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MJ Estate Sues Howard Mann and business partner Henry Vaccaro - Settlement reached

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PCR said:
LoL... this made me think of good old Billie Jean... :smilerolleyes:
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Ha, even nuts are attracted to his aura.
 
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I am very pleased the estate is coming down on these vultures. They are no nonsense and I'm glad.

I am not surprised Katherine was duped into this. I don't mean any disrespect, but she's been duped into doing many things by his unscrupulous husband all her life, so why not now? She is not strong enough to stand up to anybody unfortunately, and completely naive which is a shame. She did it with the Oprah interview and now with this Mann character and of course her lifelong partnership with his estranged greedy husband. Very sad, but at the same time how many times will she be taken in? I surely hope those three kids don't learn from her on that front anyway. They need to be very wise and stand up to the leeches out there. :doh:
 
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ExoticPrincess said:
That woman is a nut case! Someone should check to see if she's missing from a mental institution!:smilerolleyes:
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exactly and these are the type of people that Prince Paris and poor little Blanket are being exposed to...it really is very scary to think that SHE is what Michael protected his children from and here they are being thrown right in with her...it really is very sad.
 
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^Agreed. It's quite scary that this loony tune has such easy access to Michael's kids right now. I have no words.
 
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xthunderx2 said:
exactly and these are the type of people that Prince Paris and poor little Blanket are being exposed to...it really is very scary to think that SHE is what Michael protected his children from and here they are being thrown right in with her...it really is very sad.
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Geeezz... you are so right!
If Michael had to be protected against her, just to think she has now direct access the his kids... :bugeyed
 
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xthunderx2 - thanks for posting that information about the letters she was sending to Evvy.
 
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diana79 said:
xthunderx2 - thanks for posting that information about the letters she was sending to Evvy.
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welcome.....she is one crazy woman that is for sure...I dont get how Katherine can let her grandchildren be around all these evil people.
 
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thanks for posting this information. glad they do something about it. it's certainly not easy, because Mann is so close to the family and you've got to be listening and watching carefully to really see him.

I hope the children think about what their father wanted and who is working in his spirit. Mann pretends he is good, but his actions show a different side.

We know the Estate manages all finances and bundles all money for the children, for charity, for Grandma (well, first for all debts). Whoever works behind the back of the estate and not playing his part regarding the debts and the charities de facto works for his own pocket. The Estate must be supported, and Mann does not do that.

And most of all: Michael wanted the children to be able to walk around and just be. Media were hunting him, but he knew his children were safe. And now? Who is arguing for them to keep their faces hidden from the virtual reality and phantasy stories produced by media? A No-TV/Press-Policy is of the utmost importance now.

BB

:2cents:
 
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xthunderx2 said:
Here is the prelim-injuction from 2/18/10...ya gotta read it...

This is a page of it....

Beginning sometime in 2001, Ms. Johnson began her bizarre, unsolicited and deluded campaign to revive and insinuate her way into Jackson's foundation, as well as her harassment of Mr. Jackson and his representatives. In a July 2001 letter to Mr. Jackson's executive assistant, Evvy Tavesci, Ms. Johnson wrote:

"I would not be bothering Michael, nor did I, for Eight years because I just couldn't fully believe it all myself. But I have seen, in a 1993 near death-type experience, the future of many things...Michael will find me, and we will go to work for the Children of our Father. MICHAEL WILL NOT GO FORWARD WITH HEAL THE WORLD FOUNDATION WITHOUT ME."

Despite the fact that Ms. Tavesci did not respond to Ms. Johnson's overture to work with her, Ms. Johnson sent Ms. Tavesci another letter in December 2001, along with a video, insisting that Ms. Tavasci look at her materials regarding Heal the World Foundation.

No longer able to deal with Ms. Johnson's harassment, including Ms. Johnson's fraudulent representation of herself as Ms. Tavesci (by sending Mr. Jackson packages with Ms. Tavesci's name and return address) and Ms. Johnson's unannounced and uninvited appearance at Mr. Jackson's residence at Neverland Valley Ranch, Ms. Tavesci sought the help of Mr. Jackson's attorneys. In January 2002, attorneys for Mr. jackson advised Ms. Johnson that her "behavior and attempted communications with Mr. Jackson are harassing, highly inappropriate and constitutes a security risk to Jackson and his employees."

Ms. Johnson's lengthy reply included and "apology" to Ms. Tavesci for using her name and return address in an unsuccessful attempt to reach Mr. Jackson. Ms. Johnson also explained that she will not apologize to Mr. Jackson as "I am fairly certain that he had no discomfort, concern or annoyance from my attempts to get him this data."

She further stated that she "cannot agree to never again contact Mr. Jackson, as I happen to know through reliable sources, that he will very much want me to contact him, work with him and help him build his charity organization."

In April 2002, Ms. Johnson composed yet another five page, single-spaced letter to Ms. Tavesci. In it, Ms. Johnson attempted to justify her numerous harassing attempts at contacting Mr. Jackson by analogizing herself to a scientist who has discovered the cure for cancer, and Mr. Jackson to the President of the United States of America:

"I realize to most, going to Mr. Jackson's house, 'from your viewpoint' would seem intrusive and violating. From my viewpoint, the idea that I 'wouldn't go' is unthinkable and cowardice. It would be like you having the cure for cancer and having to convince the medical community first that although their genius minds had tried, that little ol [sic] you, who isn't established and known in the scientific and medical fields, have possession of something so important, and then to have to convince the heavily guarded President of the United States of your discovery."

Ms. Johnson goes on to explain that she trusted Mr. Jackson "[n]ot because he is a big super star, but because an Angel of God showed me who he is in the spirit world as well as on Earth..."

Finally, and in direct opposition to Defendants' statements in their Counterclaim, Ms. Johnson admits that the relationship between her, HTWF and Mr. Jackson is non-existent: "What I did was not the right action, as it exacerbated an already non-existent relationship and caused no good effects."

http://www.rosespeak...-Injunction.pdf




http://www.rosespeaks.com/downloads/Jackson/world/2-18-10-MOTION-Preliminary-Injunction.pdf
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Thanks for posting...This is disturbing, indeed.

Having Prince on board, working with Melissa Johnson, is alarming.
Especially, since she has history of harassment complaints against her, when Michael Jackson was alive.
 
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Has anyone noticed that the Jackson's 'declaration' has a glaring mistake saying Michael did Live Aid!!! instead of USA For Africa!!!
 
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angelofinnocence said:
Has anyone noticed that the Jackson's 'declaration' has a glaring mistake saying Michael did Live Aid!!! instead of USA For Africa!!!
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Just shows how much into MJ they were :smilerolleyes:
 
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angelofinnocence said:
Has anyone noticed that the Jackson's 'declaration' has a glaring mistake saying Michael did Live Aid!!! instead of USA For Africa!!!
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Yes. ...

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Just by looking at her gives me the creeps, her presence and everything, the way she talks too is disturbing and terribly non-credible. ....
 
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noirnoar said:
Thanks for posting...This is disturbing, indeed.

Having Prince on board, working with Melissa Johnson, is alarming.
Especially, since she has history of harassment complaints against her, when Michael Jackson was alive.
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it is alarming...if you look at the HTW websight they have all 3 childrens faces plastered on there plus..Joe and Katherine. It is scary how much these children are being exploided.....Michael NEVER would of wanted his children's faces on the internet for exploitation ..
 
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It is also very sad that every venture grandma makes that involves money has to include these 3 grandchildren. If she was including the others, it would not look so suspicious. Who told her to only use the 3 children? Who told her to go against the Estate? Who told her to sue AEG but not Murray? Who told her to add Ortega? I really do not think she is sitting at home and making these decisions herself, so this is the only reason I am not too hard on her.

Notice she lost weight, from the picture someone posted here. That is why Michael left money for her so she did not have to stress about going out and making money. I wish she begins to understand this and take it easy.
 
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Petrarose said:
Notice she lost weight, from the picture someone posted here. That is why Michael left money for her so she did not have to stress about going out and making money. I wish she begins to understand this and take it easy.
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I guess you are right :(
 
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I have a question for those familiar with the law : if the estate wins their lawsuit, are they entitled to sue Katherine ? I'm not sure they would do that, I'm just asking to understand the situation of everyone involved.
 
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bouee said:
I have a question for those familiar with the law : if the estate wins their lawsuit, are they entitled to sue Katherine ? I'm not sure they would do that, I'm just asking to understand the situation of everyone involved.
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Just my 2 cents, but notice that Katherine is supposed to be Mann's business partner and the Estate only went after Mann. That maybe a clue to your question. I doubt the Estate would sue elderly grandma. They may write her a strict letter and have her sign it. One of the legal people here will know more.
 
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Petrarose said:
It is also very sad that every venture grandma makes that involves money has to include these 3 grandchildren. If she was including the others, it would not look so suspicious. Who told her to only use the 3 children? Who told her to go against the Estate? Who told her to sue AEG but not Murray? Who told her to add Ortega? I really do not think she is sitting at home and making these decisions herself, so this is the only reason I am not too hard on her.

Notice she lost weight, from the picture someone posted here. That is why Michael left money for her so she did not have to stress about going out and making money. I wish she begins to understand this and take it easy.
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Yes, it is very clear who was behind all her decisions, her greedy, unscrupulous husband. But there comes a time when she's got to wake up and wise up. She has to stand up and say NO! And like you say she doesn't need to stress over making any money anymore. She has to know that she should go to the estate if anybody,I mean anybody approaches her with any type of money making scheme regarding Michael. She needs to tell them, GO TO THE ESTATE!

I feel bad for her, but when will she learn? :(
 
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tricia70 said:
Yes, it is very clear who was behind all her decisions, her greedy, unscrupulous husband. But there comes a time when she's got to wake up and wise up. She has to stand up and say NO! And like you say she doesn't need to stress over making any money anymore. She has to know that she should go to the estate if anybody,I mean anybody approaches her with any type of money making scheme regarding Michael. She needs to tell them, GO TO THE ESTATE!

I feel bad for her, but when will she learn? :(
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I think that at her age now, she will not learn. To me her thinking is too entrenched in pleasing the particular sons. I think every decision she makes has something to do with the sons or Joe.
 
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bouee said:
I have a question for those familiar with the law : if the estate wins their lawsuit, are they entitled to sue Katherine ? I'm not sure they would do that, I'm just asking to understand the situation of everyone involved.
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They are ALREADY "entitled to sue Katherine," as Mann's business partner. I think they declined not to out of courtesy for Katherine, as Michael's mother. But, she is walking on very thin ice, IMHO.
 
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Petrarose said:
I think that at her age now, she will not learn. To me her thinking is too entrenched in pleasing the particular sons. I think every decision she makes has something to do with the sons or Joe.
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I agree
 
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So is there a hearing today?
 
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ivy said:
Michael Jackson Blamed for Botching Lawsuit
2/25/2011 12:50 PM PST by TMZ Staff

Katherine Jackson's business partner wants the MJ Estate off his back in a legal war over MJ merchandise ... claiming Michael himself picked the same fight when he was alive ... until he realized he couldn't win.

Long story short -- the Estate wants Howard Mann to stop using MJ's name and image to hock various websites, books, and other products. Problem is, according to Mann, this is the exact same lawsuit that Michael pursued back in 2004 ... only to "abandon" the legal fight in 2006.
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In my opinion, Mann is, once again, trying to TWIST THE FACTS!

I could be wrong, but as I recall when Michael filed his initial lawsuit, he was trying to get his belongs back. (Along with Janet and LaToya).

They were trying to get their stuff back. It had nothing to do with copy right infringement.

Diane Dimond went to look at the stuff, hoping to find something incriminating. She found nothing!

Michael dropped out of the lawsuit. Then picked it back up.

I remember there was even a point where the media was gearing up, because they all "thought" Michael was going to be making an appearance at the Clark County Courthouse. Then they said that he was going to appear via video hook up. Neither happened.

Then if I recall correctly, Michael's team gave a "list" of things Michael wanted back. He got what he wanted back and that was the end of it.

I might have missed something, but I don't recall this lawsuit having anything to do with Michael's copyright etc. It was always about Michael getting his belongs back.
 
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yeah it was defo about the above. i cant remember if there was the xtra copyright issues involved aswell though.but the main bulk of the lawsuit was about getting his things back that vaccaro had no right to
 
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Big Apple2 said:
In my opinion, Mann is, once again, trying to TWIST THE FACTS!

I could be wrong, but as I recall when Michael filed his initial lawsuit, he was trying to get his belongs back. (Along with Janet and LaToya).

They were trying to get their stuff back. It had nothing to do with copy right infringement.

Diane Dimond went to look at the stuff, hoping to find something incriminating. She found nothing!

Michael dropped out of the lawsuit. Then picked it back up.

I remember there was even a point where the media was gearing up, because they all "thought" Michael was going to be making an appearance at the Clark County Courthouse. Then they said that he was going to appear via video hook up. Neither happened.

Then if I recall correctly, Michael's team gave a "list" of things Michael wanted back. He got what he wanted back and that was the end of it.

I might have missed something, but I don't recall this lawsuit having anything to do with Michael's copyright etc. It was always about Michael getting his belongs back.
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elusive moonwalker said:
yeah it was defo about the above. i cant remember if there was the xtra copyright issues involved aswell though.but the main bulk of the lawsuit was about getting his things back that vaccaro had no right to
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I posted the original lawsuit a few weeks ago. And yes, there was copyright infringement involved.
 
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I think the estate is trying their best not to add Katherine to the mess but if she doesn't quit, they'll be backed into a corner and they will have no choice but to do what needs to be done for Michael's estate. These are high-powered lawyers. I'm sure what's holding them off is the fact that she is Michael's mother and they won't to be in the position of his estate suing his own mother, attendant with the bad publicity. If she's also sued for some kind of fraud, that may also question her judgement in raising his 3 children. In this case, the estate is actually helping her because she's a toe away from being sued again and losing. She may find that one day, the excuse of being Michael Jackson's mother is not going to hold anymore. And unfortunately, when she passes, her estate is still going to be in debt. Creditors will be filing claims against her estate.

She has more resources than plenty of people her own age and she hasn't been broke since the 60's so the excuse she needs money is baloney. At this stage in her life, instead of complaining, she ought to be grateful she's blessed to have the material comforts she does have.
 
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That lawsuit was Michael Vs Vacarro this one is Michael's esata Vs Mann. And this new new lawsuit is about more then copyright this guy thanked estate for a book they had nothing to do with used copyrighted pictures for that book used a song owned by the Jackson estate and tried to play it off as new there is much more to it
 
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