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Why were the depositions done last minute?

I personally think it's because they never expected this to go trial and they hoped for a settlement. They were deposing experts during jury selection.

you are right, you don't buy an expert, you find one that agrees with your position. It is weird this expert was retained even after right of the bat said he thought it could be Demerol addiction. Either he says other stuff that Jacksons want or their strategy changed.
 
I personally think it's because they never expected this to go trial and they hoped for a settlement. They were deposing experts during jury selection.

you are right, you don't buy an expert, you find one that agrees with your position. It is weird this expert was retained even after right of the bat said he thought it could be Demerol addiction. Either he says other stuff that Jacksons want or their strategy changed.

Re/settlement--that makes perfect sense.

Your comment earlier about Panish making a lot of mistakes and then this continuous back-and-forth challenging the judge makes you wonder what's going on. Maybe he's burned out or is he just not up to the task?

I agree with Petrarose's point--the judge needs to use her judicial power to formally admonish him. Enough is enough.
 
Your comment earlier about Panish making a lot of mistakes and then this continuous back-and-forth challenging the judge makes you wonder what's going on. Maybe he's burned out or is he just not up to the task?

I think he lost the judge. As I said he's a good lawyer from a big firm with favorable verdicts with serious damages awarded so I can't understand this. we don't know if he'll be successful or not until a verdict but I personally see serious mistakes. ps: I'm not writing what I think those are because such posts of mine tends to attract attacks on me.
 
^^^i know but its not about that. i see ppl filled with so much hate against the jackson family that they cant even call out aeg and their ridicolous strategy and statements, because oh boy there have been MANYYY wrongs by aeg in this trial-

I agree AEG has had their share of outrageousness in statements, etc., but they are defending themselves--in playground parlance--the Jacksons started it. It's Michael's family--the people who are suppose to love & honor him--who have created this "opportunity" in the courtroom to bash Michael on BOTH sides. The family could have gone after restitution from the "real" killer, but he didn't have enough MONEY, so they went after a deep-pocketed corporation instead.

This is why some fans (myself included) are fed up with the Jackson Family--not only for all they put Michael through while he was alive, but for the lack of care shown his children, especially Paris, and for doing anything & everything (including trashing Michael's reputation) to get their hands on more MONEY.
 
I think he lost the judge. As I said he's a good lawyer from a big firm with favorable verdicts with serious damages awarded so I can't understand this. we don't know if he'll be successful or not until a verdict but I personally see serious mistakes. ps: I'm not writing what I think those are because such posts of mine tends to attract attacks on me.

I wonder if he's lost the jury, too. I read your post that they were "groaning" at comments he made last week. Not good.

And, re/your personal opinion--I appreciate your take on this trial--and I'm obviously not the only one. Frankly, I think it's a shame you (or anyone else) are attacked for those opinions, so I understand why you're not wanting to share them. Thanks for all you do for us.
 
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I agree AEG has had their share of outrageousness in statements, etc., but they are defending themselves--in playground parlance--the Jacksons started it. It's Michael's family--the people who are suppose to love & honor him--who have created this "opportunity" in the courtroom to bash Michael on BOTH sides. The family could have gone after restitution from the "real" killer, but he didn't have enough MONEY, so they went after a deep-pocketed corporation instead.

This is why some fans (myself included) are fed up with the Jackson Family--not only for all they put Michael through while he was alive, but for the lack of care shown his children, especially Paris, and for doing anything & everything (including trashing Michael's reputation) to get their hands on more MONEY.

Correct. It's because some of us KNEW all of this would happen and we expected it since the day this lawsuit was filed. It is why we were againts it in the first place. It is because Jacksons also KNEW this would happen, yet they allowed it to happen and pressed ahead with it. And for what? For money. This is why we are calling out the Jacksons.
 
I think he lost the judge. As I said he's a good lawyer from a big firm with favorable verdicts with serious damages awarded so I can't understand this. we don't know if he'll be successful or not until a verdict but I personally see serious mistakes. ps: I'm not writing what I think those are because such posts of mine tends to attract attacks on me.


I paid a visit to the Pannish, Boyle website last night and they have won cases and settlements in the billions. Pannish was lawyer of the year in 2012, I don't know much about the law but I am surprised
 
Correct. It's because some of us KNEW all of this would happen and we expected it since the day this lawsuit was filed. It is why we were againts it in the first place. It is because Jacksons also KNEW this would happen, yet they allowed it to happen and pressed ahead with it. And for what? For money. This is why we are calling out the Jacksons.

I agree--we knew it and they knew it. And, fans who want to defend them, go ahead. But, fans also have the right to call them out on their ****ery because we've seen it all, over many decades, we know the family history, and we know what drives them. We see the truth of what's going on here in that courtroom and it's not about "finding out what happened to my son." We already know the answer to that, Katherine: Murray overdosed him.
 
I paid a visit to the Pannish, Boyle website last night and they have won cases and settlements in the billions. Pannish was lawyer of the year in 2012, I don't know much about the law but I am surprised

we had discussed lawyers years back. both firms are good and successful. actually Putnam's firm specialty is in entertainment and not necessarily wrongful death. so I would have classified AEG at disadvantage here.

it's not about "finding out what happened to my son."

I don't get the logic of wanting to find out what happened to MJ but not even speaking with Prince and Paris to learn a single thing and filing this lawsuit with their names without even telling them.

If it was me I would be going around asking people who was around and knew stuff - which obviously first of all includes Price and Paris- to tell me what they know and then start a lawsuit.
 
Correct. It's because some of us KNEW all of this would happen and we expected it since the day this lawsuit was filed. It is why we were againts it in the first place. It is because Jacksons also KNEW this would happen, yet they allowed it to happen and pressed ahead with it. And for what? For money. This is why we are calling out the Jacksons.

I agree. Since we lost Michael I have had only 4 concerns:
1. Prince
2. Paris
3. Blanket
4. Michael's legacy for today and for all time in history

If anyone can explain how this lawsuit benefits any of the above I am willing to listen. (Michael's children and mother have enough money, he took care of that) Otherwise, it was a terrible decision that is harming all of the above. And the Jacksons are responsible.

All of the attention on this lawsuit has drained fan energy that should be directed at Conrad Murray and making sure that when he gets out (which will be soon) we boycott any attempts (media, etc.) of his to make a buck off of Michael. But we can't even focus on that because of this money grabbing scheme. And the Jacksons are responsible.
 
This was nothing but an extortion attempt. As much has I hate seeing Michael's medical records all over the place I am glad AEG did not settle
 
I don't get the logic of wanting to find out what happened to MJ but not even speaking with Prince and Paris to learn a single thing and filing this lawsuit with their names without even telling them.

If it was me I would be going around asking people who was around and knew stuff - which obviously first of all includes Price and Paris- to tell me what they know and then start a lawsuit.

I don't get it either. Wasn't Katherine present when the DA's office interviewed the kids for the criminal trial? Surely lots of questions were asked then and she heard those answers. I find it very hard to believe she didn't ask them questions privately, if she was so (rightly) concerned about finding out what happened. Like you, I would have been drilling down on anyone & everyone who knew anything--it's very much part of the grief process to know the details.

This was nothing but an extortion attempt. As much has I hate seeing Michael's medical records all over the place I am glad AEG did not settle

I agree. They thought AEG would fold, but they don't know Philip Anschutz and they underestimated his resolve. AEG does not feel they did anything wrong and that's why they didn't settle. I'm glad they stood up to the extortion attempt.
 
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I hate all of this. It makes me sick. On other threads here just hearing people say something nice about Michael makes me want to cry.
 
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CM's name is missing. Is he good doctor in Jackson's book?

I reckon given the way they have acted since michael died i would so
 
CM's name is missing. Is he good doctor in Jackson's book?

they were asking for doctors other than Murray. plus these experts are addiction experts so they do not evaluate Murray's giving Propofol, they were looking for doctors that contributed to Michael's dependency
 
IMO just the lengths they've gone to get as high damages as possible (which includes not going after Murray) shows what this is all about and it has nothing to do with finding the truth.
 
Michael died with murray's hand so its murray who should be questioned ..ughhh it just makes me so angry how the jacksons dont seem to give a crap bout michael :no: its dispicable
 
Bubs;3882642 said:
I don't know whether he was made aware of what is going on, but he was (I copied this from Radar)
issued a Public Letter of Reprimand by The Medical Board of California for engaging “in fraudulent medical practice based on prescriptions written for an international entertainer using a false/fictitious name.”

I think that case was about Janet. Then there was the thing Pari wrote in her twitter during granny-napping episode:
Paris Jackson is fuming that her uncles have allowed Metzger to treat her grandmother after he testified that her late father was a heavy drug user. something she took to Twitter to dispute.

“The same doctor that testified on behalf of dr. murray saying my father was a drug addict (a lie) is caring for my grandmother….just saying,” Paris wrote.

Maybe he was a good doc or maybe not, I don't know.

In Metzger's testimony in the CM trial, he talked about his meeting with MJ at Carolwood on April 16. He said MJ asked him for sleep meds--IV sleep meds. He was asked was propfol mentioned? And he said 'in my notes" I wrote IV sleep meds. Now he refused to give MJ the IV sleep meds and said he told MJ it wasn't a good idea but MJ said oral sleep meds didn't work.

Now you can say Metzger was hedging when he denied propofol was discussed specifically, but IMO he knew that this is what MJ was referring to and he also knew or had strong suspicions that MJ had been using profofol for sleep before (from other docs).

In this meeting between MJ and Metzger MJ shared his concerns about the physical demands of the tour.
 
They claim Michael could have been cured, so it's not really a paradox. You can believe it or not, but I don't see a paradox. Hence Drs schnoll pointing out Michael succeeded at times, and was free of medication in early 09 - which I have believed since we've had the info that came out for the Murray trial. Addiction to demerol in 09 was actually his defense. Then they brought in that sleep specialist saying Michael could have been treated for his insomnia- which I doubt.

Saying an addcit or dependant person can not recover is a bit harsh for me. I remember I asked Shafer in the Q&A (about benzos) , and he said it was possible.

And, as I said many times, opiates are the only solution to pain. So if those experts - both sides - take out the problems that created pain (accidents, burn, etc...) out of the equation, the picture is not complete. It's important to know why he was taking pain medication. I guess we will agree that after such burns and accidents, Michael was not faking his pain.

In the selections Ivy quoted (bullet points) one expert aid that in order to do rehab successfully there are certain conditions, such as having support and the commitment/desire to get 'clean'--the expert (can't recall who) said tht MJ needed a team behind him--a therapist, 12 step program, both individually and in a group, and so on.

I think you are not factoring in hopw hard it is to kick addiction or dependency--and the reason it is so hard is a person's brain chemistry actually changes while they are addicted or dependent. The neural pathways are forged under the addiction and all these have to be reset and this can take --literally--years. It also involves diet changes, exercise, a whole life change. Beating an addiction is not easy, esp. if it has become a habit over time (even if not 100% all the time but enough to form a pattern).

There are many youtube vids on addiction and the brain. It is a fascinating subject and very relevant not only for this case but for treatment of all the many people who develop various addictions.

Not saying MJ could not have done it--where there's a will there's a way, etc. But at that time in his life he was not able IMO to commit to living his life free of prescription meds, even though he was getting juice shakes, almond milk, and was a vegetarian and he obviously cared about being healthy, he still had so many other pressures, that at that time going into serious, committed rehab did not seem an option. Also Jackson lawyerds have never spelled out when he was going to do that or any proof that he was committed at the time frame they are talking about. I also agree with the xpert that the 93 rehab was temporary rather than a apermanent thing--once he left the UK there was no follow-up and he landed back in the midst of the Chandler nightmare and walked ight into the horror of the strip-search. You need a certain amt of calm in your life to focus on rehab and he did not have in in 93, 2003-05, or in 09.
 
Judge needs to stop telling Panish he keeps invading attorney-client privilege and start using her judicial authority.

Pminton I think the reasoning was that Michael did not have a reliable staff to do hiring and write up contracts; he did not have liquid cash to pay staff; AEG gave him an advance & since they had the manpower or structures in place to create contracts Michael told them who he wanted and they had the contracts written for Michael. They paid these people for Michel.

Sometimes I get the feeling that the jury might say that AEG hired Muarry.

Can the jury say that AEG hired muarry but it was not negligent because the artist requested someone who was already working with him, so that the working relationship was continuous?

I am glad she seems as if she is doing that when she threatened to stop the examination that Panish was (supposedly) doing. She really needs to get tough b/c he is getting away with way too much and it is hurting the trial and the fact that this is so long drawn out and unfocused is partly her fault IMO.

In fact, when people talk about how OJ got off and then they say that MJ got off but was really guilty--see--Judge ITO did not do a good job IMO and he was criticized for losing conrol of the trial and for being too fond of the celeb spotlight himself. Maybe the faults of the way Ito ran the OJ case comntributed to the fact that OJ ended up acquited?? Just a thought. It is interesting to me that Palazuelos is a friend of Ito's and she is also a weak, unfocused judge running a sloppy courtroom and the case is not moving along smoothly--it is all over the place and a huge mess.

On the other hand, these exchanges where she does more to rein in Panish give me some hope--but it is rather late since the trial has gone on since May.
 
Well that contract is the reason why her clients are on trial... So if they lose, her work will not have been so effcicient..

Bouee, Jorrie did what her client, AEG, instructed her to do. If AEG are unsuccessful with this trial, they will be held liable and they only have themselves to blame. Jorrie’s testimony did not help the defense; she actually made it clearer that AEG allegedly and negligently - the 10 minute, feeble Google search that Jorrie did was not a sufficient background check - hired this doctor. The fact that AEG could fire the doctor without Michael’s approval is utterly horrific!

I must say there is much suspicion surrounding the use of Tohme to approve the $35M payout to AEG by the estate despite Michael firing him. Will be interesting to hear Jorrie explain this more on Friday.
 
This guy was saying what the Jacksons wanted to hear at first they were the ones calling Michael an addict. They were the ones who said he was in denial they were the ones saying they tried to help but you can lead a horse to water nonsense. I wonder what happend, why all of the sudden is this not true?

Caught in their own web of lies and deception. LOL. All I can say is it serves them right.
 
In the selections Ivy quoted (bullet points) one expert aid that in order to do rehab successfully there are certain conditions, such as having support and the commitment/desire to get 'clean'--the expert (can't recall who) said tht MJ needed a team behind him--a therapist, 12 step program, both individually and in a group, and so on.

I think you are not factoring in hopw hard it is to kick addiction or dependency--and the reason it is so hard is a person's brain chemistry actually changes while they are addicted or dependent. The neural pathways are forged under the addiction and all these have to be reset and this can take --literally--years. It also involves diet changes, exercise, a whole life change. Beating an addiction is not easy, esp. if it has become a habit over time (even if not 100% all the time but enough to form a pattern).

There are many youtube vids on addiction and the brain. It is a fascinating subject and very relevant not only for this case but for treatment of all the many people who develop various addictions.

Not saying MJ could not have done it--where there's a will there's a way, etc. But at that time in his life he was not able IMO to commit to living his life free of prescription meds, even though he was getting juice shakes, almond milk, and was a vegetarian and he obviously cared about being healthy, he still had so many other pressures, that at that time going into serious, committed rehab did not seem an option. Also Jackson lawyerds have never spelled out when he was going to do that or any proof that he was committed at the time frame they are talking about. I also agree with the xpert that the 93 rehab was temporary rather than a apermanent thing--once he left the UK there was no follow-up and he landed back in the midst of the Chandler nightmare and walked ight into the horror of the strip-search. You need a certain amt of calm in your life to focus on rehab and he did not have in in 93, 2003-05, or in 09.

My post was an answer to other posts that were saying that the Jacksons' case was not logical, I was just saying they have a logic, based on the fact that Michael could have been cured of his addction/dependency (which I believe becasue he suceeded for long period of times) and his insomnia (I would hope so, but , especially when you read what Metzger had tried, I'm really not convinced, unfortunately).

Addiction is an interesting subject though. I believe one of the strongest one is nicotine, one of the hardest to get rid of. I said before I worked in a hopsital, a long long time ago, and some of the patients were heroin addicts. Heroin comes from opium, it's more or less the same kind of substance as pain medication, taken from opium too. I was shocked at the time, because most of them were sucessfully detoxed, but most of them would relapse. Out of all the patients I have seen , maybe over a hundred, only a handful made it. A lot of them had aids, so no real motivation, because at the time, it was a certain death in 2 years, you couldn't do anything about it. So these ones had no real motivation. For the others, and that's what shocked me, the problem was mostly social : heroin is illegal and extremely expensive. They would spend an average salary in 3-4 days. So they started stealing - and could get violent when they are in withdrawal, so very often they were rejected by their families and friends. Then those who worked lost their jobs, and then their homes. Over here at the time, that was the beginning of the end, it was hard to "recover" socially when you got that low. So we would spend a lot of public money on detox and rehab, usually successfully, and always done in a different part of the country so they would be away from the dealers (who didn't really like losing clients, they went after them, including inside the hospital, to get them to relapse). Then they would get out of rehab, in a town where they had nothing, knew no one, and that's where the public money would stop, because they were cured. If at the time they succeded in starting a new life there, they would be OK, if they did not- most cases- they would come back to their original place and relapse, and we would do it all over again after a few months/weeks. Some patients had "X detox programs" on their medical files, the doctors didn't bother counting them, it was useless. Some countries started programs that were much more intelligent than ours (I think it was the UK) , by giving the drug for free, and taking dealers and money problems out of the equation. They had heroin addicts who could keep their homes, their money , sometimes even their jobs, were kept away from dealers, and were sucessfully detoxed when they decided to, with a much lesser HIV rate. Nobody wants to be an addict, so they eventually had much less adicts than we had, they were successfully cured and did not relapse. Same drug, same problem, different outcome.

What I mean is that it's not only the drug itself. If you take Michael's case, the drugs were originally prescribed to deal with pain- And that's the problem, IMO, because strong pain meds are opioids. For example here, you can very easily be presprcibed a mix of paracetamol-codein, well codein is an opioid. In this case in a very small dose, but you do get tolerant to it if you take it long enough. As long as scientists have not found another molecule that works efficiently with pain, people with pain issues will have to deal with opioids, and often with dependency : if you can't cure the problem that causes pain, you can't really solve the problem, so all a doctor can do will be try to find the right thing that works for you, with a less opioids as possible, to minimise depedance. But dependance will very likely be there. So the problem is, where do you draw the line between abusing drugs or taking it because you have to ?.
That's what Soundmind said : how bad was Michael's problem ? When they give examples of Michael going to a hopital for shots of demerol because of a foot injury, is he acting like a drug addict ? No, of course not. What else could the doctors have given him ? In his case, with a high tolerance, it will be a rather big dose of opioids, nothing else. So again, very hard to draw the line, and that's probably why we have experts contradicting each other. IMO, it was not possible for him to be certain to be opiates free for the rest of his life : another accident or health problem that creates pain will have him take opiates, because there's nothing else. Is that being addicted ? Is that a relapse ? No, not to me. The "addiction" problem is solved when you can manage it, take it only when you really need it, it's a tricky balance to maintain.
Add to that that some doctors- like Klein-who apparently did not help giving demerol for cosmetic procedures.
I believe he was successful because he was free of it for many years, so yes, in theory, he could have made it. Now if experts look for the slightest dose of opiates - again the hopistal and foot injury example- ignoring the reason why it was given, well they will call him and addict.
 
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- Metzger heard concerns about Michael taking too much pain medicine from Karen, Debbie, Klein and Hoefflin, Michael never told him what he was doing
- Metzger once talked with Michael saying getting A from Dr. A and getting B from Dr. B can hurt him. He told Michael to minimize pain medicine he was taking for any surgery.
- at least 2-3 times Debbie told him her concerns saying Michael was getting medicines for minor procedures when no one else does.
- they tried to replace Demerol with another agent. Metzger cannot remember what but it could placebo, Toradol or Talwin
- Metzger says Klein felt stuck. He needed to do these surgeries on Michael and he had a low pain threshold so he needed to give Demerol. Klein would sometimes say to Metzger "I wish I could give him something else"
- Metzger heard from Klein that he was trying to convince Michael to take less pain medicines
note : most of the above seems to be 1993.

- Gordon is a doctor that Michael went to get fillers in his face before TII. Murray called Dr. Gordon for the procedure. After the procedure Gordon did not provide any post care or pain medications because Murray told him he was Michael's personal doctor and he was taking care of Michael's day to day needs.

This whole thing is iffy to me. Metzger says he heard people (including Klein and Hoefflin) saying that MJ is taking too much of pain meds. Figuratively speaking, AK & H left hands were giving those meds to MJ, and right hand says MJ is taking too much?
Seems to me that all doctors are putting the blame on MJ, but don't see their own part of the problem.
Metzger is is kind of two face to me. In one hand, he seems to be siding with Klein, but he testified that Debbie told him that MJ was getting meds for minor procedures. Who was doing those minor procedures and giving meds - Klein.
Then he goes on to say that Klein felt stuck and told him that he couldn't give anything else except Demerol?
Certainly there are tons of other meds available other than Demerol?
Seriously, Klein told MJ to take less pain meds! I wonder if it never entered in his mind to stop giving them? Or was he worried that MJ would cut him out and he wanted to stay with MJ's circle at any cost, so he kept giving them?

About doc Gordon. Didn't CM say in his LAPD interview that MJ didn't tell him about other doctors? Seems to me that he was aware of at least one of them.
 
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what to expect as deposition video
- randy jackson
- joseph marcus (neverland manager) - motion to exclude request by Jacksons
- dr. stephen gordon

I wonder what NL manager has to say? He was in NL during 2001-2005, so he could possibly testify how he observed MJ coping that time? Steven Gordon was doc who did some cosmetic stuff for MJ prior to TII.
Randy in no doubt would be talking s..t and helping AEG with their case.

The only thing is during his deposition Marcus asked for a lawyer and then changed his mind saying he would do his deposition but he would not answer some questions. He did not answer questions about Tohme.

Was he still manager in NL when Tohme came to picture?

In reference to speculation concerning a world tour after O2 London and then 4 more tours after that, why don't people just listen to Michael? In 2002 talked about how he feels about touring. He was not ambiguous, he didn't beat around the bush, he made it very clear:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpchM9BWgQ0

Because what MJ though or said, has no room in this trial. Plaintiffs are saying he would have toured up until age or 65, even thou MJ said he goes through hell while touring, defense says there was a possibility that he wouldn't have completed TII.
Defence cannot show that clip to support their case, as there were talks possible world tour after TII. Both sides are making Michael to appear the way that supports their own agenda, and real Michael has left the building (so to speak).

Btw, that clip makes me laugh everytime, so cute:)
 
Petrarose;3883234 said:
I think the reasoning was that Michael did not have a reliable staff to do hiring and write up contracts; he did not have liquid cash to pay staff; AEG gave him an advance & since they had the manpower or structures in place to create contracts Michael told them who he wanted and they had the contracts written for Michael. They paid these people for Michel.

That is my belief too.

I often ask myself what would Mike say if he was asked who hired CM, and I keep getting the same answer.



pminton;3883237 said:
Yes AEG did spend time on that their want to show this jury Michael had this big dark secert with drugs and all of the doctors their brought to the stand to prove that. You are right their should have showing that their knew nothing about Michael's addict to drugs. AEG has said along their didn't know Michael has a drugs problem will imo that is not true their knew alots. And you are so right on that in the bold.

They are not quite there yet. Putnam said in his opening statement:
"Putnam says AEG was an outsider as everyone else, they didn’t know what happened between Michael and his doctors, and they didn’t make Michael’s medical decisions. Putnam says evidence will show that there’s no way that they could have known. He says it’s because of nature of Propofol. He says it’s not a drug that you can look to people and say oh I think they must be on something. Putnam says the jury will hear people describe Propofol as a light switch, something you turn on and off. He says unless you see it happening, you can’t see someone later in the day and say they must have had Propofol earlier. Putnam says as Michael was not doing this when he was out with people, AEG had no way to see or know it."

So far defense has been presenting their evidence of MJ medical condition and other things, but they will get to AEG staff testimonies and what they knew about it prior 06/25/2009.
 
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Justthefacts;3883272 said:
This was nothing but an extortion attempt. As much has I hate seeing Michael's medical records all over the place I am glad AEG did not settle

I absolutely agree with you.

Food for the thought:
"Putnam says before Murray was convicted Katherine Jackson sued AEG on behalf of herself and Michael’s kids."

KJ sued AEG before CM was convicted. What if the jury had found him not guilty?
There was a possibility that CM could had walked out from that trial totally free man.

Cold hard fact is that family was willing to let CM walk free with no punishement at all, as he wasn't even named to this lawsuit.
Money is that makes the family go around.
 
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"She never spoke to Michael Jackson, she doesn't know. But we know that, at least based on the evidence, AEG did hire Dr. Murray. And the contract she negotiated was never sent to any representatives of Michael Jackson," said Jackson attorney Brian Panish.

What Panish is on about? Based on what evidence? I cannot think of any reason why would contract would be sent to Michael's rep. It wasn't like MJ was very forthcoming what is the reason for CM and I seriously doubt that he wanted to run that agreement through his people. Or if he did wanted his people to see it, could he not just pass his own copy to his people to read it and tell him whether it was ok to sign?

Of course the agreement and contract had to be sent to MJs rep. Thats how professionals do. You send it to all parties, including his reps. His people had to look it through and see what it was all about and if there were any disadvantages to MJ, they had to change it. Thats whats expected.
 
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