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Michael Jackson killed by the Illuminati ?

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Oh yeah, there's no intention on controlling any others affairs outside of America. I mean, how absurd is that? We have no military bases occupying others land. NONE. Don't tell others what they should do or else. Not at all. That's just ridiculous!
Media is just here to inform everyone of the truth and nothing but the truth. Anyone who says otherwise is just being paranoid and should seek help immediately from a psychiatrist.

There are no lobbyists. NONE. I don't get where people get such ideas.
MTV just plays music that will sell. It's the only format people will buy. Nobody wants to hear about love and helping people. It just doesn't sell. That's for hippies and stuff.
 
This theory goes too far for me. It only adds to the confusion. It's destracting from the facts... or is that it's goal (that's just another theory ;) )
 
For those that believe that Michael was delibereately murdered, what is wrong with speculating on who the puppeteers are. It is all very well knowing who the puppets are but who is pulling the strings.
 
Gonetoosoon said:
From being a forum contributor on Stormfront (before Michael healed me) there was a lot of talk about the Illuminati. Especially emphasizing the fact that many of the most powerful people in the world are of Jewish descent. Are we condoning a degree, however small, of anti-semitism? I'm quite shocked if those of you who believe are..

I don't want to go down this track again. I've walked it once and I refuse to get sucked back in to Jewish conspiracy theories..
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No one has said anything about anyone being jewish, that is very sad to say that,it is powerful people all around the world of all religious denominations.
 
andythemisfit said:
Looks like someone here has gotton really inspired from reading the book "Angels and Demons". :lol:
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Never heard of it.

I've listened to David Wilcock, Ric Clay now deceased at age 26, Bill Cooper ex military who exposed stuff shot on orders in 2001 . David Wilcock says they do bits of truth in movies though in order that if people find out a truth another way, they can say oh he just saw it in a movie. Also the recent hoax video on Michael being alive was put out through mainstream media and it turns out the media have now said this demonstrates that people will believe anything, this is done deliberately in order to discredit genuine conspiracy.

http://www.cbc.ca/arts/media/story/2009/09/01/hoax-video.html

Iheard an ex MI5 agent interviewed say that iif they want to discredit a genuine conspiracy they put out false information that can be discredited and in that way they can discredit the genuine conspiracy, and all conspiracy theories the false ones and genuine conspiraciies get thrown into the same pot. That is how they are able to manipulate most people from thinking for themselves.

I do agree though this isn't helping us find out what happened to Michael. But it does help understand the powers that be.
 
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Hoofmark said:
This theory goes too far for me. It only adds to the confusion. It's destracting from the facts... or is that it's goal (that's just another theory ;) )
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Very true!
I believe in corruption in the media, police and government.. I believe that there are very powerful people in the world who undoubtly have abused their power.. I'm not particulary buying this power handed down over thousands of years with a collective motive in mind. Whilst they do have power over these mediums.. I'm not convinced they have this motive for world domination or whatever.. I also don't buy Michael was an anti-New World Order man? Convince me otherwise... Nonetheless I think we can't just answer every crisis with a conspiracy theory which in all honesty will never stick as a mass opinion nor will it ever be proven as concrete fact.
 
Gonetoosoon said:
Very true!
I believe in corruption in the media, police and government.. I believe that there are very powerful people in the world who undoubtly have abused their power.. I'm not particulary buying this power handed down over thousands of years with a collective motive in mind. Whilst they do have power over these mediums.. I'm not convinced they have this motive for world domination or whatever.. I also don't buy Michael was an anti-New World Order man? Convince me otherwise... Nonetheless I think we can't just answer every crisis with a conspiracy theory which in all honesty will never stick as a mass opinion nor will it ever be proven as concrete fact.
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Good post, I agree, I don't know even if Michael was aware of NWO, I didn't even know of it until 2 years ago myself, so I think he might have been by now and he was defintiely against corruption and war, from his ealier speeches,2001, 2002 before the allegatons. I don't think he was as outspoken as he would have liked after the trials, due to fear of being lyched further, he must have become more aware of TPTB it even got mentioned in the trials, the conspiracy against him, and michael talked about it. Michael communicated through his music.
 
I had never heard of the illuminati before Michael's passing. I started to research this and I am shocked by the things I have found and evidence to back up that they really do exist. The illuminati have a lot of control and if they wanted to, it's highly likely they could take Michael from us. I cannot say for sure if Michael was murdered by them but one thing is for sure, he knew about them and the New World Order and he was trying to let us know through his music. If you want to know about the Illuminati you have to research it FULLY for yourself and trust your own intuition on it. Once you have done this, look at the Dangerous cover for there is a strong message. Michael was a very intelligent man and he knew stuff...
 
not sure why but the mess around What More Can I Give comes to mind - all at the time he started talking about the conspiracies to fans. Wasnt We've Had Enough ment to be on Invincible album? The time line is making sense! suddenly he almost ends up in jail - hmmmm.

sorry, just thinking out loud!
 
killa.bee said:





I have strong believe that the 1993 trial was a succesful plan created by the Illuminati to destroy Michael's carreer because he became TOO big and TOO dangerous . Nobody could control Michael Jackson anymore .​
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I've heard/red somewhere an idea that it was the work of those people Tom Cruise belongs to - i don't remember the name, but it's kind of church or something like that - i'm not to well educated in the church's/religious stuffs:mello:


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one more thing - I'm veeery sceptical about conspiracy theories wich have something to do with religion/religious rassemblings etc. there was and still exist in this part of the world(i don't know if you ever heard about that) the conspiracy theorie about so called "jewish-communism" myth, which is based on whe idea that Jews started the revolution in 1905 to get control over whole Europe, which is A TOTAL BULLSHIT...i always recall that when i hear about the francmason/illuminati/other conspiracies:(
 
justyna said:
one more thing - I'm veeery sceptical about conspiracy theories wich have something to do with religion/religious rassemblings etc. there was and still exist in this part of the world(i don't know if you ever heard about that) the conspiracy theorie about so called "jewish-communism" myth, which is based on whe idea that Jews started the revolution in 1905 to get control over whole Europe, which is A TOTAL BULLSHIT...i always recall that when i hear about the francmason/illuminati/other conspiracies:(
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It is nothing to do with religion. It is deeper than that.
 
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Gaiaschild said:
I've not heard of that one, of course there are lot of false things out there, but it is nothing to do with religion. It is deeper than that.
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oh yes it did - i mean the one i'm talking about...it was a part of all those conspiracy theories about Jews which begun in the Middle Age...
 
justyna said:
I've heard/red somewhere an idea that it was the work of those people Tom Cruise belongs to - i don't remember the name, but it's kind of church or something like that - i'm not to well educated in the church's/religious stuffs:mello:
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I guess you are referring to Scientology.
 
justyna said:
oh yes it did - i mean the one i'm talking about...it was a part of all those conspiracy theories about Jews which begun in the Middle Age...
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I don't think it is helpful to distract into religion and politics, the illuminati or the powers that be in all countries of the world is actually much deeper than that. They use these things to keep people divided. That is how it works.

It is more helpful to remember Michaels message of love unity and healing the world, because he cleary understood that and that is where his power was.... to unite people across the globe. This what will weaken their agenda.
 
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Gaiaschild said:
I don't think it is helpful to distract into religion and politics, the illuminati or the powers that be in all countries of the world is actually much deeper than that. They use these things to keep people divided. That is how it works.

It is more helpful to remember Michaels message of love unity and healing the world, because he cleary understood that and that is where his power was.... to unite people across the globe. This what will weaken their agenda.
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i'm not distracting into anything, I just meant that I don't believe any of those theories, cause there are many more talking about "all the countiers of the world"(I don't mean illuminatis" and it is based on the hate and intolerance. I'm not defending those illuminatis, I don't even know who exactly they are(ecxept consp. theories) and what they're doing and wethear they even exist or not, I'm just talking about creating some senseless ideas about things people don't know much about...
 
I don't live in America and the Illuminati wants to control the world
It's really shocking to see how many of the media is part of the state or banks , part of highly respected businessmen who show up at the Illuminati meetings , etc...

Ofcouse I know a lot of people don't wanna believe this because this is very heartbreaking to know this world is being controlled .

I don't wanna be a robot because that's what they are doing if you don't want to believe it just look around you , everywhere is cameras, they've created software to find out where your friends are via mobile phone , people are tapping of phone conversations , you don't know how much the world wide web is being controlled and you never know who can see what you are doing whenever you're online .

The computer is a great invention but it's VERY dangerous because it connects people worldwide and there is a brand new market for the Illuminati .
Look at Facebook & Twitter . Why is this so succesfull ... because people are way very curious . The Illuminati wants globalism and their plan is working very well .

The news you see on television is no news because it's selected by the channel .
The violence and crime went very low the last couple of years but when I watch the news it gives me the feeling I'm not safe anymore on any street anywhere .
Only brainwashed people will not believe or consider there is an Illuminati . This is the truth .
 
praisemichael said:
can i ask a stupid question what is this Illuminati
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Good question, quite complicated to explain as it is very complicated, the illuminati means the illuminated or the enlightened, except IMO I don't think they are very enlightened. It was a secret society that began in the 1770s but has now become global secret society controlling world affairs, it involves many powerful people around the world they are above governments, control governments and corporations. They want a New World order. I refer to them as tptb and when I use that I don't mean the government or governments, I mean literally the powers that be whoever they are.

In my opinion it does exist there are many very good researchers on the subject, lots of books on the subject and some videos on youtube. Not all of them agree on everything. I agree that is not a good idea to dwell too much on it but be aware of it. Everytime people get into arguments on religion and politics they are feeding the illuminati, this is what they want. When people stop doing that, the illuminati power will be gone. It has helped me remember the importance of love and unity.

The illuminati is not very positive, and it is more positive and powerful to remember Michaels message of love and unity and I do think he was aware of it and what Michael stood for was the opposite of the illuminati.
 
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killa.bee said:
Only brainwashed people will not believe or consider there is an Illuminati . This is the truth .
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I'm not saying I'm 100% sure they do not exist, it's cause the first time i've heard of them was after watching "Angles&Demons" and it made me laugh just like Da Vinci code...and I am not brainwashed and definnitly not feel controled
 
MJJ:G.O.A.T said:
:yes: Not just rap, but alot of the music we are getting is garbage. Its dumbed down.
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Not only the music, but movies as well. They're getting dumber and dumber and even dumber, not to mention violence they're soaked in. I can't remember when was the last time I've seen a movie that made ANY SENCE.
I believe Michael has been killed, it was planned too, and his stupid doc is just another well used sheep in long history of similar crimes commited. Can't you remember any other as famous person ( I mustn't forget, not only famous, but a person who would refuse to just go with the flow, ppl who tried to really make some difference in a positive way) killed in almost the same fashion?
What about Diana? What about Lennon? And so on, this sad list is not that short? You think its just a coincidence?
 
Gaiaschild said:
For those that believe that Michael was delibereately murdered, what is wrong with speculating on who the puppeteers are. It is all very well knowing who the puppets are but who is pulling the strings.
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People know it, but don't want to believe it. freemasons, illuminati and Scientology are one big group. They own the Media and Hollywood.. Those names are cover up.

Their ambition was to destroy its biggest threat ever, and that threat happen to be Michael. What did MJ do to them? He refused to bow down
 
i find this whole Illuminati business rlly scary especially after watching youtube vid, that eye is just so...(shivers), we just dnt knw whats goin on around us
 
The illuminati? This is getting weirder and weirder. I do think the deaths of some very famous ppl were planned but I don't think all the planners belong to the same secret society. In every society when someone (esp. one with lots of influence) goes against the flow, he/she creates friction and opposition which sometimes leads to death (either outright execution or unexplained deaths). It happens everywhere in the world, in every culture, I think it's more a product of human nature than some organized secret WORLD force. Regarding michael, I don't think there's a conspiracy directly related to his death, but there were some rather shady actions regarding the AEG deal that preceded it.
 
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