Randall Sullivan's book "Untouchable"

[HIStory]

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Lisa and Michael may have had "sexual contact", but he claims Lisa Marie doesn't really know what sex is.

:bugeyed

And this guy calls MJ fans crazy and delusional? I almost feel like tweeting this to LMP and see what she says... It may be news to her that with four children she does not really know what sex is.

 

[la_cienega]

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:bugeyed

And this guy calls MJ fans crazy and delusional? I almost feel like tweeting this to LMP and see what she says... It may be news to her that with four children she does not really know what sex is.

Sex with Mike is different! He wants to impregnate a woman and he's off tickling her elbows or whatever asexual presexual crapola he thinks Mike thought sex was. All that porn and no idea what to do with his own penis. Those G spot articles were clearly far too advanced for him.

I also just realized: he claims now that Mike didn't wear the prosthetic to sleep, hence why the coroner didn't find it (even though we can see him with a nose on the table). And yet in his book he claims the coroner had to cut this prosthetic that was taped on: "A bandage covers his nose so cut away that, without a prosthetic, it looked like little more than a pair of slightly ridged nostrils." So he's willing to change his story when confronted with evidence that debunks it. That's shameful.

But it's great he claimed Mike didn't sleep with it and so wasn't wearing it in autopsy, it confirms Mike had his nose because there in the autopsy photos it is.

 

[ilmjj]

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Michael Jackson put up with sort of bull sh*t his whole life! Sometimes I am gald he doesn't have to endure it anymore. But I am selfish i guess because I would rather he be here with us.

This bastard Sulliven was on AccessHollywood last night and said Debbie and Michael never had sex and Prince and Paris were by invitro fertilization. He said the kids didn't even know Debbie Rowe was their mother until they went online after Michael died. Billy Bush just stood there and said "interesting" Why doesn't somebody have the balls to stand up for Michael besides the MJFam?

I am disgusted and I want to hit this guy. Michael was right~Anything For Money~Randy Sullivan in the words of Michael Jackson "you're a parasite in black and white"

 

[speechlesslove4michael]

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:bugeyed

And this guy calls MJ fans crazy and delusional? I almost feel like tweeting this to LMP and see what she says... It may be news to her that with four children she does not really know what sex is.

I would love to see her reaction to that. She could get all angry on him lol

 

[HIStory]

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Sex with Mike is different! He wants to impregnate a woman and he's off tickling her elbows or whatever asexual presexual crapola he thinks Mike thought sex was. All that porn and no idea what to do with his own penis. Those G spot articles were clearly far too advanced for him.

But based on that claim, according to Sullivan not only MJ but LMP too is asexual. Or at least does not really know what sex is...

Why on Earth is it allowed for these people to come up with such crap without any evidence? I hope this book will be a HUGE flop and Randall goes back to writing books on religious hallucinacions, like before.

 

[The Brown Gangsta]

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Please also warn friends and family not to buy you this crap for birthday/holiday gifts. Sometimes I'm surprised at the things people think I might want just because Michael's name/picture are on them.

 

[HIStory]

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Yep. Randall alerted his buddies who now are giving 5-star reviews on Amazon. I looked into the history of the poster of the latest 5-star review and he usually comments on religious books. Sullivan frequents on religious message boards as he is a devout Catholic and he wrote a book on Medjugorje.

 

[la_cienega]

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But based on that claim, according to Sullivan not only MJ but LMP too is asexual. Or at least does not really know what sex is...

Why on Earth is it allowed for these people to come up with such crap without any evidence? I hope this book will be a HUGE flop and Randall goes back to writing books on religious hallucinacions, like before.

He basically suggests she was so caught up in him - this asexual manbaby he suggests at some points fantasizes about diapered cherubs in his child molestation room he had built into Neverland - that she was willing to settle for whatever this tickling of the underside of her knee sex he thinks they had. I mean, he claims Mike only held hands with Brooke ("there was one time she got real intimate" Toya has gone on and on about the "tongue down my throat" stuff) and Tatum ("yes I made out with MJ") and uses only those two as the only other girlfriends ever with him. Lisa Marie is a woman who had something like 10 former lovers before MJ, lesbian lovers too, but she was settling on this not-really-sex from Michael for 6 years, and he was wanting a baby with her, and neither of them knew how to get passed the over the clothes sex.

It's weird, he quotes her stuff about attending Mike's tomb with sunflowers and the "I Will Always Love You" vase, but he thinks she just loved him as a really good friend? She dreams about being entwined with him at night, but they were just super touchy feely first basers?

It's all so silly.

People cannot fathom Michael as a real person who bedded his wives or had a nose. That Michael Jackson to them is from another planet. This noseless guy who doesn't know what sex is the believable version.

He says there's a photo out there which shows MJ didn't have a nose, he allowed it to be taken one time. Anyone know what this photo is? Because it's right there in the autopsy with him.

 

[MJTheKing]

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This bastard Sulliven was on AccessHollywood last night and said Debbie and Michael never had sex and Prince and Paris were by invitro fertilization. He said the kids didn't even know Debbie Rowe was their mother until they went online after Michael died. Billy Bush just stood there and said "interesting" Why doesn't somebody have the balls to stand up for Michael besides the MJFam?


^^^^

I'm sorry but that bastard needs to shut the fuck up, Paris and Prince met Debbie in 2006 in London and maybe they did before, the thing about them searching about her to know who she is after MJ's doesn't make sense when they actually sat down with her after MJ's death.... AND they way he makes like the kids used the internet for the first time after their father death is completely false!!!! Paris said on Twitter MJ allowed them to use the internet for watching cartoon and stuff.

Let's not forget Michael told Prince about the fuckery around them, them kids aren't blinded that much.

 

[HIStory]

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He basically suggests she was so caught up in him - this asexual manbaby he suggests at some points fantasizes about diapered cherubs in his child molestation room he had built into Neverland - that she was willing to settle for whatever this tickling of the underside of her knee sex he thinks they had. I mean, he claims Mike only held hands with Brooke ("there was one time she got real intimate" Toya has gone on and on about the "tongue down my throat" stuff) and Tatum ("yes I made out with MJ") and uses only those two as the only other girlfriends ever with him. Lisa Marie is a woman who had something like 10 former lovers before MJ, lesbian lovers too, but she was settling on this not-really-sex from Michael for 6 years, and he was wanting a baby with her, and neither of them knew how to get passed the over the clothes sex.

It's weird, he quotes her stuff about attending Mike's tomb with sunflowers and the "I Will Always Love You" vase, but he thinks she just loved him as a really good friend? She dreams about being entwined with him at night, but they were just super touchy feely first basers?

It's all so silly.

People cannot fathom Michael as a real person who bedded his wives or had a nose. That Michael Jackson to them is from another planet. This noseless guy who doesn't know what sex is the believable version.

He says there's a photo out there which shows MJ didn't have a nose, he allowed it to be taken one time. Anyone know what this photo is? Because it's right there in the autopsy with him.

As dumb as he is, I would not be surprised if he meant this:

http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/Michael-Jackson-Has-A-Detachable-Nose-2.jpg

 

[MJTheKing]

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He says there's a photo out there which shows MJ didn't have a nose, he allowed it to be taken one time. Anyone know what this photo is? Because it's right there in the autopsy with him.

Folks on Twitter say he uses this one http://news.softpedia.com/news/Michael-Jackson-Has-A-Detachable-Nose-6443.shtml

A photoshopped picture!!!!!

 

[Petrarose]

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Morinen Why would fans go on that chat thing after you knew what to expect? Did you expect to change his mind? It is not as though this guy does not know that he is printing lies. He knows these are false, he knows he did not research, and he knows he wants to write a sensational book. The people we should try to work on is the public by debunking the myths in the book, and this will not be done by chatting with a fool.

This guy can't sound more ridiculous. Is he using the silly picture I saw on the internet with Michael's nose falling off. Is this guy for real? Lisa does not know what sex is and was having it way before age 24. I think Sullivan has some sexual fascination for Michael because his sex story is pure drivel.

Michael had no nose, no sex, no ability to take care of himself.

Respect do we have a structured plan about how to debunk this mess?

 

[la_cienega]

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I'm glad fans challenged him on the nose and Lisa Marie and Debbie, because it reveals he doesn't really know what he's talking about and changes stories for whoever.

He could've had some amazing source we didn't know about - but he clearly doesn't and is just making up the nose, the sexless, the Debbie thing as he goes along.

 

[maral]

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the thing is the man who had p**rn in his room didn't want to have sex
and the woman who had given birth to TWO children before marrying the guy didn't know what sex was

sounds logic to me.....NOT!

and the nose, if such photo existed it would be ALL over media

 

[MIST]

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Poor trees.

 

[Vici]

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Has the Jackson family released a statement about this book since it came out? If there was ever a time that they needed to say something, now is the time. This book is being talked about everywhere.

Both Janet and LaToya threatened to sue Vantity Fair for publishing excperts of the book where he mentions the Jackson women went to Carolwood the day MJ died and allegedly stole money from the house. Thats pretty much it.

 

[Rhilo]

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What we can do at this point is keep up with the negative reviews on Amazon, so no unknowing fan will buy it. Maybe we can compose a rebuttal letter with facts and sources and send off to the news sites/editors that are promoting the book? They will ignore it, more likely, but hopefully will read it and know they are wrong.

I can't believe the amount of coverage this book is getting, but on the plus side, even with all of that it's a flop.

 

[mdiegee210]

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Can the estate sue this liar for emotional distress to michael childrens? Can any thing be done.

 

[ivy]

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Can the estate sue this liar for emotional distress to michael childrens?

no plus emotional distress has to be real and provable.

 

[marebear]

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Michael is dead, leave him alone for gods sake. Murray killed Michael but all this crap slowly killed him too. I hope this book fails miserably. This vicious cycle never ends. Anytime things look positive or good for Michael people have to try to bring Michael down. It's upsetting and it feels worse now than before because Michael is gone. People say there is a reason why Michael passed away and that it was his time to go but I don't understand that at all. 3 years later i don't understand. They are still doing the same thing they did to him when he was alive. Why does someone have to be punished like this over and over again? Nobody ever says STOP enough already.

 

[Petrarose]

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Marebear^^ If Michael had a family that was saying STOP, being firm, and not selling stories to the tabloids themselves, then they would have been able to get something done. Rather, Michael has no one except his children who are too young. They label the fans who are outspoken as "crazy" so that the insecure fan would remain silent for fear of being labeled. It is all a vicious scheme and the way the media reacts. If they want to discredit fans or anyone who does not follow their program, they label them negatively to keep them quiet.

How long will we allow this injustice to continue. What is our campaign, if any?

 

[marebear]

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I just can't take it anymore.

 

[suzynyc]

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I just saw the commercial...this idiot is going to be a guest on Katie Couric's talk show tomorrow.

 

[morinen]

At one point Sullivan writes:

"The February 15, 2006, announcement that the California Court of
Appeal had reinstated Rowe’s custody rights made headlines across the country.
During the next several months, Debbie’s lawyers began to play rough, submitting
court filings that for the first time made public what everyone already suspected:
Michael Jackson was not biologically related to either Prince or Paris, despite his
claims that the children had been conceived “ the natural way.”

He references "court documents" as a source. Can this be disproved? Are court documents from that case made public?

 

[la_cienega]

At one point Sullivan writes:

"The February 15, 2006, announcement that the California Court of
Appeal had reinstated Rowe’s custody rights made headlines across the country.
During the next several months, Debbie’s lawyers began to play rough, submitting
court filings that for the first time made public what everyone already suspected:
Michael Jackson was not biologically related to either Prince or Paris, despite his
claims that the children had been conceived “ the natural way.”

He references "court documents" as a source. Can this be disproved? Are court documents from that case made public?

There aren't any.

The only things that surfaced was part of her confidentiality agreement where it stated she couldn't talk about him or his kids in public, about his supposed drug use, his "sexual habits" and the paternity of his kids, etc etc etc

It seemed to me to be both about protecting his kids, so Debbie couldn't say anything about him/them that could be misquoted, or couldn't retaliate about him in public by claiming anything just to hurt him. It also seemed to me like protecting herself, from letting some interview come in any getting her to say something they could use. But there are no court documents which reveal the kids are not his.

 

[HIStory]

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More details about Sullivan's HuffPost interview in an Amazon review. He's showing his true colors:

OF COURSE Amazon would rank it as a best seller ... it's about MICHAEL JACKSON. That is the ONLY reason it would get such a rating, because, if you look at the bibliography, you will see that almost all the entries are TABLOID-derived sources. Sadly, most people don't know who the people Sullivan spoke to are... If they did, they'd know that most were disgruntled former employees, ex-friends, people who were sued or countersued by Michael, people who were proven liars in a court of Law, people on the fringe of ever having really known MJ at all, etc.

Sullivan writes like a fiction writer... Fictional books are often books of the year... Not much thinking involved.

Just because Sullivan thinks MJ wasn't a child molester in 2005 doesn't make him sympathetic. The REASON he says MJ wasn't a molester is that he believes MJ was asexual... actually, his words were "pre-sexual"! He stated that he believed MJ died a VIRGIN!! I'm sure Lisa Marie Presley would beg to differ!! In an internet interview today with Marc Lamont Hill on HuffPostLIVE, Sullivan showed his true colors by saying that he believed Jordie Chandler may have been MJ's lover! Well, Sullivan, which is it? Did MJ have sex with a child or was he a virgin? You can't have it both ways!!

I am so sick of all these opportunists, coming on like they actually KNEW Michael Jackson! Sullivan writes and talks like he was part of his inner circle, when in actuality, he never even MET the man, and admitted today on air, that after Thriller, he wasn't even interested in his music! He called him a freak and bizarre and called his fans a derogatory name, suggesting we're all a bit "wacko"!

Well, THIS fan will NOT spend a dime of this book. He will get no richer from me on lies about Michael! Bad enough that I read it for free online!

 

[Kingofpop4ever3000]

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I'm surprised the media is supporting this guy. He has said he doesn't believe the allegations against Michael, which has always been a major stumbling block to people like Aphrodite Jones. From what I heard, she couldn't get any media time after she wrote a book saying that Michael was innocent. Why are they giving Sullivan all this press knowing that he claims to not believe Michael was guilty either?

 

[HIStory]

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I'm suprised the media is supporting this guy. He has said he doesn't believe the allegations against Michael, which has always been a major stumbling block to people like Aphrodite Jones. From what I heard, she couldn't get any media time after she wrote a book saying that Michael was innocent. Why are they giving Sullivan all this press knowing that he claims to not believe Michael was guilty either?

Sullivan is trying to play to both sides (very clumsily): says that he does not believe the allegations to get fans buy his book, but when you read it, he gives credit to Ray Chandler's claims unchallenged and he makes innuendo in that direction. And if we can believe the comment I quoted above from Amazon yesterday he said that Jordan might have been MJ's lover...

 

[144000]

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By the way, this is the land of the free. Michael was discriminated against. Authors and critics decided to make life hell for him, because he was expressing his freedoms to be himself, and they didn't like what they saw. Whether people are homosexual, heterosexual, or asexual is their choice. Whether people are celibate or not, virgin or not, is their choice. Bottom line, they can't use a person's life choice to equate them with being a child molester unless they are a child molester. None of the life choices other than child molester equate with child molester. There are a lot of homosexuals who have children who aren't accused of being child molesters. all these haters are members of all these groups. hate breeds hate. they shouldn't hate something they don't understand, or a life choice that they didn't make, but that Michael might have made. you get back what you put out. if they don't want to be hated, don't hate. asexual should be given the same protection from discrimination that homosexual and heterosexuals fight for...and all that are used to being discriminated against.

It's simple. Michael had exquisite business sense, ,and because of that, evil hateful people deemed him a child molester. They started by calling him money grubbing(because he was savvy in business and successful at it), so we know that's where these parasites were really coming from.

 

[Kingofpop4ever3000]

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Sullivan is trying to play to both sides (very clumsily)

Then I still don't understand why this guy is thought of as believable by anybody. According to what I've read on this board, he says he thinks Michael is innocent for the sake of Michael's fans (not to mention that he then insults fans in the media by calling fans crazy people who worship Michael like a god), then he tries to get in good with people who don't like Michael by repeating things from anti-Michael books. Seriously, as much as I don't agree with so many of the things people who don't like Michael say, at least they don't jump from side to side on what they think about him. I have to respect them for that. Because it's better than what I hear is going on surrounding this book, in my opinion.