Must they call him a trainwreck??how lame is MTV. wow
It was TMF who called him that.
But I suppose it's a channel that is owned by MTV right?
Hm. A trainwreck that helped
build and
popularize that very network. :smilerolleyes:
a VMA year to think of ... 2002
for me, that evenings events would have been a deal breaker for the rest of my life...Michael on the other hand, is a bit more gracious and forgiving.
When the name Michael Jackson and the station MTV are spoke together, all I picture is the 2002 VMAs. The lie they perpetrated and the spin they put on the events of the evening ... it makes my forehead in need of botox. :mat:
I never saw the 2002 VMA awards or looked up any clips. I've seen glimpses & heard about the MJ incident though. MTV & Jack Black (?) made fun of MJ and the "mistaken" award, right? I just remember the media spinning it as MJ's big 'OOPS!' :glare:.
Pretty sure they won't dupe him again. IF Michael goes, he is pretty much the only massive name they would have, so they are bound to treat him like royalty. IMO It would be a good move for him to go and just casually present an award, would be a nice way for him to be seen in a positive light before HMH gets released.
True that, true that.
you are right about the teens you see...
but...at the same time...how do you explain the teens that are MJ fans?
MJ is always dissed by mtv, so, why are there so many teen MJ fans?
obviously there is a school of teens that think differently from the teens that say they can't live without mtv. or there are teens who cannot live without mtv, but still are biig MJ fans. how do we explain that?
Are there a lot of teen fans? It'd be wonderful if there were, but I don't see very many. Granted, I'm no longer a teen but if anything I saw younger kids picking up T25 when it came out rather than teens (well, in a different country). The reach of MJ that I see with most teens now are in stupid comments like '(singing along to Please Don't Stop the Music)
"Ma Ma Se Ma Ma Sa Ma Ma Coo Sa!" (and then upon hearing Akon & MJ's WBSS remix) "Didn't they like copy
Rihanna?" (In whose song you can even hear Michael!!! :ranting)
If MTV still has any clout, it's scary to think of. How much influence can (or
should) a network have with shows like
The Hills playing all the time? *Shudders* People in my age group caught onto MTV while it was still playing some videos more frequently and was kinda cool but waning. It's the MTV of my brother's generation that is the coveted one. When they still had abstract, zany animated commercials and you wouldn't have to come home late from an outing to just happen to catch that rare unscheduled hour of videos at 4 in the morning. When MTV actually meant something in a political election. That MTV is long gone and unlikely to come back. This link seems to hit the mark:
http://defamer.com/5039774/7-mtv+defining-stars-who-wouldnt-be-allowed-on-mtv-anymore
And I'm kinda inclined to think that MJ might be appropriate for that list too. Kinda. Not only for the media treatment of him & his image nowadays, but where can younger kids & teens even see MJ's
work on TV anymore? Maybe on VH1 Classic, but who even gets that channel? With the advent of YouTube, I'm not sure it matters but you generally have to be
looking for an MJ video to come across the goldmine of MJ videos that are on that site.
Anyways, that being said, even if MTV royally sucks now I can definitely see it being a good move for MJ to make an apperance at those bloody VMAs (
how is MTV even qualified to judge anymore? :wtf
- especially if 'Hold My Hand' comes out shortly after, as summercrane said. And who are we kidding? Wouldn't us fans
love it if he showed up somewhere publically & officially this year? I'd be happy just to see him on a stage! (And if the rumor's true, with Janet no less!
) We can say good riddance to the network all we want, but for some reason it still remains a valuable tool and resouce for the record industry. Even as we move into a completely digital age, perhaps the saving grace of the MTV network is that they still have VMAs. It does still give people something to talk about the next day, is music-related (mostly), and... most people just end up YouTubing the good parts the next day anyways :lol:. That's what I do
. Most people do with awards shows these days, I think.
Regardless, it is Michael we're talking about here. And an actual, set appearance can sometimes be a toss up in the air, let alone a rumored one. MTV's been tooting the same horn with big names for years too, so in all likeliness it's probably not gonna happen.... :fortuneteller:.