Rodney Jerkins: MICHAEL KNEW HIS TIME WAS NEAR

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Wow, my mom thought that mj knew his time was coming, she concluded from the this it conference but of course i didn't want to believe her at first and i saw on tbn that paul crouch was with mj a few weeks before he passed
 
I don't get it.. Can someone explain what is going on?? I really can not follow this.
 
i don't get it.. Can someone explain what is going on?? I really can not follow this.

3 weeks before mj died, mj accepted christ and asked pastor paul crouch to do spirtual meetings with him before his passing, rodeny jerkins was basically saying mj knew his life here was coming to an end
 
MJ accepted Christ 3 weeks before he died? :ermm: :unsure:

He was saying that MJ wanted Crouche to sing a song about leaving soon so he was saying MJ must of felt he was dying soon.

I personally don't put much stock in this.
I also think Mj was very aware of his mortality and was always thinking future. Not because it was soon to happen, but because it was inevitable.
 
yes because he accepted Chris, sang the song felt delighted he knew his time was up the next time Rodyney goes to church I guess he'll know his time will be up soon too going by that logic :rolleyes:
I wish ppl would shut their mouth and never utter the words Michael Jackson for at least some time again same applies to some relatives.
 
Is this true? :scratch:

:unsure:

I don't think the part about accepting Christ is true. (BBecause we can deduce from what he has said in his life that this was already the case. However, that is a discussion for another thread. But we really don't know what they meant by "accepted" Christ).
 
is this true? :scratch:

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THAT GUY PAUL CROUCH WAS ON TBN NETWORK CHANNEL TALKING THAT IDK WHO HE WAS UNTIL THEY SAID HIS NAME ON THE SCREEN

His name is André Crouch. He is a pastor and also a long time friend of Michael. He is the guy who walks to Michael and touches him when he is on his knees: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4COxumzxKw

He did say that three weeks before Michael died he and his sister visited him and they were praying together and that Michael had a lot of questions about their faith.
 
His name is André Crouch. He is a pastor and also a long time friend of Michael. He is the guy who walks to Michael and touches him when he is on his knees: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4COxumzxKw

He did say that three weeks before Michael died he and his sister visited him and they were praying together and that Michael had a lot of questions about their faith.

OH SORRY ANDRE I WAS THINKING OF THE GUY WHO OWNED THE CHANNEL OOPS LOL
 
no , Michael wanted to ask him about the way the sing i.e. how they are singing and raising their hand high at the same time....i think Michael wanted to use this while singing Heal the worls and Earth song and WATW....i think he wanted to know the technique , nothing more...Michael is a very religiuous person he does not need to ask any one about any thing when it come to God , remember he many time said he was channelling God in his music and dancing .
 
I just don't get it. why people love to speculate everything related to Michael? We had seen Michael's last day in movie "This is it". How happy and passionate he was! I think if Michael had just one cough, there will be three different stories. The hardest thing in this world is being Michael Jackson.
 
Here is an article about the Andre and Sandra Crouch meeting with Michael

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[FONT=Palatino, Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Did Michael Jackson repent, accept Christ?

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Andrae Crouch
Gospel superstar Andrae Crouch and his twin sister, Sandra, confirm meeting with Michael Jackson and praying and singing with him weeks before his death.
Jackson, raised as a member of the Jehovah's Witness sect and reportedly a convert to Islam last year, sought out the Crouches for inspiration for his upcoming tour, for which he was unprepared, according to a report in Assist News Service.
But while some blogs have reported that meeting led to a spiritual conversion by Jackson, the Crouches say they are not certain.
"Not sure where that came from," said Sandra Crouch on her Facebook page. "We loved and respected Michael and will continue to pray for his family. All the extra is not from us."
A spokesman for the Crouches had this to add: "Andrae and Sandra did in fact visit with Michael Jackson two times, once at the recording studio, and once at his home in the last two months, as recently as three weeks ago, asking for prayer concerning the anointing of the Holy Spirit, and how he could make his music more 'spiritual.' So Andrae and Sandra explained to him about the anointing and about Jesus. He wanted to know what makes your hands go up, and makes you 'come out of yourself,' and what gives a 'spirituality' to the music? He then requested to hear his favorite song that he loves and wanted the(m) to sing to him, so they ... joined hands and sang together, and he said, 'It was beautiful.' He first heard it in New York, and loved it and wanted it on tape. He had the engineer tape the song sang to him by Andrae and Sandra. He definitely had an encounter with them."
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Was there evidence of a conversion?
The Crouch spokesman said: "He did NOT reject Jesus or the prayer when (we) prayed, and gladly joined in prayer. He usually doesn't touch anybody, but he touched them, and held their hands in a circle as they sang and prayed. There was NO actual 'sinners prayer' however, but they did talk and pray about Jesus and the anointing of the Holy Spirit. They also told him, 'Michael, we consider you as our son,' and he said, 'Yes, yes, yes' and gave him his latest music on a CD, and he told him, 'Andrae I trust you with this,' and gave him CDs of 2 songs ... unpublished, beautiful music."







This was the song that they sang at the Memorial -It's on Andre's cd - "The Best Of Andre Crouch"

















It Won't Be Long - This was the song Rodney said Michael requested Andre and Sandra to sing





"YouTube video with Andrae Crouch talking about Michael Jackson raising his hands and trembling during one time when the Holy Spirit was present and Crouch did an altar call while singing “I Surrender All” — he didn’t say Michael Jackson came up, but he said MJ was really affected and said he’d never seen anything like that:"

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I watched that footage with Rodney and I have to say my eyes started to tear up.....
 

WOW! Being the spiritual person that Michael was, I believe it's possible.

EDIT: I have to revise my thinking on this. I have to agree with souldreamer7 on this as she stated below:

I don't feel Michael's spark was going out. Noo I think he had accepted a certain end to a chapter in his life and was excited about a new beginning. He seemed to have that sparkle for art,his art. I feel he had plans. Which maybe wasn't doing Albums & Tours as he had created before,but Films -other prjects,He wanted to bring his art,his vision to a higher level. He seemed to want to paint the Big Picture. What a beautiful canvas that would have been. It makes me sad,but still smile inside knowing what brilliant & magical ideals Michael had brewing inside his soul. "This Is It" was just a peak into what Big Picture his mind & soul had to offer.(not just Sony&AEG etc peak but what we the fans saw) -What a wonderful Visual that was going to be. He was brewing inside and I believe he wanted to make films and do other projects on a higher level be it from behind the scenes,what ever that he had in mind to do and live his second half of life with his children. I think he grew alot within himself after 'the trial' more than we really knew,once he healed and I do believe that he did as much as one could under that kind of pain,he grew stronger. Yes,he seemed aware of the bad around him and was preparing steps to 'take the garbage out' so to speak. I wish he would have gotten to finish that too. Michael wasn't finished yet. No way - I can't give up on Michael that easily. I believe in his creative talent far more. Yes, Michael was probably tired I can see that,but I just don't think he was ready to go - ready to quit completely - even if he never made his creative process be known for the masses, he wasn't finished,not here..In my humble opinion he isn't finished 'over there' either. This is how I believe,this is what my bones tell me..Only Michael knew for sure.
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souldreamer7
 
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no , Michael wanted to ask him about the way the sing i.e. how they are singing and raising their hand high at the same time....i think Michael wanted to use this while singing Heal the worls and Earth song and WATW....i think he wanted to know the technique , nothing more...Michael is a very religiuous person he does not need to ask any one about any thing when it come to God , remember he many time said he was channelling God in his music and dancing .

Uh sometimes a person does seek guidance from a spiritual/minister and they do it often. Some do it daily and others well......
I do know the Crouches and love them. My husbands parents attend their church regularly.
Not everybody knows everything, we may know a lot but not everthing, OK?:angel:
Another thing folks, none of us are getting out of here alive! Just know this! I am very happy that he did seek prayers from the Crouches three weeks prior which mean he is truly an ANGEL in heavan watching over us here in hell. Michael dear, you're in a better place now. Bless you
 
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I love Rodney he really knew Michael and you can see he really feels sad about Michael's passing, that is OF course cause he knew Michael personally.

I think Michael started to feel in an uncouscious way he was kinda tired of everything, like when you no longer know why or for what you are living for, unconsciously i think he was kinda tired, i dont see it like Michael knew he was gonna die.... but he was having many health problems... i mean he was a little weak... i think Michael was kinda tired of everything, like you know when the sparkle kinda starts to slowly desappear.

RIP Michael, LOVE YOU
 
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The Crouch spokesman said: "He did NOT reject Jesus or the prayer when (we) prayed, and gladly joined in prayer. He usually doesn't touch anybody, but he touched them,and held their hands in a circle as they sang and prayed.

Whatever makes people feel better I suppose -everyone has a right to their belief.
I believe that Michael hadn't any plans on leaving this earth. As far as this video and article goes,I believe Michael was very spiritual and wanted to know,wanted to feel every aspect that he could with the higher power. These ways he truely had faith in.
One part of this article I bolded really made me wonder..about Michael Not touching other people? Really??? I've seen him touch people often. Am I missing something about that? Just curious about what you guys think of that quote??



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I don't feel Michael's spark was going out. Noo I think he had accepted a certain end to a chapter in his life and was excited about a new beginning. He seemed to have that sparkle for art,his art. I feel he had plans. Which maybe wasn't doing Albums & Tours as he had created before,but Films -other prjects,He wanted to bring his art,his vision to a higher level. He seemed to want to paint the Big Picture. What a beautiful canvas that would have been. It makes me sad,but still smile inside knowing what brilliant & magical ideals Michael had brewing inside his soul. "This Is It" was just a peak into what Big Picture his mind & soul had to offer.(not just Sony&AEG etc peak but what we the fans saw) -What a wonderful Visual that was going to be. He was brewing inside and I believe he wanted to make films and do other projects on a higher level be it from behind the scenes,what ever that he had in mind to do and live his second half of life with his children. I think he grew alot within himself after 'the trial' more than we really knew,once he healed and I do believe that he did as much as one could under that kind of pain,he grew stronger. Yes,he seemed aware of the bad around him and was preparing steps to 'take the garbage out' so to speak. I wish he would have gotten to finish that too. Michael wasn't finished yet. No way - I can't give up on Michael that easily. I believe in his creative talent far more. Yes, Michael was probably tired I can see that,but I just don't think he was ready to go - ready to quit completely - even if he never made his creative process be known for the masses, he wasn't finished,not here..In my humble opinion he isn't finished 'over there' either. This is how I believe,this is what my bones tell me..Only Michael knew for sure.
:wub: :angel:
souldreamer7
 
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yes he knew his time was near when you know people are plotting to kill you of course Michael knew. Michael told a few people who he felt believe him that he was going to die and them "monsters" was plotting years to try to kill him they finally did but his love lives on through his fans you can not stop god's child michael was heaven sent
 
3 weeks before mj died, mj accepted christ and asked pastor paul crouch to do spirtual meetings with him before his passing, rodeny jerkins was basically saying mj knew his life here was coming to an end
Andre crouch is a gospel singer who michael visited with during that time, and michael likes this gospel song, called it want be long, soon I (we) will be leaving here. andre crouch had mentioned michael wanted him to sing this song and that they prayed together put he did not know if michael accepted christ or not. there was a video and reply from andre crouch during that time.
 
I just don't get it. why people love to speculate everything related to Michael? We had seen Michael's last day in movie "This is it". How happy and passionate he was! I think if Michael had just one cough, there will be three different stories. The hardest thing in this world is being Michael Jackson.

I agree...Like i said michael Knew his fate but he didn't think he would go out like that they way they plotting his death was the most horrible I always felt in my heart that ok Maybe when Mike do pass it would be natural courses you couldn't tell me June 25. 2009 Michael died from an heart attack I thought they was going to report his condition with lupus failed him not some damn powerful Drug. He was killed he stress this so many times and many pay no attention
 
Michael was treated so bad in the last 7 years, they killed his spirit, Michael was a very sensitive person and well, one could see he was wasted and he could no longer understand human nature, they did him wrong.
So sad they (media and stuff) touched his soul, he was wounded, one could see his pain.
RIP Michael, you live forever now, and noone can hurt you anymore.
:cry: love you Michael, you are forever at peace now. Im so sad so many people could not understand him, and well i think he got tired of trying to understand human nature... they did him wrong, Michael was special, noone(except for some like us or sensitive people like him) thought about that, and they just crusified him.... it was meant to be a tragedy, he was too sensitive for this world.
 
Seems like the Crouch's deny the accepting Christ part. But it sounds like he did seek out spiritual guidance. But seeking out spiritual guidance or accepting Christ doesn't neccessarily mean you think you are going to die.
And coming from a Christian back ground I have to say most of the hymns and spiritual songs say something about leaving this world or the sorrows of this world and the joys of heavan.
Michael was always a very spiritual person and liked talking to other spiritual people. Unfortunately Shmuley and Chopra included. The Crouch's at least are decent people.

I don't think Michael asking spiritual questions and feeling like he wanted his songs to be more spiritual equates to him realizing he was going to die. But of course, that is just my opinion.

I also don't get the part where they say he never touched anyone. Maybe that is just their impression?
 
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