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The Hoax Theory - Discussing Errors, Inconsistencies, Observations and Other Theories

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The saddest thing of all is that many " fans " would disagree with you.
They have been totaly brainwashed the last year and a half...
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I'm glad someone else has noticed. I tend to stay out of the heated threads on this forum, but I was on Max Jax, only for a couple of days of course, and almost every member on there, including the founders, were talking on and on about much of an addict Michael was and how he was an idiot and blah, blah, blah. But Michael's autopsy proved there was no long term drug use. So, whatever. Just wanted to vent about that.

CM: "Your Honor, I am an innocent man. I, therefore, plead not guilty.""

I have to say, I go back and forth on this hoax theory stuff but when I listened to Murray's plea yesterday it felt scripted to me. Planned. Almost out of a movie. I just expected him to utter simply "not guilty". I'm probably reading too much into it. They probably do "rehearse" these plea statements somewhat. But then you look at DI's post above and you have to wonder...
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I saw the video of that right before I read your post. It felt odd to me too. The couple of times I've heard Murray speak though, he's come off as very unnatural and repulsive. Hoax or not, he's a bad actor.

I can't comment on new findings. I need to watch all these videos and catch up. It's been a while since I was in here.
 
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Pretty_Young_Thriller said:
I'm glad someone else has noticed. I tend to stay out of the heated threads on this forum, but I was on Max Jax, only for a couple of days of course, and almost every member on there, including the founders, were talking on and on about much of an addict Michael was and how he was an idiot and blah, blah, blah. But Michael's autopsy proved there was no long term drug use. So, whatever. Just wanted to vent about that.



I saw the video of that right before I read your post. It felt odd to me too. The couple of times I've heard Murray speak though, he's come off as very unnatural and repulsive. Hoax or not, he's a bad actor.

I can't comment on new findings. I need to watch all these videos and catch up. It's been a while since I was in here.
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are you serious????.....and they are suppose to be MJ fans...well I hope you gave them a piece of your mind...lucky for them I am not a member of that lame ass forum....I would totally go off on them and probably get banned...:doh:
 
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Dangerous Incorporated said:
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CM: "Your Honor, I am an innocent man"

Trial for CM: March 28 2011

Trial set for March 28th - Michael Jackson: http://www.geniusmichaeljackson.com/court/Transcripts/Court Transcript 3 28 2005.txt

March 28, 1881 in History Event: Greatest Show On Earth was formed by PT Barnum and James A Bailey

On the 7th of Feb the judge will decide about cams in court, trial will prob last up to 8 weeks, which leads to July 2011......see you in July!

Murray's lawyer said Murray's been waiting 22 months to plea not guilty....22 months? Its only been 19!!!

Judge said: CM is charged in the manslaughter of Michael JOSEPH Jackson the "human being" :p
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^:clapping:Nice! Oh and the rabbit isn't the only toy in the court room! There was another pic showing a Pink Panther toy too! lol
 
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Pretty_Young_Thriller said:
I'm glad someone else has noticed. I tend to stay out of the heated threads on this forum, but I was on Max Jax, only for a couple of days of course, and almost every member on there, including the founders, were talking on and on about much of an addict Michael was and how he was an idiot and blah, blah, blah. But Michael's autopsy proved there was no long term drug use. So, whatever. Just wanted to vent about that.



Thank you ! I know exactly what are you talking about. I don"t know is it alowed to talk about other MJ boards...but that one has gone out of hands !!!!!:puke::puke::puke: I visit Max sometimes and I can"t believe what I read.
One day soon I will speak up.
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remember the rules about the leaked photos of the children
 
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MJstar also believe MJ is a drug addict! I don't go to Max Jax and now probably never after reading what I just read! I had enough wasted time battling the fools over at MJstar sometimes! That place loves tabloids! Always posting TMZ Articles and I also saw the tabloid Mirror over at that site a few times! CRAZY!

If u defend MJ over there they accuse u of thinking he is perfect and that ur in denial! If u bash him then ur not brainwashed and are using common sense! LMFAO

But, that's okay I shut many up by actually proving what I say with facts! U see over there they not down with the autopsy report! They like Diane Dimond don't consider that good enough to prove them wrong! They Judge MJ by sh*t like the 30th ann red carpet appearance with his pants undone and his performance to say he was "high as a kite"
 
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^^^^
Yeah..there are only about 10 pages about the prelim and a upcoming trial. Enough said.
 
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"Soon and very soon, we are going to see the king, soon and very soon we are going to see the king, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, we are going to see the king".......remember when you heard that?

Being serious, I hope the hoax is true, but I'm not placing any bets at the moment.:angel:
 
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zpredra5 said:
Pretty_Young_Thriller said:
I'm glad someone else has noticed. I tend to stay out of the heated threads on this forum, but I was on Max Jax, only for a couple of days of course, and almost every member on there, including the founders, were talking on and on about much of an addict Michael was and how he was an idiot and blah, blah, blah. But Michael's autopsy proved there was no long term drug use. So, whatever. Just wanted to vent about that.



Thank you ! I know exactly what are you talking about. I don"t know is it alowed to talk about other MJ boards...but that one has gone out of hands !!!!!:puke::puke::puke: I visit Max sometimes and I can"t believe what I read.
One day soon I will speak up.
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Just curious, why are you waiting if you feel so strongly about it?
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jemini515 said:
I have a very mixed opinion on Pearl. I have only read the free preview of her Pseudocide book and got the rest in summary from the internet, and I don't think she expresses herself in writing very well. She re-states everything the hoax forums have said from day one, in a more confusing way! Plus I find she has an agenda to remind everyone that Michael was black and into women.... which fans know anyway! I was watching her prelim videos and found she lost credibility when she basically said Michael couldn't sleep because he wasn't getting enough sex. Really, Pearl?

On another topic, I was thinking today about TMZ breaking the news that Michael had died before it was officially called at UCLA. I know some hoax believers take this as a sign that TMZ was in on everything, but I remember the day a few weeks ago when the US congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was shot in the head.... news reports came out that she had died, and then were retracted when it was discovered she was recovering. She is now doing extremely well given her injuries and is going into rehabilitation! This just reminds me that TMZ could have easily taken a gamble that he would not make it; they didn't necessarily have to have inside info.

Just some thoughts....
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I thought the same thing about the MJ couldn't sleep part. I noticed she interviewed Tatiana & Theresa Gonsalves. I thought maybe she should go to Lipstick Alley & read the LIML threads. Lots of 'tea' & great pics.

http://www.lipstickalley.com/f249/ladies-michaels-life-vii-278121/index48.html

Your thought about TMZ is interesting too.
 
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OT but still interesting..
 
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Fancy That!!... well it sounds like it is really quite plausable. A thing I always wondered about really?

Still I saw a video this morning about behind the scenes of the Oprah interview of Katherine Jackson and it set be back to reality, just seeing the behind the scenes reactions showed me Katherine wasnt lying. Not that I really thought she was in the first place, but thought there maybe a side angle to the way the interview questions are placed, so that she doesnt have to be made to lie.

But after seeing the reactions behind the scenes, I am now back to grieving again. Which makes me wonder if is is a good thing to follow the hoax theory any more?.
 
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^^^^
I don"t know is it a good thing....maybe not.
But it still gives me a little hope. I can"t live without that hope right now.
 
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Miche said:
Fancy That!!... well it sounds like it is really quite plausable. A thing I always wondered about really?

Still I saw a video this morning about behind the scenes of the Oprah interview of Katherine Jackson and it set be back to reality, just seeing the behind the scenes reactions showed me Katherine wasnt lying. Not that I really thought she was in the first place, but thought there maybe a side angle to the way the interview questions are placed, so that she doesnt have to be made to lie.

But after seeing the reactions behind the scenes, I am now back to grieving again. Which makes me wonder if is is a good thing to follow the hoax theory any more?.
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I feel the same way. Unless Katherine isn't aware of the hoax, the entire family might not be. But then again, that would be really cruel on MJ's part and it would mean he had a body double dying for him which seems quite a stretch. Reasonably I don't believe the hoax anymore, but a part of me just wants this all to be true and keeps thinking: if anyone could pull it off and had his reasons to do so, then it would be MJ'. But still I think if this happened, he really will not return to the spotlight. Why would he? Whereever he is, he is left in peace now.
 
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Caught up.

The Twilight Zone videos are very entertaining, if nothing else. I'll never watch the Ghosts short film the same anymore after 'identifying the characters'. :lol: Joe. I personally couldn't watch The Twilight Zone. It creeped me out too much.

I thought the Marlowe/Malachi video was interesting only because I'd personally never heard of Marlowe or that whole conspiracy. It's an interesting theory, and the Marlowe/Shakespeare connection could very well be true. Who would know? I feel like it would've been a lot easier to get away with that in the 16th century. BTW, I just saw that Seven CD for auction on eBay with JM's songs on it. It's obviously a fake though, so I don't think it was "to test the waters". It was just Russia, making bad bootlegs as usual. http://cgi.ebay.com/Michael-Jackson...ltDomain_0&hash=item20b6baad48#ht_2236wt_1141


Russia takes their witness protection program serious. Do they go that far in other countries, like America per se? I've never heard of it before, except in movies and television.
 
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I think everyone can agree with this video! SMH When I watch Rebbie on the View right away I said "OH COME ON!" It's tiring how "clueless" they act!
 
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Fluffy_Oz said:
oh my god. is this for real? does anyone know if those toys are permanently there, or...

no, really - what the hell...?
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Very strange, huh? :bugeyed Well, I do not think it's normal to see toys in a courtroom is a place that deals with serious questions. Or not? :fear:

Or maybe the people there are so fond of toys and they were put there to be part of the decoration of the courtroom. :scratch: :smilerolleyes: > *Being ironic now....* :girl_whistle:

It would be interesting if someone could explain it, because I really do not understand or maybe I'm too stupid. :fear:
 
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I think someone within the judicial system needs to explain this about the toys.

Also I personally think they are both MJ at the end, it is just different lighting and angles that affect what you see The eyelids ears mouth etc all look the same to me , just different angles and lighting. The nose sure looks different but if you look closer you can see the nob at the end of the one in the different angle shot.

I sort of wish they wouldnt go on about a double. I have not been convinced by any of these type of shots they present and for me, to some extent, it takes away credibility from the REAL inconsistancies they DO find.
 
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