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by randy going on about the spellings/versions of the kids name on the will hes basically saying that mj would not have left money to his own kids. otherwsie whats he trying to imply? it makes no sense at all as normal.
 
I don't get what Randy is trying to say. That because the kids names are wrong that means someone else wrote the will or what?
 
well hes saying the will is fake and thats one of the reasons. someone needs to ask him who mj would have left his money to then. bascially its fake cause hes not in it
 
Justthefacts said:
Madoff was a crock stealing money from his clients. BP appears to not give two craps about the mess they made how can you put AEG in that category? AEG is a multi billion dollar company they had no reason to force Michael to do anything. Go take a look at what they own they dwarf Michael. They would have no reason to force Michael to do anything. When you think about it AEG gave Michael a chance and from what we saw and from we know he was making the most of it. All Joe and others have is a lot of empty words. I go by what I see and what I know show me proof that AEG was doing this. Words are just that words without proof we know that from 05. I think that people just are having a hard time with the fact that Michael was killed because of someone else's errors. If we were to find out others were involved in how Michael died it would somehow make us feel better. However the facts right now are someone screwed up and it cost Michael his life
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your opinion is your opinion...especially about the part where you say AEG dwarfs Michael. sometimes i think there is more preconceived notion than fact stating.

if u wanna see AEG the way you see it..that's u. but that's ur opinion.

i don't think u knew about Madoff till he was revealed. and BP was, and still is a giant. obviously, that means nothing.

if Randy Jackson ends up saying it, will you believe? no. you have your ideas about AEG, and nothing can change them...even if it turns out like you don't want.
 
elusive moonwalker said:
by randy going on about the spellings/versions of the kids name on the will hes basically saying that mj would not have left money to his own kids. otherwsie whats he trying to imply? it makes no sense at all as normal.
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sloride said:
I don't get what Randy is trying to say. That because the kids names are wrong that means someone else wrote the will or what?
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Exactly Sloride. From what I can gather in some quarters (and I know this is probably not the forum for this), the errors in the children's names and the NYC/LA discrepancy are being used to promote the idea that not only was the will/trust written by Branca (and possibly McClain) but they inserted themselves as executors and are thus now profiting handsomely from the current situation. In other words the decision to leave the money to MJ3, Katherine & charities isn't being questioned so much as the choice of who was going to control this vast empire, surprise surprise :smilerolleyes:
 
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your opinion is your opinion...especially about the part where you say AEG dwarfs Michael. sometimes i think there is more preconceived notion than fact stating.

if u wanna see AEG the way you see it..that's u. but that's ur opinion.

i don't think u knew about Madoff till he was revealed. and BP was, and still is a giant. obviously, that means nothing.

if Randy Jackson ends up saying it, will you believe? no. you have your ideas about AEG, and nothing can change them...even if it turns out like you don't want.
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And this also goes to you
 
Justthefacts said:
And this also goes to you
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sure...but the difference between me and you, right now, is that i know that the bigger the money pot, the more the temptation, and possibility of corruption. this idea that somebody having billions of dollars is less likely to be tempted, is a fantasy. have you heard about the University of Southern California athletic program? GIANT university. big money. just found out yesterday that corruption landed upon the university. so you are wrong about more money equals less temptation and corruption. quite the opposite. and i don't need proof of that. it's happening like lightning, every day. give us a year, and i'm sure i'll have some other big corporation to add to the list. if i were a betting person and you, too, i'd have a good chance of winning that bet about the billion dollar corp. if AEG is soo not in need, then they could have settled for a lot less concerts. remember, Michael was not the one doing the begging to perform sooo many concerts.

you sit back and watch with me...and we will see what Randy Jackson has to say, in the future.
 
honeysucklejasmine said:
Exactly Sloride. From what I can gather in some quarters (and I know this is probably not the forum for this), the errors in the children's names and the NYC/LA discrepancy are being used to promote the idea that not only was the will/trust written by Branca (and possibly McClain) but they inserted themselves as executors and are thus now profitinghandsomely from the currentsituation. In other words the decision
to leave the money to MJ3, Katherine & charities isn't being questioned so much as
the choice of who was going to control this
vast empire, surprise surprise
:smilerolleyes:
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and who else MJ could have chosen? It's not like MJ would have picked anyone in his family. That we know for sure.

Randy is delusional... & crazy.

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Memefan said:
and who else MJ could gave chose? It's not like MJ would have picked anyone in his family.
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I totally agree, I don't think he would have either and his decision is being vindicated day after day after day with the family's ill-advised schemes which appear to promise much but deliver little - not the people Michael would want in charge of growing his estate IMO. It's a bitter pill for some to swallow so naturally the executors become targets with this 'fake will' nonsense.
 
When does the ' I don't want to say more' turn into ' this is the time

to say it'?
 
elusive moonwalker said:
by randy going on about the spellings/versions of the kids name on the will hes basically saying that mj would not have left money to his own kids. otherwsie whats he trying to imply? it makes no sense at all as normal.
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I don't subscribe to this conspiracy theory but I think I have the feel of what they 'believe' (anyone who follows that theory feel free to correct me)..

I think the conpiracy theory being implied is that because of the mistakes such as the childrens' names, and the error in the location (LA when he was actually in NY on that date) the 2002 Will is fake, written by someone else - the Branca/executors (idk?) and has been in the hands of Branca. This is why we have Oxman with his letter from MJ which sacks Branca and asks him to return any documents, so (I think?) they're saying he couldn't have had the 'real' Will.

Then they say there should be a more recent Will as Michael updated it every 4 or 5 years (I don't know where this information came from)...they believe this 'missing Will' had different executors named (as Branca had been sacked) and has been destroyed.

Basically the issue relating to the conpiracy theorists is not MJ wouldn't leave the children his money, it is that he would not have Branca as executor controlling his Estate, because he sacked him...

Oxman has been going on about when Michael hired a private investigating firm to investigate Branca (and others) and some offshore accounts to see if he was stealing money along with Motolla (apparently the reason MJ sacked Branca is not because he was sure of any money stealing but a precaution because of the offshore accounts, and I think because he was representing Sony too which isn't allowed).

Though I don't really see what difference it makes, because from what I can see the executors can't just take Michael's money.. except for their wage. Unless they believe there is illegal activity going on.

Again, I don't believe this, just trying to explain the 'conspiracy' theory.

If this isn't allowed here mods can delete it.
 
Rockin. said:
Basically the issue relating to the conpiracy theorists is not MJ wouldn't leave the children his money, it is that he would not have Branca as executor controlling his Estate, because he sacked him...
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I think the letter Brian Oxman has is from 2003. If Branca resigned in 2006,

he must have certainly been hired back sometime between 2003 and 2006,

so I don't know why 2003 is being repeated as if that had been the end of

MJ and Branca's working relationship.
 
And from what I understand, MJ rehired Branca a few weeks before he died.
 
Rockin. said:
I don't subscribe to this conspiracy theory but I think I have the feel of what they 'believe' (anyone who follows that theory feel free to correct me)..

I think the conpiracy theory being implied is that because of the mistakes such as the childrens' names, and the error in the location (LA when he was actually in NY on that date) the 2002 Will is fake, written by someone else - the Branca/executors (idk?) and has been in the hands of Branca. This is why we have Oxman with his letter from MJ which sacks Branca and asks him to return any documents, so (I think?) they're saying he couldn't have had the 'real' Will.

Then they say there should be a more recent Will as Michael updated it every 4 or 5 years (I don't know where this information came from)...they believe this 'missing Will' had different executors named (as Branca had been sacked) and has been destroyed.

Basically the issue relating to the conpiracy theorists is not MJ wouldn't leave the children his money, it is that he would not have Branca as executor controlling his Estate, because he sacked him...

Oxman has been going on about when Michael hired a private investigating firm to investigate Branca (and others) and some offshore accounts to see if he was stealing money along with Motolla (apparently the reason MJ sacked Branca is not because he was sure of any money stealing but a precaution because of the offshore accounts, and I think because he was representing Sony too which isn't allowed).

Though I don't really see what difference it makes, because from what I can see the executors can't just take Michael's money.. except for their wage. Unless they believe there is illegal activity going on.

Again, I don't believe this, just trying to explain the 'conspiracy' theory.

If this isn't allowed here mods can delete it.
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REgardless if Branca never returned the will...IF there is a more recent one where is it? Who has it? According to these people it's not Branca..so Again, why no one has come up with that recent will?

I am assuming, MJ again did not nominate Randy as an executor since he does not have a copy of that mysterious recent will.
 
Personally I don't believe in a more recent will because if there was one someone would have come forward with it. Several people are usually involved in preparing a will - lawyers, witnesses, executors. Somebody would have come forward.
 
^^^This.

Also, I don't see what the problem is about where he signed the will. Different states have different laws in governing how a will is carried out. If MJ and his family all lived in LA, why would he put NY even though he was there when he signed it. Naturally he would still want laws of the state of his residence to govern, hence why he put LA.

It makes perfect sense to me.
 
Ashtanga said:
June 17 (or 16 - I do not remember the day but was in June.), 2009. Strange that the document hiring Branca, not leaked...... yet.
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I think I have seen the Branca hiring letter. It must have leaked
 
I know it's kind of on topic here, but can we please come away from discussing the conspiracy theory too heavily here. Please feel free to carry it on in the conspiracy forum from here. :)
 
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