Merged: Psychics channel Michael

[8701girl]

Ok, so I know this looks totally creepy-religious :lol:, but I tried to put something together that would give you some idea of what I saw in the first dream, what that image stuck in my head was. Of course this isn't just like it, but similar.

P.S. I just thought it's funny now to think this pic is weird at all, because... it's just the '96 World Music Awards with some added glowiness and light. In the end it's probably not so dissimilar to what Michael wanted it to look like :lol:

I think alot of fans have had mj appear in their like this, glowing ln light. And to me bright white light like that means purity, togetherness and innocence.

 

[darlingdear]

EDIT: Sorry darlingDear! That might have been the one I was thinking of :blush:. The tingling thing. Was that in the third eye area? I was reading something about that yesterday but I can't remember what it was. I'll have a look for it

Don't worry about it

Ermm, it wasn't so much in the third eye area no. It was more..kinda on the right side just off centre, on my forehead, working its way down..maybe heading towards my third eye?

 

[mjbunny]

^ :lol: the way you tell your dreams always makes me laugh. They sound seriously cool though, apart from waking up before MJ turned up at the party. How annoying lol. I love how husbunny knew about this party and didn't tell you :lol:

I guess Hb not saying anything about knowing the show was filmed just some miles away, the hotel, the party... well, I think that results from the fact that he lived here (HERE in GERMANY) that got so much of Michael over the years, geez, and rarely took any advantage of these opportunities. Aside from 3 HIStory concerts, he never got closer to MJ than that and I'm like... :bugeyed wtf? You know, I was in America, not in cities anywhere near to where Michael lived or spent time, we didn't get the Dangerous or HIStory tours and I never had money to travel overseas or clear across the U.S. to see him anywhere. Folks in Europe were SO LUCKY to have so many opportunities to be close to him I know that people had to keep jobs, were in school, traveling by train even can be expensive, but mein Gott... Michael was all over Germany so many times. :doh: I moved to Germany in 2006 and MJ went back to the US. Seems we were so often on different continents :no: I thought in 2009 and beyond we might finally be near... :boohoo:

On the subject of dreams/visitations. I dunno, to me, I like to think MJ does visit us in our dreams. When I have my dreams about MJ where I'm involved somehow, like..the one where I sat on his lap (possibly the one Mundy is refering to?), or hanging out with him, they feel like visitations to me..cos I wake up feeling like wow, I could feel his hands or whatever and just smiling like . The one I recently had about MJ where I wasn't involved on a personal level, to me that seemed to be just a random dream..not necessarily a direct visit because I didn't get that same feeling..does this make sense?

Does to me. I feel the same way. Some dreams are just BEYOND, wowwww. Others feel like "just" dreams totally.

I think when we are feeling down, lacking energy and things, MJ does come, but that's just from my own experience, whenever I've been a total wreck, MJ appears in my dreams. I make a habit of writing down whenever I have a dream about him, and more often than not they are around 17th/18th of every month. There are however a few anomalies (lol sounds like a science report) cos I can get them sort of the 4th/5th. So I dunno, doesn't really prove anything tbh lol. I guess I will keep noting down the dates of them, and then I will check again.

:lmao: It's funny that people will think people in this thread are a little nutty, but we're examining energy trends and dream cycles and geomagnetic storm indices and stuff :hysterical: Recently on Facebook I had "leave one word that describes me" on my status. My friends on FB are people who know me personally, many for years, you know. I got words like "scientific" a lot. And I think that's the whole point of so many of us in this thread... we're not stupid... we doubt, turn over, examine and pick apart our experiences (even though maybe we shouldn't be)

Oh yeah, it was strange the other day, I was meditating and I felt like someone lightly touch my forehead..then immediately after that I got this weird..almost like a buzzing sensation moving down from where I felt the touch. It was different to the tingles I normally feel, it was more..buzzy..:lol: :heart: to you all.

Neato In March I got that weird "energy upgrade" thing and for two days I had this freaky buzzing feeling on my upper nose, like below the third eye area, between my eyes around the bridge of the nose. It buzzed and buzzed. I was hoping it was some chakra activating thing

 

[mjbunny]

You had a very busy morning mjbunny! I'll just skip straight to the second dream . If you were to go through with it, I think it would be a really nice thing to do. I don't think you would need to worry about the song not having continuity. If you had a music track and a set melody for the chorus, everything else should fall into place. If people recorded themselves singing the full song, you should be able to fit all the pieces together. June 17th would give you a week to do that. Plenty of time. If you're serious about it, I will help in any way I can.

LOL, see... that's just the thing.... I have no clue regarding creating a melody, certainly no idea how to create a music track... nothing. Nor do I have software for splicing together various tracks or know anything about doing it, lol. I'm like... great, what should I do with this info? I suppose one could use the straight music track of IJCSLY instrumental, but then there's copyright claims on youtube that could be an issue. In the dream it was like a whole other melody that was kind of sad, you know. Hmmm.

Oh, speaking of music... I really want to make a certain vid with MJ's letters to fans, using "In Flowers" by James Blunt (LOVE this song - was it you, Mundy, who introduced us to this? I can't remember who it was). I've had youtube accounts killed, so I'm a chicken now. What I was thinking was... hey, maybe I could sing it myself as a cover instead. My voice isn't amazing, but neither is James Blunt's imo, lol. But I can't find an instrumental of this song. It's just acoustic guitar in the background, but I have no way of recreating it. Tried getting rid of his vocals with an audio program, but it sounded like poo.

 

[darlingdear]

:lmao: It's funny that people will think people in this thread are a little nutty, but we're examining energy trends and dream cycles and geomagnetic storm indices and stuff :hysterical: Recently on Facebook I had "leave one word that describes me" on my status. My friends on FB are people who know me personally, many for years, you know. I got words like "scientific" a lot. And I think that's the whole point of so many of us in this thread... we're not stupid... we doubt, turn over, examine and pick apart our experiences (even though maybe we shouldn't be)

Neato In March I got that weird "energy upgrade" thing and for two days I had this freaky buzzing feeling on my upper nose, like below the third eye area, between my eyes around the bridge of the nose. It buzzed and buzzed. I was hoping it was some chakra activating thing

:lmao:

Oo, maybe I was getting that chakra activating, like maybe my crown chakra or something?? I dunno it was certainly buzzing like a bee stuck between my forehead and skull -- sorry to be so gross there :lol:

Yeah it must of been so hard for all MJ's american fans during the tours! Because of all your commitments.
When MJ was touring, I was a tot, I didn't even know which way was up let alone make it to a stadium to see MJ :lol:. When TII concert was announced & I managed to get some tickets -- never in a million years thought I would be lucky enough to actually get tickets! -- I was like ooooooooooooooomg this is amazing :wild:. A tour in London?! I can't believe me and MJ are gonna be in the same enclosed space, yeah he might be miles away from me but who cares! lol.

 

[Mundy]

Don't worry about it

Ermm, it wasn't so much in the third eye area no. It was more..kinda on the right side just off centre, on my forehead, working its way down..maybe heading towards my third eye?

I can't find what I was looking for. It was basically saying that you will feel tingling when you are really "getting it" and you are connecting on a deeper level. I don't really know anything about energy upgrades but if that's what it was, well done!

Does that mean one would find it a bit easier and be more aware on or something else?

 

[darlingdear]

I can't find what I was looking for. It was basically saying that you will feel tingling when you are really "getting it" and you are connecting on a deeper level. I don't really know anything about energy upgrades but if that's what it was, well done!

Does that mean one would find it a bit easier and be more aware on or something else?

I'm finally beginning to get it together on the meditation front it would seem.

 

[Mundy]

LOL, see... that's just the thing.... I have no clue regarding creating a melody, certainly no idea how to create a music track... nothing. Nor do I have software for splicing together various tracks or know anything about doing it, lol. I'm like... great, what should I do with this info? I suppose one could use the straight music track of IJCSLY instrumental, but then there's copyright claims on youtube that could be an issue. In the dream it was like a whole other melody that was kind of sad, you know. Hmmm.

Oh, speaking of music... I really want to make a certain vid with MJ's letters to fans, using "In Flowers" by James Blunt (LOVE this song - was it you, Mundy, who introduced us to this? I can't remember who it was). I've had youtube accounts killed, so I'm a chicken now. What I was thinking was... hey, maybe I could sing it myself as a cover instead. My voice isn't amazing, but neither is James Blunt's imo, lol. But I can't find an instrumental of this song. It's just acoustic guitar in the background, but I have no way of recreating it. Tried getting rid of his vocals with an audio program, but it sounded like poo.

Ooh! :bounce: I was learning that song on guitar the other day! I'll try recording it this evening if you want

Regarding IJCSMY, if you think of what you want to do with it and want a hand, I'll do whatever I can to help out.

 

[mjbunny]

8701Girl - Yeah, I've read many dreams of him appearing in light like that To me I guess it's a symbol of Home ... like where we came from and will return to... The Light. Oh, but it was so much more than that, the FEELING. Just wow.

Oo, maybe I was getting that chakra activating, like maybe my crown chakra or something?? I dunno it was certainly buzzing like a bee stuck between my forehead and skull -- sorry to be so gross there :lol:

That's just what my nose-buzzing thing felt like! :yes:

Yeah it must of been so hard for all MJ's american fans during the tours!

Yes, it SUCKED Unless one had enough money to travel, or credit cards to max out or relatives to borrow from... something, lol. Me, I was just SOL. *whine* As for TII... I was online during the announcement *Refresh/refresh/refresh... MUST get presale codes!* There was no effing way in all of hell I was going to miss him this time! And we got ticks for two shows. And I said that if enough was left over after paying taxes I was gonna take us back to London in early 2010 with even closer seats... 1st or 2nd row. Or so I thought...

I think so too that his energy started to change before he passed. hard to explain but probably he already was sort of half in physical world, half in spirit world. This is how I feel about you dreaming of him last spring. It is very sad. Many fans actually had a feeling or strange dreams bout MJ since last spring.

Your first dream you posted looks very symbolic and really beautiful. Another ones I dunno :lol:

I think that by January or so it was... just going to happen I really do. Certainly by mid-March. I felt so many things and became more obsessed, just 24/7 obsessed, with Michael like I hadn't been for years and felt he was in danger, prayed "please don't take Michael anytime soon, please let him stay" ... just weird stuff that's unusual for me. I was feeling this before the O2 announcement, though. And then the feeling I had in March about something big happening in the summer that was something huge for the whole world. I just didn't realize WHAT was going to happen I guess in some way, when I look back at it all, it's like being a secret agent in a spy flick and being activated, if that makes any sense. Like I was just me, just sitting there dealing with my own stuff and then... DING... "you are being activated... very soon we will contact you with further info about your mission". It's the only way I can describe it. I guess that goes for so many people. I just don't know how many people felt it consciously, you know. Not that I knew what "it" was. In early June I had a dream that I turned on the TV and saw that Donny Osmond had just died out of the blue and I was like, "Whoa. :bugeyed Isn't he the same age as Michael?" Just so many little things like that... I mean, we knew on some level. But the question is then... did we know because it was all planned, or did we know because events like this ripple out forwards and backwards through space-time? :mello:

In regard to the first dream from this morning... omg, it was the FEELING of it that was most amazing. And I felt it still after waking up, this deep energy, this feeling of connection. I don't know if I was half out of my body or what!

 

[mjbunny]

I'm finally beginning to get it together on the meditation front it would seem.

Sounds like it, yesiree :yes:

Ooh! :bounce: I was learning that song on guitar the other day! I'll try recording it this evening if you want

Regarding IJCSMY, if you think of what you want to do with it and want a hand, I'll do whatever I can to help out.

No way! :lol: What are the chances?! I would love that if you'd send it, yes! I am just in love with that song. I think I've played it about 200 times, lol. I don't know how good I can record my vocals with this stupid little headset mike doh: :lol, but I would love to try :cheeky: Regarding IJCSMY, really not sure what to do. Maybe it will become clearer this week. :fortuneteller: Thanks for offering to help! I guess it's a group effort thing, yeah, so maybe we could all work on something together. I'm just clueless on the music recording part, lol.

P.S. I wonder where Amygrace has been?

 

[darlingdear]

That's interesting about what you felt mjbunny..about something being up at the beginning of Jan, then really strongly in March.
When MJ announced the tour I said to my friends what if something happens?? Like during one of the shows? They all of course made a joke out of it, not cool.
Maybe MJ 'saw' it coming, I mean..he called the tour This Is It..; I think it was Zenab who posted that poster for TII.. I can't find it now, but basically saying the time has come..one conciousness, one pain etc.

Here it is ( Zenab posted this a few months ago if I remember correctly)

 

[Mundy]

mjbunny I found Amy on twitter. She tweeted 10 hours ago. She's probably just taking a little break

 

[mjbunny]

That's interesting about what you felt mjbunny..about something being up at the beginning of Jan, then really strongly in March.
When MJ announced the tour I said to my friends what if something happens?? Like during one of the shows? They all of course made a joke out of it, not cool.
Maybe MJ 'saw' it coming, I mean..he called the tour This Is It..; I think it was Zenab who posted that poster for TII.. I can't find it now, but basically saying the time has come..one conciousness, one pain etc.

Here it is ( Zenab posted this a few months ago if I remember correctly)

Yeah, crazy that this was on the website He also wrote about consciousness in a couple of letters to fans in 2008. :heart: I couldn't find the thread here with them, but here's a link http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/36811701.html On the subject of intuitions, yeah, so many people were like... ummm... ok, that press conference was kind of creepy. I remember watching it sometimes and saying outloud, "Geez, Michael. You're not going to die or something, are you?" :no: F***, just thinking of how many times I said that. It's so hard to comprehend the time a year ago, right? I was diagnosed with something pretty serious last summer (the blood draw that finally found the problem was the morning of June 25th, of all days) and prior to that I was supposed to have surgery (that got cancelled :rolleyes2 and anyway... I was all freaked out that I'd die from anesthesia because they kept saying that with my health issues the anesthesia was their big concern. I was so wigged out by it that I'd lie awake at night stressing about everything. I went to sleep every night with my slow MJ songs playlist because Michael's voice was the only thing that could calm me down enough to sleep. In the end it was the anesthesiology department that refused to do my surgery because it was too risky. (It's all so weird, how things fit together in some bizarre way.) And that whole time (April/May/June) I said to my husband so many times, "Man, if I die before I get to see Michael this summer, I am going to be SO pissed!" .... :no:

mjbunny I found Amy on twitter. She tweeted 10 hours ago. She's probably just taking a little break

Oh yeah, duh. Twitter. Taking a break from that myself :lol:

Guys it is funny how you find each other. I do not even know how to use twitter :lol:

:lol: IKR? The only reason I'm on Twitter is because of MLP. I thought I'd despise it (because I can't stand Facebook), but in some ways Twitter's kinda cool

 

[darlingdear]

Yeah I saw those hand-written notes before

I know, it is so hard to think..that almost a years gone by. I torture myself by thinking what if MJ was still here, what would he be up to now? The tour would be over, probably spending time with his kids etc.
Sorry to hear about your health issues Must of been scary times for you! It is bizarre though..
ahh, June 25th :sigh: I totally remember it like it was yesterday.



I don't even have a twitter account :lol: I wouldn't know what to do with is.

 

[amygrace]

Hey girls :group: Glad to see the thread moving more! When I checked in here yesterday there was hardly any posts!

mjbunny - Wow, amazing dreams there. I LOVE the cosmic scene you saw with Michael glowing and everyone around him. The pic you photoshopped for it rocks. It's crazy how all your dreams came out of nowhere...I mean since you were feeling disconnected - but then they show up! Very cool idea about the alternative song to IJCSLY... I think that's a sweet idea indeed! In fact it makes me want to go experiment in the studio right now... Maybe I'll do that later...see if I'm inspired and then I can bring any ideas back here for us to chew on. Sorry your husbunny woke you up before you got to see Michael in the last dream...aww. I could just FEEL your excitement there though...:wub:

Man I wish I had some good dreams last night. I specifically asked my Guides to let me dream of something that gives me insight into personal issues, or where I speak with them, or get a visitation from Michael... but ended up I dreamt of my Cat turning into a Cobra :bugeyed and I was trying to keep him locked up and me and my daughter safe.

I think when we are feeling down, lacking energy and things, MJ does come, but that's just from my own experience, whenever I've been a total wreck, MJ appears in my dreams.

This is where I feel so singled out. In all this time, I've only had maybe TWO dreams where I felt like Michael was actually there. Actually, I'm stil kind of iffy about them...none of them were as special and one-on-one as other people seemed to have. And I only remember a couple snippets..not a full dream. Even during the days where I went to bed crying over Michael, I got nadda. I figure myself to be a pretty in tune person, at least with my intuition...and I've had some seriously connected vivid dreams with other people that felt REAL...as in not just regular dreaming...so, why not with Michael?

The question is why Michael gives comfort to one person in deep grieve and gives nothing to another?
It just does not make any sense. I think it is something to do with our abilities as well to get some comfort from Mj energy field. Probably our mind tries to balance itself emotionally when we are asleep. Being in grieve it is not normal for our mind, it is not natural imo for human beings because we, our souls were created not to die from the beginning.
I am not saying he dos not visit us when we are in grieve, probably he does but I am not sure that it works as simple as that.
If it was just like that it means that we are able to control MJ spirit by putting ourselves in grieve. Some ppl can do it. It is just like saying: Hey Mike, I am in grieve, pls come over.

Exactly...this is what I really wonder about. .......:lol: I've been sitting here for 10 minutes trying to elaborate on this but my mind is all jumbled. lol. Maybe later.

P.S. I wonder where Amygrace has been?

Hehe...I was peeking in here on my work breaks, just didn't have the energy to reply. Plus there wasn't much going on so I figured I'd save it till the next day.

Maybe MJ 'saw' it coming, I mean..he called the tour This Is It..; I think it was Zenab who posted that poster for TII.. I can't find it now, but basically saying the time has come..one conciousness, one pain etc.

I never actually read the text on that poster... it all came true, just in a different way... :weeping:

 

[MJJLaugh]

MjBunny You had some very interesting dreams, especially the first one where we were in too. I wish I could remember more of my dreams like I used to. I really like the idea of the song, wish I could help, possiboly with lyrics maybe, not with the music I'm afraid, but I do hope it will work out!!

I vaguely remember dreaming about MJ last night but not what it was about. Most of the times when I dream about him he is just there and not much is happening or being said. But I'm still very happy, regardless, when I dream of him!

Asedora Glad to see you back in the thread! I like your theory about the dreams. In my case I have had some very symbolic dreams that I felt sure were messages from Michael, also because they contained a lot of his favorite things ( some I wasn't aware of at that time but that is becoming more and more clear as time goes by).

8701Girl I agree with what you said on dreams. ( I will have to start using the multi-quote thing, I hope my post still makes sense to you all).

I agree about the premonitions people had. I did not have a specific feeling related to Michael beforehand but many people on here were convinced that for some reason the concerts would not happen at all. His energy probably did change beforehand. I still get an uneasy feeling from the March announcement and I suddenly realize with a certainty that he knew it too. He knew, he hoped it wouldn't happen but he knew, I'm sure of it.


I want to share something weird that happened at work. Remember how I told you before that sometimes the light would flicker briefly at home ?
I was telling colleagues about the Michael/Lady Di connection and the castle and Harrods. The colleague was going to London you see. The lights in our office have not flickered once in the past years and months. And when I said "I believe they are very close and kindred spirits who can comfort each other and laugh and chat" the lights briefly flickered. Two colleagues saw it too. I cannot explain why this happened. Coincidence maybe ?

Modulation Alert Please let us hear the new songs!!


Hugs to everyone in the thread!

 

[darlingdear]

This is where I feel so singled out. In all this time, I've only had maybe TWO dreams where I felt like Michael was actually there. Actually, I'm stil kind of iffy about them...none of them were as special and one-on-one as other people seemed to have. And I only remember a couple snippets..not a full dream. Even during the days where I went to bed crying over Michael, I got nadda. I figure myself to be a pretty in tune person, at least with my intuition...and I've had some seriously connected vivid dreams with other people that felt REAL...as in not just regular dreaming...so, why not with Michael?

:huggy: Don't worry.
I don't know for sure if MJ even visits me in my dreams, they might feel that way, but whether it is for real, I've no idea..I like to think though.
Mine are only short anyway, not like a fully fledged MJ adventure lol. We pretty much stay in one place.

Maybe MJ visits you in other ways, like when you're writing your songs? Or when you play and laugh around with your daughter? He may have visited you, just not necessarily when you're asleep? I'm sure you've mentioned feeling him around you?
I can understand your frustration though, in dreams you want it to happen, but it will happen for you

MJJLaugh - That's interesting the lights flickered when you said that..

 

[amygrace]

:huggy: Don't worry.
I don't know for sure if MJ even visits me in my dreams, they might feel that way, but whether it is for real, I've no idea..I like to think though.
Mine are only short anyway, not like a fully fledged MJ adventure lol. We pretty much stay in one place.

Maybe MJ visits you in other ways, like when you're writing your songs? Or when you play and laugh around with your daughter? He may have visited you, just not necessarily when you're asleep? I'm sure you've mentioned feeling him around you?
I can understand your frustration though, in dreams you want it to happen, but it will happen for you

Thanks hon :huggy: I have felt like Michael was around me many times when I'm awake...and I've had a couple awesome meditations...but I never know if they are real or just all in my head...ya know? Dreams are more real to me...'cause I don't have my consciousness getting in the way trying to control it. And when you get a visitation in a dream, you can really talk to the person...hug them...get that one on one time that feels REAL in some way. I feel sad when I hear about all these dreams where people got to hug him, touch his hand, get a message from him, have him tell them he loves them...that all felt very real and special to them. I'm like...why haven't I gotten this? Yet, as I'm typing this out now I'm kinda goin' :doh: ...I shouldn't be so whiny. lol. If the experiences that I *think* I've had are real...I should be VERY grateful. And, afterall, Michael doesn't owe me anything...I just...miss him and...blah blah blah. I'll stop talking now. lol.


MJJLaugh - cool about the light flickering! :angel:

 

[darlingdear]

Thanks hon :huggy: I have felt like Michael was around me many times when I'm awake...and I've had a couple awesome meditations...but I never know if they are real or just all in my head...ya know? Dreams are more real to me...'cause I don't have my consciousness getting in the way trying to control it. And when you get a visitation in a dream, you can really talk to the person...hug them...get that one on one time that feels REAL in some way. I feel sad when I hear about all these dreams where people got to hug him, touch his hand, get a message from him, have him tell them he loves them...that all felt very real and special to them. I'm like...why haven't I gotten this? Yet, as I'm typing this out now I'm feeling kinda goin' :doh: ...I shouldn't be so whiny. lol. If the experiences that I *think* I've had are real...I should be VERY grateful. And, afterall, Michael doesn't owe me anything...I just...miss him and...blah blah blah. I'll stop talking now. lol.

I get like this too. Doubt things, wonder if they are real. Cos I can't believe the Michael Jackson is in my dreams. Sometimes I think dreams are silly,..how can that really of happened?? (obv in dreamland lol) but then I think how would my brain of come up with some "plot" lol like that. Cos I mean I know we take things into our subconcious and they get stored there and then you sometimes see them in your dream (e.g. like a random object may appear you saw earlier in the day), so what if my brain is subconciously storing MJ-ness and just to appease me my brain throws it up into my dreaming. :sigh: I've just confused myself now lol.

This is all trying to make you feel better lol, but I think I have managed to dragged us both further into the world of confusion & doubt. Maybe someone can get us out of here.

 

[mjbunny]

Very cool idea about the alternative song to IJCSLY... I think that's a sweet idea indeed! In fact it makes me want to go experiment in the studio right now... Maybe I'll do that later...see if I'm inspired and then I can bring any ideas back here for us to chew on.

Hey, go for it I'm guessing that people who write songs and play guitars would probably figure something out better than I would Too bad you had a creepy dream last night. Snakes, ugh. I had one the night before where I conjured some demon (wtf? h34r who was actually some part of me and I realized the only way I'd ever get rid of it was to make it feel loved and be its friend. Weirrrd, but obvious symbolism. I wonder why your cat turned into a cobra, though. Cat is something safe, turning into something dangerous? I could think of some Freudian & wordplay associations, but I won't go into that :lmao:

I agree about the premonitions people had. I did not have a specific feeling related to Michael beforehand but many people on here were convinced that for some reason the concerts would not happen at all. His energy probably did change beforehand. I still get an uneasy feeling from the March announcement and I suddenly realize with a certainty that he knew it too. He knew, he hoped it wouldn't happen but he knew, I'm sure of it.

Wow, cool about the lights flickering! Oh, I'm the way you mentioned too... even if I can't remember the dream, just knowing Michael was in it makes the day better :wub: The bolded sentence... geesh. Good way of putting it. Probably true. God, I just want to reach into my computer screen watching that and pull him out of it... just have a conversation. Tell me, Michael... what do you think, what do you know, where are you now?

:huggy: Don't worry.
I don't know for sure if MJ even visits me in my dreams, they might feel that way, but whether it is for real, I've no idea..I like to think though.
Mine are only short anyway, not like a fully fledged MJ adventure lol. We pretty much stay in one place.

Maybe MJ visits you in other ways, like when you're writing your songs? Or when you play and laugh around with your daughter? He may have visited you, just not necessarily when you're asleep? I'm sure you've mentioned feeling him around you?
I can understand your frustration though, in dreams you want it to happen, but it will happen for you

MJJLaugh - That's interesting the lights flickered when you said that..

Amygrace & darlingdear - Well I'm not sure of visits either, if one wants to get technical, lol. Not long ago I did a runes reading about how to improve clarity of communication with the other side and the "force working against me" was the rune for "things inherited / the homeland". At first I wondered if it's just something genetic, either by family or just as a human, like you can only get so much info, sorry. But it could also be culture and our constant doubting, questioning and scientific explaining. That mindset is also inherited from our homelands. Long ago and in some other cultures these days even, "proof" isn't something necessary. But I swear there's no way I can untangle that from my mind... in the end I think logically, I want explanations, I want proof. And thus "force that works agianst" clear communication?? :doh: Btw, Amy... I also don't get special stuff just because I'm upset, lol. There have been nights I've cried like it was last summer, just heartbroken and I won't feel a thing. And unlike darlingdear, I haven't found a pattern of any kind yet. I agree that mid-month things seem to be more strong, yeah. But not to much in April for me. It's been later for me this month, like 24th onward (with the exception of yesterday). Weird. Maybe there just is no pattern? "21st century humans... always looking for patterns and stuff :smilerolleyes:" lol

 

[mjbunny]

so what if my brain is subconciously storing MJ-ness and just to appease me my brain throws it up into my dreaming. :sigh: I've just confused myself now lol.

:lol: If that happens, I'd like to know why the heck it didn't happen all those years when I had MJ pictures on every inch of my bedroom walls and he was the only person in the world who existed for me... "Michael?!".... "Michael?!"... lol. Man, I could scan a full open newspaper and know whether the words "Michael", "Jackson" and the two words in conjunction appeared anywhere in like 10 seconds :lol: But I hardly ever dreamed of him :doh: But then I suppose when someone dies there's a lot of stuff for the brain to work on in regard to them, but it wouldn't explain the people who lose someone and never dream about them. Well, I just consider it a wonderful surprise each and everytime and I'm all for my brain storing up MJ-ness to unleash into a lovely plot at 5am. Go for it, brain! Can't ever get enough, after all.

 

[darlingdear]

Amygrace & darlingdear - Well I'm not sure of visits either, if one wants to get technical, lol. Not long ago I did a runes reading about how to improve clarity of communication with the other side and the "force working against me" was the rune for "things inherited / the homeland". At first I wondered if it's just something genetic, either by family or just as a human, like you can only get so much info, sorry. But it could also be culture and our constant doubting, questioning and scientific explaining. That mindset is also inherited from our homelands. Long ago and in some other cultures these days even, "proof" isn't something necessary. But I swear there's no way I can untangle that from my mind... in the end I think logically, I want explanations, I want proof. And thus "force that works agianst" clear communication?? :doh: Btw, Amy... I also don't get special stuff just because I'm upset, lol. There have been nights I've cried like it was last summer, just heartbroken and I won't feel a thing. And unlike darlingdear, I haven't found a pattern of any kind yet. I agree that mid-month things seem to be more strong, yeah. But not to much in April for me. It's been later for me this month, like 24th onward (with the exception of yesterday). Weird. Maybe there just is no pattern? "21st century humans... always looking for patterns and stuff :smilerolleyes:" lol

I know, humans always have to find some explanation and or pattern, we can never let it be :lol:
I will monitor my "pattern", but like you say, it'll probably tell me THERE IS NO PATTERN :lol:

That's interesting about the readings too..

I would like to add that it doesn't happen every time I'm upset -- I don't wanna make myself out to be a..special case, maybe I jumped the gun by saying MJ comes to me when I'm a total wreck..it has happened though -- sometimes I think my emotion makes me so drained I wake up not remembering any dreams when I'm or I will just be subdued before sleeping. But I think in general, MJ maybe feels when people are down? And tries his hardest to get to them?
(I think it's when I get real..desperate lol -- which only happens once every few months.. Like uber whiney
MJ's probably just like fine, fine, anything to stop this neediness! (Sorry MJ:lol)

About the brain appeasing you -- :lol: you raise a good point about before he died rarely dreaming about him..despite having been surrounded by MJ stuff.
I've dreamt about MJ more than my g-mother who died in..2003. I've had one dream with her in it..I don't understand that :scratch:
All this talk is making my head huuuuuuurt.

 

[amygrace]

This is all trying to make you feel better lol, but I think I have managed to dragged us both further into the world of confusion & doubt. Maybe someone can get us out of here.

Haha...aww. Well thanks for trying to make me feel better :huggy:

Snakes, ugh. I had one the night before where I conjured some demon (wtf? h34r who was actually some part of me and I realized the only way I'd ever get rid of it was to make it feel loved and be its friend. Weirrrd, but obvious symbolism. I wonder why your cat turned into a cobra, though. Cat is something safe, turning into something dangerous? I could think of some Freudian & wordplay associations, but I won't go into that :lmao:

Dang, crazy demon dream! I love those ones though...that even though they were scary, when you wake up the meaning is all too clear. LOL @ the Freudian comment...haha. Yeah I'm not sure about my dream. Maybe it's linked to the fact that I decided yesterday that I would start looking for a new home for my cat...'cause I don't think he's getting what he deserves here with me (my daughter chases him often and we are gone a lot). I Googled cat/snake dreams today and found an interesting interpretation for someone else's dream that was like mine. It said "The fact that you feared the snake means that 'subconsciously you are facing change, or losing something that makes you uncomfortable. Because the snake wasn't able to be locked in the cage..." (*in my dream, he kept getting out from where I locked him up) ..."can mean that something from your past is haunting you, or this "change" you are facing is not in your control. " Hmmm

Well, I just consider it a wonderful surprise each and everytime and I'm all for my brain storing up MJ-ness to unleash into a lovely plot at 5am. Go for it, brain! Can't ever get enough, after all.

Haha...word. You know, thinking about all this more...I'm thinking that maybe I just have too many personal issues in my life that need sorted out right now...and so that's why I rarely dream of Michael. 'Cause my brain is working out other stuff. Orrr maybe I'm just trying to make myself feel better here. lol. Well...whatever works.

 

[amygrace]

IBut I think in general, MJ maybe feels when people are down? And tries his hardest to get to them?
(I think it's when I get real..desperate lol -- which only happens once every few months.. Like uber whiney
MJ's probably just like fine, fine, anything to stop this neediness! (Sorry MJ:lol)

:lmao: ohh this cracked me up...thank you. Maybe I just haven't annoyed Michael enough... LOL. Nah...I've probably annoyed him more than enough with my whiney-ness. Sometimes I think...what if he DID show up and I just don't remember...so I keep whining. I mean really, how annoying would that be? :lol: I need to just stop it.

 

[darlingdear]

^ that makes sense -- about the personal issues.

Phew. I'm glad we got all that straightened out. Don't we all feel better and reassured now (ish) :huggy::huggy:

I think this topic and subsequent pages make up for the lack of pages yesterday

 

[amygrace]

^Hehe yes. I love you guys. Once again I am refreshed by this thread. :group:

 

[Bee]

Gee guys, there we have nothing a whole day and there we have 3 new pages today! How is y'all doing? :flowers: I'm feeling odd lately....kind of reliving the whole summer of 2009 as in what I did at that time. Really specifically and it feels as if it was just yesterday! Maybe that is also so 'vivid' because of the significant weather changes here and that all makes me think of last summer.

I'm such a good 'linker'...everything makes me think of and relive something in the very smallest detail.
Like scents, seasons, music, seeing dates, just anything. (Not only in the case of Michael.) :doh: Bluh.

Btw, Captain EO is coming back to Paris....yeeehaaa! I'm sooooooo going there this summer.
And I heard some people are planning to arrange a MJJC meeting for it. :wild:

So this morning I had 3 main MJ-related dreams:
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Some crazy dreams! Whoa! You seem to be able to remind them very well and detailed, sure got a trained brain! :lol: Love that last one, too bad that your hubby woke you up! -_- Funny you mention that IJCSLY type of tribute song, because I've been thinking about this song yesterday after my singing class at that 'famous singer'...I have to pick one song that I love and want to make my own in terms of speed or whatever, so we can work on that. So I thought of that! I think your idea is amazing, like others said...you could make an awesome tribute out of that. :heart:

(Btw...I really can't afford those singing classes, 1 euro per minute and she can't even play a piano or something...DAMN so I'm thinking to cancel it...but...it might give me options and new knowledge. But...I can also work harder and train myself? Hmm. *sigh* Dilemma of my life, everyday again. :sigh: )

Oh and Mundy, I'm gonna try for a recording session tomorrow morning again! Will let you know if I have something out of that.

I am not saying he dos not visit us when we are in grieve, probably he does but I am not sure that it works as simple as that.
If it was just like that it means that we are able to control MJ spirit by putting ourselves in grieve. Some ppl can do it. It is just like saying: Hey Mike, I am in grieve, pls come over. :lol:

Lol. I guess you're right, it's pretty heavy to be in grief and combining that with the burst of energy that's coming with Michael, it's pretty intense what we're going through. I've never felt grief over anyone before, my grandpa died 2 years ago but I haven't felt sad 'cause I didn't know him so well/cared about him in that way. Did have dreams with him in it though, so that's also why I'm believing in my dreams with Michael a lot more, since they are the same type of dreams and I know they're more than just normal dreams when they occur. But I also don't have dreams just like that or when feeling overly sad....it's always a suprise when I dream about Michael, not to mention the deeper meaning dreams. I only have gotten those like 3 or 4 times, where I would really know 'it's him'. :angel:

Maybe MJ 'saw' it coming, I mean..he called the tour This Is It..; I think it was Zenab who posted that poster for TII.. I can't find it now, but basically saying the time has come..one conciousness, one pain etc.

You know, I've never felt 'right' about that whole announcement or the press conference. There's something off about it...everytime I was trying to get tickets or talking about it, it was such a surreal thing...as if it wasn't going to happen and I wouldn't have to do effort. And it wasn't really the surreal feeling like 'Michael is gonna tour again after all those years', but just really something that was off......also, seeing him on that stage...I guess he 'knew' somehow indeed......his energy was so different. It's not 'Michaelish'. But then again, his energy in the TII movie was really different again as well...oh gosh, I dunnow...it's so confusing. :boohoo:

...
(It's all so weird, how things fit together in some bizarre way.) And that whole time (April/May/June) I said to my husband so many times, "Man, if I die before I get to see Michael this summer, I am going to be SO pissed!"

Aw man, that's INSANE! :bugeyed I'm pretty stunned by this, hmm. (You doing okay now btw?! If you don't wanna talk 'bout that, it's fine! :huggy

I want to share something weird that happened at work. Remember how I told you before that sometimes the light would flicker briefly at home ?
I was telling colleagues about the Michael/Lady Di connection and the castle and Harrods. The colleague was going to London you see. The lights in our office have not flickered once in the past years and months. And when I said "I believe they are very close and kindred spirits who can comfort each other and laugh and chat" the lights briefly flickered. Two colleagues saw it too. I cannot explain why this happened. Coincidence maybe ?

That's cool! Flickering lights...the obvious 'oh there's a ghost!' type of thing, loool. But therefore one of the easiest things to notice and lay the link with it. Maybe they wanted to neatly inform your colleagues too, hahaha.

I have felt like Michael was around me many times when I'm awake...and I've had a couple awesome meditations...but I never know if they are real or just all in my head...ya know? Dreams are more real to me...'cause I don't have my consciousness getting in the way trying to control it. And when you get a visitation in a dream, you can really talk to the person...hug them...get that one on one time that feels REAL in some way. I feel sad when I hear about all these dreams where people got to hug him, touch his hand, get a message from him, have him tell them he loves them...that all felt very real and special to them. I'm like...why haven't I gotten this?

Yeah, same here. :hug: Like I said to Asedora, I've only gotten such dreams 3 or 4 times in the past....the rest was all meditations or crazy things happening 'all of a sudden'. Dreams are so wonderful, I'm still amazed everytime of what is possible to receive in dreams and how scary real it feels. It's like a whole other life by night, lol. Sometimes I'm getting confused of what I dreamed or what happened in real life. Also, I get those realizations a lot lately...that I'm like 'wait, I dreamed about this!'...wonder why that is and if that's true or that it's just some kind of deja-vu. But yeah...hopefully such real dreams about Michael will gonna occur more often for us! :fortuneteller:

 

[Neeve]

wow, I love the conversations here!!
I have a million papers to finish so I can't stay, boo.
I started Kundalini Yoga yesterday, I like it Thank God for youtube videos, haha it's fun to wake up early and spend an hour in my room getting ready for the day!

Love you guys
xxx

 

[CaptainEoLove85]

Well, I don't know about everyone else, but I feel like Michael has been really close these past few days. It's been a while since I've felt him that close. He just seems easier to reach somehow, like when I talk to him in my mind before I go to sleep, it just feels like it's easier to talk to him right now. Before, it feels like I'm sending my messages out into space with just an inkling of chance of him receiving them, even though maybe he did. He just doesn't feel so distant right now.

 

[8701girl]

8701Girl - Yeah, I've read many dreams of him appearing in light like that To me I guess it's a symbol of Home ... like where we came from and will return to... The Light. Oh, but it was so much more than that, the FEELING. Just wow.

Heaven is all of gods childrens home, its where we all belong truly. Its like when our lights go off at night, we need that light to give us comfort and helps us not feel scared again. The same goes with THE LIGHT OF GOD, god shows us the way to love in our afterlife ( that is hopefully there is one). But we also see that LIGHT in our living life, when the sick are in need of help- we want 2 make them feel better. When the blind cant see, we have 2 be their eyes for them, and when the deaf cant hear- we are their ears.