Michael Jackson killed by the Illuminati ?

[myfavouritewintercoat]

Good question, quite complicated to explain as it is very complicated, the illuminati means the illuminated or the enlightened, except IMO I don't think they are very enlightened. It was a secret society that began in the 1770s but has now become global secret society controlling world affairs, it involves many powerful people around the world they are above governments, control governments and corporations. They want a New World order. I refer to them as tptb and when I use that I don't mean the government or governments, I mean literally the powers that be whoever they are.

In my opinion it does exist there are many very good researchers on the subject, lots of books on the subject and some videos on youtube. Not all of them agree on everything. I agree that is not a good idea to dwell too much on it but be aware of it. Everytime people get into arguments on religion and politics they are feeding the illuminati, this is what they want. When people stop doing that, the illuminati power will be gone. It has helped me remember the importance of love and unity.

The illuminati is not very positive, and it is more positive and powerful to remember Michaels message of love and unity and I do think he was aware of it and what Michael stood for was the opposite of the illuminati.

Very well said

 

[Julia55]

I don't live in America and the Illuminati wants to control the world
It's really shocking to see how many of the media is part of the state or banks , part of highly respected businessmen who show up at the Illuminati meetings , etc...

Ofcouse I know a lot of people don't wanna believe this because this is very heartbreaking to know this world is being controlled .

I don't wanna be a robot because that's what they are doing if you don't want to believe it just look around you , everywhere is cameras, they've created software to find out where your friends are via mobile phone , people are tapping of phone conversations , you don't know how much the world wide web is being controlled and you never know who can see what you are doing whenever you're online .

The computer is a great invention but it's VERY dangerous because it connects people worldwide and there is a brand new market for the Illuminati .
Look at Facebook & Twitter . Why is this so succesfull ... because people are way very curious . The Illuminati wants globalism and their plan is working very well .

The news you see on television is no news because it's selected by the channel .
The violence and crime went very low the last couple of years but when I watch the news it gives me the feeling I'm not safe anymore on any street anywhere .
Only brainwashed people will not believe or consider there is an Illuminati . This is the truth .

I agree with you to some extent and when I first discovered what the Illuminati were about I went through a stage of depression because I felt completely powerless. I researched further and further though to try and find a positive angle somewhere and eventually I did. From what I've seen recently the internet is actually the Illuminati's worst nightmare because as much as they try, they CANNOT control what people are putting on the web. More and more people are exposing them with videos on You tube, articles, websites, documentaries etc. It's all there for people to see and more and more people are becoming aware everyday, I think the Illuminati's days are numbered.

As our King once sang 'There's nothing that can't be done if we raise our voice as one'. Positive energy works against the Illuminati and that's where Michael's plans for healing the world may have rocked their applecart somewhat. What we can do is continue to spread Michael's message.

 

[killa.bee]

I agree with you to some extent and when I first discovered what the Illuminati were about I went through a stage of depression because I felt completely powerless. I researched further and further though to try and find a positive angle somewhere and eventually I did. From what I've seen recently the internet is actually the Illuminati's worst nightmare because as much as they try, they CANNOT control what people are putting on the web. More and more people are exposing them with videos on You tube, articles, websites, documentaries etc. It's all there for people to see and more and more people are becoming aware everyday, I think the Illuminati's days are numbered.

As our King once sang 'There's nothing that can't be done if we raise our voice as one'. Positive energy works against the Illuminati and that's where Michael's plans for healing the world may have rocked their applecart somewhat. What we can do is continue to spread Michael's message.

Trust me when I tell you that the internet will lose its freedom very soon .
There are no rules on the internet but the internet is very easy to control . Don't be surprised when someday you can't post nothing about the Illuminati on YouTube anymore. It's just a matter of time , the world wide web is still developing and growing every single day .

Maybe I'm paranoia but I think someday they will use things we do right now on the internet against us in the future for example the fact that a whole bunch of people is downloading music and there is nothing wrong with that . If you get something for free why would you pay for it unless it's really worth it ? So what a possible and typical thing is for the Illuminati is sending out fines to pay for what we download right now just to get more money . Don't think they will leave the internet like this .

Just look how secure Paypal became and how much money they rip off from their users .

It goes faster then you can imagine but we don't keep that in mind
Next year there is the release of the 3D television while if you were living a 1000 years from now they would kill you if you would say something like that .

 

[Julia55]

Trust me when I tell you that the internet will lose its freedom very soon .
There are no rules on the internet but the internet is very easy to control . Don't be surprised when someday you can't post nothing about the Illuminati on YouTube anymore. It's just a matter of time , the world wide web is still developing and growing every single day .

Maybe I'm paranoia but I think someday they will use things we do right now on the internet against us in the future for example the fact that a whole bunch of people is downloading music and there is nothing wrong with that . If you get something for free why would you pay for it unless it's really worth it ? So what a possible and typical thing is for the Illuminati is sending out fines to pay for what we download right now just to get more money . Don't think they will leave the internet like this .

Just look how secure Paypal became and how much money they rip off from their users .

It goes faster then you can imagine but we don't keep that in mind
Next year there is the release of the 3D television while if you were living a 1000 years from now they would kill you if you would say something like that .

Yes I agree, the Illuminati definitely want to control the internet and I have no doubt that they will do everything in their power to do so but if we keep thinking that will happen then it will - and that's what they want. If enough people wake up, become aware of what's going on and generate enough positivity then we can over power their negativity.

 

[myfavouritewintercoat]

They say that they want us all to have black boxes in our houses that will monitor all emails and internet usage and they will use terrorism as an excuse of why its needed... They also may limit how many sites you can look at in a certain space of time... I agree Julia its all v.depressing, I believe some of it as with 9billion people in this world its not too surprising that there would be people who want to control the masses. I wish less people acted like sheep who believe all they see and hear on the TV and in the papers or what the Government says. Its the way they want to control the public that is scary, as the western world has developed, control has slipped out of their hands but now they regain it in covert and sly ways.. until we figure out a way to stop this...(I doubt we can, money,oil and power are the root of all the evil in this world) then I do also believe the only thing left to do now is just to help others and put good in the world when you can because the world needs it!

 

[mischief]

Discussing what they're GOING to do is a bit like the saying "closing the stable door after the horse has bolted"... because they've already been doing it for years.

Where monitoring telecoms and internet/email is concerned, they have.

 

[elmoy]

I'm glad you guys are having this conversation because the more you keep the "illuminati" a secret, the more they win. I knew nothing about the illuminati before MJ's death. But what I did know was that something was not right.

This started when I was about thirteen years old watching the media's behavior after the Oprah interview until the present day. I wondered things such as why couldn't they accept MJ's vitiligo explanation, whats so bad about a grown man not talking to the world about his sex life, how come only negative books on MJ gets published and into the book stores. There comes a time when the explanation of negativity sells just doesn't cut it anymore. A book written by T-mez would have been an obvious best seller even if it was just MJ's fans who bought it. The truth is they want to keep the truth about his innocence a secret.

After watching "The Arrivals" series on youtube, even though I disagreed with many details of the film, because of the overall theory, I got a lot of my questions answered. It was about 8hrs long and MJ was only mentioned for only about 10 seconds but they were dead on even though it was made before MJ's passing. Then I took another look at the "Dangerous" cover and read MJ's lyrics to songs I knew for years, re-watched videos I seen a million times and was like "Wow, I really believe he was sending us messages about what was really going on in the world". I am confident that the illuminati's existence is the only thing that make sense out of things that don't make sense in this world including how MJ has been treated for the last fifteen years and his death. However, I'm still doing research and have a lot more to learn about them though.

 

[My_HeartBreaker]

If any of this is true people like the writers of angels and demons and the davinci code would be dead

 

[killa.bee]

If any of this is true people like the writers of angels and demons and the davinci code would be dead

No because they claim it's fiction
People think this is fiction and I'm sure the Illuminati supports this because what's the first reaction after you watched one of these movies ? It's too surrealistic to be true . People don't take movies serious at the end of the day it's a movie .

And btw there is a lot of people killed by the Illuminati you don't wanna even know about . These people are not famous and not known by people like us

 

[Gaiaschild]

No because they claim it's fiction
People think this is fiction and I'm sure the Illuminati supports this because what's the first reaction after you watched one of these movies ? It's too surrealistic to be true . People don't take movies serious at the end of the day it's a movie .

And btw there is a lot of people killed by the Illuminati you don't wanna even know about . These people are not famous and not known by people like us

That is so true, I know of a quite a few .. I also tend to listen to the ones that died because I feel they had something to say that was clearly frightening to tptb.

 

[Gaiaschild]

Discussing what they're GOING to do is a bit like the saying "closing the stable door after the horse has bolted"... because they've already been doing it for years.

Where monitoring telecoms and internet/email is concerned, they have.

that is true too, there is a great deal of infliltration going on. Many believe that something big of the likes we have never seen is going to happen which they need to bring the plan to fruition, I don't know if it is true but I believe we should be aware.

I can't decide whether mJ was killed by Sony Mafia or illuminati but the illuminati does control the music industry and the media and other large corporations so I can't rule out it isn't linked.

 

[Gaiaschild]

I agree with you to some extent and when I first discovered what the Illuminati were about I went through a stage of depression because I felt completely powerless. I researched further and further though to try and find a positive angle somewhere and eventually I did.

As our King once sang 'There's nothing that can't be done if we raise our voice as one'. Positive energy works against the Illuminati and that's where Michael's plans for healing the world may have rocked their applecart somewhat. What we can do is continue to spread Michael's message.

I agree , I hope you are ok now Julia, yes it can be depressing, I felt like that too. It is easy to feel like that. It is really important not to forget this, because fear and powerlessness makes us easy to control, that is what they want. We can be just as powerful if we spread the positivity message and isn't that just Michael wanted us to do, and I know that was at least one thing what he was going communicate at the concerts, from wht some fans have said he told them, as well as the message Karen Faye had and recently relayed. I think TPTB must have been frightened of him and this message and the numbers it would reach globally.

 

[justyna]

ok, I give up:/

 

[Goodbye Michael]

why would they want Michael dead. what the hell has he done to piss off "the illuminati". i'm still not buying it.

 

[Moonlight]

Rather than quote all your posts in this thread Gaiaschild, I'll just say that for me, you've got it bang on the nose!

 

[Julia55]

I agree , I hope you are ok now Julia, yes it can be depressing, I felt like that too. It is easy to feel like that. It is really important not to forget this, because fear and powerlessness makes us easy to control, that is what they want. We can be just as powerful if we spread the positivity message and isn't that just Michael wanted us to do, and I know that was at least one thing what he was going communicate at the concerts, from wht some fans have said he told them, as well as the message Karen Faye had and recently relayed. I think TPTB must have been frightened of him and this message and the numbers it would reach globally.

Thanks, I'm lot better now I know so many more people are aware of what's going on than I first thought and I really believe positivity is the key. Also, more people are getting in touch with their higher consiousness now than ever before which is something the Illuminati have tried to keep us from doing because we will gain power and they will lose control. Power is in numbers - the more people who know about them, the weaker they become.

 

[killa.bee]

why would they want Michael dead. what the hell has he done to piss off "the illuminati". i'm still not buying it.

You can find the answer in this thread

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

here's the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJi2HaJf1VI

Yeah...ok..so artists sing about Illuminati now and then...but that part about Michael is beyond laughable really...come on now.

 

[CherubimII]

The more people who know about them, the weaker they become.

This is so very true.
Here's a BIG HUG!!!!

 

[afrika]

That's what I hear a lot of time, but not about any of them...it's the same scheme, just diffrent group's name - that's why I doubt...

You're Right.

Alot people believe illuminite is a myth. The fact is they exist and they're evil. If you ask me at the moment they're Untouchable.

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

That one video is crazy....the part about Michael that is. Come on people...THINK!
Michael already had Vitiligo during Off the wall or even before...correct me if i'm wrong. Either....at that time Michael wasn't talking/singing about the government and earth yet. It was mostly songs about love, disco..dancing.

No logic in the Illuminati 'giving ' Michael that disease.

This really holds no ground.

 

[justyna]

You're Right.

Alot people believe illuminite is a myth. The fact is they exist and they're evil. If you ask me at the moment they're Untouchable.

i didn't mean the people being the myth, but the ideas that have grown up around them...cause a group i was talking about exist and there's a lot of untouchable/unhurtable/unbreakeble/controlling schemes existing too...beside you know what the francmasons are told about?? and i hope you do know the origins of them,but trough so many years/decades legends were born - and thet's how I feel about this "never before A&D heard group" I think about...

 

[afrika]

i didn't mean the people being the myth, but the ideas that have grown up around them...cause a group i was talking about exist and there's a lot of untouchable/unhurtable/unbreakeble/controlling schemes existing too...beside you know what the francmasons are told about?? and i hope you do know the origins of them,but trough so many years/decades legends were born - and thet's how I feel about this "never before A&D heard group" I think about...

Justyna,I just don't know enough, i guess

Do you think you can poste in here,that will help alot. Thanks

 

[justyna]

Justyna,I just don't know enough, i guess

Do you think you can poste in here,that will help alot. Thanks

1)don't want to get into too deep, just for you to know - the francmasons were just the people(poets, inteligents,researchers,aristocracy) who were getting together in the XVIIIth century - it was just the meetings of people intrested in all i mentioned. It wasn't accesible for everyone, but you can't excpect from the non-educated to talk about philosophy or poetry, right? I do believe that all this hate and anger grown up around them came from the ones who were not able to join them,not only because of the education but also cause the basic of being one of them was/is the tolerance, an atheist or fanatic can't join. That's where all conspiracy theories came from.
2) the group I was talking about - not sure if you want to know, but since you asked about posting- are Jews. There've been since the 19th century the theories about J. ruling/controlling the world. I've heard that many time...
I think you do understand now why I don't believe it

 

[raz2911]

People watch these series of videos they are VERY interesting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvRI1VnQAEc (part 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ltb6wkaNCYQ&NR=1&feature=fvwp(part 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFXdFTd2U24&feature=related(part 3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAkQQKwZdpY&NR=1(part 4)

really people watch it when I saw this thread I thought it was a joke the only illuminati I knew of was the ones out of the De Vinci code, its really opened my eyes. you have to be open minded though. really watch it its onto something.

 

[justyna]

saw it alreadycouple of weeks'days ago - don't actually remember...not convincing...i know i'm soooo sceptical and averything, but it's really hard to believe:/

 

[afrika]

1)don't want to get into too deep, just for you to know - the francmasons were just the people(poets, inteligents,researchers,aristocracy) who were getting together in the XVIIIth century - it was just the meetings of people intrested in all i mentioned. It wasn't accesible for everyone, but you can't excpect from the non-educated to talk about philosophy or poetry, right? I do believe that all this hate and anger grown up around them came from the ones who were not able to join them,not only because of the education but also cause the basic of being one of them was/is the tolerance, an atheist or fanatic can't join. That's where all conspiracy theories came from.
2) the group I was talking about - not sure if you want to know, but since you asked about posting- are Jews. There've been since the 19th century the theories about J. ruling/controlling the world. I've heard that many time...
I think you do understand now why I don't believe it

Thanks for the info.

Even the x-files predicted 911 conspiracy.

 

[Moonlight]

That one video is crazy....the part about Michael that is. Come on people...THINK!
Michael already had Vitiligo during Off the wall or even before...correct me if i'm wrong. Either....at that time Michael wasn't talking/singing about the government and earth yet. It was mostly songs about love, disco..dancing.

No logic in the Illuminati 'giving ' Michael that disease.

This really holds no ground.

I agree with you about the Vitiligo theory not being a fit time wise, besides, can you "give someone" an autoimmune disease? Michael said it was hereditory, passed through genes from his father's side anyway.

~ That doesn't mean the overall concept of an Illuminati control mechanism at work, should be totally disregarded though. There are some accuracies in that video too. Plus of course it has been the case that Michael has had many other things done to him, in order to discredit, disengratiate and ruin him in one way or another. Whether people choose to attribute that in Michael's case to Sony, other people and/or other circumstances, or to a bigger overall picture like the Illuminati, I guess maybe depends on their strength of belief in the overall concept of an Illuminati & whether they believe Michael posed a significant threat to their overall agenda. Michael was phenomenally popular and as such, influential, music and videos/films are very powerful mediums.

I think sometimes maybe people get entrenched in the smaller more personal to them issues though. Aside from 'They Don't Care About Us' (mentioned) and Michael's other music, humanitarian work and general heads up, or positive messages, ... For me the most pertinent lyrics in the whole of this particular video come from Bob Marley ~ Bob Marley: 04:30 "They Don't Want To See Us Unite; they want to keep us fussing & fighting" (Top Ranking); so I do agree with Gaiaschild & Julia55 that racial and religious division is a part of their agenda too and that irrespective of what anyone believes about this in relation to Michael, it's his messages of love that should endure.

 

[MJ#1WhoIsIt]

I believe Michael was killed by the infamous Illuminati .
One of the many reasons is the fact that Michael was simply too powerful and still has the largest audience in the world .
If you don't believe it just think about the day Michael died and how the whole world was thrilled .

One of the possible reasons for the killing is just the fact that Michael was obsessed with the fact the world was being controlled by money and money made people do evil things . Michael has been warning the world ever since Dangerous was released .


I have strong believe that the 1993 trial was a succesful plan created by the Illuminati to destroy Michael's carreer because he became TOO big and TOO dangerous . Nobody could control Michael Jackson anymore .

I believe Thomas Sneddon is a puppet of the Illuminati and his mission was to destroy Michael's carreer . There is no thing in the world as the level of hate Sneddon had for Michael without anything suspicious behind it .
He changed a part of the law so he could get Michael behind the bars .

He was proven innocent but the damage to his carreer would never heal .

Michael Jackson was planning a comeback and everything sold out so Illuminati was flipping out . They had to kill him because he still wasn't defeated .

That's what I believe as a true Michael Jackson fan .
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You are 100% telling the TRUTH. Excellent Thread you Started, this is what Michael would want us to be talking about this is what he was all to familiar with. He sat in meetings with some of these people he knew them personally thats why he could call them DEVILS he knew what they where capable of and he knew their intentions for the future of everyone, he tried to stop them in many ways and some of you know some of these ways, but this is some of the Knowledge he wanted us to know.

look for the Bilderberg group
Each year the world leaders , top managers , the top of the press , etc... have a meeting behind close doors

Also look the Bohemian grave up it's a place where the most important people of the music industry are coming together and strongly believe in satanism. there is a whole lot that I still have to figure out but with the information above you can start to educate yourself and start getting aware by the existence of the Illuminati

You are so correct You Cant Conquer what you Dont Confront.

Look, the Illumanati is no secret anymore. Information is all over the internet. Just like the Masons' used to be a secret society until defectors started writing books and revealing all their secrets. You can't keep secrets in this world....sooner or later, someone is gonna reveal it.

What makes people doubt the Illum is the fact that you can't see or touch it. But you know it is there. Rich and powerful people...the greedy and power hungry kind...have always conspired together to keep others from sharing their wealth and power. And power is not always monetary. Power can be obtained when your are depressed and you go to a Michael Jackson concert and he sings to you, "Keep the faith", or "You are not alone" or "They don't really care about us" or "I'll be there" or "make that change". Then you GET HIS MESSAGE and you go out and make something of yourself. You pull yourself up out of the mud and go to college, graduate and become somebody. Imagine if you had several million people like you out there doing the same thing. Why some of them just might become rich and wealthy and then decide they are gonna GIVE BACK like Michael did and go to Africa and help needy children. And it goes on and on. Look, the rich don't care if you get rich...what they care about is the POWER that comes with the wealth. They don't want to share the power. They want to be in the elite few.

Ever since Michael told Paul McCartney, " I'm a lover, not a fighter", I knew that his life's message would be all about love. The guy who was working with him on this THIS IS IT tour said that all Michael talked about was LOVE. He even said, "love is my message". And it was...til the day he died.

Excellent Post; just because you cant see them or touch them dont mean they are not real; They want you to stay Blind in DARKNESS thats they only way they can succeed in what they do.
But we do touch them and see them by doing just what we are doing in this thread continue to expose them, learn about them and most of all they HATE THE TRUTH nothing TOUCHES them like THE TRUTH and they are NOT TO BE FEARED.

yep,listen to the entire history album. mainly they dont care about us,money,2bad,and this time around. they were out to get him

Yep, Yep.

I totally understand why they would kill only rich and famous people...that is where the potential power is.

Now whether or not they were involved in MJ's death is a whole 'nother issues.

But it is good to always keep in the back of your mind that these people and groups exist.

They also MURDER POOR PEOPLE to further their AGENDAs; alot of your LOCAL UNSOLVED MURDERS are done by them, to make it look like Drug Dealings Killings, SUICIDES or whatever they need to further their agenda.

The boheminan grove rituals with the world's leading figures etc got inflitrated by anti illumiati research journalist, it is on youtube.

I know quite a lot about the illuminati but I try not to use that word, but it is important to know that there are very powerful people who orchestrate how the world is run and I know a few major researchers in this field and a few of them I know have died for exposing things. It is very difficult to summarise it here as it is very complicated and it isn't the right forum for doing so, and I've tried to bring it up on other forums but all you get there is people calling MJ the usual tabloid names.

Forget the word illuminati which means the illuminated, I don't think there is anything illuminated about them, but just know that there do exist extremely powerful people all around the world, who orchestrate how the world is run some of these people own and control the media, (just do some research on who owns them )around the world, they own and control corporate businesses, Monsanto and their GM food is also part of it there are secret governments with these extremely powerful mega weathy people behind the governments around the world, I know that sounds far fetched but it is true, and they own and control the music industry.

Greed has also destroyed the earth, organisations like monsanto (illuminati)don't give a toss about the balance of the planet, human life or any life, they deliberately sold the poor indian farmers seed that would not grow so their crops would fail so they would cause severe poverty and could gain their land to grow their gm crops and there is a well known case of that was won because people the public paid for it where a canadia farmer had his organic crop deliberately contaminated with GM seed so they could claim the crop and property as theirs. They are into population control and eugenics, wars and starvation, pharmaceuticals are all part of this. This is what is going on in the world and it doesn't get reported in the media much because, who are the media owned by.

remember Michaels earth song.


I believe Michaels death could have been orchestrated for other reasons other than just financial reasons though I know that is a major part of it, because these peeps are greedy but more important they want power and control.

if he had got been able to get independence and free of sony by doing these concerts, he would have become very powerful again in the music industry and could have had an influence for the positive and greater good,this is at a time when there are things going on the world that I don't want to post here as it is not the right forum but Michael doing these concerts if he had a message as Karen faye and others say about love and healing the world this would upset and delay the NWO plans for the world. They are moving toward a NWO as David Rockerfella admits in his book, that bit is not even a secret.

Michael also wrote a very powerful anti war song in 2004 about children dying in war. we have had enough. He was really going into dangerous territory.

I think it is interesting that people who are influential against illuminati plans all end up dying,murdered or assassinated to name a few JFK, martin Luther King,John Lennon, Bob Marley, Tupac, Princess Diana who exposed the land mines, and spoke out on TPTB behind the royal family. These people were all highly influential and all spoke out on areas that would make for a better world and went into political areas, tptb don't want that because of the influence these people can have on the masses on a global scale, ie being united. lving in peace and harmony.

I know it may seem far fetched to people because they believe what they have been told about the world we live in but if you do lots of research you will find further info to confirm their existence, ..

We can't fully resolve what happened to Michael by focusing on the illuminati but we need to be aware of their existence and power in the world and connection to things.

The main players in MIchael's death seem to me to be people with possible illuminati connections from Dr Murray as freemason, Dr Tohme, Tom Barrack, Phillip Answutz and John Branca, these people seem to be about the money\money money.

To make it more complicated not all people in these powerful illumiati familes are all bad, some of them are normal. so you can't label everyone.

The illuminati include the rothschilds a banking family who funded world wars1 and 2, the rockerfellas , The rockerfellas, this is a quote from David Rockerfella autobiography. It isn't a secret, he says it himself.

http://www.rense.com/general71/amaz.htm

For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will.

If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."

I won't quote what Henry Kissinger said as I don't want to upset anyone, but it would demonstrate further what I mean, please be aware of the world we are living in because I believe what michael stood for and the global influence he would have had and the positive energy he would have generated on a global scale had he done these concerts could be related to why Michael died.

Having said that we need to focus on the main characters involved in MJ death rather than the illuminati but just be aware it could run deeper than it appears.

I know Michael in ALL HIS POWER he now has been given by GOD himself must really be PROUD of You Gaiaschild and HemLock. See they thought they where getting ride of Michael forever but they only pushed him into his ETERNAL TRUE POWER; Judging with God now one of God's Chosen Vessels. Thats why we must not FEAR DEATH, THe Illuminati or no EVIL SOCIETY only part of our work is here on this Earth.

Very true!
I believe in corruption in the media, police and government.. I believe that there are very powerful people in the world who undoubtly have abused their power..

Please believe this they are everywhere in our Daily Lives; but not to be feared because they are workers of Evil and Evil does not Win they only INTIMIDATE; our lives far exceed this Earth we have another HOME.

Not only the music, but movies as well. They're getting dumber and dumber and even dumber, not to mention violence they're soaked in. I can't remember when was the last time I've seen a movie that made ANY SENCE.
I believe Michael has been killed, it was planned too, and his stupid doc is just another well used sheep in long history of similar crimes commited. Can't you remember any other as famous person ( I mustn't forget, not only famous, but a person who would refuse to just go with the flow, ppl who tried to really make some difference in a positive way) killed in almost the same fashion?
What about Diana? What about Lennon? And so on, this sad list is not that short? You think its just a coincidence?

I was told by an old Tribal Etiophian they are really not as Powerful as they used to be because they are getting careless and not able to hid themselves like they use to. And alot of that comes from the Internet even though they OWN alot of FORUMS, they still cant deal with what they dont EXPOSE themselves they do EXPOSE some things about themselve for us to know but we have went beyond their control, just like in Michael's Murder they became Careless with their OVERKILL of Him and thought no one would care or even realize this was a HOMICIDE MURDER.

People know it, but don't want to believe it. freemasons, illuminati and Scientology are one big group. They own the Media and Hollywood.. Those names are cover up.

Their ambition was to destroy its biggest threat ever, and that threat happen to be Michael. What did MJ do to them? He refused to bow down

There is coming a day wheter they want to believe it or not they will choose to side with them or side with TRUTH at ALL COST.

I agree with you to some extent and when I first discovered what the Illuminati were about I went through a stage of depression because I felt completely powerless. I researched further and further though to try and find a positive angle somewhere and eventually I did. From what I've seen recently the internet is actually the Illuminati's worst nightmare because as much as they try, they CANNOT control what people are putting on the web. More and more people are exposing them with videos on You tube, articles, websites, documentaries etc. It's all there for people to see and more and more people are becoming aware everyday, I think the Illuminati's days are numbered.

As our King once sang 'There's nothing that can't be done if we raise our voice as one'. Positive energy works against the Illuminati and that's where Michael's plans for healing the world may have rocked their applecart somewhat. What we can do is continue to spread Michael's message.

Their Day's are NUMBERED and they know WHY and this is what its really ALL about.

I'm glad you guys are having this conversation because the more you keep the "illuminati" a secret, the more they win. I knew nothing about the illuminati before MJ's death. But what I did know was that something was not right.

This started when I was about thirteen years old watching the media's behavior after the Oprah interview until the present day. I wondered things such as why couldn't they accept MJ's vitiligo explanation, whats so bad about a grown man not talking to the world about his sex life, how come only negative books on MJ gets published and into the book stores. There comes a time when the explanation of negativity sells just doesn't cut it anymore. A book written by T-mez would have been an obvious best seller even if it was just MJ's fans who bought it. The truth is they want to keep the truth about his innocence a secret.

After watching "The Arrivals" series on youtube, even though I disagreed with many details of the film, because of the overall theory, I got a lot of my questions answered. It was about 8hrs long and MJ was only mentioned for only about 10 seconds but they were dead on even though it was made before MJ's passing. Then I took another look at the "Dangerous" cover and read MJ's lyrics to songs I knew for years, re-watched videos I seen a million times and was like "Wow, I really believe he was sending us messages about what was really going on in the world". I am confident that the illuminati's existence is the only thing that make sense out of things that don't make sense in this world including how MJ has been treated for the last fifteen years and his death. However, I'm still doing research and have a lot more to learn about them though.

This is one of the BEST THREAD on the Internet in this whole Saga of The Tragic Murdering of Michael Jackson.

that is true too, there is a great deal of infliltration going on. Many believe that something big of the likes we have never seen is going to happen which they need to bring the plan to fruition, I don't know if it is true but I believe we should be aware.

I can't decide whether mJ was killed by Sony Mafia or illuminati but the illuminati does control the music industry and the media and other large corporations so I can't rule out it isn't linked.

They all Work Together, they are "1".

why would they want Michael dead. what the hell has he done to piss off "the illuminati". i'm still not buying it.

Simple Michael had more Control, Power and Money than they did, but he was murdered for his Control and Power something he didnt use the way they wanted him to because he chose Love instead of Hate and Evil. So he was in Opposition to them with World Control, Power and Money.

Rather than quote all your posts in this thread Gaiaschild, I'll just say that for me, you've got it bang on the nose!

I know I couldnt resist. Just too much GOOD INFORMATION, KNOWLEDGE and WISDOM right here.

You're Right.

Alot people believe illuminite is a myth. The fact is they exist and they're evil. If you ask me at the moment they're Untouchable.

They are TOUCHABLE and THEY ARE FEELING THIS, you just have to know how to TOUCH THEM BACK.


and they do sacrifice members to be convicted and sentence there are people in prison being taking care of by the Illuminati because they do alot of their work from Prisons and Jails, guess what their names are in PRISONS throughout the World what ORGANIZATION they are? ? ?

1)don't want to get into too deep, just for you to know - the francmasons were just the people(poets, inteligents,researchers,aristocracy) who were getting together in the XVIIIth century - it was just the meetings of people intrested in all i mentioned. It wasn't accesible for everyone, but you can't excpect from the non-educated to talk about philosophy or poetry, right? I do believe that all this hate and anger grown up around them came from the ones who were not able to join them,not only because of the education but also cause the basic of being one of them was/is the tolerance, an atheist or fanatic can't join. That's where all conspiracy theories came from.
2) the group I was talking about - not sure if you want to know, but since you asked about posting- are Jews. There've been since the 19th century the theories about J. ruling/controlling the world. I've heard that many time...
I think you do understand now why I don't believe it

They are not only Jews they are of every Race. Just Wonderful Thread. "He that have Eyes Let him see; He that hath Ears Let him Hear".

 

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They are not only Jews they are of every Race. Just Wonderful Thread. "He that have Eyes Let him see; He that hath Ears Let him Hear".

1)Have you red my recent posts? I wrote about Jews, explaining to afrika what i meant writing about theories.
2) Even IF there were people around Michael who are the members of Illuminati,it doesn't mean it's the job of whole organization...

ahhh...OK if we want to deal with the investigation and reach some conclusions we can't assume from the very beginning it was them