The Jacksons appear on Piers Morgan - May 10th 2012

Victory22;3637164 said:
All of them have called Conrad Murray “Just the fall guy” and minimized his role in Michael’s death and mistreatment. They can’t grieve publically but they have had no problem whatsoever going on every television network and tabloid rag to criticize Michael’s parenting and drug addiction.
Not all of them have said that. Jermaine has flat out stated that Conrad is a murderer. What they've said is that more people are involved and that's plausible considering how many people tried to take Michael down over the years

Heck, if it was possible, I would've put a number of people on trial for what they did to Michael
 
complete interview, better quality...

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The clip of Katherine hurts to see. The pain of losing Michael is still there and I don't think that will go away. I think about him everyday and I miss him too. I haven't always agreed with her choices but it's hard for a mother to see her child go before her.

Marebear sometimes I think that if Katherine accepts the fact that Muarry's negligence caused Michael's death, then she would have less torment. To me, it is that uncertainty that is tearing her apart. She has allowed others to make her think that it is partly Muarry, then it is AEG, then Michael was healthy, then Michael was sickly and did not know what was going on--these conflicting stories are tearing at the emotions and keep her in torment.

I am not saying that the death of her son is not a source of tremendous grief to her, but in her mind she needs that closure of understanding who exactly caused her son's death. Someone put the idea in her mind that it is AEG, a group of others, so of course under this situation how can this mother find peace. I blame the members who makes her believe that others are to be blamed--those who talk about having evidence that never came about.

About the brothers responses, maybe they feel that if they do not go in-depth about questions about molestation, then they wouldn't be asked about them anymore, so they give these weak responses. Also, they want to be accepted as the OK brothers, so although they do not want to see people talk bad about Michael, another part of them want to be accepted by the public and media.

These answers about Joe will always be the same. Joe is still alive and the boys do not want to talk bad about him. Also, they really believe that what Joe did was not bad, that it was old school, and it did not affect them in their eyes. We have discussed this extensively on this forum.

Liberiangirl actually you can forgive without forgetting. The mind remembers the offense/crime and the heart/spirit forgives the person. Someone does something terrible to you, and you forgive the person, but not the action. This is a very religious and moral teaching and not many people can do it. It is like liking the person but disagreeing with the behavior the person is engaged in. It also helps if the person who committed the crime says he is sorry--something Muarry did not do.
 
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Marebear sometimes I think that if Katherine accepts the fact that Muarry's negligence caused Michael's death, then she would have less torment. To me, it is that uncertainty that is tearing her apart. She has allowed others to make her think that it is partly Muarry, then it is AEG, then Michael was healthy, then Michael was sickly and did not know what was going on--these conflicting stories are tearing at the emotions and keep her in torment.

I am not saying that the death of her son is not a source of tremendous grief to her, but in her mind she needs that closure of understanding who exactly caused her son's death. Someone put the idea in her mind that it is AEG, a group of others, so of course under this situation how can this mother find peace. I blame the members who makes her believe that others are to be blamed--those who talk about having evidence that never came about.

About the brothers responses, maybe they feel that if they do not go in-depth about questions about molestation, then they wouldn't be asked about them anymore, so they give these weak responses. Also, they want to be accepted as the OK brothers, so although they do not want to see people talk bad about Michael, another part of them want to be accepted by the public and media.

These answers about Joe will always be the same. Joe is still alive and the boys do not want to talk bad about him. Also, they really believe that what Joe did was not bad, that it was old school, and it did not affect them in their eyes. We have discussed this extensively on this forum.

Liberiangirl actually you can forgive without forgetting. The mind remembers the offense/crime and the heart/spirit forgives the person. Someone does something terrible to you, and you forgive the person, but not the action. This is a very religious and moral teaching and not many people can do it. It is like liking the person but disagreeing with the behavior the person is engaged in. It also helps if the person who committed the crime says he is sorry--something Muarry did not do.


I think in her mind she thinks there was a big conspiracy against Michael. Her children don't help her. They insuniate and have no proof. To me the trial helped me see what happened to Michael. To be honest I don't blame her because she saw how Michael was treated and how people went after him. I think this lawsuit against AEG is a waste of her time and causing stress that is not needed.

As much as I haven't agreed with Katherine, she is 82 and I don't want anything to happen to her. The kids love her and I wouldn't want them to lose someone else so soon after their father. I do believe she loved Michael.
 
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Thread cleaned - Please get back on Topic and stop aguing with each other about MJ dr Murray and propoful
Take that discussion to the appropriate thread and forum. Start you own thread on the case forum if that what you wish to discuss. But the arguing here is derailing this thread. I dont want to have to clean the thread further or close it so I leave it to you to steer it it back to the interview. .. Thanks
 
About the brothers responses, maybe they feel that if they do not go in-depth about questions about molestation, then they wouldn't be asked about them anymore, so they give these weak responses. Also, they want to be accepted as the OK brothers, so although they do not want to see people talk bad about Michael, another part of them want to be accepted by the public and media.

Yes, i agree. Although to be asked specifically about the child abuse allegations and for marlon to say we shouldn't judge one another, that's god's job, i would say is more than weak. No way can it be classed as convincing support of mj's innoncence. The brothers seem to be happy to bask in the good things that come out of being mj's brother, but with the exception of jerms, seem to be reluctant to go in to bat for him when needed.

mj_brainiac said:
Not all of them have said that. Jermaine has flat out stated that Conrad is a murderer. What they've said is that more people are involved and that's plausible considering how many people tried to take Michael down over the years.

I entirely agree with them. One of the main culprits being the media, one of whom would be piers morgan ex uk tab editor, who claimed mj was acting inappropriately with jchandler on the front row of the world music awards (oddly enough not picked up by the tv cameras) and so contributed to the nightmare mj went through which led indirectly to 25 june. And now piers is seen as a great pal and invited up onto the stage f the apollo with the brothers for their reunion tour.
 
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Bonnie Oh the things Michael had to go through and continues to go through--very sad!!
 
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