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Randy is going to be on CNN live shortly

My prayer is that God
will allow Michael Jackson to continue to watch over his children. :angel:
 
dianadebraga said:
Sorry ... with due respect ... a more lasting and loyal a fan that is, not compare with relationship between Parent & child ... for 12 years, the 3 lived, living daily with Michael, it will not fade in 2,3 years.

Not even the most loyal fan of three decades, should know, having the CLOSENESS that Prince, Paris & Blanket had and lived with THEIR father.

You think with time - if is that they already dont know - they will not see, feel the target of envy that Michael was, and that for many their father was merely a cash-cow ... they arent little kids.

Is clear the Jacksons only make facade, but arent united, you really think PPB will not see as Jacksons are in fact.
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i am not saying that they will be brainwash definitely ,i am just worried about them because it is very sudden and a lot to take in .
i have faith in michaels parenthood.
i am just saying that this is too much at this point .i saw that those kids are strong will and i want them to stay that way that's all .
 
I just wish the truth will come out. It will be almost one year that Michael passed away and we are still here going in circles as to what really happened to him. If this was my brother I would be out in the streets and on tv protesting that my brother be given justice and would want some answers. Instead all we hear is : "Oh you will know more later... or when the time comes the truth will come out." The truth should have been out a lonnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggg time ago! I have kept my faith everyone but with Randy speaking like that it has topped the cake.
 
jrsfan said:
I don't know what to believe, but I have seen plenty of companies do many illegal if not unethical things - Madoff, the banks, BP - there are all sorts of examples of corporate greed - happens all too often.
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Madoff was a crock stealing money from his clients. BP appears to not give two craps about the mess they made how can you put AEG in that category? AEG is a multi billion dollar company they had no reason to force Michael to do anything. Go take a look at what they own they dwarf Michael. They would have no reason to force Michael to do anything. When you think about it AEG gave Michael a chance and from what we saw and from we know he was making the most of it. All Joe and others have is a lot of empty words. I go by what I see and what I know show me proof that AEG was doing this. Words are just that words without proof we know that from 05. I think that people just are having a hard time with the fact that Michael was killed because of someone else's errors. If we were to find out others were involved in how Michael died it would somehow make us feel better. However the facts right now are someone screwed up and it cost Michael his life
 
ivy said:
Randy is forgetting that his family actually acted quicker then the lawyers/executors. His family went to court saying that Michael died without a will and had Katherine designated as temporary executor.

The executors filed the will and got the executor position from them/Katherine at a later date.
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Yes they were in a big hurry to announce they were in charge. Wasn't Joe reading a statement at BET?

Ah yes:

Michael Jackson's father said in a statement Sunday evening that he and his wife Katherine had the sole personal and legal authority to act on behalf of "our son and his children."
Joe Jackson's publicist read the statement as she stood next to the family patriarch during a red carpet interview with CNN as he arrived at the Black Entertainment Television awards at the Shrine auditorium in Los Angeles.
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From June 28 L.A. Now: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lan...sole-authority-to-act-on-michaels-behalf.html
 
gerryevans said:
The one thing the fake will theory never clears up is if this one is fake, WHERE is the real one?

Does Randy or anybody really believe that Michael did not do a will?

Or is it that MJ did one and it favors the family and it's been destroyed?
If there was one favoring the family, wouldn't someone in the family or their lawyer been given a copy?
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gerryevans, I have been searching for the way to say this for the LONGEST TIME. And you did so succintly. Bless you.
 
First time i heard RANDY speak. What was the purpose of this interview.? To pat himself on the back for his recent charity deed. Why wasn't he doing this all his life.?

Randy has so many things going against him. You can't get pass that HEAD to take him seriously. And the moment he implies CONSPIRACY, and FAKE WILL he looses the majority of the audience.
 
ummm?? problem is everyone has a motive... his family who loved him have a motive and the company he worked for have a motive...

only God knows the truth...

RIP Michael and protect your children....
 
I see Randy is now going full throttle...Now he is on twitter every other day & is giving interviews to X17 & cnn.

Could it be he finally saw the trust document & realize the kids won't get the control until they are old enough not to be bullied by the likes of Randy & Joe into making damaging decisions? He's been going harder since the trust document was made public.

If the will is fake..the trust MJ made starting in 1995 still name the same three trustees. Randy is crewed. poor guy.
 
I appreciate enlightenu's commitment to being fair and balanced. However, for me the difference is that Michael Jackson is now dead and if the family have proof of who might be involved, then they should go to the police with that proof and simply say to the world 'it is in the hands of the law'.

It really is time to put up or shut up because MICHAEL IS DEAD and HE DESERVES TO GET JUSTICE FOR THE WAY HE DIED.

So if the Jackson family do not have proof of who else might have been involved then they need to SHUT UP.

Simples.
 
TheChosenOne said:
I appreciate enlightenu's commitment to being fair and balanced. However, for me the difference is that Michael Jackson is now dead and if the family have proof of who might be involved, then they should go to the police with that proof and simply say to the world 'it is in the hands of the law'.

It really is time to put up or shut up because MICHAEL IS DEAD and HE DESERVES TO GET JUSTICE FOR THE WAY HE DIED.

So if the Jackson family do not have proof of who else might have been involved then they need to SHUT UP.

Simples.
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I agree with THIS!!!!
 
Dangerous Incorporated said:
Yes all 3 of Michaels childrens name ARE spelt wrong. When I wrote my will up, I know Im a competent parent enough to spell my kids names correctly.




The names in the Will are:
  • Prince Michael Joseph Jackson Jr
  • Paris Michael Katherine Jackson
  • Prince Michael Joseph Jackson II
WRONG!




The children's real name are:
  • Michael Joseph Jackson Jr (no Prince)
  • Paris-Michael Katherine Jackson ('-')
  • Prince Michael Jackson II (no Joseph)
All errors in MJs Will:
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86099
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Yes, this is kind of weird. Why wouldn't you put the nicknames in parenthesis? (Blanket)

I don't know what to think anymore. Everything around MJ is always questionable. I can't imagine why Michael's siblings would suggest he was a drug addict and some of the other stuff they say-unless they are trying to sue for wrongful death. I always take everything with a grain of salt. The whole situation is just sad.
I want to give the Jacksons the benefit of the doubt, but they do some stupid stuff.


Originally Posted by gerryevans
The one thing the fake will theory never clears up is if this one is fake, WHERE is the real one?

Does Randy or anybody really believe that Michael did not do a will?

Or is it that MJ did one and it favors the family and it's been destroyed?
If there was one favoring the family, wouldn't someone in the family or their lawyer been given a copy?

Good point!
 
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Justthefacts said:
Madoff was a crock stealing money from his clients. BP appears to not give two craps about the mess they made how can you put AEG in that category? AEG is a multi billion dollar company they had no reason to force Michael to do anything. Go take a look at what they own they dwarf Michael. They would have no reason to force Michael to do anything. When you think about it AEG gave Michael a chance and from what we saw and from we know he was making the most of it. All Joe and others have is a lot of empty words. I go by what I see and what I know show me proof that AEG was doing this. Words are just that words without proof we know that from 05. I think that people just are having a hard time with the fact that Michael was killed because of someone else's errors. If we were to find out others were involved in how Michael died it would somehow make us feel better. However the facts right now are someone screwed up and it cost Michael his life
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I don't know if they are in that category or not, but MJ is worth more dead than alive. It would have cost Phillips his career, maybe Leiweke also, if MJ had backed out. They would have reason to force MJ to do something. Phillips said if Mj had stage fright he would throw him over his shoulders to get him on stage. Odd thing to say- the do or die moment too. Did Phillips ever threaten MJ? There are many people we haven't heard from that I would like to hear under oath. It is important to get to the truth.
 
jrsfan said:
I don't know if they are in that category or not, but MJ is worth more dead than alive.
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Talents likes Michael Jackson, will always be worth much in death, no matter if it was a year ago or 10, 15, 25 years ago. Independent of the time that MJ died his death would generate a lot of money.

This talk "is worth more dead than alive", is same as saying that he was unable to make his concerts, what has been proven the opposite and persons around him always denied.
 
Don't forget : Michael was a drug addict... thanks Joe , Oxman, Janet to remember that.

So when you are a drug addict, it's normal to not remember the name of your children sometimes...
 
Dangerous Incorporated said:
Yes all 3 of Michaels childrens name ARE spelt wrong. When I wrote my will up, I know Im a competent parent enough to spell my kids names correctly.

The names in the Will are:
  • Prince Michael Joseph Jackson Jr
  • Paris Michael Katherine Jackson
  • Prince Michael Joseph Jackson II

WRONG!

The children's real name are:
  • Michael Joseph Jackson Jr (no Prince)
  • Paris-Michael Katherine Jackson ('-')
  • Prince Michael Jackson II (no Joseph)
All errors in MJs Will:
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86099
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So the question the court's gonna ask is: Do these 3 very minor mistakes prevent you from knowing who MJ meant to leave his estate to?

Because there is a missing dash in Paris' name....does it prevent you from knowing MJ meant Paris Jackson & not Paris Hilton?

Because MJ put Prince's nickname, are you confusing him with anyone but his first son?

And about the Joseph added to Blanket's...did Michael know any other person with that same name?

And last question, MJ left everything to his 3 kids. And regardless of the spelling errors, are you confuse to who these 3 kids are?

I have seen will with middle names missing, with just the 1st & last name of the individual. MJ did not type the will himself...a lawyer did. So MJ probably told him 40% to my kids..40% to Katherine...and the lawyer assumed because there is a Prince II, there must be a prince I.


One last question...Katherine's middle name (Esther) is also missing...Should she lose her inheritance???
 
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in the will, Debbie's name is wrong also : it's written Deborah Jean Rowe Jackson

Her real name is Deborah Jeanne Rowe ; I believe that she kept Jackson for some time after their divorce.

But it's Jeanne or Jean; maybe 2 different Debbie's. LOL

In Paris's birth certificate, it's also Jean; Maybe the certificate is fake also. LOL

MJ's real name is Michael Joe Jackson (not Joseph); MJ used Joseph in many official docs. I guess they are fake also. LOL


It's a non-issue; the will expresses clearly his INTENT
 
marc_vivien said:
in the will, Debbie's name is wrong also : it's written Deborah Jean Rowe Jackson

Her real name is Deborah Jeanne Rowe ; I believe that she kept Jackson for some time after their divorce.

But it's Jeanne or Jean; maybe 2 different Debbie's. LOL

In Paris's birth certificate, it's also Jean; Maybe the certificate is fake also. LOL

MJ's real name is Michael Joe Jackson (not Joseph); MJ used Joseph in many official docs. I guess they are fake also. LOL


It's a non-issue; the will expresses clearly his INTENT
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Why do people keep saying his middle name is Joe...not Joseph? MJ has ALWAYS said his middle name is Joseph..listen to the Dangerous testimony.
 
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Memefan said:
Why do people keep saying is middle name is Joe...not Joseph? MJ has ALWAYS said his middle name is Joseph..listen to the Dangerous testimony.
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In his driver's license, it's Joe.

Whatever, it's not an issue
 
The family only has issues with the Will, because they are left out from it (except for Katherine, the kids and three nephews/cousins).

I personally think the Will is wise and well thought-out and I am not surprised at all Michael didn't leave anything to his father and siblings. I think this way, that the Estate is managed by Branca and Co and not by Joe, Jermaine or Randy, Michael's kids will actually still have something to inherit when they grow up. If it would be in Joe's and the brothers' hands I don't think it would be the case! Just look at the projects Joe and Jermaine were planning since Michael's death and look at what deals the Estate made! Michael was wise with this Will! If his brothers and father can't accept that his kids were Nr 1 priority for him, well, their problem. Time to look for a job, Randy!
 
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Gina_Marie said:
He said MJ would never allow the misspelling of his childrens name on the documents
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Oh, as if Michael ever cared about spelling! Have you guys ever read hand-written documents by him? Lots of spelling mistakes all the time! He just didn't care!
 
respect77 said:
Oh, as if Michael ever cared about spelling! Have you guys ever read hand-written documents by him? Lots of spelling mistakes all the time! He just didn't care!
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Shows you how well he knew his bro. But then again,, this is coming from someone who willingly drove his car into MJ's house to get his attention.
 
144 said:
i know they are kids...but they come across as strong, to me. strength can come in supposedly weak looking packages. Prince had at least 12 years of what he heard in the press, to keep him from saying what he said on the grammy stage. and..Paris had just about as much time to be brainwashed, to change what she said at the memorial. so, if it couldn't be done to them in the past 12 years..i don't see how they'll be brainwashed in the next 30 or so. with each day, they only gain more knowledge..and quite frankly, they all looked intimidating to me, when they spoke with such conviction. i wouldn't want to cross them, with a bad statement about their father, if i met them. that's how much i am impressed by them.
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I so hope you're right. But they're heading into the treacherous adolescent years and those are some of the roughest under normal circumstances, when self awareness and that need to "fit in" have undermined the strongest foundations and belief systems. I think it's very good that they're still being home schooled and do not have to contend yet with the nastiness that other adolescents are capable of.

But it does bother me that in their own home, they might be getting the impression their father was a drug addicted simpleton who had no mind of his own.
 
Memefan said:
Shows you how well he knew his bro. But then again,, this is coming from someone who willingly drove his car into MJ's house to get his attention.
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Nothing surprising to me, what about this family that allows one person like Leonard Rowe speech in his funeral.

When Michael more than 20 years ago, made clear publicly what he think/thought that bad character.
 
respect77 said:
The family only has issues with the Will, because they are left out from it (except for Katherine, the kids and three nephews/cousins).

I personally think the Will is wise and well thought-out and I am not surprised at all Michael didn't leave anything to his father and siblings. I think this way, that the Estate is managed by Branca and Co and not by Joe, Jermaine or Randy, Michael's kids will actually still have something to inherit when they grow up. If it would be in Joe's and the brothers' hands I don't think it would be the case! Just look at the projects Joe and Jermaine were planning since Michael's death and look at what deals the Estate made! Michael was wise with this Will! If his brothers and father can't accept that his kids were Nr 1 priority for him, well, their problem. Time to look for a job, Randy!
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Have to admit that I was surprised he didn't leave a smidgen to Joe and the siblings, but realize now it was another testament to his brillilance. He knew exactly what he was doing.
 
respect77 said:
Oh, as if Michael ever cared about spelling! Have you guys ever read hand-written documents by him? Lots of spelling mistakes all the time! He just didn't care!
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LOL...You are so right...MJ only cared about getting the message across, which he clearly did with his will.
 
Someone can please tell me what did Randy said in the end of the first video when he talks about his sister Janet ? I can't hear.
 
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