Re: Someone's mixed STTR with Bieber / Update: Estate says it is unauthorized and song is taken down
Just the thought of MJ being in heavy rotation while being associated with Justin Bieber makes me wanna puke. How embarassing that would be! And I don't care how many records they would sell just because 13-14 girls would buy it because of Bieber. There is such a thing as artisic integrity and on the long term it's more important than a moment of chart success.
Wasnt MJ once a 19 year-old singer too? Didnt he have 13-14 y.o. girl fans? Yes, he did.
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Doesnt he have 13-14 y.o. girl fans now? Yes, he has.
Justin, like MJ in 1971-...1977-1978-1979...1982..., has the exact right to have his pretty young fans who can buy HIS songs, like those pretty young fans who bought MJs records decades ago.
Whats the problem?
When MJ was accused he had stole classic music on his Dangerous album (Will you be there intro) and lost the case=settled, and was to pay millions, that was what? The artisic integrity?
A few people have mentioned the fact that this is one way for Michael to gain younger fans for his legacy to grow in the future. You know what I think? It's really a shame that some people/fans think Michael's legacy will only live on with the help of these low-grade, disrespectable artists of today. Michael didn't need them 20, 30, 40 years ago. He didn't even need them 5 years ago and he certainly doesn't need them today. It is ridiculous to say that the estate needs to collaborate with current artists for Michael Jackson to remain relevant. He's always been and always will be. Pairing him with current singers like Bieber puts him on their level and devalues his legacy, in my opinion. That is why I find this remix degrading. I don't care that the song isn't "official." The fact that it even exists and has been majorly leaked is damaging already. Most music today sucks as it is with only a few exceptions. He doesn't need Justin freaking Bieber's help to appeal to the new generation...Bieber can't even help himself. He's a joke. I know many children and teens of today's world who love MJ. He has a much broader and much more diverse fan base than Elvis and even Elvis' legacy is still pretty strong all these years later. Have a little faith in Michael Jackson, people. Ok I'm done. Sorry for the rant...just wanted to get that out.
Who was buing MJs records 40 years ago? Not mostly teen fans? Are teen fans irrelevant?
What I can see (its been for 20 years) that MJs fans, I should say - former fans, do not buy his records anymore.
MJ fans do not have any larger interest in MJs music and his songs.
For the last 15 years the fans support has declined drastically.
Anyway, why MJ fans want to strike a pose as those who can judge who or what low-grade, disrespectable artists of today are.
MJ wanted Gaga for his TII tour, if MJ didnt want her, fans would attack her for wanting to collaborate with MJs music or himself..., like what MJ said is OK, and what the other say, is not OK, because they can degrade MJ?
One of the biggest problem for MJ as the artist is some of his fans.
They want the others to be fair in many issues with MJ, and on the other hand, they are the same ignorant people towards the others like Bieber.
(MJ) fan forums are not the whole world, its the celect company for the members, and very often its a place for creating unreal bubbles, a fictitious world of fans consoling with ... who is the best in the world... their hero.
But reality is different.
This is a joke, right? Sigh
Why are people so obsessed with charts and sales? Who cares about that? It's art that matters. Besides, there will be no battles between anyone, no new songs, and no new videos, because Michael is not here to do any of that. Let the man rest, for god's sake.
Because the charts count, and the sales...? well... have you seen the Billboard anniversary chart? Have you read any relevant book about music and sales? Where is MJ?
What MJ fans think about MJ is irrelevant of out the community. The only official statistics count what matters...
Shame on the MJ Estate/Sony if they really considered/consider to associate MJ's name with Justin Bieber. I thought the Michael album was a one-off blunder and they learnt to respect Michael's art since then. I still hope Bieber just somehow stole/illegally got hold of the song, but I think the Estate is probably involved. Why are some people so desperate to want to see MJ's name on today's crappy charts even at the price of artistic integrity? Yeah, Bieber's 13-14 year old fans will go out and buy it and make it a hit. I don't think MJ fans could be particularly proud of such an "achievement".
Why do you judge Bieber? It would have been better if the other artists had had attacked MJ claiming: we dont want to associate with a peadophile? And thier fans could have refused to buy the songs associated with such a child abuser?
MJ fans should have been wiser before judging the other artists.
I personally am not 13, I like the idea of having JB and MJ on the song, it sounds cool, even its something like a demo, unfinished/remixed song, but I dont listen to the JB songs, dont buy his albums (though his latest album is... more than average for his age).
