How do you know nobody acted on it? Do you know many of us stop using MJJC as our platform to spread our words? Do you know many of us are united our efforts in private to see what can be done?
You know why we don't want to promote our ideas here? Your response to Bumper answered it. There is simply no room for any kind of discussion between the believers and doubters. Bumper has never forced his opinon on anyone. He bascially said if united, we can achieve more. We could have demanded the Estate and Sony to be more transparent in their communications. We could have asked them to release projects that upholds to Michael's artistic standard - a standard the perfectionist spent his whole life to build.
More transparecy and more integrity are common goals that all Michael Jackson fans want. It doesn't matter whether you like the Cascio tracks or not. It doesn't matter whether you believe the Cascio tracks are genuine or not.
But, nowadays, it seems a taboo to even mention the word "Cascio". Just take a look to your own initial reaction to Bumper's post.
What he said in his post that irks you so much that you don't even want him to continue? Is it because Bumper is one of the most vocal "doubters"?
My initial reaction to Bumper's post was negative not because of the word "Cascio", I have no problem with people discussing these songs, I have no problem with doubters trying to prove the vocals are fake etc. I reacted that way because in that particular thread is was off-topic and it became a pattern that the doubters bring the Cascio discussion in other threads that have nothing to do with the album and the threads get derailed. And I can understand why it happens - when people are passionate about something, when they think about it all the time, when it upsets them, they are trying to find a solution and in order to find a solution these things should be discussed. And people get carried away and start discussing it everywhere. I understand that, I truly do. But at the same time you also should understand that other topics might be important too. Like the Aaron Carter situation. And it's better to discuss these issues separately to avoid confusion.
Then you should discuss it in the debate thread with us. We don't bite
If you lurk often enough, then the topic is of interest to you, no? Without both sides fighting, we're virtually helpless. Doubters AND believers have buried their heads in the sand about this situation.
I don't really come here to discuss....
I come to check if people have propably found some proof that would convince me that it's not Michael, or if people have started some actual campaign. But so far I haven't seen anything of the kind...
To be honest with you, MJJC and Max Jax are not the only places where we communicate with each other. Many of us communicated among ourselves in private. How can we be "loud" when we are being portrayed in such negative light?
Don't get me wrong here. I sincerely thank all the fans for their efforts in drafting and sending the letter. But, this whole Aaron Carter fiasco is just a desperate publicity stunt by a former teen singer. Actually, media has shown very limited interest in this whole thing. May be it's overshadowed by the Casey Anthony trial here in the U.S.
My point is false claims like the one started by Aaron Carter, while despicable, can no longer cause any substantial or longlasting damage. People who are enlightened and knew the truth would never believe in Aaron Carter. People who are ignorant will not see the light. This is just yet another tabloid junk.
Fans can be united to defend Michael against tabloid. Why can't fans be united to defend Michael against misrepresentation of his arts?
Probably because when it comes to accusations like this it involves Michael the person, which is much more important than Michael the musician, at least to me. And it attracts more fans who want to protect Michael's reputation and good name. I don't agree with you that Carter's words won't matter, I think it's a horrible situation that should be addressed and I am glad that the fans have done so.
As for the Cascio tracks, you are saying yourself that you mostly discuss this privately. Then how do you expect fans to join your campaign when no one knows about it? Perhaps there are a lot of people who would like to sign a petition or mail a letter etc, but there is no petition or a letter to sign. Like I said before, there should be a person or a group of people who will lead this campaign. Just like it happened with the Carter letter - there were several people who coordinated everything while the rest of us just came into a thread saying "Good job guys, let me know what I can do, I will do anything you say!" People in general really need to be told what to do
That's why you need someone who will organize everybody.
And I don't agree with you that you can't discuss these things on MJJC (don't know about MaxJack because I have been there for a short time and don't have a feel of that forum yet). You are saying that there is a lot of negativity towards you, but - and please don't take it the wrong way, I don't want to offend anyone!!!! - when I read the discussion as an outsider so to say, it's obvious to me, that if a person gets banned that's not because they are pro-Cascio but because they are being really rude. Or when a video gets deleted, it's not because it's a proof of Malachi vocals and the powers that be want to hide it, but because it's a simple violation of copyright laws. And the doubters being overly sensitive about the whole matter (which is absolutely understandable), think they are being repressed.
Sorry, it's a long post, I don't usually write that much, and there might be mistakes, sorry for that. Just want to stress again, that I didn't want to offend anyone and I am sorry if I have!
