren't there, tbh.
 
Never thought I would see footage of the victory tour in this quality. I want more! Didnt lounis mention beat it also...cant wait for that. Theres no question that at least 1 show exists on film now.

I wonder if Nelson could confirm if he had access to a full VT concert in the vault...

So did they just use the visions rip for Billie jean? No one mentioned Billie jean in HD yet 😐
 
Never thought I would see footage of the victory tour in this quality. I want more! Didnt lounis mention beat it also...cant wait for that. Theres no question that at least 1 show exists on film now.

I wonder if Nelson could confirm if he had access to a full VT concert in the vault...

So did they just use the visions rip for Billie jean? No one mentioned Billie jean in HD yet 😐
They show snippets of all Thriller songs live; WBSS, HN, Beat It and Billie Jean. And yes, Lounis confirmed me they used SD Billie Jean for the music vid.
 
Zero reason for any Jackson family member to be interviewed for this documentary. The absence of Bruce and Quincy is disappointing, but since the doc is still being finished I’m hoping they’ll rethink some things and include them.

As for that little clip, the studio footage and interview clip looks absolutely gorgeous! The live clip of “Human Nature” is boring imo; no different than the dozens of other Bad and Dangerous concerts we’ve seen. Hard skip for me. But everything else is heavenly and I can’t wait for it.
 
As for that little clip, the studio footage and interview clip looks absolutely gorgeous! The live clip of “Human Nature” is boring imo; no different than the dozens of other Bad and Dangerous concerts we’ve seen. Hard skip for me. But everything else is heavenly and I can’t wait for it.
Smh wow.....wow
 
Just my opinion. Gorgeous quality and good vocals, but live shows just don’t do it for me, especially in a documentary that’s supposed to cover the making of the album. Give me more studio footage and unseen interviews!
I'm just joking with you, man :LOL:

Yes, this documentary seems to be all over the place, even being a WIP still.
Who knows, maybe there's another documentary out there which covers the making of the album...
 
I'm just joking with you, man :LOL:

Yes, this documentary seems to be all over the place, even being a WIP still.
Who knows, maybe there's another documentary out there which covers the making of the album...
Sorry! It’s hard to tell when people are messing around when you have comments like
Lmfaooooooo troll
from people who have responded “where are the concerts” to literally everything the estate has done for the past several years lmfao. My bad MJbr2!
 
so happy quincy is excluded. why yall want him in? he trashed mj so many times and he is so close to nOprah... i dont respect him anymore since a long time and irts good that now its his turn to be excluded out of mj project. why giving him the respect he is not giving back to mj in the first place?
 
so happy quincy is excluded. why yall want him in? he trashed mj so many times and he is so close to nOprah... i dont respect him anymore since a long time and irts good that now its his turn to be excluded out of mj project. why giving him the respect he is not giving back to mj in the first place?
It's tricky, isn't it? They've got Nelson George directing and he's trashed Michael something rotten many times. I wouldn't have given the job to him but I'm not in charge and we are where we are.

As for Quincy, you just can't - or shouldn't - leave him out of the story. He's such a big part of it. I don't know if there would be legal restrictions on using archive footage of him talking about it. It wouldn't be new and exclusive but it would be pertinent. And if the doc is aimed at a general audience, as much as it's aimed at Michael's fans, lots of people wouldn't have seen the Q footage, anyway.

It's not about excluding him from MJ projects. It's about telling a coherent story about Thriller and Q was instrumental in its success. Michael didn't make it big bc of Q. Michael made it big bc he was a creative genius. But not including Quincy? Unless he was invited and declined - seems unlikely - I can't think of a good reason to leave him out.
 
came across this snippet from the documentary, of Michael discussing something close to my heart; the message of ‘beat it’. it’s so rare to hear him speak with such conviction during this time. his voice had a force to it. I would love to know where this was taken from. aside from new footage, I’m most excited to hear Michael tell his own story during this time.
 
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came across this snippet from the documentary, of Michael discussing close to my heart; the message of ‘beat it’. it’s so rare to hear him speak with such conviction during this time. his voice had a force to it. I would love to know where this was taken from. aside from new footage, I’m most excited to hear Michael tell his own story during this time.
Thanks for posting. :D

Loved it. The pictures were good, too.
 
Thanks for posting. :D

Loved it. The pictures were good, too.
you’re welcome ☺️ thanks for tagging me in the other thread💜. I have a lot of catching up to do. my feelings are all over the place lol.

this is actually the second video of this that I’ve seen today. the first has already been taken down.
 
The live clip of “Human Nature” is boring imo; no different than the dozens of other Bad and Dangerous concerts we’ve seen. Hard skip for me. But everything else is heavenly and I can’t wait for it.
Not here to hate at all but to say Human Nature on the Victory tour is the same as on the Bad & Dangerous tours is simply wrong lol.

....so is it too late to revive the old victory tour release campaign? Mj deserves an HD concert release. If they have this concert in full, it's time.
 
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