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Michael - The Great Album Debate

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I present you Arklove and Loveismagical, my bodyguards:

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MJ's bodyguard?

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BUMPER SNIPPET said:
I present you Arklove and Loveismagical, my bodyguards:

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Yes, we are here to protect you from the swarms of women who want to tear that sexy thong off of you...:lol:

@ love is magical .....deeper :naughty:
 
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This morning when I woke up I realized all was a dream:

 
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Arklove said:
Yes, we are here to protect you from the swarms of women who want to tear that sexy thong off of you...:lol:

@ love is magical .....deeper :naughty:
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faster and harder too... :naughty::naughty:

BUMPER SNIPPET said:
Did you hack my computer? This is my private picture.
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you look great in jeans! :stars:
 
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Pretty soon this thread will have an 18+ or X-rated disclaimer. :D Just kidding, but I wouldn't be surprised at this point.
 
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Arklove said:
Uh, because of what our ears hear?

Again, as we've stated plenty of times...Who cares WHO is singing on the tracks? All that matters is that it's not Mike..It may not be Jason, but it sure as hell sounds like him, and NOT Michael...It's not as if Jason denying his participation on these songs changes what I hear!
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Senses can be deceiving, if you put a stick in water it looks bent right? but is it? no, what i'm saying is our senses are never more than 60% accurate, and our hearing on songs that have music, editing etc can not be an accurate factor, and hence, we can only figure out the truth with our heads, Sony, has absolutely NO motive for putting fake tracks on the album, and if someone says "its about the MONEY" again i think i will lose my limited sanity, Michael (2010) has not even sold a quater of the CD's it shipped, and thus-far has COST Sony money.

Sony aint stupid, which is why they tested the songs authenticity, it was for THEM not for us, THEY purchased the songs from the Cascio's, and because the Cascio's were not publicly known to have been close to Michael Jackson, how can they be 100% sure that they are getting their Money's worth?

Unless of course someone is willing to suggest that Sony have been duped by a family who records music in their bathroom...
 
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BUMPER SNIPPET said:
Michael = Michael (Michael always sounds Michael, even when he doesn't want to, see Ghosts, The Wiz, ... or when he is processed, see 2000 Watts, ...)

Jason = Jason (Jason always sounds Jason, even when he imitates Michael, you can hear it is not Michael, hence it is Jason)

Jason ~ Michael (Jason doesn't sound Michael, but Jason sounds like Michael when he imitates him)

Michael X Jason (Michael always sounds Michael and Michael always sounds like Michael, Michael never sounds Jason, Michael never sounds like Jason, as Michael never tries to imitate anyone, hence you immediately recognize his voiceprint).

Cascio tracks ~ Michael (Just like Jason, the Cascio tracks sound like Michael, but doesn't sound Michael. Given the fact that Michael's voiceprint is immediately recognizable, the doubts remain within the Cascio tracks as Michael's voiceprint isn't immediately recognizable, hence debate, questions, and tutti quanti).
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Haha, i love how you non believers state this over and over, screw this, im making my own comparison video, and i'll show you what i mean by only CERTAIN parts being the same... Oh and for the record, i believe (im being serious) that Best Of Joy and Hollywood Tonight are FAKE! They sound nothing like Michael, they both sound like Jason Malachi with a bad cold
 
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The Cascio songs are not sung by Michael Jackson.
Best of Joy and Hollywood Tonight are sung by Michael Jackson.
 
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larry141094 said:
Senses can be deceiving, if you put a stick in water it looks bent right? but is it? no, what i'm saying is our senses are never more than 60% accurate, and our hearing on songs that have music, editing etc can not be an accurate factor, and hence, we can only figure out the truth with our heads, Sony, has absolutely NO motive for putting fake tracks on the album, and if someone says "its about the MONEY" again i think i will lose my limited sanity, Michael (2010) has not even sold a quater of the CD's it shipped, and thus-far has COST Sony money.
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Every time you put a wooden stick in water, it will every time look as a bent woodend stick in water. Everytime when I listen to Michael, it every time sounds Michael.

However, every time you put a wooden stick in water it never looks as a bent metallic rod. If your logic, however, can accept this latter, then it is easy to understand why you accept that Michael sounds as Jason on Cascio tracks.

If you don't know the motives, it doesn't mean there are no motives. Don't worry, those who have motives will make you believe they don't have motives.

larry141094 said:
Sony aint stupid,
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Agree, they ain't stupid, why would they invest in promoting this album, when they know they can sell it without promotion and benefit from the larger margin.

larry141094 said:
which is why they tested the songs authenticity, it was for THEM not for us,
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Exactly, and to quote Michael: "They don't care about us".
They don't care if we hear Michael or not, all they do care is if the product is sellable. They got the green light.

larry141094 said:
THEY purchased the songs from the Cascio's, and because the Cascio's were not publicly known to have been close to Michael Jackson, how can they be 100% sure that they are getting their Money's worth?
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Oops, too bad for SONY if they got duped. That'll teach 'em. Yet, they won't invest in further promotion if they got duped, that's for sure. They'll get back their money on the long run anyway. They have nothing to worry about, they have the green light from the musicologists.

larry141094 said:
Unless of course someone is willing to suggest that Sony have been duped by a family who records music in their bathroom...
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Well, when SONY announces that after ten years of studio album absence they streamed the wrong mix (in order to test the general public's reaction which was immediately perceived by 9/10 people as all but authenthic) they surely can get duped by people recording music in their bathroom. As long as they don't care about us and as long as they know that they can sell it, it's all good..




larry141094 said:
Haha, i love how you non believers state this over and over, screw this,
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Is that your strong argument? "Screw this?" Ok, I accept your comment. Then, you will have to do the same with my next comment.

larry141094 said:
im making my own comparison video, and i'll show you what i mean by only CERTAIN parts being the same... Oh and for the record, i believe (im being serious) that Best Of Joy and Hollywood Tonight are FAKE! They sound nothing like Michael, they both sound like Jason Malachi with a bad cold
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Screw this.
 
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larry141094 said:
Ok it's obvious all you do is pick out statements and insult them, so you obviously cant have an intelligent debate, i think it's obvious at this point that your glued to what you believe, i for one needed to move around a bit before i was ABSOLUTLY sure, put the 3 cascio tracks amongst other MJ songs of similar genres, and do the same with Jason Malachi songs, trust me after just 2 replays of both playlists, i was convinced that it's Michael, and to be perfectly honest, his voice was always changing because of the plastic surgery he was having/the drugs he was taking, for all you know he may not have even warmed up his voice, i dont understand why people can't accept that it's Michael without the magic and with a bunch of over editing, because that's all it is.
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Look who's talking.
 
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I bet the tracks were faked by Illuminati.Over-night they got into the producer's studio and screwed up Michael's voice and then told them that they will kill them if they will say any word about it.
 
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Oh, yeah!
 
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larry141094 said:
Of COURSE! My ears haven't failed me yet, i bet thats why this whole Cascio mess happened, Sony's trying to distract you from the REAL fakes!
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A: Clean your ears out, BOJ & HT are MJ seems you are looking to 'cause a stir
B: Seems you are baiting for an argument can we keep this "proper" please. I dont want to have to go thru here deleting posts, and this goes for everyone else. this is a mass debate not a mass argument :rofl:
 
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larry141094 said:
Ok it's obvious all you do is pick out statements and insult them, so you obviously cant have an intelligent debate, i think it's obvious at this point that your glued to what you believe, i for one needed to move around a bit before i was ABSOLUTLY sure, put the 3 cascio tracks amongst other MJ songs of similar genres, and do the same with Jason Malachi songs, trust me after just 2 replays of both playlists, i was convinced that it's Michael, and to be perfectly honest, his voice was always changing because of the plastic surgery he was having/the drugs he was taking, for all you know he may not have even warmed up his voice, i dont understand why people can't accept that it's Michael without the magic and with a bunch of over editing, because that's all it is.
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You are the one who can't have an intelligent debate. You presented your so-called logic and forced it onto others. When others present more valid arguments against your logic, you went ballistic and personal. You attack Bumper because he doesn't agree with you and notes the holes in your logic. Unlike you, Bumper presents his argument in a very detail and reasonably manner. It seems you have problem in admitting the faults in your logic and start accusing others for being insulting.

Now, please do me a favor, please educate yourself more on Michael Jackson. I mean not getting information from tabloids, but valid sources. To say that his voice changed all the times due to surgeries and drugs is one of the most ridiculous thing I have heard. How do you explain Hold My Hand and This Is It rehearsal? He didn't have his first rhinoplasty in 2007.

I don't know if you have read the following post, or you simply choose to ignore it. You'll see just what seems to be the truth is not always the truth.

BUMPER SNIPPET said:
Before I answer your questions, as you requested, answer few of my questions

-Do you believe the Japanese government's official statement that the radiation from the nuclear plant's explosion is not dangerous at this stage for the population (would you be at ease living in the surroundings) or do you believe your common sense which probably questions the government's statement? (Can you prove it? Can you go on trial? What would be the outcome?)
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larry, I agree with a lot of the points you make but saying BoJ and HT aren't Michael... that's kind of sad.

You do know there's evidence that Michael recorded Hollywood Tonight, right? There's lots of it. And even of Best of Joy. And they're both wonderfully beautiful songs.

They are 100% Michael Jackson, no doubt whatsoever, completely positive.
 
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larry141094 said:
Nope, my ears do not hear Michael on those two songs, i KNOW what he sounds like, and thats not him
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:mello: No wonder you believe the Cascio tracks are real.
 
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When I read larry's posts and he says something like BOJ being fake I really hope he's just kidding or his credibility is completely out the window. :(

Unfortunately, when he says he's completely serious, my brain is like "?????????????"

I think this could be a good case of trolling, however. Looking closely at larry, he comes across as a complete Michael album supporter(look at his signature), yet says the Cascio controversy is to distract from the "REAL fakes." This seems like classic trolling to me. Seems he's just messing with the conspiracy peoples in this thread. If he thought Best of Joy and Hollywood Tonight were really fakes, why would he have that slogan for supporting the album in his signature? Something fishy about that.
 
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Aniram said:
When I read larry's posts and he says something like BOJ being fake I really hope he's just kidding or his credibility is completely out the window. :(

Unfortunately, when he says he's completely serious, my brain is like "?????????????"
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I really am trying to be patient with this one, but to no avail.
 
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Read the edit to my post above, do you also think there's something fishy about this guy? Even his name is a little out there. :lol: Nothing against you, larry, I'm just referencing all the numbers in your username that I can't even bother to type when I respond to you(maybe it's your birthday or something?).

Now, I'm not saying larry is always a troll or anything and not a fan of Michael Jackson, please don't take it that way. However, it seems like he's hardcore joking to himself without letting us in on it, which kind of fits signs of a troll to me.
 
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Aniram said:
When I read larry's posts and he says something like BOJ being fake I really hope he's just kidding or his credibility is completely out the window. :(

Unfortunately, when he says he's completely serious, my brain is like "?????????????"

I think this could be a good case of trolling, however. Looking closely at larry, he comes across as a complete Michael album supporter(look at his signature), yet says the Cascio controversy is to distract from the "REAL fakes." This seems like classic trolling to me. Seems he's just messing with the conspiracy peoples in this thread. If he thought Best of Joy and Hollywood Tonight were really fakes, why would he have that slogan for supporting the album in his signature? Something fishy about that.
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Arklove said:
I really am trying to be patient with this one, but to no avail.
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At first, I thought it's a sarcastic remark. He got me confused.

People can claim whatever they want, but whether there is any merit to their claim is another story. If someone said Best of Joy is fake, he/she may claim Billie Jean is sung by an alien from Mars that look like Michael Jackson next. :doh:
 
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Who says, in one sentence, that there's no reason to fake tracks, and in the next says there are REAL fakes on the album? What is a 'real fake' anyway? :D :p
 
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Don't be naive guys, Larry knows it is MJ on those tracks. He's trying to 'prove' to us that anyone can doubt any track by simply saying "my ears don't recognize Michael's voice". The problem is that he doesn't take into account a very important factor, a huge number of people doubt the vocals on the Cascio tracks, whereas both Cascio-doubters and Cascio-believers agree MJ sings HT & BOJ. He simply doesn't (want to) see the flaws in his logic.

If Larry wants to believe that BOJ and HT is not MJ, let him believe so, he may create a thread and would probably be alone in it.
 
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