Michael - The Great Album Debate

[StellaJackson]

I can't believe people are advocating the buying of fake albums on twitter like it is the be and all and end all of Michael's legacy.

 

[Arklove]

good luck getting in touch with people who don't exist. i don't even believe they did an analysis. they've lied about everything else.

of everything bumper has written, there are really only 2 questions about the estate's statement that i care about:
-Why the Estate doesn't post the report made by the forensic?
-Why SONY doesn't post the report made by their forensic?

ya. where are those? they don't exist.

there's really no reason not to publish those findings. even if, for some reason, they DIDNT want to post the actual analysis, they could have at least cited a name. I mean, who does that?? you can't just credit 2 vague nameless "experts." It's completely not credible. It would be like writing a research paper and putting in all your "facts" but not citing a source. If your works cited page listed "various experts in their field" you would get a big fat FAIL on that paper, i tell ya what.

they cited nothing, offered nothing credible, released songs that sound nothing like michael, and people still believe them. Wow, they have the easiest job in the world.

Yup, they're like, 'Jackpot!'...They'll continue to keep doing it cuz they've gotten away with it...

 

[BUMPER SNIPPET]

good luck getting in touch with people who don't exist. i don't even believe they did an analysis. they've lied about everything else.

of everything bumper has written, there are really only 2 questions about the estate's statement that i care about:
-Why the Estate doesn't post the report made by the forensic?
-Why SONY doesn't post the report made by their forensic?

ya. where are those? they don't exist.

there's really no reason not to publish those findings. even if, for some reason, they DIDNT want to post the actual analysis, they could have at least cited a name. I mean, who does that?? you can't just credit 2 vague nameless "experts." It's completely not credible. It would be like writing a research paper and putting in all your "facts" but not citing a source. If your works cited page listed "various experts in their field" you would get a big fat FAIL on that paper, i tell ya what.

they cited nothing, offered nothing credible, released songs that sound nothing like michael, and people still believe them. Wow, they have the easiest job in the world.

A very good point! From the beginning I have been wondering why there is no name.

The excuse of being harrassed by the media and/or fans isn't actually valid. They wouldn't be more harrassed than any other of the people involved. It would suffice to publish a complete report clearly explaining everything, maybe have a Q&A session and that's it. But none of this happened.

 

[StellaJackson]

A very good point! From the beginning I have been wondering why there is no name.

The excuse of being harrassed by the media and/or fans isn't actually valid. They wouldn't be more harrassed than any other of the people involved. It would suffice to publish a complete report clearly explaining everything, maybe have a Q&A session and that's it. But none of this happened.

Who are the best known forensic musicologists in the United States? It shouldn't be that difficult to narrow it down. If they even exist that is.

 

[Willy]

Someone should contact Nauden and ask him about his client's artistic plans, like when will he drop his new album. It's already 2012 and there's no sign of it, wonder why. :smilerolleyes:

 

[ivy]

There should be a way to get the names of both experts (formal letter to Sony, The Estate?) so we can contact them (formal letter again) and ask if it is possible they care to explain to us (fans and laymen) how in this case the analysis was conducted exactly, as many fans have questions about it. Most experts are proud of their work, so I see no reason why they wouldn't adress that question.

Never going to happen. The only reason they don't name them is because they'll be harassed to death.

A very good point! From the beginning I have been wondering why there is no name.

The excuse of being harrassed by the media and/or fans isn't actually valid. They wouldn't be more harrassed than any other of the people involved. It would suffice to publish a complete report clearly explaining everything, maybe have a Q&A session and that's it. But none of this happened.

Well other people involved did get harassed don't you remember? There have been quite a lot of libel / slander / defamation, people have been tweeted curses and hate and threats, Malachi got hacked, mockery videos, people's heads on goats, boycotts and even protests. So it's quite valid.

Oh and Charles Thomson who claims to see an expert test that says 100% Malachi is not disclosing it because he believes lunatics (meaning believers) is going to harass the person.

In a nutshell, all the report says is that according to the forensic it is MJ's voice, but he does not say that it is not JM's voice. Indeed how could he know if he didn't compare it with JM's acappellas?

p.s. Instead of contacting JM, it would hav ebeen more useul to compare the waveforms with JM's acappellas to, you know, as they claim "in order to be absolutely certain".

I know you never accept this but the expert contacted by max-jax said he couldn't compare it to Malachi because it would be leading.
Also they could have seen issues with the songs - if any - without the need of Malachi acapellas. For example the points when you believe to be so obvious would have given major not matching results, as well as overall low possibilities. So even without Malachi acapella's they would have been able to identify that there's a problem.

There could be a lot more doubters than anyone else...who knows...

Reaction IMO. For example discovery autopsy show or cardiff tribute was able to raise a high and combined voice among the fans. We opened the thread to public however who has been posting has not changed. So little reaction now shows that either people are believers or have moved on from this issue.

This is something I've always been curious about. Just who identified Jason as a possible contender?

Jacksons

And I had naively thought that they contacted Jason because we the fans thought it was Jason. Actually they had already contacted him before the fans even knew anything about the songs or the controversy.

It was due diligence before a release.

I can't believe people are advocating the buying of fake albums on twitter like it is the be and all and end all of Michael's legacy.

different people consider michael's legacy to be different things. Some people do not want Michael to have low sales numbers and media start to portray him like he's forgotten , no longer king of pop etc. You also need to understand that extreme reaction of doubters - such as let's boycott everything from sony / estate- creates this counter - let's buy everything- stand. If people have been in the middle such as - I bought the 7 songs as mp3 but didn't buy the other 3 - there wouldn't have been an issue in that regard.

 

[StellaJackson]

They had no problem naming others in the statement so why not the musicologists? And if they couldn't name them then they could have at least provided more information about the tests. Also, how do you know for a fact it was the Jacksons who identified Jason and specifically which Jackson? Teddy Riley also said he wasn't confident.

The very fact that they had to perform such tests and contact Jason's manager should have been enough of a warning not to use the songs. It isn't like there is no other material. There is plenty of non Cascio material that is far better. Those of us who have heard it can attest to that. The fact is that if the Cascio tracks had never been released then there would not have been this controversy.

 

[ivy]

They had no problem naming others in the statement so why not the musicologists? And if they couldn't name them then they could have at least provided more information about the tests. Also, how do you know for a fact it was the Jacksons who identified Jason and specifically which Jackson? Teddy Riley also said he wasn't confident.

musicologists are somewhat special in this regard because if there have been a trial, they would have been expert witnesses. Protecting their identity to protect them from witness intimidation etc makes sense.

Read 3T's twitter message. They immediately mentioned impersonators and Malachi. It's no brainer where the Malachi was introduced.

The very fact that they had to perform such tests and contact Jason's manager should have been enough of a warning not to use the songs.

why not use them if the top experts in the area came back to you with confident results saying that it's Michael? Why throw away your investment or the chance for more songs more releases?

and do you really think it's smart to have posts about how you heard unreleased material?

 

[azsummergirl]

the estate has given me absolutely no reason to believe them. All i have to go on is the way the songs sound (i.e. nothing like the michael i've listened to my entire life).

As far as i'm concerned, the comparisons people like tpimaster and pentum have made are about a billion time more legitimate than the estate's "comparitive analysis". Why? Because i've actually seen and heard the comparisons that the fans have made. i'll believe actual tangible comparisons over the promise of invisible comparative analysis any day.

they say they care about the fans. if that's true why do i feel completely disenchanted with everything they've done? If they DO care about us, they're doing a terrible job of showing it.

and here's the deal: it doesn't matter why they didn't share the forensic results, the fact that they didn't makes it not credible. Let's say they really did hire the best forensic musicologist in the nation. fine, that's great. Let's say that musicologist DID determine beyond a shadow of a doubt that it's michael. Ok, awesome. Let's say that they don't publish the results because they're afraid of some kind of harassment or backlash. Ok, understood. But you know what? Now, nobody cares about your analysis because you can't back it up. You can say you did it until your blue in the face, but it doesn't matter. I discovered the cure to cancer last night in my basement. I can't show you any of my results or research, but just trust me, i found it.

 

[ivy]

^^

why aren't you saying the same thing to Charles Thomson and his professional friend who allegedly has a report that says it 100% Malachi?

 

[8701girl]

#2 If the songs are proven fake Sony would be sued by everyone who bought the album for fraud and wrongful claims (In which Sony and the estate claimed they had forensic proof that the lead vocals are performed by Michael Jackson and was registered and sold as Michael Jackson).

Sony would say anything just to keep themselves out of trouble and just cause they say its true doesnt necessarily mean it is

 

[azsummergirl]

^^

why aren't you saying the same thing to Charles Thomson and his professional friend who allegedly has a report that says it 100% Malachi?

LOL i never even heard about that. so i don't know what you're talking about. Here i'll say it: that is also not credible. Happy? You know what is credible? The analyses i HAVE heard. and i consider what my own ears hear to be credible.

I'm not saying something has to be "scientific" to be credible. But if you DO claim to have something scientific, but you don't show the results--that's not credible. I'll believe it when i see it (which will be . . . never)

 

[StellaJackson]

musicologists are somewhat special in this regard because if there have been a trial, they would have been expert witnesses. Protecting their identity to protect them from witness intimidation etc makes sense.

Read 3T's twitter message. They immediately mentioned impersonators and Malachi. It's no brainer where the Malachi was introduced.



why not use them if the top experts in the area came back to you with confident results saying that it's Michael? Why throw away your investment or the chance for more songs more releases?

and do you really think it's smart to have posts about how you heard unreleased material?

Pretty much everybody here has heard unreleased material and it is discussed frequently. There are loads of unreleased Mj songs on youtube that have been there for months, years in some cases that Sony don't do a thing about. Unreleased music was played in the MJJC UStream too (If You Don't Love Me). Do you think that was smart? And 3T didn't immediately mention Malachi. In fact the only time any of them mentioned Malachi was when Taj responded to a fan who suggested Malachi and stated "sounds like Jason Malachi to me too." And clearly they shoudn't have used the songs because look at the damage and destruction that was done. The album sank and the fan community is divided. If people behind the scenes such as the family were raising concerns then common sense would have told them the fans would do too.

 

[StellaJackson]

LOL i never even heard about that. so i don't know what you're talking about. Here i'll say it: that is also not credible. Happy? You know what is credible? The analyses i HAVE heard. and i consider what my own ears hear to be credible.

I'm not saying something has to be "scientific" to be credible. But if you DO claim to have something scientific, but you don't show the results--that's not credible. I'll believe it when i see it.

I was just going to the same thing. I doubt you have ever heard of him. I'm not really interested in what he says either. The Estate on the other hand have a responsibility to protect Michael's work from potential fraud which they failed to do.

 

[azsummergirl]

^^well i've heard of charles, i follow him on twitter. i just never heard he had someone do an analysis, that's news to me

sorry to write so much about this: I, personally, do not base my opinion on scientific waveform analysis. I base my opinion on the songs sounding nothing like michael, and exactly like jason (to me). i don't care what ANYONE says--not the estate, not seth riggs, not michael's kids, not 3t, not anyone in here--no one.

because the believers can find absolutely nothing to back up their feelings from the songs themselves (prove me wrong), they seem to place a lot of faith in the forensic analysis alluded to in the estate's statement. So it would seem to me, that people who stand strongly behind the statement would agree that scientific, forensic science is important and credible.

but if you think that the science of it is so important, then you should have a huge problem with the fact that you've never actually seen the research. the very definition of science is coming up with a theory, and then backing it up with proof. i know musicology is a science, because it has "ology" on the end. so if for you, that analysis is the be-all-end-all of this whole controversy, you SHOULD have a problem with not seeing anything to back it up. That's not science.

I personally do not really care about the forensic analysis, because i don't even see how that's necessary. but if that IS important to you, then you're basing your belief on a completely uncredible statement that is, by definition, not scientific.

 

[8701girl]

Yup, they're like, 'Jackpot!'...They'll continue to keep doing it cuz they've gotten away with it...

Excatly!

 

[BUMPER SNIPPET]

Never going to happen. The only reason they don't name them is because they'll be harassed to death.

That's speculation Ivy. If they provide the full report and organize a Q&A session, there wouldn't be any reason for any harassement.

Well other people involved did get harassed don't you remember? There have been quite a lot of libel / slander / defamation, people have been tweeted curses and hate and threats, Malachi got hacked, mockery videos, people's heads on goats, boycotts and even protests. So it's quite valid.

I am not excusing the harassement, but have you ever wondered why? The harassement has been triggered because there is no information about anything.

If they had clearly shown the report, named those experts, explained what matched in the waveform with what, why they believe it is not an impostor backed with scientific findings, what acappella or parts were analysed and compared with what other previosu MJ's songs, if they had contacted Seth Riggs and have him give his opinion too, then I don't see a single reason for anyone to harrass. On the contrary the cited harrassement by you would have been probably inexistent.

The harassement is provoked by the lack of data, not by unveiling the data to the fan community.

Oh and Charles Thomson who claims to see an expert test that says 100% Malachi is not disclosing it because he believes lunatics (meaning believers) is going to harass the person.

Well, be it Charles Thomson or the Estate/SONY, as long as they say "I have the proof, but I am not showing it", they are on the same boat, and understandably people will be as much sceptical with what he says as with what the Estate/SONY says.

I know you never accept this but the expert contacted by max-jax said he couldn't compare it to Malachi because it would be leading.
Also they could have seen issues with the songs - if any - without the need of Malachi acapellas. For example the points when you believe to be so obvious would have given major not matching results, as well as overall low possibilities. So even without Malachi acapella's they would have been able to identify that there's a problem.

There is nothing wrong with "leading". Indeed, if that "leading" makes them doubt, then either their objective scientific method is all but scientific (scientifically it cannot be both MJ and JM), or their analysis is based only on MJ's waveforms reading with enough room for a huge error margin, since theyr are afraid of being "led" concept.

If I asked someone to drink sparkling water and tell him it was flat water, well I don't see how it ever could be leading, the drinker would obviously contradict me and said that it was not flat water, but sparkling water.


Furthermore, with the Cascio songs, I don't see how it could be leading. That's sounds more as an excuse than as a concern to obtain an expert opinion about the controversy. Scientifically speaking we have three samples to compare, not two:

Sample1) -MJ's acappellas
Sample2) -JM's acappellas
Sample3) -Cascio acappellas

After comparing those 3 samples with each other, how on Earth could it be leading? Nobody asked not to include MJ's acappellas in the comparisons. It's as crucial as comparing:

Sample1) Sparkling water
Sample2) Flat water
Sample3) My sparkling water (that I claim to be flat)

Reaction IMO. For example discovery autopsy show or cardiff tribute was able to raise a high and combined voice among the fans. We opened the thread to public however who has been posting has not changed. So little reaction now shows that either people are believers or have moved on from this issue.

No reaction doesn't mean people are believers or that they moved on. All it shows is the absence of people to that thread. The absence of people may be justified by as many reasons as there are absent people. I personally don't go to every and each forum, thread, etc, it doesn't mean that I don't exist as a doubter or that I moved on. However, I see many doubters reactions on youtube than inhere.

Jacksons

Well the doubters had no idea the Jacksons identified the soundalike as Jason Malachi. The fans recognized JM's voice without being told by anyone that it was JM.

It was due diligence before a release.

Where is the critical reasoning now? Fine for due diligence. How about their report in which they say: "in order to be absolutely certain"? They are not talking about due diligence, you are interpreting it that way. But I say, ok, let it be due diligence. Now, how about contacting Seth Riggs "in order to be absolutely certain"?

different people consider michael's legacy to be different things. Some people do not want Michael to have low sales numbers and media start to portray him like he's forgotten , no longer king of pop etc. You also need to understand that extreme reaction of doubters - such as let's boycott everything from sony / estate- creates this counter - let's buy everything- stand. If people have been in the middle such as - I bought the 7 songs as mp3 but didn't buy the other 3 - there wouldn't have been an issue in that regard.

Oh, I don't think it is wise to reject the responsibility on the fans. The Estate's/SONY strategy to include those songs depite being warned contributed to all this mess. Their strategy simply sucks without MJ being alive.

They could have either hold back those songs until they have more proof than reading waveforms, or publish the maximum info they have, including the reports, giving the names of the experts etc. In other words, if they were really concerned they would do much more than the minimum (their word).

I believe despite many doubters present here, people did buy the album or at least legally downloaded the 7 songs. I don't know which fan wouldn't want to have the remaining 7 songs.

The fact is, they did the strict minimum to cover their own ass, and don't really care about the fans as they claimed in the report. Smoke and mirrors.

 

[BUMPER SNIPPET]

musicologists are somewhat special in this regard because if there have been a trial, they would have been expert witnesses. Protecting their identity to protect them from witness intimidation etc makes sense.

It doesn't make sense, because teh Estate/SONY know their identity. What if the analyses were the opposite of what the Estate/SONY expected? How'd they protect their identity from the Etsate/SONY's potential intimidation? (If we speculate that they could be intimidated by the ones, we could speculate and say that they could be intimidated by the others too).

However, the speculation aside, the truth of the matter is that usually forensics don't hide their identity. Here are some examples:

http://www.forensicmusicologist.com/

http://www.expertsearch.co.uk/cgi-bin/find_expert?3272

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/joe-hudson/b/743/b7b

http://www.expertwitness.com/prof/753.htm

http://www.expertwitness.com/prof/13736.htm

Read 3T's twitter message. They immediately mentioned impersonators and Malachi. It's no brainer where the Malachi was introduced.

Well after reading 3T's messages, I thought the fans unveiled the identity of the soundalike to him and not he to the fans.

why not use them if the top experts in the area came back to you with confident results saying that it's Michael? Why throw away your investment or the chance for more songs more releases?

If you use them, you don't give only your word, you show the proof to the concerned public. Nowhere in the report they state actually that the forensics wished to keep their anonimity. And as I proved in this post, they unveil their identity and their résumé. It would be a good reference for them for their résumé to have worked for SONY/the Estate. Hiding themselves actually makes no sense, and I am saying this as a forensic myself.

 

[Chamife]

Sony/The Estate have the official reports from the experts in their possession.

If we want to see it, we have to contact them first, not the experts. The experts can't publish a thing without Sony's/The Estate's permission (from what I understand from this http://www.ams-net.org/administration/ethics.php)

@Ivy
I don't think the experts will be harassed. We've seen Michael's autopsy report with names from the medical examiner, we've seen the insurance-policy with names of different insurers. We've seen all kinds of official documents without fans harassing the people who's name was mentioned on them.

They were hired to do their jobs and it's about their findings. No one can possibly have anything against that.

 

[Korgnex]

^ These reports are only public because they were part of a PUBLIC criminal trial (People of the State of California vs. Conrad Robert Murray) and a PUBLIC lawsuit subject to private law (Lloyds vs. AEG Live/The Michael Jackson Estate).

 

[BUMPER SNIPPET]

^ These reports are only public because they were part of a PUBLIC criminal trial (People of the State of California vs. Conrad Robert Murray) and a PUBLIC lawsuit subject to private law (Lloyds vs. AEG Live/The Michael Jackson Estate).

Regardless of that, wouldn't you be also more reassured to actually see the forensics' reports rather than being left with the choice to take their word for it?

 

[BottleOfSmoke]

If people have been in the middle such as - I bought the 7 songs as mp3 but didn't buy the other 3 - there wouldn't have been an issue in that regard.

That would've been very convenient for the estate and sony. The problem is they would've bragged about excellent sales while never mentioning that these numbers concern only 7 songs and not the controversial ones. Being in the middle would mean we eat everything they serve us: lies, absence of any valuable proof, silence regarding any of our claims or questions, disrespect of us as MJ fans and in big part as their future financial insurance. In my humble opinion, this would rather hurt Michael's legacy than help it.

One day they'll really need us, and then we'll talk. Meanwhile, we try to do our best to defend someone we sincerely love and respect unlike them for who Michael is just one of many other milk cows.

 

[ADKIc3mAnX]

That would be very convenient for the estate and sony. The problem is while bragging about good sales they would have never mentioned that these numbers concern only 7 songs and not the controversial ones. Being in the middle would mean we eat everything they serve us: lies, absence of any valuable proof, silence regarding any of our claims or questions, disrespect of us as Michael Jackson fans and in big part as their future financial insurance. In my humble opinion, this would rather hurt Michael's legacy than help it.

One day they'll really need us, and then we'll talk. Meanwhile, we try to do our best to defend someone we sincerely love and respect unlike them for who Michael is just one of many other milk cows.

They're not bragging about sales of anything they are just letting people know that "Michael" was the Global #1 album of 2010 and has a platinum status of 26.

 

[T.N.A.]

^^A failure, by Michael Jackson's standards.

The name Michael Jackson and the fact that it was his first posthumous release helped in selling all those copies, not the content of the album itself. The release itself isn't that impressive no matter how you look at it and quite frankly, I agree with the people who gave it 2/5 stars.

 

[BUMPER SNIPPET]

^^A failure, by Michael Jackson's standards.

The name Michael Jackson and the fact that it was his first posthumous release helped in selling all those copies, not the content of the album itself. The release itself isn't that impressive no matter how you look at it and quite frankly, I agree with the people who gave it 2/5 stars.

Well I'd give a 7/7stars

 

[Chamife]

^ These reports are only public because they were part of a PUBLIC criminal trial (People of the State of California vs. Conrad Robert Murray) and a PUBLIC lawsuit subject to private law (Lloyds vs. AEG Live/The Michael Jackson Estate).

The examples I mentioned was to indicate that not every expert on an official document (public or not) is harassed by Michael's fans. They would have a day job doing that..

 

[BUMPER SNIPPET]

Here, please read this article and compare the situation to ours:



Article Overview: Nearly thirty four years after The King’s death, a new song has been discovered and confirmed forensically to be Elvis Presley himself. Ed Primeau was contacted by WWMT TV 3, the CBS affiliate in Kalamazoo and Grand Rapids Michigan, to use his voice identification expertise to confirm the song is genuine..





New Elvis Song Discovered

Nearly thirty four years after The King’s death, a new song has been discovered and confirmed forensically to be the king himself, Elvis Presley. Ed Primeau was contacted by Mike Chesney of WWMT TV 3, the CBS affiliate in Kalamazoo and Grand Rapids Michigan, to use his voice identification expertise to confirm the song is genuine.

Ed Primeau is president of Primeau Productions, Inc. based out of Rochester Hills, Michigan, as well as a well-respected audio and video forensic expert.

The TV crew arrived about 10 am last Tuesday and gave Ed the three versions of the song “Living to Love You” which was written by a deceased Grand Rapids resident and performed by Elvis Presley. The crew filmed Ed’s forensic investigation and then interviewed him about his conclusion.

Ed’s theory is that while in the Detroit area in 1976, Elvis had an interest in this song whose lyrics made their way to the King prior to his visit. According to Primeau, “Elvis liked the song and recorded a demo, which is what we have in these recordings.”

The three versions are vocals and piano only and do not sound like an Elvis song, which may be a huge reason why the song was not recorded and released. Primeau referred the film crew to Gary Graff, an icon rock journalist and Billbord magazine columnist who is a friend of Primeau’s and local Metro Detroit Area resident. He also confirmed the song to be Elvis himself. Graff also commented on Primea's forensic credentials and conclusion in the video interview.

There are three criteria for conducting voice identification: critical listening skills, electronic measurement and visual inspection of the sound wave. “Living to Love You” was compared to two other Elvis songs recorded around the same time that served as an exemplar of Elvis Presley’s voice. The vocal tone, vibrato and style of singing is an identical match to Elvis Presley.

Traditionally, a voice identification test includes the forensic expert making an exemplar of the person in questions voice to compare with the recording in question. Since Elvis is dead, Primeau used the two songs the TV crew provided and he agreed on them as exemplars.

Primeau noted the vibrato resonance and style matched Elvis Presley’s. Primeau went further and downloaded a sample of an Elvis impersonator from the Internet and compared that voice to the recordings in question. Using digital spectrograph technology, Primeau compared the two known Elvis songs, the three takes of “Living to Love You”, the impersonator and a Neil Diamond song. The spectrographic readings confirmed Primeau’s opinion and displayed the obvious results for the TV crew.

The significance of this new song by Elvis Presley is that it will stimulate fan interest in existing Elvis material and fetch a generous amount of money at auction, should that ever happen. It has been a long time since the king released any material and his estate Graceland is yet to comment on the discovery.



source:
http://www.evancarmichael.com/Marketing/5504/New-Elvis-Song-Discovered.html#author

I am sorry, but I don't see ANY of this in the Estate's report. The Estate's report compared to this article is a JOKE!

 

[BUMPER SNIPPET]

About the forensic (who didn't see any reason why would he hide his identity):

About the Author: Edward Primeau
RSS for Edward's articles - Visit Edward's website

(800) 647-4281
Ed Primeau began his career in multimedia in 1979. As an engineer in the music industry, Ed has worked with renowned recording artists like Anita Baker, Bob Seger and Barry Manilow. In the early 1980s, Mr. Primeau developed a music industry marketing niche, hosting album release parties for major label record companies.
In 1984, Ed founded www.PrimeauProductions.com a full-service video production and Internet marketing company specializing in creative video and social media marketing campaigns. Ed volunteers for charities and organizations throughout the world including the national Speakers Association Foundation http://www.nsafoundation.org/ .
Ed is also a presenter to Notre Dame University.
In addition, Ed is also a respected audio visual forensics expert engaged in many law cases throughout the United States and Canada.
Ed is the author of “The Art of Production ” a book about multimedia production including techniques, pre to post production time and money saving ideas and techniques as well as packaging and marketing multimedia products.
Ed is also a contributing author for "Advance Selling for Dummies". He has been published in many newspapers and magazines including the Wall Street Journal http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2009/08/11/pynchon-revealed/.
Primeau Productions, LLC is working with The Napoleon Hill Foundation restoring films of Dr. Hill for future release. Primeau Productions, Inc is actively involved with production, publishing and promotion. Digital Internet campaigns for clients throughout the world. www.PrimeauProductions.com and blog www.VideoProductionPrimeau.com

source: http://www.evancarmichael.com/Marketing/5504/New-Elvis-Song-Discovered.html#author

 

[BottleOfSmoke]

They're not bragging about sales of anything they are just letting people know that "Michael" was the Global #1 album of 2010 and has a platinum status of 26.

I meant sales numbers that could have been achieved if we decided to be in the middle and buy only 7 songs.

 

[Arklove]

Nice finds, Bumpy