Thriller 40th Anniversary - Songs Discussion

[Derek1984]

So what songs do we have left for Thriller 50?

Hot Street
Nightline
Rolling The Dice
And who knows what else these days..

But that's all in 10 years and that's crazy.

Victory 40 on the other hand.

Nymphette Lover
Why Can't I Be
You Told Me You're Lovin'
Somewhere In Time
Got to Find a Way Somehow

 

[AlwaysThere]

Nymphette Lover
Why Can't I Be
You Told Me You're Lovin'
Somewhere In Time
Got to Find a Way Somehow

Pretty sure the last three were from the 1970s. Not sure they’d qualify, unless they were revisited.

 

[Mister_Jay_Tee]

Victory 40 lmao. Doubt anyone at the estate even knows what Victory is.

Whatever it takes to MJs version of "The Hurt" lol.

 

[Derek1984]

Pretty sure the last three were from the 1970s. Not sure they’d qualify, unless they were revisited.

You're right but they included Lovely Way with Thriller 40, so...

 

[ChanceToDance]

I wanted to say the same but with Sunset Driver, CGOOTR and WALWTG ending up on Thriller 40 anything is possible lol.

 

[AlwaysThere]

You're right but they included Lovely Way with Thriller 40, so...

That one was (allegedly) worked on for Thriller at the very least. Same with Sunset Driver and CGOOTR.

 

[Mister_Jay_Tee]

That one was (allegedly) worked on for Thriller at the very least. Same with Sunset Driver and CGOOTR.

We've never heard Sunset Driver from 1978. It's probably radically different. This song has always been from 1982 as we know it and MJ The Experience was never a good indicator for chronology of songs lol.

 

[AlwaysThere]

We've never heard Sunset Driver from 1978. It's probably radically different. This song has always been from 1982 as we know it and MJ The Experience was never a good indicator for chronology of songs lol.

There is no evidence that “Sunset Driver” was written or recorded in 1978, other than fan rumors and subjective opinions. The version we have was recorded in 1982 and mixed by Bill Bottrell during the Bad sessions.

I will die on this hill!

 

[SmoothGangsta]

Will surprise me if they wrote and recorded such a dated sounding song specifically for Thriller. It definitely existed before then imo, even if the version we have was recorded for Thriller (something I'm not really debating either way as I've stopped caring lol).

 

[Mister_Jay_Tee]

There is no evidence that “Sunset Driver” was written or recorded in 1978, other than fan rumors and subjective opinions. The version we have was recorded in 1982 and mixed by Bill Bottrell during the Bad sessions.

I will die on this hill!

There's a whole book section about it! On the record.

 

[ChanceToDance]

Most songs from Disc 2 got animated videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Bfe8QAw33U

 

[Beano Wild]

Most songs from Disc 2 got animated videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Bfe8QAw33U

I wonder why She's Trouble, Starlight and Got the Hots arent uploaded.

 

[AlwaysThere]

There's a whole book section about it! On the record.

Yes, but the only books that cite it are also filled with incorrect information. I guess at the end of the day it doesn’t matter, but there’s no standing confirmation or reliable info to say otherwise.

 

[Mister_Jay_Tee]

I really wonder what the Victory Era rendition of Who Do You Know sounds like. I'd love to hear it with that warmer production like the other tracks that ended up on the album.

 

[dethorro]

I really wonder what the Victory Era rendition of Who Do You Know sounds like. I'd love to hear it with that warmer production like the other tracks that ended up on the album.

How do we know it was reworked for Victory?

 

[wonderouzmj]

How do we know it was reworked for Victory?

How do we know it was reworked at all

 

[AlwaysThere]

How do we know it was reworked for Victory?

Yeah, all the estate said was that it was considered. That could mean a million different things.

 

[Agonum]

Yeah, all the estate said was that it was considered. That could mean a million different things.

True.

 

[Mister_Jay_Tee]

How do we know it was reworked for Victory?

We don't, but it means I'm a dreamer and I just wanna be happy. But you ruined it

 

[SmoothCriminal1995]

How do we know it was reworked for Victory?

How do we know...how do we know

I believe the Estate said that it was reworked in the tweet they sent to announce the track.

Hopefully there's an even more complete version of the track, but I love it as it is

 

[Mister_Jay_Tee]

How do we know...how do we know

I believe the Estate said that it was reworked in the tweet they sent to announce the track.

Hopefully there's an even more complete version of the track, but I love it as it is

They only said it was considered. Nothing more than that unfortunately.

 

[Nite Line]

It is sad that Michael never considered Who Do You Know for future solo albums after Thriller. That song is such a gem and I believe had Michael finished it and released it, it would have been considered one of his best songs.

 

[Mister_Jay_Tee]

Now this would've been a great contribution to the album.

 

[filmandmusic]

I generally oppose remixes etc but in case of “who do you know” a decent beat to it would make a world of difference for me.
I enjoy the song but the cheap automated drumsound takes me out of it.

 

[filmandmusic]

Victory 40 lmao. Doubt anyone at the estate even knows what Victory is.

They know and they will add 5 extra tracks none of them sung by MJ

 

[ChanceToDance]

If the Jackson brothers actually did Victory 40 and didn't add any new tracks sung by Michael I wouldn't be bothered, Imo the best songs of that album are songs that Michael doesn't sing or barely sings at all.

 

[Mister_Jay_Tee]

If the Jackson brothers actually did Victory 40 and didn't add any new tracks sung by Michael I wouldn't be bothered, Imo the best songs of that album are songs that Michael doesn't sing or barely sings at all.

All they'd have to do to satisfy me is release all the demoes of final tracklist, even to the songs that aren't MJ. And maybe add the Victory Toilet Seat Rhythm, like that Bumper Snippet from Dangerous SE. Otherwise, what else is there, Buffalo Bill? Lol, imagine. No new songs needed there.

 

[AlwaysThere]

If the Jackson brothers actually did Victory 40 and didn't add any new tracks sung by Michael I wouldn't be bothered, Imo the best songs of that album are songs that Michael doesn't sing or barely sings at all.

Hot take! I think Victory is completely forgettable with the exception of “Torture” and “Be Not Always.” I feel like ignoring Michael on a reissue would be a recipe for failure.

 

[dethorro]

Hot take! I think Victory is completely forgettable with the exception of “Torture” and “Be Not Always.” I feel like ignoring Michael on a reissue would be a recipe for failure.

One More Chance is one of the greater songs on the album also, in my opinion.

 

[SmoothGangsta]

Hot take! I think Victory is completely forgettable with the exception of “Torture” and “Be Not Always.” I feel like ignoring Michael on a reissue would be a recipe for failure.

Agreed, I like State of Shock as well but not the version that's on there lol.