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The Hoax Theory - Discussing Errors, Inconsistencies, Observations and Other Theories

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I wonder whatever happened to Alberto Alvarez? Last I heard he was working for One Direction in 2012? I always liked the guy, and felt so bad for him when the Jacksons sacked him after his heartbreaking testimony at the CM Trial. I'm not blaming the Jacksons, and always assumed one of the reasons for his dismissal was because he might have been a possible trigger for Prince and Paris? I still feel for the guy though, and hope things turned out positively for him in the end.
 
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I've been trying to search through this thread, but it's so massive!

Does anyone have any more information on the 9282 thing? For the record I am not a hoaxer, I do believe Michael is dead. I'll admit that I do believe in some new age type stuff though I take a LOT of it with mainy grains of salt :) But the timing of the Pepsi incident and his death is something that just blows my mind. I'm not big on numerology, but I'd love some more well-researched information on it if anyone has it! (not just 9 + 2 + 8 + 2 = 21 or whatever)

Thanks!
 
The worst MJ theory ever

The whole "Michael Jackson is alive" conspiracy is absolute rubbish. All these videos "exposing" him being alive are just nonsense.

And what annoys me is that some "fans" have the nerve to call others "fake fans" for not believing he's still alive!

What are your opinions on the matter?
 
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I understand when you loose someone incredibly important it's hard to accept their death......I try not to think of Michael or anyone else I love not being here with us anymore because it upsets me. I know they have passed I just try not to think about it and enjoy the memories and what they left us. I have never heard of these "fans" that's so wild and disturbing to me, do these people genuinely believe it or are they just seeking attention and drama?
 
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pyt1994 said:
I understand when you loose someone incredibly important it's hard to accept their death......I try not to think of Michael or anyone else I love not being here with us anymore because it upsets me. I know they have passed I just try not to think about it and enjoy the memories and what they left us. I have never heard of these "fans" that's so wild and disturbing to me, do these people genuinely believe it or are they just seeking attention and drama?
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There's a whole community of them on YouTube.

There was even a forum back in like 2010 called the "Michael Jackson Hoax Forum" which was a forum dedicated to "proving" MJ was still alive by a whole range of topics.

The forum is still up but loading pages is so slow it's not even worth looking in it.
 
oh my god...youtube is also a fandom blackhole and I generally try to avoid any fan communities and a majority of fan made videos on there LOL. I knew these people existed but I didn't realize there were a lot of them. ¬_¬
 
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BadTour87 said:
There's a whole community of them on YouTube.

There was even a forum back in like 2010 called the "Michael Jackson Hoax Forum" which was a forum dedicated to "proving" MJ was still alive by a whole range of topics.

The forum is still up but loading pages is so slow it's not even worth looking in it.
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Well, I done a bit more research and it seems the OLD forum is slow. It can be found in the web archive here: http://web.archive.org/web/20160312062033/http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/index.php

As for the new forum, it's still active and can be found here: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forums/
 
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The community on that forum is HUGE too. I'm talking tens of thousands of users.
 
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reibish said:
I've been trying to search through this thread, but it's so massive!


Does anyone have any more information on the 9282 thing? For the record I am not a hoaxer, I do believe Michael is dead. I'll admit that I do believe in some new age type stuff though I take a LOT of it with mainy grains of salt :) But the timing of the Pepsi incident and his death is something that just blows my mind. I'm not big on numerology, but I'd love some more well-researched information on it if anyone has it! (not just 9 + 2 + 8 + 2 = 21 or whatever)

Thanks!
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Wtf???

http://youtu.be/6NaMowtLpRo
 
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My thing is I cannot believe people actually think Michael and his family would go to this extent for this long to fake his death...like do they really not see how totally ridiculous that is? Why would Michael do that to his fans and the public?? I understand there is a lot of ~mystery~ circulating around his death and many questions have been left unanswered but still...
 
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pyt1994 said:
My thing is I cannot believe people actually think Michael and his family would go to this extent for this long to fake his death...like do they really not see how totally ridiculous that is? Why would Michael do that to his fans and the public?? I understand there is a lot of ~mystery~ circulating around his death and many questions have been left unanswered but still...
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There's even part of the community that believes even the family doesn't know that he faked his death.

It gets really deep.
 
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BadTour87 said:
The community on that forum is HUGE too. I'm talking tens of thousands of users.
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At first glance people that believe MJ is still alive seem crazy as all get out, but on the flip side I realize that they're just people that love MJ SO much that they can't deal with the fact that he isn't physically with us anymore, and don't we all love MJ, so I try not to be too critical of them although I do think their a bit crazy.
 
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BadTour87 said:
There's even part of the community that believes even the family doesn't know that he faked his death.

It gets really deep.
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Okay but why would he do that to his children and put them through that agony????? Michael loved his children so much....
 
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Pink Diamond Princess said:
At first glance people that believe MJ is still alive seem crazy as all get out, but on the flip side I realize that they're just people that love MJ SO much that they can't deal with the fact that he isn't physically with us anymore, and don't we all love MJ, so I try not to be too critical of them although I do think their a bit crazy.
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I totally agree with what you are saying and would never mock those people because I definitely struggle with his death as well...
 
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whoisit81 said:
I found this video in YouTube... I'm shocked! No doubt is Michael ... The thing is: MJ singing Chicago at the end of video?


http://youtu.be/6NaMowtLpRo
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I have to say this is an impersonator. A very good one who has studied Michael's way of speaking, but one who can't sing for shit. Even Michael with a cold would sing better than whoever this is.

Listen to a line he says, "So, sorry I messed up" That's was the tell for me.
 
BadTour87;4152491 said:
The whole "Michael Jackson is alive" conspiracy is absolute rubbish. All these videos "exposing" him being alive are just nonsense.

And what annoys me is that some "fans" have the nerve to call others "fake fans" for not believing he's still alive!

What are your opinions on the matter?
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pyt1994;4152497 said:
I understand when you loose someone incredibly important it's hard to accept their death......I try not to think of Michael or anyone else I love not being here with us anymore because it upsets me. I know they have passed I just try not to think about it and enjoy the memories and what they left us. I have never heard of these "fans" that's so wild and disturbing to me, do these people genuinely believe it or are they just seeking attention and drama?
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Many of them are not even MJ’s fans.

Basically, their behaviour comes down to their desire for some attention (YouTube views, pages’ visitors, for example).

Unfortunately, it appears that there are also other people who believe them, obviously people of the same low intellectual level as them.

In any case, they do not deserve a whit of attention, let alone talking here about them.
 
Hello everybody

I’m a french parisian, i’m not fluent in english, sorry for grammatical errors.

I’m a fan since I was 10, and I now have 37 :) I love a lot of « conspiracy theorys » but just for fun, because I like S.F. and fantasy universes.

For me, videos about this legend (M.J. could be alive) are not credible. It’s like people who see demoniac or illuminati signs everywhere. Anything can be interpreted !

BUT…

You may tell me it’s a stupid thought, but there is one video who troubles me.

It’s a snapchat wiht Michael’s daughter and a friend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-gLZDgIo-c
I listen and listen, again and again, and I really tell in myself : it’s Michael’s voice.
WTF ! ?
As a matter of fact, I don’t search a fan who answer to me « Yes sure, MJ is alive ». I just want to understand where is the fake.

. An audio cut and replace ?
. Just a person who have the same voice ? (Don’t understand how it’s possible)
. A fake with some software ? (There is softwares who can register a voice and imitate it. More credible for me).

What do you think ?
 
Re: The Hoax Theory - Discussing Errors, Inconsistencies, Observations and other theories

I don't think that anyone is crazy in what they believe, its a free world and we all have the right to believe what we want to. I don't believe in God but I don't call people who do crazy.
I have seen a lot of the hoax videos and do agree that a lot of the things that happened surrounding his death a bit dubious. Here is a list of things I find strange

1. The 911 call (wouldn't you say Michael Jackson is dying here, get someone here quickly)
2. Doctor Conrad was a Heart specialist but yet was giving Michael heart compressions on the bed and not on a hard surface, he had to be told by the 911 operator to put him on the floor
3.Why would he not have a defib machine and drugs to reverse the effects of the drugs he was giving him
4.The pictures that came out of Michael in the ambulance and in the morgue were admitted to be photo shopped
5.Why did his father do an interview the day after he died promoting his record label (that's a bit insensitive)
6. Germaine on an interview after Michael passed away said "Michael wasn't with us long before he got to the airport, I mean hospital"
7.Lax closed on the day of his death for a time and a private flight with no info left there
8.His family when they talk about him do so in a present tense

There are lots more things that make me think he isn't dead. I of course think his children and family do know about it. I don't think its cruel on the children as he could of just told them that daddy needs to go away from the public eye and so we need to put on a little show (after all I know paris said that he used to teach her how to act).I don't blame him if he did do this, I think he just wanted to live out the rest of his years doing what he wants to do and spend time with his children without being hounded. If I was him I would do the same. I know he loved his fans and wouldn't do anything to hurt them purposely but sometimes you have to think about yourself and your own well being.
Now this is just my opinion and I don't expect everyone to believe that he is still with us but just as I respect your opinion then please respect mine.
Oh and p.s i'm not crazy (well not 100% anyway)
 
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As much as I would love to think that Michael is alive - I really believe he is gone. I wouldn't be angry or even that surprised if he had faked his death. I would find it totally understandable. And stranger things have happened. But I just know deep down - this world was too much for him. His body was too tired and his soul was broken. Those allegations destroyed him without a doubt. He was never the same again.
 
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whoisit81 said:
I found this video in YouTube... I'm shocked! No doubt is Michael ... The thing is: MJ singing Chicago at the end of video?


http://youtu.be/6NaMowtLpRo
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Who the HELL is this person? This person does an amazing job.. It's not Mike simple obvious tell is Michael trying to secretly talk to people would not SING a Michael song.. no sorry..


ok while typing this my youtube went to the next audio and it did not sound like him much.. the first I heard "MJ personally sat in chat. 100% proof for you here!" was much better..
 
MJ Chat Room Alive Conspiracy?

Hi All,

Sorry if this post has already been made. Just wondering what everyone's take on this video/recording - it sounds very much like Michael's talking voice but apparently its from 2015- 2016??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08k4EYP2R44

If it is fake, where is the audio from and if not MJ who do you think is doing the talking with this close resemblance?

Thanks!
 
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He is not aliveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!i repeat he is not f********cking alive!!!! Now stop this damn foolish crap ?enough is enough
 
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