MJ Estate Sues Howard Mann and business partner Henry Vaccaro - Settlement reached

Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

Well, if others know that someone is in her ear, her children should know too

her children are in her ear, no one but them. 3T are no innocent too. 17 months after his death, the paid interviews, the gossip everything cooled down, no income from the estate, the Jacksons are BROKE like never again ad with no hope, with no MJ to help and only $ 7.000 a month to be divided between a tribe of 50 individuals , not only MJ's siblings but also the nephews and nieces. While Blankito ALONE worth already at least AT LEAST $ 500 MILLIONS , all of them adult men and women are BROKE , I can imagine what's going on in their heads . lol
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

Guys, seriously I am concerned by her last statements. Is everything all right with her health? Her statements do not seem the type of thing she would say if she was in her right mind--unless the source of these statements is questionable.

Well...truth be told. I have been doing my part and helping her since MJ died. I have not purchased any of the fuckeries they've been selling.

So I think those that couldn't wait to buy that coffee table book & put money in Howard Mann's pocket (feeding the beast) have lots of explaining to do.

Many of us warned people on this board against buying it...we saw that mess coming ages ago.
My hands are clean...
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

Well, if others know that someone is in her ear, her children should know too. They need to tweet one of the 3Ts to speak to grandma. I recall they did not like it when fans talked about grandma, so maybe someone should tweet him to have a chat with her for her own good.

I second the motion, come I know we are all a bit tick off by what KJ is doing but I know a war is going to happen and guess who is going to get hurt? MJ legacy we need to to compose a letter and have it sand by hand to Katherine explaining to her why the estate is not working agains her and she need to use her hand bag and beat the crop out of Howard Mann, he his bad news for her.
I can feel mj estate are not playing they are going for Mann hidding him behind your skirt is not going to help him he did mj and even you and mj 3 ppp wrong, let them have him.
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

Well...truth be told. I have been doing my part and helping her since MJ died. I have not purchased any of the fuckeries they've been selling.

So I think those that couldn't wait to buy that coffee table book & put money in Howard Mann's pocket (feeding the beast) have lots of explaining to do.

Many of us warned people on this board against buying it...we saw that mess coming ages ago.
My hands are clean...


Your post made me smile, especially the first paragraph. :)
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

I second the motion, come I know we are all a bit tick off by what KJ is doing but I know a war is going to happen and guess who is going to get hurt? MJ legacy we need to to compose a letter and have it sand by hand to Katherine explaining to her why the estate is not working agains her and she need to use her hand bag and beat the crop out of Howard Mann, he his bad news for her.
I can feel mj estate are not playing they are going for Mann hidding him behind your skirt is not going to help him he did mj and even you and mj 3 ppp wrong, let them have him.
There's a group caring about that also I've found... maybe you'd like to contact them, join them... this is their blog: http://mjanwatch.wordpress.com/2010/11/07/michael-jackson-legacy-pledge/
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

her children are in her ear, no one but them. 3T are no innocent too. 17 months after his death, the paid interviews, the gossip everything cooled down, no income from the estate, the Jacksons are BROKE like never again ad with no hope, with no MJ to help and only $ 7.000 a month to be divided between a tribe of 50 individuals , not only MJ's siblings but also the nephews and nieces. While Blankito ALONE worth already at least AT LEAST $ 500 MILLIONS , all of them adult men and women are BROKE , I can imagine what's going on in their heads . lol



I agree Soundmind.. I bet Steven Randall is the main one in her hear.. Katherine had been using Mike's generous allowance for years to take care of that entire family. Her grown ass kids, her grandchildren and others.. Mike is gone, the gravy train has ended. She should suggest her other children get real jobs or they need to hit up auntie Janet for some cash.
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

I'm more curious about Adam Streisand , where is he? I mean we know that Katherine - Mann contract has been signed without a lawyer. Is she doing deals , giving out statements without the guidance of a lawyer? That's what I wonder.

According to this page he still represents Katherine http://www.loeb.com/adam_streisand/

maybe he only reps her on estate issues. this is her own private biz deal

Or he could had just given up, took his paycheck, and shut up, since no one in that family seems to listen to him. You can only argue with a brick wall for so long.

Last year when she signed the deal with Mann, Streisnad said he was kept in the dark. He only represents Katherine on estate matters, Katherine is her own rep when it comes to Mann.

I realize that Streisand is an estate lawyer (and probably this new lawsuit doesn't fall into his area of specialty) but I also see some confusion / misinformation on Katherine's parts about how an estate works as well.

For example in the recent interview she says "they say to me you have to ask the estate get the permission" and then we have also seen the "MJ belts agreement" in which Katherine and Joe thought they can licence Michael's image and likeliness as they are the parents of Michael. In other words they don't really seem like they understand what an estate is and how it works.

As for the Mann - there was an interview with Katherine some time back in which she says "what estate is giving her is not enough and her business deal with Mann is based on her need for money".

Now let's talk about how an allowance is determined

You go to court and say I have this and that expenses and the court says okay here's that amount as your allowance.

If the allowance isn't enough to cover your expenses you can go to court and say "well it's not enough I also have this and that new expenses" and the court will say "okay let's increase it then".

Here we need to ask that "if the money Katherine gets from the Estate isn't enough why we haven't seen a request for allowance increase?"

It's been done for the MJ's kids allowance and Streisand is no dummy so why no request of allowance increase? and I guess you all know the answer : it's because the "need of money" Katherine is talking about isn't for her expenses but probably for other Jackson's expenses therefore she have no basis to make an increase request. And that's not something the estate has to pay for according to the will so they shouldn't be blamed for it.

And this is what I meant by "where's Adam Streisand?"

I know a lot of people is boycotting TMZ so this is what was asked and answered at TMZ Live today

Question : If Katherine Jackson keeps making accusations about the Estate administrators can they get an injunction against her to stop her from talking?

Harvey : No. It's free speech. She can say whatever she wants to say. The issue is "Is she doing the right thing by ragging on the Estate which gives her $26K per month in cash?" They paid her mortgage, they paid for cars, chefs, vacations and remodeling and whole things.

Charles : It's odd that she continues to poke them.

Harvey : Somebody is in her ear I'm telling you.

Well, if others know that someone is in her ear, her children should know too. They need to tweet one of the 3Ts to speak to grandma. I recall they did not like it when fans talked about grandma, so maybe someone should tweet him to have a chat with her for her own good.

I don't think Jackson's will be of any help due to their stand against the estate.

First of all I think Howard Mann is the one that's in her ear in this case. and it seems like Mann does stuff that the family isn't aware of (as we can see from Randy's and Taj's tweets).

However it's also common knowledge that some family members are against the estate executors for one reason or another.

In short to me it looks like nobody sits down and say "hey you are shady, Michael didn't like you, he sued you in the past". On the contrary they seem to say "forget the past, if you are against the estate then you are my new best friend".

There's an idiom that goes "a drowning man will clutch at a straw". In my home country it's modified to say "a drowning man will clutch at a snake" (snake meaning enemies/bad/shady people).
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

Well...truth be told. I have been doing my part and helping her since MJ died. I have not purchased any of the fuckeries they've been selling.

So I think those that couldn't wait to buy that coffee table book & put money in Howard Mann's pocket (feeding the beast) have lots of explaining to do.

Many of us warned people on this board against buying it...we saw that mess coming ages ago.
My hands are clean...
great post..:clapping::clapping:...I too have done my part as well...:D
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

After seeing Reebie Jackson on the View, today, I'm more certain than ever that "The Jacksons" deeply resent the fact that
Michael Jackson left his own children: Prince, Paris, and Blanket his
fortune.

Please pray everyday for the well-being of Michael's children, and if
the time ever comes when you can personally be of assistance to them please do so. :angel:
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

Well...truth be told. I have been doing my part and helping her since MJ died. I have not purchased any of the fuckeries they've been selling.

So I think those that couldn't wait to buy that coffee table book & put money in Howard Mann's pocket (feeding the beast) have lots of explaining to do.

Many of us warned people on this board against buying it...we saw that mess coming ages ago.
My hands are clean...

It's kind of funny since her book is a freaking rip off to boat.

Her book is really nothing more than a condense version of her first book, "My Family". There are lines that are word by word the same when jetzi had the book posted. Even the supposed rare pictures are not that rare and can be found for free on most sites.

It would be better if she simply rerelease her first book, like the estate did for Moonwalk. It's a good book, despite it being very sugarcoated.
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

After seeing Reebie Jackson on the View, today, I'm more certain than ever that "The Jacksons" deeply resent the fact that
Michael Jackson left his own children: Prince, Paris, and Blanket his
fortune.

Please pray everyday for the well-being of Michael's children, and if
the time ever comes when you can personally be of assistance to them please do so. :angel:
really???...what did she say?....I didn't see it..:(...was she THAT terrible?
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

Thanks, Mechi, for the link!
Nothing to thank me for.
It's better we unite somewhere... than everybody building their own group... we have to gather strength in appearing united.
And their should be done something to make ppl aware of what's going on with this Mann guy and what Katherine got herself into...

http://mjanwatch.wordpress.com/2010/11/07/michael-jackson-legacy-pledge/

look at it, build your own opinion... I really think it's worth the time for sure.
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

After seeing Reebie Jackson on the View, today, I'm more certain than ever that "The Jacksons" deeply resent the fact that
Michael Jackson left his own children: Prince, Paris, and Blanket his
fortune.

Please pray everyday for the well-being of Michael's children, and if
the time ever comes when you can personally be of assistance to them please do so. :angel:

what did Rebbie say that gives you this impression?
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

I think everyone just need to leave Mrs.Kathrine alone. I think at this point, the Jacksons need to keep thier business out of the news in doing interviews and fight what they need to fight in court. I am not going to judge her because my family is in court battle over my father estate against his widow who is trying to cheat my siblings out of money that we learned that she fraud. This is why I say, if you are not in the mix, you do not know what the truth is when it comes to these issues. Most of the views are coming from a "bias" place; in order words, if you like the Jackson, you think one way regardless if it is true or not; and if you dislike the Jackson, you are thinking one way regardless if that news is true or not.
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

The will says that, from now on, the estate executors will be in charge

of everything having to do with Michael's business, including his image,

and that he doesn't want anybody else to take part on that. Right?



.....and which part of that is the one Joseph and Katherine are supposed

to be unable to understand? I think they're both intelligent enough to understand

concepts more complicated than that, and that they do. Wasn't that the

reason why they wanted to go against it?
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

This whole thing is just one collosal mess. Michael put McClain and Branca in charge of his Estate, I'm sorry but the family need to butt out. They wouldn't be so critical if they were left money in the will.
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

This whole thing is just one collosal mess. Michael put McClain and Branca in charge of his Estate, I'm sorry but the family need to butt out. They wouldn't be so critical if they were left money in the will.
And how is that any different from any other family? How do you know that the lawyers are going to do right? NO one knows. Bottom line, this is about money, and everyone is going to be involved. Like it or not.
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

I think everyone just need to leave Mrs.Kathrine alone. I think at this point, the Jacksons need to keep thier business out of the news in doing interviews and fight what they need to fight in court. I am not going to judge her because my family is in court battle over my father estate against his widow who is trying to cheat my siblings out of money that we learned that she fraud. This is why I say, if you are not in the mix, you do not know what the truth is when it comes to these issues. Most of the views are coming from a "bias" place; in order words, if you like the Jackson, you think one way regardless if it is true or not; and if you dislike the Jackson, you are thinking one way regardless if that news is true or not.

they had their chance to object to the will and didnt.limitations ran out and thats its. they talk the talk but dont walk the walk hence why they run to the media.when randy got a chance to go to court over i believe the executors he didnt turn up. your own issues obviously effect the way u feel on this
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

This is what "The Jacksons" refuse to accept.
Michael Jackson has three children, and he left them his fortune in the form of a trust. He did not name any of "The Jacksons" as executors of their trust.

He asked his mother to be the guardian of his children
(Prince Michael, Paris, and Blanket), and if she passes on before they are grown, he has asked Diana Ross to be the guardian of his children until they are grown.
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

It would be nice to hear what was said on The View.

I do not have local access.
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

they had their chance to object to the will and didnt.limitations ran out and thats its. they talk the talk but dont walk the walk hence why they run to the media.when randy got a chance to go to court over i believe the executors he didnt turn up. your own issues obviously effect the way u feel on this
yes, it does. like I said, no one know the real issues unless you are involved.
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

doesnt matter what the real issues are. they ahd a chance to object to the will and they didnt. so its irrelvent. your family had issues and acted on it. the jacksons went to the media instead of the courts.!
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

It would be nice to hear what was said on The View.

I do not have local access.

info will be in the jacksons family section of the board. seems like she was upset they got nothing in the will! guess thats why shes going around calling him a druggie as payback.for a good JW she seems very intrested in $.
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

Sorry, EW - I could have sworn that was where I had posted my query!

Apologies!
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

I think everyone just need to leave Mrs.Kathrine alone. I think at this point, the Jacksons need to keep thier business out of the news in doing interviews and fight what they need to fight in court. I am not going to judge her because my family is in court battle over my father estate against his widow who is trying to cheat my siblings out of money that we learned that she fraud. This is why I say, if you are not in the mix, you do not know what the truth is when it comes to these issues. Most of the views are coming from a "bias" place; in order words, if you like the Jackson, you think one way regardless if it is true or not; and if you dislike the Jackson, you are thinking one way regardless if that news is true or not.

Let the fans be. If they think what's going on isn't right, as long as they're being respectful let them say so. I could've swore it was you who didn't hesitate to call out MJ's ex-wives anytime they blinked, so why act like it's wrong to pass judgment?
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

I don't know where should I post it. Leslie writes that it's possible Mann doesn't really own the Jackson family memorabilia. What a mess.

http://lesliemjhu.blogspot.com/2011/01/who-owns-jackson-memorablia.html
1/31/2011

Who Owns The Jackson Memorablia?

I have been asked in the blog about Henry V. Vaccaro's ownership in the Jackson Family memorablia. Because there are different informations circulating in the media.

What I found out: Vaccaro has a case against a Californa man, named Benson Hopp. In this very ongoing case Vaccaro claims that Hopp stole some of the memorablia from the warehouse where it has been kept for months, and tried to sell them on an auction.

As per a January 31st, 2011 court paper Vaccaro still claims that he is the rightful owner of the memorablia. And furthermore: Vaccaro has a $550.000 unpaid federal tax lien and while the IRS made it's own research they found out that Vaccaro is the only owner of the items.

The IRS demands to sell these items to pay Vaccaro's liens. That most probably means that all the Jackson memorablias might be sold again, and that Howard Mann's ownership is questionable.

Anyways, the greedy old man, Vaccaro got the shorter end of the stick, again.
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

The IRS demands to sell these items to pay Vaccaro's liens. That most probably means that all the Jackson memorablias might be sold again, and that Howard Mann's ownership is questionable.

Oh that would be SWEET JUSTICE!

I would love for the IRS to swoop in there and relieve Mr. Mann of his "collection." LOL! And I'd love to see the look on his face, when they do it.

Then "maybe" the Jackson family can come together and find a way to buy their belongs back. I DOUBT they would be able to come together long enough to figure this all out, but hey, it's worth a shot!
 
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