Michael's handwritten notes from Jackson - AEG trial motions

LindavG;3901832 said:
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It seems that "Script Tut" is written seperately from the musical part. I read it like this: "(...) should be in (...) musical". I don't know if the note about "family" that is written underneath is part of it.


I read not the word "family" but "Hired only Celine" (the "J" is deleted.)
or an other possobilität is maybe "Culver"??? (You know, the Culver Studios...)
 
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Look at what I have found, Linda:
http://www.aegworldwide.com/about/divisions/kenehrlichproductions

I had googled 'Ken Ehrlichman' because I rembered this name or so in context with TII.

Maybe detectiv Ivy could Michael's scrawls not decipher easily.

I would think Michael misspelled Ken's name and he really meant Ken Ehrlich
Michael had a connection with him. In 2008, Ken tried to stage tribute to MJ in relation 25th anniversary of Thriller, and he had business meeting with MJ day before he died
See:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2010/01/grammys-go-3d-with-michael-jackson-tribute.html
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2bhmqS7KJQ

Wasn't Michael planning a thriller movie, maybe they talked about it?
 
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But his docs told him about rem sleep. (...)
I guess those articles above are looking at drugs like propofol and how they work, and it is true about the limited research. However, they did know it was not natural sleep, and did not have the same benefits of natural sleep. You are basically in a coma. Michael was told and I really feel he understood what the docs said.

To me there is something missing in this puzzle....

It's true they did know it was not natural sleep, and basically it can be like an induced coma. However, we don't really know if he was really told about it, and also the wakening feeling effect is that of feeling refreshed, which can be easily confused with the effect of real sleep. That's why I said that he might have regarded it as REM sleep if he was not well informed by his doctors.

Lee for example insisted on the danger of administering this substance in a home setting, but nothing (Edited: maybe she added something about that not being real sleep, I think I remember, but her emphasis was in the danger) was said about whether it was real sleep or not and the long effect it deprived of real sleep and the like.
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MJ kept insisting his Drs had told him it was safe as long as he was monitored and that all he wanted was a good night sleep.
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Lee went to her office to get her Physicians Desk reference to show MJ the side effects of propofol use and only in medical setting.
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She consulted a friend, a medical doctor, who told her it was an anesthetic used only in a medical setting.
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On April 18th, MJ talked to Lee about Diprivan - the commercial name for Propofol. He told Lee he just needed a good night sleep
 
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Overall I think the notes show that Michael would have made alot of money so are good for KJ- Randy Phillips did testify in CM trial that Michael was the "greatest star in contemporary music".
 
Radar got their hand on the reason AEG doesn't want these notes to be shown
“There is simply no evidence showing when Michael Jackson wrote the notes, why he did so, or what they mean. As a result, there is no way to know whether the notes ever showed Michael Jackson’s plan, motive, or intent,” said a motion, obtained by Radar.
 
Mneme;3901966 said:
I read not the word "family" but "Hired only Celine" (the "J" is deleted.)
or an other possobilität is maybe "Culver"??? (You know, the Culver Studios...)

I read "and family films"
 
Bubs;3902175 said:
Radar got their hand on the reason AEG doesn't want these notes to be shown
“There is simply no evidence showing when Michael Jackson wrote the notes, why he did so, or what they mean. As a result, there is no way to know whether the notes ever showed Michael Jackson’s plan, motive, or intent,” said a motion, obtained by Radar.

That's a fair point. We also don't know what other notes MJ may have written that the Jacksons are keeping behind. We don't know if we're getting the full picture of MJ's state of mind here.
 
jrsfan;3902173 said:
Overall I think the notes show that Michael would have made alot of money so are good for KJ- Randy Phillips did testify in CM trial that Michael was the "greatest star in contemporary music".

The only thing we know is that Michael had big plans.
The production of This is it became quite expensive because Michael wanted the best and had ideas for it that were expensiv.
It is possible that Michael would have made a lot of money but it´s also possible that he made movies that were expensive to do , movies that didn´t pay.
 
That's a fair point. We also don't know what other notes MJ may have written that the Jacksons are keeping behind. We don't know if we're getting the full picture of MJ's state of mind here.

Yes, wonder what's happened to all the 'i hate branca' and 'i don't want branca in my business or looking after my estate when i'm gone' notes that latoya and mrs j have talked about finding. It's a little puzzling why the family are keeping them private, maybe it's to avoid confrontation and controversy - you know how they don't like to cause any trouble.
 
I just think how different Michaels career and life would have been now in 2013 if he didnt pass.. It's sad that he was finnallly ready to get back and show that he's always earned his place on the thrown. within 2009-2013 we would have gotten more MJ work than we did in all of the 00's before that.

We would probably have had the This Is It era.. and the start of a new era around soon..
 
I wanted you to read this because it compliments the information on the notes and what some of us have been saying about Michael in this thread. It shows that some of his ideas were already being developed and he had already received financial backing, his plans for the future, and some creative innovations he gave to others. It shows he is not greedy or sits and do nothing and expect to make millions, but that at times when his deals are set to become a reality, some horrible situation arises:

This is from Dieter Wiesner, who we all know about, from a contribution from A Life For Love, by Brigitte Bloemen, Marina Doble, Miriam Lohr (Eds).

…..”One more chance”, due to be released in November 2003, and was the last project Michael needed to finish to fulfill his contract with Sony Music. **** After that he wanted to explore other areas of film, entertainment, and charity. He called this his “second life”, after his first life of being a musical megastar. He always said, he didn’t want to end up as an old man on stage. He wanted to continue giving some concerts every few years in spectacular places like at the pyramids in Egypt or somewhere else around the world. This he would do for his fans.

But mainly he intended to invest and go into the film business, buy the rights to parts of Universal films that were on the market and use them to do theme parks and merchandising. Another already very concrete business step was to buy the rights to the Marvel catalogue to turn comics like “Superman” into motion picture films.

Secondly, Michael also wanted to continue creating family entertainment. ****What most people don’t know is that Michael worked with a lot of people in Las Vegas and helped creating new attractions, music, designs and family entertainment, like the trick fountains at the “Bellagio” hotel, the roller coaster in “New York, New York”, the volcano at the “Mirage”, the “Treasure Island” pirate ship, the “Siegfried & Roy” show or the “Secret Garden”. Many years ago, when Las Vegas was still known to be a gambler’s paradise, Michael already knew that family entertainment would be a branch worthwhile to invest in and rebuild. And he was right. Nowadays Las Vegas visitors consist of 75% families, coming mostly to enjoy the great entertainment, not so much the gambling.


Being the artist that he was, Michael very much concentrated on family entertainment that would deliver values and was good and suitable for the whole family, kids and parents alike, so that they can spend valuable time together…………….****He provided ideas for companies like Disney, too, but gave all of his ideas for free, without getting any money or credit for it.

He was a real visionary in those regards and had great ideas which later on were used to make big money……..

Thirdly, of course Michael wanted to continue doing charity. But not only in his own country but worldwide. Especially he loved and adored Africa and the people there. ****Quite early on, before “Facebook” and other networks appeared, Michael already had visionary ideas to use the new media, the internet, to create a worldwide social network, via “Ichat” and other new programs. Through them it would have been possible to teach children in Africa or other disadvantaged areas of the world for free. Michael called it “Schools of America” and wanted to provide the computers and all the hardware, organize teachers and professors who could give lesions via video stream and chat.

Another one of Michael’s charity projects was to concentrate on young artists who under regular circumstances would never get a chance at record labels or would only be exploited by them as it often happens nowadays. He wanted to give those unknown talents a real chance, wanted to be their mentor, help them financially and business wise. He wanted to encourage young people to go for their dreams and help them achieve their dreams. He always told me, “I am just a tool, the gift comes from God”. That is why he felt that he should pass his success along to others, pass on the gift of talent he had received. Michael started this project with a young girl called Nisha from India with whom he recorded three songs in 2003.

****So towards the end of 2003 we were in the final stages regarding the deal with Marvel. Financing was set, contracts were made and only in a few days the transaction would have been perfect and Michael’s step into the film industry would have been set. In October 2003 the Radio Music Awards in Las Vegas and the charity song was close to being released as a single independently from Sony. “Clear Channel Radio” supported us and made the song available for download via internet. It was bound to be a success and raise a lot of money for charity, as “We are the World” did almost 20 years before. Other projects, like a cooperation with “Apple” in which Steve Jobs wanted Michael’s silhouette as the design for the new IPod, were also starting to be realized. So especially after our efforts, none of us wasted another thought on the Bashir debacle anymore. We were just working on the very last video Michael had to deliver to Sony Music, called “One more chance”, in Las Vegas, when all hell broke loose.
 
[QUOTE. We were just working on the very last video Michael had to deliver to Sony Music, called “One more chance”, in Las Vegas, when all hell broke loose.[/QUOTE]

Poor michael :cry:
 
Bubs;3902175 said:
Radar got their hand on the reason AEG doesn't want these notes to be shown
“There is simply no evidence showing when Michael Jackson wrote the notes, why he did so, or what they mean. As a result, there is no way to know whether the notes ever showed Michael Jackson’s plan, motive, or intent,” said a motion, obtained by Radar.

Those were some of the points we were making: We don't know the date, we don't have context, ... The best thing is to give those back to his children, Mr. Guardian. Knowing this judge she may let the plaintiffs use it since it helps Katherine's money.
 
When Michael said in his notes that he wanted to be the greatest performer of all time the media have started calling him desperate. What's so desperate about wanting to be the best? Every little thing that Michael says the media just has to belittle him for it
 
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Petrarose;3902502 said:
I wanted you to read this because it compliments the information on the notes and what some of us have been saying about Michael in this thread. It shows that some of his ideas were already being developed and he had already received financial backing, his plans for the future, and some creative innovations he gave to others. It shows he is not greedy or sits and do nothing and expect to make millions, but that at times when his deals are set to become a reality, some horrible situation arises:

This is from Dieter Wiesner, who we all know about, from a contribution from A Life For Love, by Brigitte Bloemen, Marina Doble, Miriam Lohr (Eds).

My attention is getting always bigger if I hear or read about Dieter Wiesner.
Obvious he is not only the source for that Jacobshagen book but also for this book from Bloemen/Doble/Lohr.
In Germany D.W. has published a book under his own name in 2011.

In the thread about this Jacobshagen book I had copied for Petrarose an article from a German magazin in which one can read astonishing things from and about the person Wiesner (for example: he says in relation to MJ "Seit der Maikl tot ist, ist der größte Kostenfaktor weg" -- engl.: Since the Mike is dead the biggest cost factor is away).
In this article there is a talk about a treasure under Wiesner's desk in which he safes documents and about 20 hours telefoncalls from MJ on Wiesner's answering machine.
I have my posting to Petrarose with the link for that article deleted after her asking for translation because the article is very long and my english.... You now how bad it is. Nevertheless with an translation machine and a bit of good will it could have read.


I wouldn't write this posting here if I was not stumbled over this sentence partikl:
" It shows that.....he had already received financial backing, ...."
Wiesner told und tells often about this 1 Billion story which he organizated by a Swiss bank. But no body knows what was/is with this 1 Billion made?

Now, we (a few people) have pretty much material collected about Wiesner's glory time with Michael and also about Michael's financial state in 2001 'til 2005. In this time Michael -for example- he had enlarged his debts (Sony; Bank of America), his merchandising was from Sony signatures away and from Wiesner as MJ.net Entertainment in Germany founded and bancrupty 2003 together with the loss from HIStory logo. (but this logo was only losed for Michael not for Wiesner and this is another great story.)

Also if I may venture my opinion: I don't believe that Michael had already received financial backing. Because for a new debt one needs to have securities and on both, the Sony/ATV and Neverland, were highly debts.
And more: For me it looks like Wiesner would have Michael leaded in the ruin with his plans for Michael about MJ Universe et all.


Now you may say I am a small-minded petty bourgeois and Michael was thinking only in biggest forms and that I have no idea from big business et cetera et cetera... Amen.
It may be you are right. But I know if I want buy bread und I have no money I don't can buy bread.



to the 9 notes: imo they should be tested from an expert with regard to their authenticity.
Something is strange with them.
 
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To see these written plans/dreams come true would have been magic.. Even if I am being a realistic person and say maybe half of these plans would become reality.. These would be magical for us fans to whitness it.

There are fans that were able to whitness MJ through the eras, and some became fans 2001 where is was almost a half era (things didnt really happen the way planned) or post 2001..

I would have loved to have those fans whitness a Michael era in its full.. and I would have loved to whitness again.
 
What I have read about goals is that you need an 'action plan' forhow to reach the goals you set, and this is a detailed plan of how to take small steps to reach the larger goal. For example, if your goal is to lose weight, what specific stepsare you going to take on a daily basis--what is your meal plan, etc. So the action plan is missing in these notes. They are goal setting, yes, but without action plans they are very broad and there are so many that I don't see them as realistic (sorry). It would be better to focus on a more limited number of goals and then have action plans. Otherwise, these can be seen as wishes and motivators rather than concrete and achievable plans.

Just my 2 cents, and I do love MJ with all my heart but these are being presented to the jury solely for purposes of boosting the damage award.
 
I understand what you mean Jamba. I was thinking of over the years how many other notes Michael wrote, some of which I'm sure came to fruition - but I'm sure some went by the wayside. I didnt read them and think that Michael was going to necessarily achieve all the goals - I was just happy reading that Michael was positive and had those big plans.
 
My memory from the story in the bible is limited-I actually have several bibles but there are in another building and it´s very dark outside just now..
But I came to think about this;
A man was out and sowed the seeds. some fell upon a rock, some
seeds fell on sterile ground while others fell on good soil.

I think I at least got the context of it.
It´s the same with ideas, they got to have the right surroundings to work.
 
When Michael said in his notes that he wanted to be the greatest performer of all time the media have started calling him desperate. What's so desperate about wanting to be the best? Every little thing that Michael says the media just has to belittle him for it

That is because these line writers, commentatos and tv presenters are most not more than mediocre.
It is the envy for every body who is more successfull, more independent, more rich etc as they self. These people make them aware their own boring mediocrity. Therefore: Dismantling.
And while they lift down the successfulls they lift high their own normally average.

Envy and vanity are the worst and mostly they are hand in hand and to the same time. They are our most bad characteristica.
And only the spezies 'human' owns they.
 
him wanting to be the greatest performer of all time is no different than when he'd write on the walls that Thriller would be the best selling album of all time.... They find that really inspirational so there is no reason to see this any different.. Like any artist does what they do to be a middle of the line artist.. PLEASE!!! everyone wants to be the best, if not why go through the hoops and work so hard to make it "big"...
 
What I have read about goals is that you need an 'action plan' forhow to reach the goals you set, and this is a detailed plan of how to take small steps to reach the larger goal. For example, if your goal is to lose weight, what specific stepsare you going to take on a daily basis--what is your meal plan, etc. So the action plan is missing in these notes. They are goal setting, yes, but without action plans they are very broad and there are so many that I don't see them as realistic (sorry). It would be better to focus on a more limited number of goals and then have action plans. Otherwise, these can be seen as wishes and motivators rather than concrete and achievable plans.

Just my 2 cents, and I do love MJ with all my heart but these are being presented to the jury solely for purposes of boosting the damage award.

There's action planning all throughout these notes. What was his action plan, what he had to do in order to get his housing in order and to make money to fulfill all his other plans? This Is It. Every morning he woke up and wrote "gotta go full out, only 2 months left, etc etc." is Michael action planning. Lets not think these notes were found in some secret treasure chest by the Jacksons, they were recovered from Michael's room, which was filled with notes like this. He wants to contact Randy, more action planning. The biggest action plan of them all were that he wouldn't negotiate with AEG unless they promised him all this stuff.

He knew what had to be done to get where he wanted to go. And he knew how to get there.
 
Mneme You know I am with you with that Weisner. He says different things depending on who he is talking to, or which language he is saying it in. However, I do know he was engaged in some deals with Michael and the allegations did cause people to drop Michael like a hot potato. There are some other horrible things he did too, but that is another thread.
 
There's action planning all throughout these notes. What was his action plan, what he had to do in order to get his housing in order and to make money to fulfill all his other plans? This Is It. Every morning he woke up and wrote "gotta go full out, only 2 months left, etc etc." is Michael action planning. Lets not think these notes were found in some secret treasure chest by the Jacksons, they were recovered from Michael's room, which was filled with notes like this. He wants to contact Randy, more action planning. The biggest action plan of them all were that he wouldn't negotiate with AEG unless they promised him all this stuff.

He knew what had to be done to get where he wanted to go. And he knew how to get there.

^^^ Yes... agree.:)
 
Just my 2 cents, and I do love MJ with all my heart but these are being presented to the jury solely for purposes of boosting the damage award.

Perhaps, but it is evidence of his upcoming business goals. And they should have the right to show it. For me personally, I'm just proud that he still had so much to look forward to and it shows he had a good sense of business. Some goals were very high, but that's what made Michael and that's what separates the greats from the ordinary.
 
There's action planning all throughout these notes. What was his action plan, what he had to do in order to get his housing in order and to make money to fulfill all his other plans? This Is It. Every morning he woke up and wrote "gotta go full out, only 2 months left, etc etc." is Michael action planning. Lets not think these notes were found in some secret treasure chest by the Jacksons, they were recovered from Michael's room, which was filled with notes like this. He wants to contact Randy, more action planning. The biggest action plan of them all were that he wouldn't negotiate with AEG unless they promised him all this stuff.

He knew what had to be done to get where he wanted to go. And he knew how to get there.

Thank you for this. You made me realize that people go about things in different ways, when you talk about action planning. We tend to have a generic meaning of things, and think for everyone that is the way it works for them.

Another thing about these notes is that we don't know what percentage of them already began. When I say began, it could be a simple thing like a phone call to another interested party. Maybe some of them were for 2014, 2015, we don't know, so we can't say they are unrealistic, because we do not have the information needed that would make them a reality. We do not have the mindset, talent, drive, motivation, networking that would make them a reality, so I think we should stop saying they are unrealistic for Michael Jackson.

I wrote some time ago that our early mega rich like Rockerfeller, Mellons, Vanderbelt, etc., used to meet monthly to see how they could help each other make more millions. I mean even though they already had all that wealth, they would sit down and come up with ideas where they all could get involved and each come out making more money. I notice a lot of these habits with Michael. He would call his people for a meeting, and they would have to have a list of ideas to present to him about a project, how it will be done, & how much money it will generate. Michael read books about how to create wealth. People don't realize that there is a way to gain wealth and it is not guess work. It involves a special way of thinking and that is why he studied the masters to see what they did. I always felt that if it was not for the allegations, persecution, & sleeping problems, Michael would have created more and amassed more wealth. Sometimes when you make plans, it is hard to filter in the societal forces that can destroy or impede your plans.
 
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