Monster - The Great Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

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Monster has been mixed about and auto tuned. I think a lot of the songs on the album weren't finished so they did what they could with what they had.
 
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Monster has been mixed about and auto tuned. I think a lot of the songs on the album weren't finished so they did what they could with what they had.

I don't think that the issue is autotuning or mixing. The debate is whose lead vocals are on the track. Even if Michael was alive, it would have been mixed and maybe a bit autotuned to give a trendy sound. What is wrong here, is that some of the fans (including me) don't recognize Michael's voice, accent, intonation, husk, etc. We hear another person, not Michael.
 
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Logic would deduce that if Monster and Breaking News are Michael, this would have to be too.






Note the vibrato, and just general sound... also note the "Ohhh" at 3:14...
 
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The problem in here is that people are not being respectful and not reading what I have been saying.

I have analyzed these songs for weeks and weeks. Played them in the car stereo, personal boom box, headphones, computer, etc. The reality is that 80% of the people in this forum have changed their mind at some point or another. I have always said that I believe these songs are Michael Jackson. However I have also said many times that it's likely they got someone to fill in certain parts that Michael never finished.

I was highlighting that one verse in Monster to give an example.

Regarding my source, he did tell me that parts of the song contained other vocals and I told you all that here the night after Breaking News came out. He later clarified to me that these were background vocals. My source has NEVER said the lead singer is someone other than Michael Jackson. What I think and what I hear from Sony are two completely different things. My opinion has changed slightly regarding the songs because after me really putting lots of time into vocal comparisons, etc I now believe that these are demos that MJ never had the time to finish and certain parts had to be filled in.

But let's not get confused here, of course I support Monster being a single. It's an amazing song and would fit in very well with the current music scene. It's also the most popular song off the album not including Hold My Hand. I do think that Sony might be holding back from releasing it in fear of another backlash from the Jackson family.

Please in the future actually read what I post instead of listening to others interpretations of what I have said. It becomes a game of broken telephone and creates a lot of nonsense over nothing. I'd also appreciate if everyone used some more respect when addressing their opinions over the songs. There is no 100% fact regardless of what anyone says. We are all just expressing our thoughts, so do it in a respectful manner.
my source, my source....hey, not need source to hear that everything is fake in this song!!!
 
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Is it wrong that I like some Malachi songs? haha
 
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Logic would deduce that if Monster and Breaking News are Michael, this would have to be too.






Note the vibrato, and just general sound... also note the "Ohhh" at 3:14...



can i ask what info u have on that track? i really really like it ( even tough it aint mj...or is it ? ) its the kinda music i write
 
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I realy thought this was a Michael Jackson forum. Why everytime that i visit this site i have the feeling that it has became a Malachi site. Two weeks ago i didn't know the dude and now he is the only one that i am learning and hearing about. Please, if you want to talk about that guy, create a new forum dedicated to him. Now, if you have a problem with the songs don't listen to them or do something in order the truth to be revieled.But will all stop promoting that guy. I want to hear about MICHAEL and not about this guy that i don't give a damn about. Jesus already!!!
 
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No, it's just weird....:lol:

There have been a few songs that have come out in which people have claimed they are MJ that I have actually liked. This is my favourite!




 
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"Critical"...o_O another Jason song! SMH It is a nice song as well! But, no MJ!

Best way to describe Jason songs are POWERLESS they go nowhere and they stay FLAT throughout!
 
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There have been a few songs that have come out in which people have claimed they are MJ that I have actually liked. This is my favourite!

hahaha...That's pretty good, actually! :lol: :ninja:
 
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"Critical"...o_O another Jason song! SMH It is a nice song as well! But, no MJ!

Best way to describe Jason songs are POWERLESS they go nowhere and they stay FLAT throughout!

That's exactly it...flat and powerless...This reminds me of how great Michael is at making the song go somewhere..He takes it to another level..My boyfriend was listening to Beat It the other day, and he says he especially likes Michael's vocals after the guitar solo...he was like...'he just kicks into overgear after that...you hear a lot of other rock songs, and the singer just lets it ride out after a guitar solo, but not Michael...that's what's so amazing about him, he just pushes it and hammers it hard throughout the whole song...' ..

All the Cascio songs lack this....And, with Monster, you'd want that powerful kick...and it's not there...

(sorry for the double post)
 
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Logic would deduce that if Monster and Breaking News are Michael, this would have to be too.






Note the vibrato, and just general sound... also note the "Ohhh" at 3:14...


I'm really reaching to hear the similarities on these 3 songs, and most Malachi songs. Other than vibrato, there's a blatant difference in vocals on songs like KYHU, even Breaking News for that matter. People say, "well they've been pitched to sound like Michael", but the reality of it is, that argument works both ways, and many times using the claim to support the songs gets dismissed. But that's a whole different subject, like I said, personally, I have to struggle to hear any other similarities in vocals, other than the vibrato.
 
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A bit off topic, but do you also guys hear that quiet little 'Why You Wanna Trip On Me' sample around 2:32? :p

hmm, you mean that "don't!" Well in the leaked version it comes in later, after the "oooh" and just before the bridge starts. In the final version that sample is earlier from when the guy starts singing "oooh" so it's barely audible?
 
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Monster has been mixed about and auto tuned. I think a lot of the songs on the album weren't finished so they did what they could with what they had.
Please enligthen me on what parts in Monster that has been autotuned.
 
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Logic would deduce that if Monster and Breaking News are Michael, this would have to be too.






Note the vibrato, and just general sound... also note the "Ohhh" at 3:14...

This does not sound like the Cascio songs at all. Not at all. It's way more plausibly Michael that it is this Jason person. I can't believe he is getting this much attention over here over so little similiraties. Also, Jason has said he has nothing to do with this project. Why do some of you keep pushing him into the Cascio tracks regardless?
 
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Where did he say he has nothing to do with this project? On the FAKE twitter?...

And his song Critical, isn't a song he really tries to sound that much like Michael. He mixes between his real voice and sounding like Michael.
 
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^ I think this http://twitter.com/Jason_Malachi is his real twitter. He talks about the other fake twitter in here and he does nothing but promote his own stuff. He does mention it's not him on the Cascio songs (tweet from a while ago) in response to an MJ fan.
 
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How confusing. Who takes the effort to create a twitter account for an unknown YouTube artist?
 
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Someone who doesn't want people to think it's Jason? I don't know.

Anyway.... MONSTAH, MONSTAH, MONSTAH.
 
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the vibrato is annoying on the songs, not natural at all, which is the first sign something is not right. Not completely sure about these tracks. Keep ur head up and breaking news I cant even listen to.
 
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^ I think this http://twitter.com/Jason_Malachi is his real twitter. He talks about the other fake twitter in here and he does nothing but promote his own stuff. He does mention it's not him on the Cascio songs (tweet from a while ago) in response to an MJ fan.

Yeah thats the fake one, so he never actually said it wasnt him on the Cascio songs. Even if he did, why would we believe him?
 
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ONLY thing he has said about The Cascio tracks is that he can't confirm or deny anything at this point when aksed if he was the singer on the tracks.
 
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ONLY thing he has said about The Cascio tracks is that he can't confirm or deny anything at this point when aksed if he was the singer on the tracks.

pentum, your video has been deleted

could u put it again somewhere ?
 
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ONLY thing he has said about The Cascio tracks is that he can't confirm or deny anything at this point when aksed if he was the singer on the tracks.

He might like the sudden attention for his persona a lot, and may want to stretch these fifteen minutes of little fame.
 
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He has had his "little fame" for years. So many people always thought it was Michael on his older songs, and even thought Jason was Michael. I personally, don't think this has nothing to do with Jason wanting his fame.

Edit: And WTF? The video I posted deleted after I posted it here - it had been online for days.
 
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